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@TheAlanAragon2 жыл бұрын
I have no beef with the dimensions. What really irks me about GS is the stratospheric price, minus the on-the-fly microadjustability of the bracelet.
@jmso7862 жыл бұрын
I have the SLGA009 and am really loving it. At first, I was wary of the 22mm lugs with just a 2mm taper but I was at an event where Joe Kirk explained that the bracelet being half the case diameter at the clasp helps the watch wear more balanced. And this is absolutely the case, the wider stance the watch takes on the wrist really helps the wearing experience and makes the watch feel more balanced as opposed to top heavy with a lot of watches. Can’t agree with you enough that the finish, dial work and overall craftsmanship on this watch is tops! GS is commanding a bit more price premium with their newer models but for good reason. You’re really getting into holy trinity/haute horology quality at this level and you’re still only paying 1/3 the price. Unfortunately there will always be people who have issue with the word “Seiko” on the dial. Also, agree that this is meant to be an everyday watch but also think this is meant to be somewhat sporty. Counterpoint to you: we readily say the AP RO is a sport watch but it has much less WR than this piece. So we can say the RO is not a sports piece by that criteria (although in reality no one is using it as a sports watch these days…)
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
The AP RO isn't a sports watch in my opinion. I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say it is, but if they did, I think they're wrong.
@jmso7862 жыл бұрын
@@JustBlueFish agree, but it’s widely said the RO is an integrated sports watch (ie defined a whole category)
@GregoryGomez2 жыл бұрын
AP RO is definitely considered a sports watch.
@scottsj46252 жыл бұрын
I really hope to have a Grand Seiko someday. I had a friend who had three of them and I think the quality is amazing. I think they are better than some famous swiss brands even. I can tell you the high beat you lose or gain seconds a day. I would get the spring drive because it is only off a few seconds an entire year. I also have a small wrist about 6.8 inches. Dress watches I prefer under 40mm and believe 38mm would be much better for me too. The other thing that I am surprised about is they still don't have micro-adjustments in their dress watches like they do with their divers. You would think that would be easy to add to the bracelet since they already have them on their dive watches. In all fairness, they have some of the best dials I have ever seen. The polishing is amazing too on their bracelets.
@georgegarcia5662 жыл бұрын
I agree. Those watches are huge. You actually do not need that much room to display just the time.
@conradcoolerfiend2 жыл бұрын
the blend of deep black and dark grey on the dial looks amazing
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Ya its one of my favorite Grand Seiko dials to date.
@Koishishibaman24 күн бұрын
I traded in my sbga413 on this one. The shunbun was beautiful, but not enough contrast on the dial. Very happy with my purchase, other than the cost😂 This watch is very understated. No flash on this one.
@millersciencesms7622 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you about the size. It's a head scratcher. Especially the lug width.
@anthonystevens86832 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review Guy, your comment about sports v every day and not a tool watch was explained very well. I can completely relate to that. Different size options as you mention would certainly open up the target market as well. I'll take a look at one in the future at the AD if they have one as I generally prefer a high contrast between the dial and hands but it can depend on the watch model and style somewhat.
@viranjith Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I love the older 37mm grand Seikos. I miss those.
@williamsipe11512 жыл бұрын
I am in the same camp as you. I love their watches but just haven't found that right design. They all seem chunkier than such an elegant watch should be. I'd like to see 36-38 mm in diameter with a thickness of 11 mm or less. I could even see this on working with a 20 mm lug opening.
@beanwithbaconmegarocket3 ай бұрын
"Understated elegance in the pursuit of perfection" is what I always think of when I think of Grand Seiko.
@timmcdonald53352 жыл бұрын
Guy maybe you could go for the GS dress watch SBGY007 which is close to those dimensions you are looking for and has an amazing dial?
@rickonwatches99322 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch. You will see a lot of concerning comments re the accuracy of the 9SA5 movement in GS forums, it seems GS is having difficulty getting this movement to run within spec in real life wearing. That said, the Night Birch is stunning.
@djorgen2 жыл бұрын
So 39mm is fine, 40mm is a total deal-breaker? Come on man, it's 1 mm difference!
@timchan3342 ай бұрын
Who agrees with me? I think this GS with the black dial and the bracelet wears like a Sports watch!
@Kibby96793 Жыл бұрын
You are exactly right about the sizing.
@henryreed62372 жыл бұрын
Something like this will likely be my next step up from my Grand Seiko Quartz. Fabulous watch, can't recommend them enough, definitely interested in getting another Hi Beat or Spring Drive though. I'm kind of a one watch at a time kind of collector, preferring to put all my resources into one piece so it can be all the more impressive. Seems like most folks are the opposite, preferring to build a collection over time. What do you guys do?
@chia-mingyang58042 жыл бұрын
I also prefer this to SLGH005, but not so sure when comparing to SLGA009. There're many unstable 9SA5 cases; also the more subtle dial of SLGA009 is as good as SLGH017 in my opinion.
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
The 009 is nice, but I don't prefer white or lighter colored dials in general.
@Dj740332 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty great to me! Thanks for the review.
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@johnholkham2420 Жыл бұрын
It’s an office and social event watch, an every day watch but I like luminous markers as I wear a watch at night .
@jamescgarrett6356 Жыл бұрын
This really is a beautiful dial, both in colour and texture. I really appreciate the titanium case as well; I have several other watches in this material and just adore it! Size seems to be absolutely spot on for me too. I just do not get on with fully automatic movements though. My daily work life needs me to be accurate to the second, day in and day out, week after week, without the need to adjust the timing. If this design was available with Spring-Drive, or even better a 9F movement, and I’d buy one in a heartbeat. Keep well :-)
@TinBin-Craig2 жыл бұрын
nice watch... right size for me.... cheers
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@RedwoodAggie Жыл бұрын
I got the chance to try this watch on at an AD recently. I was shocked by how much I liked it, which is unfortunate given the price. I had previously tried on the white birch, and the 22mm bracelet bothered me there, but I think the titanium makes the difference on this watch. It felt great, though obviously it wasn't sized for me. I would say one knock against this being called a sports watch might be the style of clasp. However, Omega has a butterfly clasp on an Aqua Terra and that's certainly a sports watch, just a dressy sports watch. I think that's what we have here. I'm perfectly fine with the size of this watch, but understand why some people would want something a bit smaller as an option. Hopefully, GS will continue to expand the "Birch" and Evo 9 line to have more sizes and styles. I would love to see a spring drive version with this dark dial. I would like at least a little lume on the indices too.
@mikej8732 Жыл бұрын
What’re your thoughts on this compared to the SBGK017?
@JustBlueFish Жыл бұрын
I prefer the look of the night birch better, but otherwise I'm sure they're equally excellent.
@mikej8732 Жыл бұрын
@@JustBlueFish Thank you! I just wish the lug length was a bit shorter. Enjoyed your video!
@JustBlueFish Жыл бұрын
@@mikej8732 Thanks, and have a great Christmas.
@btmontres1423 Жыл бұрын
Wondered about that whopping 22mm lug width too but will withhold judgment until I try one in the metal. Great review and hope u get a chance to look at the new 37mm offerings; not the magic 38mm but pretty close.
@AtlantaGuns Жыл бұрын
If this has spring drive with the power reserve on the back would be a no brainer
@ATIWatchReviews2 жыл бұрын
Wowsers, it's definitely a looker. That dial is pretty insane. Still too small for me, it would have to be 42mm, but its stunning as a dress watch
@btmontres14232 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review. Have to see this one in the metal one day. Weird lug width at 22 mm, but should make for a stable and wearable form. Like the detailing of the polished screw chamfers, don't know why the heck it just pops from the caseback...and this is just from observing the finishing detail.
@Koishishibaman2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have this watch. It would fit me well. Think it is stunning! Seiko and GS know how to do Ti. I have a shotgun....a samurai....sbga413 in ti. All well made. The problem is watch budget. Not right now🤔
@eggsII Жыл бұрын
Is a Rolex Explorer a sports watch? Milgauss, Air King, and Oyster Perpetual are all watches with a fixed bezel that, at times, range from 41 to 39 mm widths…
@RightWingRadioShow2 ай бұрын
Yes it is a sports watch with a thin case and thin bracelet. Not this wide body, wide bracelet stuff. Explorer also has a more sporty looking dial.
@derekshearer90492 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@d7r_tv Жыл бұрын
It a perfect watch. But I want the Spring Drive on it to buy it.
@scottt.45962 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything you said. 💯
@douglascohen2521 Жыл бұрын
It’s a titanium watch with water resistance. It’s sporty.
@ElijsDima2 жыл бұрын
Looks good. Tbh I am not digging the bottom font on the dial, the "HI-BEAT 36000 80 HOURS" text is... well... it's a plain white print (same as you see on any $300 microbrand) with absolutely emotionless, featureless stock font (again.. exact same as seen on any $300 microbrand watch). Imo it harms this watch, seems like an afterthought.
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the type face. I prefer it to something like a fancy script or cursive font anyway.
@thecubingduck37232 жыл бұрын
Two questions from someone who is just getting into watches. What do you mean by lug to lug length? Also is this a mechanical watch that I have to wind everyday or is it Automatic?
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
lug to lug length is the distance from the one end of the watch case to the other end, from the "lugs". The lugs are the areas of the case at the top and bottom where the bracelet or strap attaches. And this watch is automatic, so you can manually wind it or it will wind itself as you wear it.
@llcharl1e2 жыл бұрын
I have the same gripe with grand seiko. Their proportions are dumbfounding. Sold my spring drive because its too big for a dress watch.
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Ya I haven't found a GS that I love the size of yet, and I've looked at lots of them.
@chi10572 жыл бұрын
The size is fine for me, but the 22mm lug width makes the watch look bulky. Not sure why they made the decision for a wide lug width.... ?
@jeffostrander2082 Жыл бұрын
Not a sports watch. I regard this as a more formal/everyday watch. Having said that I believe it could be dressed up for the nicest of occasions.
@underachievingwatchcollect18782 жыл бұрын
There’s 40 different varieties of Birch 🌳 trees in nature-GS has more special edition Birch models to go 😆!
@MarcelitoRecords2 жыл бұрын
37mm quartz with no date would be my pick
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad choice.
@drewski51502 жыл бұрын
I have the quartz SBGX261 that I love, but for everything else from GS - too big, too thick, too expensive (more expensive than an OP, DJ, Aqua Terra).
@Chrissepisje Жыл бұрын
A word on size: You are right. And you're not the only one. I own two forty mm Grand Seiko watches. One is the 12mm thick Spring Drive SBGA465, and the other is the 10mm thick HAQ SBGP013. I bought a Cartier Santos medium (35 x 8,8mm) on Friday. Never will I wear those Grand Seiko's again. They were bugging me before I got the Santos, but that experience just puts the nail in the coffin for these watches. That said: 100m water resistance is certainly enough for a sports watch. The notion that a mere sports watch need 200m water resistance is pure poppycock. Name one sport that takes you further than 100m under the ocean's surface, please.
@yangershkovich1191 Жыл бұрын
Nice t-shirt kid
@ernestkrajnc64122 жыл бұрын
I may be wrong, but all this GS watches look the same for me ...🤓
@dickiewongtk2 жыл бұрын
Which GS isn't almost perfect?
@zachscheel37842 жыл бұрын
It’s impossible for GS to have a perfect release. I mean, a 22mm wide bracelet on a watch like this? They’re crazy.
@matthewpilling48282 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with your opinion on the dimensions. The bracelet is too wide and looks clumsily big
@joseoliver5342 жыл бұрын
I don t like the dial,the price,the hands,the bracelet....i don t like this watch
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Jose!
@Alexander_MD2 жыл бұрын
this is more than a submariner, seiko is crazy.
@wolffo999 Жыл бұрын
less signage on the dial please
@mkyhou11602 жыл бұрын
The price is a problem, a smarter buy is a common color OP 41 or datejust. You can sell those and almost get your money back if you ever need to. The evolution models seem a rip off versus the last generation, a snowflake is cheaper and has more of the GS design DNA.
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
I don't personally collect watches as investments, I just get what I like, so that's not really a consideration I take into account when looking at getting something new. But, you're not wrong, you would lose less money with a Rolex if you decided to sell it down the road.
@chia-mingyang58042 жыл бұрын
It will only be a smarter buy when you can get them at retail. I haven't succeeded for a few years so definitely not for me.
@mkyhou11602 жыл бұрын
@@chia-mingyang5804 I have been a bit more fortunate, but if you look into it, a black dial OP or DJ trades around retail, especially now, there has been quite a dip. I don’t think GS is pricing these correctly for the current market, maybe pandemic pricing, but not todays pricing.
@drewski51502 жыл бұрын
OP/Datejust also cheaper at retail (if you can get them).
@chia-mingyang58042 жыл бұрын
@@mkyhou1160 I wouldn't buy watches from secondary market, especially Rolex. For me the details and technical advancement of this SLGH017 are worth the price.
@LordLauderdale Жыл бұрын
In the flesh the dial is too small compared to the bracelet or vice versa - just not balanced.
@user-wb4xj2um3u2 жыл бұрын
no watch is perfect, and no mechanical watches are for sport activities, the using terms "tool watch" is completely wrong... when people talking about tool watches it all comes down to water resistance nobody talking about shock resistant as you know mechanical movement cannot resist shocks...therefore even Rolex submariner is not a tool watch eventually it is a dressy warch it is a water resistance but it is not shock resistant at all therefore it isn't a tool watch.... it is a companion for diving but it is not a real reliable tool for diving... if you are OK with Rolex submariner wearability why not this Grand Sieko night Birch?....this Grand Sieko having more sense as a mechanical luxury watch than Rolex submariner at the same price.... wearability and craftmenship is better than Rolex submariner, by far much more beautiful movement compared to what you can get from Rolex , and I believe the engineering spec of 9SA5 is simply better from any Rolex...
@BeyondWrittenWords2 жыл бұрын
SLGH017 USD 10,400.00
@antoniosamaranchi32232 жыл бұрын
Go to the gym and Don’t complain that the size is big.
@MrJamesDuffy2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful watch but the wider lug width was the immediate deal breaker for me. I am the odd duck that loves the 19mm lug width of other Grand Seiko models. Great review!
@JustBlueFish2 жыл бұрын
19mm isn't bad but generally I prefer 20mm, if the bracelet has a fair bit of taper.
@MrJamesDuffy2 жыл бұрын
@@JustBlueFish For sure. When I tried it on at the GS Boutique, the clasp end felt very bulky.