you were an atheist 🤨??

Ramon i became Christian same way like KZfaq :0 god bless

Ramon The Christian faith dont make sense at all

You never questioned your atheism? "Atheist propaganda"? "teology"? You think history, archeology and philosophy support Christianity? Are you sure this isn't just planting?

What misconceptions? What propaganda? Vague claims like that are unfalsifiable, they're true by default ... for you and only for you. If you want to address some specific misconceptions or propaganda by all means ... but you'll have to prove that's what they are. . How do history, archaeology and philosophy confirm Christianity? Neither history nor archaeology support the biblical narrative and as far as philosophy goes ... well, it can "prove" just about anything as long as you don't expect it to produce real world results. As to "teology" ... are you referring to Theology or Teleology? Either way ... how do they support Christianity and not every other religious narrative? . Sorry, but if being "open minded" means accepting rote, dogmatic ideology without supporting evidence you can keep it. Most people say "have an open mind" but what they actually mean is "believe what I believe because I say so". And to be perfectly honest, that's what every apologist argument for the existence of any god boils down to. . How do you think atheism "closes" the world and what, in your opinion, is "the reality"? . Faith, in religious terminology, is believing in something without evidence and in defiance of contradictory evidence ... how is that different than plain, old gullibility? There have literally been thousands of gods and tens of thousands of religions to worship them ... what makes your version of Christianity so different? . I often hear apologists and religious believers claiming that the evidence for the existence of their preferred god is everywhere ... but what they produce are stories, feelings and in many cases outright falsehoods. If you really want to convince someone you're going to have to produce something better than "I feel it in my heart" (or similar phrases). As I said above "believe what I believe because I say so" just won't cut it.

"Belief in atheism" is an oxymoron, because atheism is the state of LACK of belief in a god/gods, NOT a belief, belief system, worldview or ideology within itself. Your claim that you used to have "belief in atheism" proves you are lying. Immediatly cease this intellectual dishonesty.

+godnewevidence I have very hard times trying to educate people without them becoming rude, abusive, or intellectually dishonest. You weren't in the wrong at all, no worries.

atam mardes You believe in Evolution? Why? We have no evidence for it? I even made the decision that Evolution is a seriously flawed Theory before I ever became Christian, it's the silliest theory I've ever been told to believe. If you can give me actual evidence for Evolution on the *Genetic Level* then I'll believe in it again. The first cell would be a great start. (FYI, Richard Dawkins says that it's more likely to believe that we came from aliens in the very beginning, and not through the natural process) Why would you believe in something that's literally scientifically impossible? It hasn't even been observed on a micro scale over the span of 10 years of forced micro-evolution, nothing changed.. that's million of years in their time.

+The Inquiry Please Evolution takes time.... a very long time. 10 years is nothing in the evolution time scale. There's no proof for evolution?! I'm sorry but I dont think you what you're talking about. If you did some research about evolution you would find plenty of evidence for it. If genetic proof read about the Universal genetic code. By the way there's waayyy more evidence about evolution than there is about christianity. Big foot is more probable than god.

Angel Ivanov “No real evolutionist, whether gradualistic or punctuationist, uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of the theory of evolution over special creation.” There is actually no evidence for Evolution through the fossil record... the older "more basic" life forms actually have the same amount of complexity as their higher up "more complex" off-spring. In reality, there is no consistency within the fossil records, not one organism can be observed gradually changing from one species to another, it's nowhere found in the fossil record, except for humans... suspicious as that is. Dinosaurs never evolved into birds because the Chinese bird-dino fossils were fake, and the Archaeopteryx was found to be fake... Our 'ancestor' Lucy, actually has been put side-by-side with a pygmy chimpanzee skeleton, and with the genetic variation of the pygmy chimpanzee, it's 100% compatible... it's no question that Lucy was found near many other pygmy Chimpanzee skeletons... and by the Evolutionary chain, Lucy isn't supposed to be around if she is a Pygmy chimpanzee, but the evidence shows otherwise. This happens numerous times, actually.. Claims like the "softening of our jaw" or the "shortening of our pinkie" is only happening in developed Countries like the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, etc... no-where else is it found in any other Countries, no other people.. and it's not evolutionary, it's actually from eating softer foods, it puts less strain on our jaw muscles, so our bodies don't put as much cells into bone growth for our Jaw.. same thing for our Pinkies... on the genetic level, nothing is changed. We have even watched Millions upon Millions of years pass for cells to mutate in their code, any signs of Evolution at all... we have observed nothing in those 10+ years of micro-evolution, actually.. it is scientifically impossible by natural means for information to be added, or taken away from DNA in an organism, and it has NEVER been seen in any organism in our entire history. What's significant about the beginning of life, as for all that was know.. is that it actually requires a creator to make life, and from the fossil record we have... *all life* started at one point in time immediately, all together... every single animal, all body-types, every single kind of organism exploded in one instance. So, I say again.... where is this evidence? Not claims where credit is not due... but actual evidence. I'm speaking on a complete scientific basis, not claims like "genetic evidence" because we're genetically similar to apes, it's not even the full story.. most of our genetic similarity is animals cells which help our body resist deadly viruses, we're remarkably similar to Rats, their working genetic information is 97.5% similar to ours, but we're nothing alike in visuals like apes, and our RNA is only 50% similar to apes. Don't give credit where credit is not due.

atam mardes

so that"s where god is

@@darkace04 *"God is Light" 1 John 1:5, he[she/it] is everywhere, says words in many versions of the one and true bible(s).* *Yet, he[she/it] can't travel faster than the reality of physics.* Reality of Reality, or Physics, doesn't need words in a book, video, or any media, to be self evident. It's fukcing reality. No King, Dictator or Google CEO can change it.

FreethoughtGreg As it's written: "if you continue in My word, you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." So if one's argument is rooted and grounded in the truth of God's word, they aren't arguing from ignorance.

Why is it rooted in "the truth of gods word" if god cannot be demonstrated?

This video is one guy telling his personal story. There are literally hundreds of other videos on our youtube channel and web site which look at specific evidence.

Here’s mine: I was an atheist for years but I was a good person. Always watched what I would speak and always had the best interest in not causing harm amongst others. I got rid of social media for almost two years along with watching tv cuz those things just didn’t satisfy me any longer because all I saw was the bs they were spitting out that most can not see. I was also fasting and haven’t fornicated for 16 months. I also have gotten rid of a lot of old stuff that were only a burden because they held a lot of old memories. One night in my car, something came over me and myself manifested out of me sorta like a double image of me right in my plain view and that me was very dark and unhealthy and that me was killed and pierced with what seemed to be some kinda Fire of an arrow head or a spear that came down from up above and killed that manifestation of me. Right after that, I just wept and felt totally changed and sinning wasn’t a hard battle to do. My heart and whole being felt so free and light that even my singing went from a level 3 up to a level 9 in half a year. The experience made me a softer man in physical action but a convicted one in His deeds. Most friends and family couldn’t understand me and said that I have changed so much and they even find me boring because I don’t partake in their activities because my insides feels uneasy when surrounded by ungodly sights and sounds. Thank you Abba, Father for the second chance! Thank you Lord of Lords Jesus Christ for the everlasting love! Thank you also to the Comforter/Holy Spirit for saving me from my own darkness!

To each their own, and I genuinely hope he's happy, but his appeal to divine morality is flawed.

Most people, in most places and at most times, have thought that murder is wrong, theft is wrong, lying is wrong. I think there is substantially more common ground than you are admitting. (I agree that there are differences too.)

"Most people" Still not objective though. Christians during the Crusades, Inquisition and Witch Trials found no problem killing for their god. Just like ISIS now are doing for their own idea of a god. Hell, even in the Bible, God commands his followers to kill in certain times, the irony being that it goes against one of his own rules.

Two points in response, taking them in reverse order to the order you raised them: (1) If you want to have a serious conversation about moral values, I'm happy to oblige you. If you are going to jump about from one thing to another, and launch a different question every time you post, I'm sorry, but I'm out of here. (2) What about you? Do you believe there are objective moral values?

1. Different question? All of what I wrote was tied to the same point I was trying to make. Perhaps you misunderstood. 2. I believe that moral values being objective is probably impossible, since morality by definition can only exist subjectively. It is a concept, not a cosmic force inherent to the universe.

We were all atheists once upon a time 😃. None of us was born a Christian.

Sounds good. I am atheist based on reason, but an enthusiastic believer of having a conscious awareness and connection to the amazingness of the universe/life and base my life on the inspiration i get from it. It energizes my days and life into a liberating sense of connection/perspective. I can well believe that it sounds fantastical and childish but it works and gets me out enjoying a full life. Neils Bohr (quantum science top-dog) had a lucky horseshoe on his wall. Someone questioned his belief in this superstition and he said that he had been told that it works whether you believe in it or not. I can vouch for that. Spirituality is a useful inspiring idea rather than any tangible fact. There is no scientific truth in it other than that it can inspire a happy useful life.

That's what we call "God of the Gaps." Just because you are incapable of seeing the actual evidence doesn't mean you can just substitute god in. Even if we went so far as to assume that science wasn't backed up by any proof, that just puts it on the same level as religion, not below it.

It would be, but "science" was making claims that it was about to figure out all the big questions and leave no room for "the God of the gaps" over 100 years ago, back in the late 1800s. Since then, the things that have turned out to be stranger than we thought the natural world could be, and the things we know we don't know much about. have piled up. As far as the origin of life and all the various complex parts of all the things that have ever lived goes, the "actual evidence" doesn't fit the stories made up about it. It's not that we don't know how such things could happen, it's that what we see happening with unguided natural forces is just the opposite of what is needed to make such things happen. Creationists have no problem with real science, it's only the claims that are nothing but speculation and imagination contrary to observations.

First of all, I find it almost comical that a creationist is accusing science of being speculative and imaginative. Everything that is accepted as science is, by definition, not speculation. While not all theories can be tested repeatedly, there is usually an abundance of evidence found to back up such claims. Religion, on the other hand, is nothing but myth. I would challenge you to name one scientific theory that is nothing but "Speculation and imagination."

***** I'm not "accusing science of being speculative and imaginative." Science is almost entirely made up of things which can be and have been demonstrated to be possible and in fact usefully repeatable. However, the "theory" that life arose by natural forces alone has not. Likewise, the "theory" that evolution can produce all forms of life from microbes is not supported by the actual observations of biological variations and inheritance.

Of course it's supported by actual observation! What you are missing is that in the small timeframe in which humans have been able to observe evolution take place, only microevolution has been observed. However, from this information we can extrapolate that these small changes eventually add up to some very, very large changes. The proof is all there, just look it up. Also, I don't think you understand the significance of the word "theory" in a scientific setting. A scientific theory is something that is almost unanimously presumed as true by the scientific community and has mountains of evidence to back it up, but due to the nature of whatever is being theorized about, it cannot be repeatedly observed. It still pulls just as much logical weight as a law, it's just the nature of topics such as evolution that leave it as a theory.

We have some videos responding to e.g. Richard Joyce's claims in this series: www.focus.org.uk/bo17video.php

Thank you Tommy for your encouraging words :-)

What can I say? I think it’s very sad that the Christians you met were only responding with ‘don’t ask questions.’ I’ve met a few like that myself, of whom I think you could truly say that their faith was blind faith. But that doesn’t mean that asking questions is wrong, and it doesn’t mean that there aren’t any good answers to serious questions. And, ultimately, it does not mean that the Christian message isn’t true. As for dogma being dangerous, this is a sword which cuts in many different directions: Richard Dawkins seems pretty dogmatic to me.

Dogma is dangerous, yes, but tolerance (of those willing to tolerate back) is essential.

You provide a well-reasoned post. But atheism isn't a belief to push on you. Perhaps you just didn't like the personalities of the people who professed to be atheist.

This video is one of more than 300 on our KZfaq channel and web site (www.focus.org.uk). In this one, one guy is telling his personal story. In the majority of the others, we are looking at specific evidence and reasons.

He listed several books.

Perhaps the moral argument isn't as weak as you think! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aappmJedttqnaYE.html

I think that he is talking here about a basic argument for theism rather than atheism. Obviously, there is then more work to be done to work out which (if any) version of theism is true. This is not a problem.

godnewevidence Not a problem? There may or may not be some kind of 'god' somewhere in the universe but it is just as likely to be Allah as Jehova.

You seem to rule out in advance the possibility that if there is a God, this God would be powerful enough to communicate to us what he is really like.

I'm not ruling that possibility out at all, I just don't see any evidence that any gods actually exist, never mind communicating with us.

What would you consider to be evidence?

It would be interesting to know why you became an atheist, and then why you changed back.

***** Hello Timothy... I could hardly disagree with you more strongly than I do. Faith isn't having belief and trust without evidence. It isn't about shutting the eye of reason. Faith is about believing that something is true, and acting on that belief. And of course for anyone (atheist or Christian believer), we think we have evidence for what we believe (otherwise we wouldn't believe it). Here's an article I wrote about this a few years ago: www.focus.org.uk/faith.php

+Timothy Wenk As you grow in the faith and develop the skills to defend it, you will find that there is an abundance of evidence and logic behind believing. You will also soon discover that to be atheist and believe in random chance, or even more crazy abstract ideas like the string theory, you will need untold amounts of faith. No Tim, you are on the high ground here and the bible is your authority. The scriptures have been pressed extremely hard for centuries and yet they have stood strong, timeless and flawless. The prophetic value alone in the scriptures should give you confidence that what you believe is true. I'd suggest you stay away from these youtube atheists until you are better versed in apologetics. They are inherently intelligent people. They will often dazzle you with silver tongued scientific sounding lingo and without the proper armor you can be deceived. You will eventually come to a point where they are more humorous than anything and you will feel as sense of pity for them.

+sixthday132 Sooooo ... true.

atam mardes You talk as if you are among the vast masses of atheists in the world. You are almost irrelevant at 3-5% globally. Your Santa analogy speaks volumes as to your inability to grasp the complexity of this issue. Children believe in santa. Yet, I've never known an adult so suddenly become a believer, live in the faith and change their lives because of Santa Claus. Stupid comparison, delivered in a sloppy way in an attempt to reduce one of the only two possible causes of the universe. People are happier believing in God because we are spiritual beings made for worship and eternity. If you were a decent person you would not come in here hoping to shake someone's faith. Its not that you don't believe, it's that you don't want there to be a God. You are in love with your sin and immorality. You atheist are angry and so insecure about what you believe you feel the need to convince everyone else they need to be miserable too. Sad

ben glancy No been, it's not even a good hypothesis and is a model based on what? What are the parameters in which to create a formula on such a wild idea and who is creating the parameters? The string theory is stupid and based on nothing. So, please tell me how it has more evidence than God? And if it's "theoretical" then how does it offer evidence? I'm concerned at what passes for science these daysand how easy it is to draw you people in like drones.

Mark Rose-Christie Being made in God’s image is not about skin color. We share his attributes. We are like him more so than any other creature. We’re the most intelligent,moral, and spiritually inclined beings to ever have existed on earth. Humans are able to communicate with God through prayer other creatures do not congregate and pray to God.

We have a whole series of videos about the moral argument, starting with this one! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aappmJedttqnaYE.html You can find the rest of the series on our web site www.focus.org.uk

You might have been a so called christian for most of your life but I guess you havent ever meet Christ. Here lies the difference.

@@loryannejanice720 Wow, I don’t remember making this comment. I guess I was still a fairly new atheist at the time. Here’s the thing, I had completely believed that I had met Christ. I had many many spiritual experiences where I felt God was so close that I could reach out and touch him. I felt on multiple occasions that I could hear him communicating with me. I thought I had solid proof of answered prayer. But I came to realize that these kinds of experiences aren’t unique to Christianity. People of many religions describe having a “personal relationship” with their god or gods, with similar feelings of peace and euphoria, especially in group settings with music specifically designed to elicit those kinds of emotions, and also similar claims of miracles and “undeniable proof.” I also had to come to term with much of the Bible, which I previously thought of as literal history, as being literally impossible. This wasn’t what deconverted me, as there was a phase where I simply thought of many Old Testament passages as “spiritually true” or containing important truths. And it wasn’t an overnight decision to stop believing. It was over a year of painful realizations and the most sincere praying I’ve ever done in my life, throughout most of it continuing to profess that I would praise God through it all, knowing that he’ll “never give me more than I can handle.” The more questions were raised, the more I planted my feet and prayed for more clarity and guidance. Eventually the lack of answers wore away at my faith bit by bit until I realized that I didn’t really have any good reason to believe.

@@SirSethery i thought maybe that things would have changed during those 3 years. I understand your points, things can turn so hard and bad at times that it can only turn your faith upside down.. and you ask yourself why you are being put to the test like that despite praising God and holding tight to His promises. Maybe there is still a tiny light of hope inside of you waiting for Him to answer your prayers. Everyone has their own experience and path towards God, there are still unanswered questions, certain things that we would never understand and we'll have to accept that despite being hard. Dont be offended, He still loves you and waiting for you, He created you for a purpose and the Glory of the second house will be greater than the first, if you understand what i mean. I just wanna wish you Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year. Be Blessed

@@loryannejanice720 A no true Scotsman Fallacy. Who are you to question his faith in God?

@@batfleckforever3594 got nothing else to do dude? Goodnight

Thanks for your refreshing honesty. I'd share my reason why I believe that God is 100% real but you'd probably either think I was lying or out of my mind. Had I not a witness to the "event", I would doubt it myself and I still try and find logical explanations to this day. I even asked a preacher once, but even he looked at me with disbelief.

I'm truly sorry, I had to delete all of this. If they see it and do not believe it and continue in their ways, I've brought condemnation upon them and myself.

Well, in this short video, he is just telling his own personal story. There are many other videos that look at specific reasons, on this KZfaq channel: kzfaq.info

if thats the case, then you cant give us any good reason why we should believe christianity over hinduism or islam. its all up for grabs

***** because progress in human history,has been made possible by facts, proofs, and methodological verification. This means that if you state something,and you call it truth and reality,you have to show proofs of what you state. Is not up to me to disprove,is up to you to prove your statements. Faith is not proof,is choice. Faith is to willingly suspend rational thinking and take for good something, without cheking if it can be real or not. Science looks for truth, faith look for what you like to think it is.

*****​ atheism is lack of faith, we don'have any,what kind of faith are you talking about? It is impossibile to disprove something that does not exist, try disprove the bigfoot, or the unicorn. You can only disprove something that exists, But it is stated that is differenti from reality. Iif you say that the earth is flat,I can disprove it, because earth exists and it is not Flat,But god? God is a gap filler,used to explain what you cannot explain. Absence of disproval is not proof of existance. If it was I would worship the Bigfoot.

***** and here comes again the "extrapolator" defying the use of logic and grammar to obtain some sort of "advantage. I said "You can only disprove something that exists, But it is stated that is differenti from reality." Ad you see my friend, the sense is completely different, so please get things right at least. If I said only " You can only disprove something that exists" that wouldn't make any damn sense! You cannhave the same phrases, but what is idifferent is....ready? The fact that I am not the one stating that something exists, without producing a single tangibile proof, and placing faith in book because the book said it is like that. The difference between you and me is that I don't state something as real if I have no proof it is. In that case if you ask me if a being able to do wonders not matched by human capability exiasts, I will say "I don't know". You asked me if,beside the stereotypical image of the christian god, something godly exists: would it be less deserving of my deference? Still,you say if it existed and it can be proven, I will say,that if it was real,I would have no reason to deny it's existence like I don't deny yours or mine. Don't come to me and say what an atheist is, because i do know what I am,and I don't need your depiction of how you see atheism. Wenhave no faith,and we deny the existance of god as it is described in the Bible, in the Q'uran and other sacred texts. This is an atheist. We are talking about proving the existance of a being I may say it exist,not if it has done this or that. Qualities don't apply in the process of proving if something exists. Saying that god created the universe,does not male him more real and provable than a bigfoot. About the worshiping the bigfoot: it was a mockery to you,not an actual statement o_O Athesists are a group, I am representing them now,so I use "we" accordingly. A political movement is not defined by the use of the word "we" 

Frank Duse And good for you too for not being a total idiot about it and respecting other people`s beliefs, a rare thing indeed these days. I wish there were more atheists like yourself.

+Frank Duse ..no faith is required to know God exists..the fact that anything exists..the universe..intelligent beings..consciousness. .free will...which we all know does exist..is proof there is a God.. faith is needed however for God to act in our lives

I read the God Delusion twice and enjoyed it. But I have returned to believing. It’s good to be able to see both sides of the argument.

What point are you trying to make?

Thank you for this comment. In this particular video, he isn't really trying to give reasons - he is just telling his personal story. But on this KZfaq channel (and our web site www.focus.org.uk) there are literally hundreds of videos that do put forward reasons for believing, and we are adding more all the time.

Ok. I will check out your channel. I will say though, i would have thought the reasons he now believes in God would have been key to his story, particularly as the video is titled..." an atheist changes his mind about god." Without said reasons, it's hard to give any value to the conversion that the title suggests.

This is an important question - in fact, serious enough that we're planning a whole series of videos about it next year :-) However, for the moment, I would just raise two questions to consider: (1) If morality is just the result of the kind of evolutionary development you suggest, can we say that anything (racism, for example) is actually wrong? Is there such a thing as real moral values, and if so, where does it come from? (2) How could the kind of claim you've made ever be tested? In my mind it is a 'just so story' - an evolutionary account of how things came to be which sounds plausible, but isn't open to being disproved, and therefore has no claim to being scientific. Let me give you an example: why do dogs wag their tails? I have no idea, but I bet there is an evolutionary biologist somewhere who has come up with a convincing-sounding explanation. How could such an explanation be disproved?

(1) I guess you could say that evolutionary morality kind of combines utilitarianism with contractarianism. As far as racism and other things we think of as bad, I have no reason to think that there is a man in the sky that will punish you for beating or lynching people. Morality has to come from one's sense of human compassion and empathy for others. On the other hand, accepting a god as your source of morality leads to the Euthyphro Dilemma. No moral code that I know of is free from some sort of problem. (2) I'm not sure how the idea could be tested. However, I do notice that some animals have varying levels of morality, though hardly comparable to human morality in most cases. In the end, we don't have any way of knowing for certain how human morality came into existence. However, just because we don't know does not make morality by divine command the correct option.

OK, to respond to your second point first :-) -- I think what you originally said - I'm paraphrasing - is that because there is an evolutionary explanation for morality, there is no need to call on God. And my point is that absent any evidence, there is no reason to believe that the evolutionary just-so story is actually true.

The bigger issue is this engineer guy didn't even address Dawkins morality within from evolution, be it right or wrong, showing that he didn't read or analyse very well. At that point I can't listen to anymore.

blanca roca No, he probably did read the God Delusion, but obviously you didn't read the Mere Christianity by Lewis. Dawkins' explanation about morality is not an answer really, not even close.

You've thrown out a jumble of different ideas here (e.g. religion causes violence, different religions are contradictory, etc). Would you like to choose one of them that we can discuss?

I'm open for suggestions - including aspects I haven't touched upon.

Paid In FULL Why can't religious people spell or use punctuation properly? I find it is on par with their reasoning. "Jesus is the truth and the way that's fact" Talk about assumptions. Wow!

It can't be 'true for me' but not 'true for you.' It's either true (for everyone) or it's false (for everyone), whatever different views people hold about it.

Yes, a few years ago I'd have agreed with you, Godnewevidence, but now I'm not so sure. Remember that the deep questions about life do not necessarily have easily understood common-sense answers, dealing as they do with matters outside normal daily experience. I think one has to accept that people believe in a variety of ideas that give them a sense of understanding what their lives are about, appropriate to their own particular experience and psychological outlook. Everyone has to find their own route to that understanding.

I agree with you, up to a point. But - whatever people think (and however much it helps them, or doesn't) - there must still be objective answers to the big questions: either there is a God, or there isn't. Either there is life after death, or death is the end of everything. I'm not saying that it's necessarily easy to find the answers - just that there must be answers.

"there must be answers" - the rationalist part of me wants to agree, but when I consider the ill-defined nature of such things as "God" or "life after death", the diversity of possible interpretations of such things even in our current state of consciousness, I regret that I have to disagree with you!

What you are saying takes it for granted that - for example - the idea of 'God' must be ill-defined (just because people have many different ideas?). But this is not necessarily so. What if *God* himself takes the initiative and gives a specific meaning to the idea?

Well after many years of debating i cannot see the logic or reason why anyone could be an atheist.A Powerful Being is the best Explanation of why anything exists,Science itself Shows that something cannot just pop, or come into being.whatever start to exist Must be caused.The Universe according even to Hawking had a start an HE said Himself that there was no BEFORE the big bang.all time space and Matter started there. Yet he then contradicts himself as a true athiest wanting to eliminate GOD says Gravity somehow created the universe out of Nothing.But does not posit where Gravity came from!!! Gravity also was created at the BIG Bang. how did IT come about?

oh yes,we are commanded by God to spread his word. Now i have for more than 30 years witnessing to atheists ,agnostics and cultic christians the latter the toughest to get thru.Plus throw in the Prosperity teachers and its no wonder Jesus said the road is narrow. And today especially we have many Solid Christians in the Calvanist camp which is a highly debatable in house discussion.Very interesting and somewhat astounding.

i agree with that,but my statement is also true.i began as an agnostic and so so atheist,but i Know now without a doubt Christianity is Real and Jesus is the best and only answer to mans ultimate destiny.

Pascal's Wager. What if it turns out you were worshipping the wrong god and ended up in "Hell" anyway?

@@batfleckforever3594 even so its the only way to God by the torture of suffering by God the son in our place on the cross to satisfy God's justice against our sin and so that we can live eternal happy in paradise. What if your wrong. There's nothing to lose with faith but eternal dark for those who choose to reject eternal manshios for free etc

@@Jesusonlymediatorwithgod Lol. Pascal's wager has been debunked over and over. Why should I believe in your god any more than all the thousands of other gods that have existed throughout human history?

@@batfleckforever3594 thier God never rose again like each seed in spring ready to serve another year each creature at the exact time created the same time without which nothing can exist if not made the same day or week not billions years apart. Each flower is firtilisef ect by insects etc at same time shows a creator

@@Jesusonlymediatorwithgod So other gods didn't do the things that are a part of your religion so that makes your god real? Well, Batman can't shoot webs from his fingers, only Spiderman can, so that means Spiderman is real.

You are not living up to the name you have chosen! Please read the guidelines for posting on this channel :-)

godnewevidence Showing empathy and concern for the well being of this individual is absolutely living up to my name. He is clearly not a very rational thinker and is very confused. That can be a dangerous thing for some.

You are being dishonest. Everyone else can see this even if you can't. Certainly not a nice guy.

godnewevidence Nothing dishonest about rejecting claims that never met their burden of proof. Tell me what convinced you god is real? Then we'll see who is dishonest.

OK. Very happy to talk about evidence. You could do worse than start with this series of videos: kzfaq.info/sun/PLegZ3cdgTQ8zaCbU0zGl_lbivGpk6b12w

Piesho Nais Anyone who believes in spontaneous creation from nothing, with nothing acting upon nothing to generate everything, will never be satisfied with any evidence. Everything you touch screams intelligence yet you plug your ears in denial. Best of luck in your search, or lack thereof.

Charles Easterday "Anyone who believes in spontaneous creation from nothing, with nothing acting upon nothing to generate everything, will never be satisfied with any evidence." You mean something like "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."? You are right. Nothing can create everything out of nothing... unless you attribute that capability to a made-up being that suddenly is the only entity with the ability to create whatever it wants.

Philosopher Rene Decartes said part of the rationality that God exists was the fact that a non-perfect being was able to perceive of a perfect being.

shaun Brown that's no good reason...because if we are able to think of something other than non perfection ..perfection must exist..because without that non-perfection wouldn't exist and wouldn't have a name.

+MaryWarner Why are you implying that God had a beginning? The argument from the start is flawed. To have a plausible cause one does not need to have a cause of the cause. The Cause merely needs to be greater than the creation. In order to invent time and space, you would have to be greater than time and space and thus outside of both.

He eternal. There I said it.

Humans, they applied intelligent agents to things that were not caused by intelligent agents. Like lightning, wind. The original god was a god of the gaps, and it still is.

And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: The son revealed the father to all those who were seeking God in truth and were called of God and listened, and believed. If you are looking for evidence look into the resurrection, the eye witness accounts , the accuracy of the bible texts aswell as the mathematical back bone that permeates the word. Then ask yourself truthly what does reason , logic , rational thought and use of your senses tell you. To truly know God and the truth you need humble yourself and come to him as what we are , as sinners and ask his forgiveness accepting the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ (God the son) for the sins of the whole world that he took your place because he loved you and tasted death for you that he could give you his life and give you his Holy Spirit on believe sealing you , saving you and calling you a child of God 😊 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God.2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him. John

Where is the evidence that God is impossible?

OK, here's a thought experiment: suppose (just for the sake of argument) that there really is a God, and that he is something like what Christianity says he is like. Then this God has created us, and the purpose he has created us for is to know him and relate to him. Then 'not believing the right thing' isn't just like, say, not believing that New York is in America. It is rejecting a personal relationship with this God. And then what if this God... gives people what they want when they reject a relationship with him? That would mean something like living for ever knowing that the purpose for which you were created would not be fulfilled. I think that would be hell. If you want to focus on Jesus's teachings, then you need to think about *which* teachings you have in mind. A lot of what Jesus taught was not simply moralism ('be nice to each other'), but was about who he was and why he had come. The only way to avoid this is to be highly selective about which teachings you focus on.

godnewevidence The issue for me is that although i might suppose the first thought for sake of argument, there is no reason to believe it based on what i have seen, experienced and learned. Even if i did, there would be no reason to think people were created so that they could know god. Were mice and bacteria created for the same reason? What is your take on Luke 13 '33 Sell your possessions and give to the poor.Provide purses for yourselves that will not wear out, a treasure in heaven that will never fail, where no thief comes near and no moth destroys. 34 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.' I agree with the sentiment but have not sold my possessions and think that many old testament 'laws' are sheer mean-spiritedness written down to try and hold together an ancient community a few thousand years ago in a small region of the middle east. Following those teachings as Jesus states hopefully goes against all human conscience.

Hello Stu -- This is a pretty 'scattergun' approach to asking questions. I'm pretty sure that if you go off in many different directions, you will be able to ask questions faster than I can possibly try to answer them... but if you would like to choose *one* of these questions, I'm happy to try to discuss it :-)

Ultimately it depends on a chicken or the egg question. "Are people evil because religion is evil?" "Or is Religion evil because people are evil?" In the end it is because WE humans are evil by nature, and will will not admit it and pushes it over on religion and politics. To imagine a world where this was not so, where every crisis did not result in new atrocities, where every newspaper is not full of war and violence. Well, this is to imagine a world where human beings cease to be human. "As a species we're fundamentally insane tally. Put more than two of us in a room, we pick sides and start dreaming up reasons to kill one another:"

God bless you, you need our prayers

Two Sheds , Why would it make you feel physically sick?

Two Sheds why makes you sick ?

I pray your eyes are opened to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ soon, friend. Science and technology are just beginning to catch up with the Bible. It is amazing. Read the Bible for yourself....dont take what you think you know, or what you've been told about it as truth. If you really want the truth, pray to be able to understand it from your heart, and get to reading. It will amaze you. God bless you, in Jesus' name.