An Ammonia Generator

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Scrap Science

3 жыл бұрын

A pretty simple demonstration that probably should have been put into a shorter video.

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@WallaceSpirit 3 жыл бұрын

FIRST VIDEO that ive watch from your channel... now I will watch all of them. Same level as NILERED and NURDRAGE 😇🙏 Thanks for the knowledge brother 🧡

@CJ-kr8mi 3 жыл бұрын

Love all your videos!

@ukeedge2761 8 ай бұрын

Thats a nice looking beaker my man 😮

@adamcoogan9122 3 жыл бұрын

G’day Mate...Another fantastic upload. I was inspired by your earlier ammonia extraction experiment using Ammonia Sulphate and Calcium Hydroxide the other week and used the same funnel preventative suck back setup but used a ice bath to maximise yield. It was very successful....My observation was that by the calcium sulphate (drops out of solution) is a lot easier to heat and bubble ammonia gas into a very cold DH2O solution . After collecting I used some 3A molecular Sieve to increasing the concentration. A hydrometer is a good way to determine concentration.

@adamcoogan9122 3 жыл бұрын

I used calcium acetate extracted from oyster shells to make my Calcium Hydroxide

@alexwang982 11 ай бұрын

@@adamcoogan9122you can just heat calcium carbonate directly to get lime, then put in water

@shaggyhq 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video mate.. Thanks for your video 👍👍👍

@megahaker7712 3 жыл бұрын

Hello I love this channel and I want to ask about ion exchange separation of sodium and potassium

@putteslaintxtbks5166 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe, if the solution already made was used to collect the new, you could have a more concentrated solution without further work as it has such a high affinity(sp) to water and as you said, cooling would also help with that too.

@Zeusviolet Жыл бұрын

Gday thanks for the video. It was very interesting! I saw the video of the Canadian guys running a car off ammonia, I think it was 25% strength. I was hoping to find a way of making aqueous ammonia easily! I was wondering how do you test the ammonia level? Also what is the product that is left in the beaker? Does it have any uses?

@ScrapScience Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! The concentration here can be measured by titration or by density measurements (with a hydrometer), depending on what you've got available. The by-product of the reaction is sodium sulfate (with very little practical use in my opinion), though there will always be leftover sodium hydroxide and ammonium sulfate in the starting mixture, so it won't be pure anyway.

@geeljireoomaar6140 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Harry what do you think about Oswald Process

@TruthDigest 2 жыл бұрын

Hello, Great job man . I want to know if we have need the heat at the first stage , or we heat it only at the end of the process , and what temperature we have to apply ? thank you for the videos 😊.

@ScrapScience 2 жыл бұрын

You can heat at any stage, but the reaction might be more controlled if you only heat it towards the end of the process. You only need to heat the solution to near its boiling point (100 C) to finish it off.

@TruthDigest 2 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience Thank you very much Bro, I waiting for your next videos, I like your easy description a lot 🧪👍👌

@justinkyledavidson 3 жыл бұрын

Your very informative!

@matthewloiacono6934 3 жыл бұрын

Love the vids. Any suggestions where to get an addition funnel from ?

@adamcoogan9122 3 жыл бұрын

I got mine through these guys they are fantastic scienceequip.com.au/collections/new-arrivals/products/additional-funnels-cylindrical?_pos=1&_sid=e42cc7aae&_ss=r

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

I'm afraid I'm no expert on sourcing addition funnels. I ordered two from China on ebay before I got this one and both arrived completely shattered (got refunded though, so that's all good). If you're in Australia, Deschem is a very reliable ebay store (and relatively cheap) for a lot of glassware. If not, I probably won't be much help.

@markshort9098 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience deschem doesn't post to Australia anymore because to much glassware was being stopped by customs, or thats what they told me a few weeks ago but i ordered a heap of stuff from nashiglass and had no problem, ben something has better prices on many things but postage is painfully slow and expensive unless it's a big order, i hope the extra slow postage doesn't result in a higher risk of breakage since i have a 300 dollar order coming from him.. when that order comes in I'm going to send a message to deschem and let them know the size of the orders and that they got through so hopefully they start sending to Australia again albeit i won't be needing any glassware for a long time..

@mehurtmyfinger 3 жыл бұрын

Considering everything going on at the moment.. I'm not too fussed about the AusPost delays either. Things eventually arrive Cheers for sharing this method :) Did you source your sulfate from bunnings, or had some on the side ready? Funnel bubbler is a ripper. Did any suck back nearly occur, or nah?

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

I agree, despite delays, the post still gets through eventually. Ammonium sulfate from Bunnings seems to be perfectly fine for this reaction, I've never had any problems with the impurities and all the products left behind in the flask are highly soluble in water so cleanup is easy too. I was very much expecting the gas to attempt suck back at some point (and even made a big deal about it in the original video footage), but to my surprise, the gas was absorbed at pretty much exactly the same rate as it was made. Pretty unusual though, I'd definitely expect suck back to occur most of the time.

@panchisjaviergrocar134 2 жыл бұрын

Did any suck back nearly occur, or nah? to void this you can use a check valve

@EdgarKohl 2 жыл бұрын

Didn't realize ammonia can be used on this process!

@DonCarlos590 11 ай бұрын

Would ammonia be difficult to produce from wood or perhaps sawdust ?

@ScrapScience 11 ай бұрын

Nitrogen is usually only present in wood at a concentration of much less than 0.5%, so I'd imagine you'd have a great deal of difficulty doing this. Maybe some types of wood have more nitrogen than others, or maybe you're thinking of something else? Ammonia was notoriously difficult to prepare before the invention of the Haber-Bosch process, and there's really no easy way to extract or produce it, sadly.

@YouMockMe 3 жыл бұрын

Question. I think that because the Na is a stronger base than the ammonia, it takes the Sulfate to be NaS or something and the ammonia is released? --> NaS + water + ammonia (gas) Rock on! You're vids are awesome, someday I'll get my head around all this haha

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, precisely! The NaOH is a much stronger base than NH3, so it sets up an equilibrium which favours the production of ammonia. Seeing as the ammonia leaves as a gas, the reaction can be pushed very near to completion. Sulfate is actually the SO4(2-) ion rather than S(2-), so the overall reaction is: (NH4)2SO4 + 2NaOH -> Na2SO4 + 2H2O + 2NH3

@YouMockMe 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience Thanks! I'm gettin there. ...credit where due, watched acid/base vids for years, but watching yours made everything "click". Keep up the awesome work!!! ....also the clay pot as a barrier for the K-Nitrate was straight f*cking genius in my book. Cheers!

@VerbenaIDK Жыл бұрын

Ammonia is such a cool chemical but also such a pain in the ass to work with and make I need it for a future project but I just hate it so much but I also love it so much

@jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын

What project you doin

@VerbenaIDK Жыл бұрын

@@jesscorbin5981 Ig I forgot to awnser this My main goal is making tetrazoles and aminoguanidine, for that though now I will use urea instead of ammonia to make hydrazine But ammonia is useful for transition metal chem, so like making TACP, HANN, hexaamine cobalt and stuff

@jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын

@@VerbenaIDKWhat about for alkali and alkali earth metals, how would you compare them? Thnx

@VerbenaIDK Жыл бұрын

@@jesscorbin5981 What do you mean?

@jesscorbin5981 Жыл бұрын

@@VerbenaIDKdoes calcium metal react with ammonia or hydrazine more

@TechGorilla1987 9 ай бұрын

This is absolutely ghetto as fuck and quite dangerous. Subscribed!🤣

@bradmcclure4945 Жыл бұрын

have you tried generating hydrogen with electrolysis and letting the hydrogen flow through liquid nitrogen with should produce amonia gas

@ScrapScience Жыл бұрын

I highly doubt that would generate ammonia. Do you have any evidence or written procedures you can point me towards for this reaction?

@bradmcclure4945 Жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience bsdicslly could you generate nh3 by allowing hydrogen gas to bubble up in liquid nitrogen

@ScrapScience Жыл бұрын

I still don't believe this would work. I'll be happy to try if it is viable, but again, do you have any evidence or written procedures for this reaction?

@electromagic3111 3 жыл бұрын

Hi great video Now can you tell me the different Between generating and extracting Please

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

Well, I guess I probably use the terms interchangeably sometimes, but 'generating' should refer to the production of a compound from stuff that doesn't contain the desired compound (in this case, I'm generating ammonia because the starting material doesn't have any actual ammonia in it). 'Extracting' however, should refer to separating a compound from a mixture or substance which already contains it (such as extracting the caffeine from coffee, because the actual caffeine is already present).

@electromagic3111 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience In Australia @mMoNiUm sulfate Doesn't have Ammonia in it. And to make coffee you should extract caffaine from a compound N make setup for coffee generator. Cool

@anti-fz9be 3 жыл бұрын

Do you intend to do the Ostwald process?

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

While the Ostwald process one of my favourite reactions and I'd love to have a go at it, I don't currently have the setup to get it working I'm afraid. My plan is slightly similar though, hopefully I'll be able to oxidise the ammonia to nitrate, just with some less extreme conditions (and likely a much lower yield).

@anti-fz9be 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience there is a video from astral chemistry, but they used platinum which is expensive. What is your plan?

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked that video, they even made the platinized fibre themselves I think, pretty cool. As for my ammonia oxidation, it's all about more electrochemistry! I found a file on sciencemadness detailing the process pretty well, and it definitely doesn't seem too tricky to copy: www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/files.php?pid=470124&aid=55681 I still need to make some potassium hydroxide though, which I'll hopefully get around to relatively soon.

@Telectronics 3 жыл бұрын

@@ScrapScience Did you know that ozone also works for this ? If I read correct you can also do ozone electrochemically and then pour/bubble it into the ammonia solution.

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

@Telectronics While ozone is definitely capable of oxidising ammonia, the reaction itself is pretty tricky to get going on a reasonable scale, especially with low concentrations of ozone. I think Extractions&Ire tried this at some stage and got basically zero yield after hours of pumping ozone from his generator. I might give it a go at some stage, but it doesn’t look particularly promising from what I’ve seen.

@sampleoffers1978 4 ай бұрын

I guess it generates ammonia, not a generator running off ammonia.

@royalrefining6182 3 жыл бұрын

What are you going to be doing with the ammonia?

@alberteinstein3078 3 жыл бұрын

Make meth

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

Eventually, the plan will be to synthesise a small quantity of nitrates under standard conditions using electrochemical oxidation. I still have a few more things to get before I can attempt that though, so it might be a while away.

@royalrefining6182 3 жыл бұрын

Scrap Science cool. I would have had to do this but I found a really cheap Chem company close by thankfully. Email me on royalrefining@outlook.com I might be able to help you out with a few things

@NishchayG 3 жыл бұрын

Sure those plans involve electrochemistry 👀

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

Of course, they always do. :)

@anthenriqe909 2 жыл бұрын

Speed?🥵

@user-on5yk9ui8s 2 жыл бұрын

Try make Electrochemical synthesis of ammonia directly from N2 article DOI:10.1039/C6GC02386J.

@ScrapScience 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! That's super cool, and doable with minimal equipment too. I'll definitely give it a go at some point.

@treefrog123a 2 жыл бұрын

Link please

@sahiltakalkar7512 3 жыл бұрын

can you make an hho torch

@ScrapScience 3 жыл бұрын

At this stage, I'm pretty terrified of burning hydrogen gas. I'd love to try one day but it won't be for a while.

@YouMockMe 3 жыл бұрын

I saw a good torch with electrolysis w a 5 gallon bucket; drill 2 holes for the car battery in-POS and in-NEG and 1 for OUTPUT hose you light up!!! ....if you're into being crazy over prepared, check out making carbon electrodes. You can fix your car with it's own battery or use them for electrolysis as seen many times on this channel. Cheers!

@gulfamali7808 Жыл бұрын

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@user-bg8dr6by6m 5 ай бұрын

Australia sucks for chemistry this is why I'm moving from Australia to the United States after i go to Ukraine that's if a survive. I am a deminer and there is no course for the removal of landmines here in Australia, its the army or the police force and I don't want to join none of them as deminers are civilians not army that's EOD as i don't want join them due to the fact i may not get the job i want in demining and yes deminers need to make explosives to blow in place procedure to remove unremovable mines. as they say if don't love it leave so yeah that's what I'm doing very restrictive I have chemist in my family that worked with mark olefiant. I know a lot about combustible chemistry. but i can only learn theoretically, not practically I have been doing this for 5 years now but awesome vid mate.

@DarrenTarmey Жыл бұрын

Who can you get a good idea of how concentrated it is, and if it to diluted I guess you boil of the water slowly.

@ScrapScience Жыл бұрын

You can measure the density with a hydrometer, and infer the concentration of ammonia from that. Otherwise, you can also titrate the solution to get an exact measurement. You can’t concentrate ammonia by boiling I’m afraid. The ammonia will come out of solution before the water starts boiling. The only way to concentrate it is to continue adding more ammonia gas to your sample.