An Analysis of The Simpsons: Post Golden Age & The Movie

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It feels like opinions on the Simpsons post season 9 are so universally accepted that they're unquestionable. So I'm going to question them.
/ stubagful
Stuff that I referred to/pictures I used:
Death of the Author by Roland Barthes - read it here
sites.tufts.edu/english292b/f...
Aspects of the Novel by EM Forster - buy it here
www.amazon.co.uk/Audible-Aspe...
Top 10 Worst episodes of the SImpsons from Kotaku
kotaku.com/worst-simpsons-epi...
The TV Tropes page on Flanderization
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...
The TV Tropes page on Jerkass Homer
tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...
Rio Blames Tourism lag on Lisa Simpson - Houston Chronicle
www.chron.com/culture/main/ar...
BBC news - Simpsons apologise to Rio
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainm...
Antifreeze Poison found in 10 wines - New York Times archive
www.nytimes.com/1986/04/16/ga...
Pew Research - How US Religious composition has changed in recent decades
www.pewresearch.org/religion/...
Members of the Westboro Baptist Church demonstrate at the Virginia Holocaust Museum on March 2, 2010. By JCWilmore - Own work, CC BY 3.0, commons.wikimedia.org/w/index...
Not quoted, but its a decent book I read recently and was on my mind a lot while writing - The Science of Writing Characters: Using Psychology to create compelling Fictional Characters by Kira Ann Pelican
Buy it here - www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Writ...

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@Stubagful

Progress at time of posting: midway through season 24 and only slightly losing the will to live

@akibared2048

It's really sobering to see The Simpsons poke fun at the show running out of ideas and becoming stale twenty goddamn years ago. Really think about that for a moment, they've been running out of ideas for TWO DECADES now. It's a miracle this show is still capable of being even semi-coherent.

@socklock1957

In your slight defense of Jerkass Homer and analysis of The Simpsons Movie, I will say it feels like Homer’s arc in that movie was a response to Jerkass Homer. In the Golden Age, there would be consequences for Homer’s actions that would run for the ENTIRE episode, and he would try his best to fix them (this shows that he has a heart and why Marge doesn’t just leave him), which is not how it goes post-Golden Age; he would do anything selfish and/or cartoonishly stupid and there’d be NO consequences, except on rare occasions and even then they’d get resolved so quickly. The Simpsons Movie has Homer act this way for the whole movie to the point where it affects his relationships with Marge and his kids and so they leave him, in other words showing that there are MAJOR consequences like in the Golden Age, which leads to Homer realizing how selfish he always was and, again just like in the Golden Age, leads to him trying to fix all of his mistakes and redeem himself in the eyes of Springfield and his family.

@thedarkness111

The Tony Blaire bit was actually one of the best in the episode 'cos after he leaves Homer says 'Oh my god! I can't believe we just met Mr. Bean' it's one of a very few jokes I did enjoy about that episode.

@RandomThumbVids

"Is the joke just Thing British?" YES. I don't know why but Americans go absolutely nuts for Thing British jokes. They weep with laughter at just normal sentences said in the UK so it doesn't surprise me The Simpsons did it

@ElodieCunningham

The Abe stuff really stings for me because he's one of my favourite characters because of the depth he had early on. He's a sweet, lonely old man who loves his family, but he was also an abusive bastard in his younger years, and it makes the relationship hard to square for homer. It's great stuff

@hamwise1792

"Basically the power structures of our capitalist system can be understood through the relationship between Comic Book Guy and Agnes Skinner." I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that.

@redjirachi1

TheRealJims does a good job at giving post-golden age a fair shake and analysis of the series.

@mr.moviemafia

Since the influence of South Park and Seth Macfarlane’s show were mentioned, I think FUTURAMA should also be mentioned. The point at which many people say The Simpsons started declining was almost the same time that Matt Groening debuted his new series. Futurama is a show where no “Treehouse of Horror”-style episode structure is needed as an excuse to do wacky, fun, out of this world gags because anything could be canon to that mainline universe. I always felt like Groening had so much fun with Futurama’s style that it ended up influencing how crazy and meta an “average” episode of The Simpsons could get, like with the Jockey’s, the Loch Ness Monster, the Allen Wrench alien, etc.

@carealoo744

I misread the title the first time as: "pre Golden Age" and was disappointed at the thought of this being a 2-hour video about those shorts and maybe season 1 and 2.

@ray-mc-l

My brothers and I noticed a strange phenomenon around this era. If we thought of a Simpsons quote during the day, that would be the episode that played on Sky that night. Eventually we realised it was just because we were thinking of Simpsons quotes all day, every day.

@L_Train

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@Doodlebob108

You sound sound so exhausted about how much Simpsons you have to watch, but here I am, rewatching the entirety of the Simpsons over and over again for years. I've probably watched this show all the way through more than anyone else.

@acidstrummer

On the subject of repeating the same episodes all the time, the Funzo and Gary Coleman Xmas episode got played so often on Australian telly that I was able to tell when that episode was on by the couch gag at the start.

@herbivarsawus4359

You can have an abusive parent be right to escape them, but also feel guilt. And yes, your mind can plague you with the times they were good (or, your brain is just telling you that). I'm in my forties and have that, when I cut that

@baddragonite

I think one thing is kinda missing in the "competition" chapter, is King of The Hill which leaned more in the direction of the genuine family style of writing so Simpsons was kinda caught between it and Family Guy for a long time

@BH-98

It's interesting seeing how the disscusion around post "golden age" simpsons has evolved. It used to be a case of everything post season 10/11 was just written off, but since the generation of fans during the 2000s growing up & all the episodes being widely accessable on Disney+ means there's a more nuanced discussion on the quality of the show.

@TotoDG

That "imagined ending" for 'Kidney Trouble' is more or less what happened in the Futurama episode, 'Obsoletely Fabulous'. While the two episodes are not one and the same, they have similar story beats (the main character escapes from an operation, heads out to sea, meets a gang of misfits, and eventually completes said operation). Only, in the case of Futurama, Bender