I would say no but I am the guy who 100 percented botw and skyrim

I can't express the amount of frustration I feel after exploring an area, running into a puzzle, and racking my brain for hours trying to get through only to realize I was gated because I didn't start the questline.

I wouldn't mind the exploration if the Treasure Compass worked properly without long cooldowns and it would also show mini puzzles that you tend to leave behind if you aren't using Interactive maps. I feel like the Treasure Compass are more of a hinderance than a useful tool. So I always stick to the Interactive Map for the chest completion.

I'm a former avid hiker who was diagnosed with a severe neurological condition 7 years ago. Long story short, I've had severe mobility issues since then and can no longer hike, let alone run. I use a wheelchair often. So obviously I'm biased, but the main draw of Genshin for me is, and has always been, its exploration. It allows me to somewhat connect with an activity I loved but can no longer do. Otherwise, I've seen its kind of story and the way lore is hidden in plenty of other WRPGs and JRPGs. Don't get me wrong, I'm still interested in hearing more about it, and its fun being so OP/trying different teams in SA after playing since 1.1, but without new areas to explore, I'd probably have dropped playing this game long ago.

Pre-watch comment: To Genshin's credit, exploration is really the only form of content you have. Once that is done your game loop consists of just completing events, doing dailies and rolling for characters. Exploration is it's main source of entertainment and permanent stuff that the player has at their disposal (barring the TCG, but it's not the main appeal of the game). Without it, Genshin would be much more lifeless with much less things to do than it is right now.

For me, a completionist by nature, there is no such thing as too much exploration. I could wander for hours looking for chests or simply nice views and never get bored. Most of my Genshin buddies, however, don't even care about exploration, and still haven't 100% Mondstadt for example. So I guess it's about personal preference.

For new players: You're already super late so there's no need to rush, take your time and enjoy the story if you play for the story. All the missable event cutscenses are on youtube if you want to watch them.

The incredible amount of exploration in Genshin is what sets it apart. Nothing else touches it in terms of world design and the sense of awe you get when you discover something new and breathtaking. This game never ceases to impress me with each new addition to the growing world of Teyvat. Even more impressive is how it all serves a greater purpose to the story and lore.

I like exploration. I have all pre-Sumeru zones at 100% and I enjoyed exploring them. My problem with Sumeru is that it requires too many units to explore comfortably. For puzzles you need Dendro, a bow character, Electro, Hydro and sometimes Pyro. I preferred where I could use the nations element + 3 characters that I liked or wanted to play.

Genshin's daily commision and resin system makes the game feel like work. It saps my energy from wanting to do exploration

I honestly love exploring in Genshin! Its just kinda sad that after you complete an Area, there is no logical reson to go back to it exept for taking a few cool screenshots or get the last 2% of exploration. I would love if there were some kind of replayable content in sertain areas just because it feels like a waist to design them so beautiful but then leave them in the basement where noone can see them! ( espacially that one cave in the North of Liyue where you play protect the monolit once, it would be so cool if you could repeat the challenge either for elite farming or just damage testing).

I actually enjoy exploring vast new areas Everytime a new area unlocks. And it just became my habit to explore beforehand then mark the interesting places that are locked of and has a potential to open after actually playing the actual quest/sub quest. And most importantly, take your time.

As a person who would happily spend hours just running around picking up random flowers, there is no such thing as too much exploration 😆 I am simply in my natural habitat 😂

Exploration is one of the main reasons I play the game, it's Abyss that's the chore for me personally. Both are technically optional, but I really enjoy exploration and finding as many chests as I can.

I will say that it is extremely taxing to explore the new regions, but it also ends way too quickly. It ends up being some sort of short lived exciting adventure, while also being quite draining at the same time.

Another great option to collect a particular character's materials (Boss materials, Weekly boss materials, etc.) when you do not have the corresponding requirements fulfilled is Co-op. For example, if you have Alhaitham but have not started the Sumeru archon quests, you can still get Scaramouche's boss materials for his Talents by hopping to another player's world and beating up the boss in Co-op. I have been doing this for a long time, so I don't feel obligated to have to complete a specific set of quests.

I wouldn't call any of this more than an inconvenience. It wouldn't be better for events to be in a vacuum which is detached from everything. A big draw of events is to meet characters and seeing them interact with one another.

Open world exploration should follow the stick-and-carrot method where you get awarded with rare treasures for finding hidden chests or doing difficult puzzles. Botw balances it out perfectly, whereas in genshin the Stick is much more than the carrot.

I think being "obligated" to explore is a bit of a strong word for it. From chests you don't actually get anything that valuable apart from the primos, and since genshing is a relatively easy game you can even complete it with the base characters. So apart from finding that few main bosses and the lvl up materials, you don't really have to do any exploration to actually play the game.

No content: *complains* Filler event: *complains* Archon quest: *complains* TCG: *complains* Too much exploration: *complains* Life: *COMPLAINS*

I've been playing since day 1 and love the open world, it's what keeps me coming back. They just need to provide better rewards for it. More world and side quests should give collectible momentos, unique weapons, pets, teapot items etc. Stuff that uniquely rewards you for doing the exploration content like the Dragonspine claymore.

I love Genshin's exploration. I wouldn't play the game otherwise.

In the cases you are talking, exploration is not the problem but more how the progression was designed. For the mats problems, I don’t think a specific shop in mondstadt that sells every region specialties would be too much to ask. For bosses, what about exchanges with the alchemy table ?

I love exploration in Genshin, I just wish it didn't end so quickly. I have so much fun exploring for days when the new area gets released but then when it's over it's back to commisions + resin - end for today. At this point I wish I started to play in like 2025 when most content is released and I could have more exploration to do.

I really wish they could come up with a chest respawning system (by making it fair ofc), because I'm voluntarily restraining myself from exploring because I know that once I do it, I'll have nothing more to do except events I guess? But given how little primos a chest gives us, it wouldn't hurt them too much to make SOME random chests respawn after a certain due time

No. Genshin does NOT suffer from the exploration. However, it suffers on one element: exploration, in Genshin, is not so much rewarding. I know, it's a different genre, but let's take a look at Breath of the Wild: wherever you went, you could find something. WHEREVER. And usually that game tries to reward the "micro" exploration, when you try to search for items and collectibles behind every stone. So the player is always rewarded and he is encouraged to go on with the exploration. The same happens, for example, in Elden Ring: a vast open world, and wherever you go you will find new, unique items, weapons etc.. It has less rewards, but at least they are always unique and new. Genshin, instead, is waaay less rewarding. There are various chests, but they're always the same. They should start to give some new and fresh reward, or at least they should try to stard placing more chests, in more specific points. Everybody remember the chests on the roof of the big castle, in Liyue Harbor, right? Or on the roof of Inazuma's castle. We need MOOORE chests like those ones. We need more chests (not more primo from the chests, but more chests) or more new rewards (for example some new 3* weapon from the chests), which can engourage us to explore even more and to pay even more attention during the explorations of the cities.

One problem I do have is that I very rarely am surprised while exploring. Apart from 2.0, 2.1, 3.0 and 3.1, versions typically only contain one or two areas. This dreepfeed means I'm never surprised at a new area, because I know that it will be there. Then, they spoil a ton of stuff with promo material. Finally, if you take more than 2 weeks to do something, you WILL get spoiled by the community.

I personally love the exploration of Genshin Impact finding the secrets and having lore hidden in these secrets is pretty amazing

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Honestly, my problem with exploring new regions is the lack of proper reward. I’m extremely goal/reward-driven when it comes to games and I feel like Genshin conditioned us to expect chests and rewards with Mondstadt and Liyue. With the new patches, the exploration content has been getting really challenging with only simple rewards like common or exquisite chests. It’s pretty inconsistent and the number of enemies you need to defeat for a common chest has gotten ridiculous. I think just creating more achievements and giving more exquisite chests would boost player morale with exploring because honestly I don’t really want to explore because I’ll get like 10 primos in like 30 minutes of exploring.

They should evenly place the number of chests on each location every update, that way players have a reason to visit old locations.

Exploring in genshin always was the best aspect of the game, it’s just for me personally I’ve just been so burnt out of the task that whenever new region sections come out I low-key dread starting it (but after I take the dive my interest in exploring snowballs until I finish everything)

The exploration is really only an issue for Sumeru, in my opinion. This is because half of Sumeru's locked behind world quests that you HAVE to complete in order to access it (Vanarana, Lost Nursery, Temple of King Deshret, Khaj-Nisut, Setekh Underground, Lost Oasis, Temple of Gurabad, etc.), otherwise the game yeets you out of the area. It's especially worrying because Kalpalata Lotuses, Scarabs, and Grease Pupas are more common in the locked areas than in Sumeru proper, and those are ascension mats. If the areas weren't hard-locked, it'd be better. Even still, if it were a full dungeon like the Chasm or Enkanomiya, unlocking it makes sense, because it gives you basically a WHOLE ASS REGION in return, so in my mind it's fair. Also: more proper dungeons, please. I loved exploring the Chasm and Setekh Underground because it felt like doing dungeons in a traditional MMO, there's exploration, routing, mob generation, bosses, proper loot, etc. Please, HoyoVerse, PLEASE MORE PROPER DUNGEONS!!! Hell, if some of them were repeatable domains for weapon ascension materials or recipe pieces for crafting gear (I'd imagine a weapon recipe that, instead of billets, uses actual crafting recipes like X Crystal Ore, Y Noctilucous Jade, Z Star-studded MalachiteTM, and A Insert Oreite Hereite.), that would be some of THE BEST content they'd make, and it would give some actual end-game content that they can tailor to not be Spiral Abyss but still be fun.

Personally I love exploring the world of genshin, sometimes I just wander aimlessly around the world and I find it so incredibly soothing. I started around the time nilou released, and I still remember when I stumbled into sumeru it was one of my favorite experiences ever in a video game. I do kinda agree with the example you gave with raiden if a new player gets her they won't be able to level her up cause they'd be locked out of inazuma, but that only really applies for characters from inazuma. My first 5* character was nahida so I didn't experience it first hand

I would say that exploration is amazing here, i just would like to be motivated more to explore (To me it feels repetitive to get always the same chests). What i mean is that it would be cool to get some special sword, or item, or a secret boss while exploring some secret zone maybe. Enkanomiya was close to this design and it was amazing. PS. commented before watched

Honestly to keep story progression coherent I can’t see a much better way than locking up parts of the map

Bruh I came here for literally unlimited exploration not the story, not, the game, not the combat. I love that if I can see something I can go there I can keep running towards the ends of the earth here

I honestly think this isn't a problem unless we are talking about Liyue & Sumeru Those two areas are just too damn big, it takes forever to find everything without an video guide

I wish there was a tier system of chests, like once you get EVERY CHEST in an area, a new wave pops up, and maybe every few patches they add them so we always have chest and stuff to do. For me personally I love the open world exploration

I think what mitigates it in Genshin is two things: 1) How long it takes for new explorable regions or sub-regions to actually launch, coupled with 2) how little reason there is to revisit areas once they _are_ emptied out. That's the thing about Genshin. They do drop a ton on you, but there's so long to get around to it, it still doesn't feel like too much, and in fact, can feel like not enough. I didn't touch the first desert expansion for the entirety of the first patch it was out, and yet I still have all 3 subregions of the desert at 100% now despite not touching it for like a whole month or so later. Now the new desert region is the same - I have it at 4% exploration, but I have who knows how long to do actually do it? Probably at least a couple of months, if not more. And the thing is, that's kind of _all_ I have to do. I have nothing left to do in Mondstadt, or Liyue, or even Inazuma. And that's the distinction between Genshin and other open world games. Other games give you incentive to backtrack, almost from the start. That's kind of the whole point of open world game. Granted, if you haven't gotten 100% on a region then you have incentive to revisit them, but the moment you do have 100%, what's the point? Which again, is a thing mostly due to how long it is between expansions. There's a ton to explore but we're doing it at chunks at a time which nerfs the experience in my opinion. I want to know what the game will be like in the future (or even now) for those who start the game and truly _do_ have a ton to explore all at once. But for anyone who has been playing consistently and is caught up, nah, it doesn't feel like too much. In fact, can feel like the opposite. Only reason my new desert is at 4% is because I'm afraid of actually completing it and minimizing my content.

For me, i love exploring but i'm just bored of the sumeru's desert area. All the previous areas looks vastly different to me, that's why i like exploring them! But for the desert area in sumeru, looking at sands and only occasionally going underground feels repetitive, so it's not my favorite place to explore :/ The area getting bigger and bigger feels so taxing

too much? WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH

The endless unskippable inane dialog that goes nowhere is a big part of why i dread even coming back for events... And why when i saw the 'Skip" button pop up in Tower of Fantasy, i felt this huge weight fall off, and just felt like, THANK YOU!!! I might be home..

For me exploration is the core reason why I like Genshin. Rewards are cool but I just love going onto starsnatch cliff and sitting on that one log and looking down at windrise and mondstat with dragonspine in the background and the light of narukami shrine far away in the horizon. Its such a relaxing experience. I don't feel like I'm being forced to explore because I love exploring. Also helps I'm a 1.0 player and always upto date on events and quests. I do agree on the new player experience being bad though.

I don’t mind the exploration, gives me something to do once I finish up all the quests, and ensures for new players that there’s always a means to get more primogems before they start spending money. Personally, I really wish hoyoverse just respected players time more with the quests they gave us to do. The dialogue based stuff from dailies is already bad enough on its own, but it just takes longer since we can neither skip over dialogue from a quest we’ve done before, nor can we just get text that moves fast enough for us to button mash through

I would say it depends on who you ask. If you're trying to speedrun the game then yeah, not a good idea. If you're trying to get everything to 100%, good luck trying to find those last few chests when you're 98% done. Personally, I love how big the world is and I don't mind it, same as I don't personally mind not having everything fully explored. When I have the time to sit down and run around, it's good to know there is a potential for me to actually still find something even after playing for 2 years. My only problem with exploration are underground areas like in the dessert, Hoyo please I get lost all the time-

I just have one concern about exploration. Based on data we have collected so far, each time a new region is dropped the amount of oculi required to level up statue to max increases. You might think this is not that significant but boy, you don't know the struggle for Traveller mains out there just to get all the cons from the statue. Monstadt and Liyue is easy but Inazuma and Sumeru is the death of me. Imagine if Fontain has more oculi than Sumeru, that's literally my worst nightmare.

You can actually take the waverider to the wolflord without the quest lmao

I started 5 months ago and yesterday I finally 100% the entire map with every quest & secret quest completed, except fishing & hang-outs. I want MORE exploration lol.

"Most of it(dialogue) is just banter between characters anyway" Yes, and they are, for the most part, written wonderfully. I'm a Slice of Life enjoyer, and honestly, my experience with Genshin's story has been amazing. (Aside from many parts of Inazuma, and the Shenhe Archon Quest, that was a bit of a letdown.) Edit: Oh no, are you the TenTen type, with almost every single Story and World quest since the start of the game not being done?

As the map gets bigger, at least allow us some transportation options That's one thing Tower of Fantasy got right for such a big map

Exploration isn't a hindrance to limited events, limited events are the hindrance to exploration. Genshin was marketed as an exploration game, and exploration is the most enjoyable thing it has to offer. Most of the events I do solely for the limited rewards, in the same ways as dailies.

No, I need MORE

Funny how you mentioned Raiden Shogun as she is my 1st 5-star I got when I started in September 2021. It took me a month before I could finally unlock everything to start farming for Raiden.

While asking for skipping dialogues, lets also ask to skip combat. An auto-combat for overworld and auto-clear for domains and abyss 8-12. Not everyone enjoys and have time for the combat so it would be fun if we can just skip it like how we can skip dialogues and cutscenes. No one is gonna force anyone to use the auto-combat or auto-clear so it shouldn't be an issue to anyone. Edit: We should also have an auto-explore feature where the character just goes to the nearest chest or puzzle and clear it. Then have auto-play feature where you can toggle all of this one. It'll use the skip function when dialogues appear, the auto-explore function when the quests are done, the auto-combat function when an enemy is encountered, and an auto-clear function when the resin is full or the abyss reset. Nobody has the time or interest to play the game so let's just skip it all.

I always make sure to take it slow and savor everything when a new area comes out. To me it's the only way to keep from burning out in between major patches. I still haven't finished the latest archon quest, Aranara stuff or Golden Slumber for instance. It really does annoy me when events or new characters' materials are locked behind these but I think it's better than binging a new area for two days and then being stuck with nothing to do for months.

If you rush to 100% area, then sure it is really taxing and time consuming endeavor. If you're taking things slowly on the other hand, exploration in genshin is one of the best things this game has to offer.

I have two main thoughts here: - Story/event dialogue needs a major overhaul. It needs a skip button as well as a back button and log. I can't tell you how many times I've hit x when a character was still talking in an attempt to display all the text at once, and then accidentally selected the traveler's response, which meant that I was unable to read the text without pulling up the recording of my gameplay that my PS5 automatically provides for me. And don't get me started on characters talking to me while I'm fighting, which would be fine if it was voiced but it isn't. Text either goes by too quickly or too slowly and it satisfies no one. - There needs to be a way for players to access areas out of order. Maybe co-op could be the solution: you can visit another player's world to do the event if you haven't unlocked Inazuma, for example. Or there could be a portal that unlocks it temporarily for the duration of the event, locking you to the immediate area where the event takes place and teasing the region to you to make you interested in exploring. I don't think the other regions will be a problem in the future, since only Inazuma was truly locked down, but that still leaves places like Enkanomiya and the underground chasm locked to world quests that can only be done after significant progression. 5 characters (Shenhe, Miko, Yelan, Shinobu, Heizou) use those boss materials. Sure you could just not wish for Inazuma characters, if you haven't unlocked Inazuma yet, but Shenhe and Yelan are both from Liyue.

As someone who hast startet the game a year ago (at the time Sumero was really close finishing its archon quest meaning its was quite similar to when the video was uploaded) I can say one thing. The only characters that were not able to get an instant upgrade were the ones from Inazuma. And one thing that was absolutely not mentioned in the video: You are not able to max level your character on day one! Meaning levelling up a character is at the beginning restricted with your adventure rank. So even when you are not able to upgrade your Shogen you can still equip her with a good weapon and good artefacts (Something that you will probably overlook at the beginning) and use her for your game quite good. Furthermore one thing. When you are a f2p player (which I am) who has not spent a single penny on this game, you will realise that through exploring, you will get quite an amount of primogems to wish for your next character. And it is not required to explore a region to 100% just to get this one thing you need to upgrade. And finally, Genshin did a really good thing balancing between story and open world. Because in games like The legend of Zelda, breath of the wild, you’re just thrown into the world with no direction and also, no reason to explore it. Having enemies that are 20lv over you and one shot you just because you decided to go to the wrong place first. For more health you have to grind these temples (you need to complete 4 to do anything) that are at random places in the world. And you get no Direktion on what to do for anything. While in Genshin you have the clear story quest that leads you to the different places. Introduces you to the characters. And Guides you through the world. (Doesn’t mean that the grinding isn’t sometimes better). But your not getting thrown into the game after the tutorial and be like „Well good luck“. The quests give you a clear direction (Unlike Botw where you get one random quest that has to be done at a different spot in the world with no hints what so ever to get this quest done.) And when you get into Genshin, you can decide if you want to go on with the story or with exploring or levelling up your character. You can do what you want. Is it annoying to miss a day for resin? Yes but only if you’re active using it right now. Is it annoying to miss a big event? Yes, but to be fair, how many talents of your characters are actually that high Upgraded that you need every crown that you get? As my experience, the stress or drama you get, for grinding is when you plan to get every single character (Which is only possible when you invest a lot of money into the game) and upgrade them to max. Level. There are many videos or people, that play Genshin, recommending to only focus on one team. Make this strong and from there on you can do other characters. And I think this really nails it. It takes in the game a long time to even be able to upgrade your character to max. Level. Another thing is, your characters don`t need to be perfect. This is very often over shadowed by KZfaq and twitch. Having something decent is good enough. i could stop for a month and go on where I’ve stopped. I would even get some welcome back rewards from Genshin. And to everyone starting new with the game. Don’t stress yourself. Take your time and enjoy the game. There is like every month new content. So you dont‘t have to rush and get there. It will not run away from you. The story will wait for you to be ready for it. And to everyone wo is still playing and feels its more a burden than fun, turn off the game for like 15 days. And if you feel like it then turn it on again. And you will see, nothing has changed.

I think they should add boss abyss and some kind of store for mats where the currency would be “activity” or where you can exchange mats 1 to 1. Even if for the duration of the rerun I’d be great

When I started out in 2.1 my first 5 star was Kokomi. I couldn't level her bc I hadn't unlocked Inazuma but my fear of missing out was always smaller than my fear of running out of content. I took my time with the game, played every day sometimes the whole day and unlocked Inazuma after about 4 months. I wanted to explore the first few islands first so it took me an additional 2 months so get to Watatsumi Island for the Sango Pearls. When I finally got Kokomi to level 90 it felt rewarding and I was proud of myself that I didn't gave in to the pressure. Exploration is the thing I enjoy most about the game. I love the fighting and my characters are more than decent if I might say so. But exploration was always my main focus (+ the quests)

i hate walking to an area and i’m suddenly in an unskippable cutscene for a random mission in my quest book i didn’t want to do yet

Something I didn't know about until recently is that you can join co-op matches against weekly bosses you've yet to unlock in your world. You are still restricted by World Level and Adventure Rank however. So, this is really only beneficial for returning players. If we want to go more into the subject of co-op in Genshin, it could use some more loose restrictions and definitely improvements. > Ping everyone to your location or a point of interest (chest, oculus, enemy, locked teleport waypoint etc.), albeit with some cooldown to prevent spamming. > Color-Coded player map markers. > Show Elemental Burst icon to everyone if your active character's Burst is ready. > Make Andrius' battle arena function more like a Trounce Domain. Through its greatsword, you can search for co-op matches. > When someone requests to join your world, display their AR and WL in the notification box.

Genshin is ultimately a casual game and is very much designed as such Like it's really a small minority of the total player base who is actually caring about things like resin cap

List of unaccurate information in this video : - The game has 3000+ chests, not just around 1000. - The tsurumi island boss isn't locked by the island questline, it is specifically located out of the fog. - The seirai boss is only locked behind a short world quest, you don't have to do the inazuma archon quest to unlock it, you only need to get out of Ritou, which is pretty fast. - You can do every quests and all exploration in the game on your first day if you want. There is enough adventure exp in the game to get to AR45+ without any daily activity. The only thing that is time gated is character progression, which is only useful for the endgame system (spiral abyss). - Raiden isn't "usable" until you reach inazuma, this is completely false. I've seen plenty of new players use her without any issues. A lvl40 character can take on the whole game without any issue since weapon level and artifact level are more important than character level, especially early on. - Weekly boss talent resources aren't an issue, there are needed for talents over level 6, which are available from AR40, while the whole story is unlocked at AR35. And then again, it's only necessary for spiral abyss. - New players don't care about being locked out of event, they have already plenty of stuff to do and most of the time they don't even know the events exist. They already missed several years worth of event, so what's one more ? It's negligible.

For me, I am fine giving every area a once over. But then it becomes tedious. You do it and are left with 80-90% progression, and it's so much extra effort to 100% complete for the rewards that you get. I am feeling the pain though of having up-to-date characters sitting at lvl 20 or 40 in my inventory because I don't want to skip/rush and ruin the game for myself. A potential fix I see is having the ability to swap old materials for new materials. But so that it's not abused by those who have a crap ton of older materials, once you unlock the ability to acquire yourself you can no longer craft. And obviously, the efficiency wouldn't be great, but it would be a good way to let 2 weeks players start using their Raiden somewhat, let alone say the Natlan and Shneznaya characters when those eventually drop.

I’ve been playing for a little under a year and have only made it to Inzazuma (sp?) because Im constantly getting distracted by exploring and completing puzzles, getting every chest in an area, and random side quests. For a “mobile” game I think they did an amazing job with the exploration.

It's interesting that you made the topic of the video "does Genshin have too much exploration?" and made the the core part of your argument about story gating, unskippable cutscenes and too much dialogue. I think the best part of the game is easily the exploration and if you're not here for that then I'm not sure why you're playing Genshin Impact haha. I do agree that the new player experience is pretty painful and I even hate being forced to explore a new zone when a new character comes out and I need to ascend them or their weapon and their materials are all brand new content but it's a small price to pay for such a rich and dense amount of cotent.

Yeah, one of the things that stop me from exploring as much as I like to do is that each important mission has metric tons of pointless dialogue, you can keep banter in less than 20 phrases, and the daily promos and resin kinda stop me from exploring

Tbf, Inazuma is canonically locked before the story because it’s literally a locked in country refusing any new entries, it’s also blocked by a storm. Sumeru isn’t locked off that same way since it’s not actually hostile to outsiders in the same way

Genshin is such a unique game that players with vastly different gaming backgrounds want it to be something that is more traditional, something more akin to what they are used to: Gacha players want some uninteractive experience; with menus and big pp numbers being all that matters Open world players don't want linear progression (even if that's what 90% of open world games do but that's another discussion) Action rpg players want some other stuff and so on... It really does seem like Genshin Impact attracts the more vulnerable gamers from these corners, the ones with more addictive personalities: be it collectors, completionists, meta slaves, min maxers, whales, etc. The topic at hand it's just crazy. The open world exploration gacha game has too much exploration? What's next, the game has too many waifus and husbandos?

I love all the exploration. I go out of my way to get 100% in every area, fully level all the statues and trees, complete all the big/important puzzles and side quests, etc. Unfortunately I find myself exploring too efficiently since I've been playing so long, which means I end up getting through exploration too quickly.

Me with 100% exploration in every area: idk

I don't mind the exploration, what I do mind is the lack of map pins for marking certain locations for collecting materials and I wish the world quest is dubbed since reading long dialog tends to get boring.

I agree, I hate how skipping cut scenes isn't an option. I've been commenting "please add an option to skip dialogue" in every in-game survey I've taken

For me, I can definitely answer with NO! I wish we had even more exploration. I started playing last year in May and only two weeks ago, I finally got 100% in all the regions of Mondstadt (minus Dragonspine). Granted, I'm somebody who only plays this game an hour or two a day (don't have more time!), but I still want more exploration, puzzles, interesting quests (like the one to unlock Tsurumi island in Inazuma, the "Golden Slumber" quest from Sumeru). Exploring is really my most favourite thing to do in Genshin and I think without it, I would have stopped playing after a few weeks.

Wow…. Stumbled upon ur second channel and realized that it was genshin content :”) immediately subscribed because I used to watch every single video back when you were smart bored, and uploading maple vids regularly.

no, I actually wanted every single region to be at least twice as big. give me more exploration and world quests please

I LOVE the exploration in this game. It's for sure my favorite type of content in it and a huge reason why i continued playing for the last 2 years. That being said, Genshins exploration has some really major flaws i don't see people talking about that often, and to be honest, and they're the reason why some may think it has "too much" exploration. One of bigger ones being the FLOW of exploration in Genshin. The maps itself are amazing, the landscapes beautifull, and it wrecks older Open-World like BotW in that aspect, no question, but the exploration itself can feel way less exciting, and for some, even boring. Thats cause Genshin exploration has 4 main colectables: Chests, Oculi, Waypoints (and domains), and Statues of the seven. Chests feel.... fine to collect, but because of the gacha system only. In the exploration aspects, it gets you NO REWARD. You won't use any sword on it, the AR EXP only helps to get more wishes, and any other item are USELESS in late-game. It doesn't feed into your exploration in any way. Oculi are probably the best collectables in Genshin, and were specially good back when they actually rewarded you with stamina, you get them and it feeds it back into more time running/climbing. Since then, it's.... Fine.... But it removed a kit of what was special about them. TP/Domains are a little bit more usefull, since you will be able to come back there later. Feels specially good when it's anctual good area you will need to come back. Since most of them you rarely use. Statues of the Seven are glorified Waypoints, the map is usefull but sometimes ruin exploration, there is no challenge to get them so they don't feel rewarding, and they don't help all that much after activating it, since you almost never need to dumb Oculi that frequently. In comparison, all of BotW system feed back into one another. Chests help you explore, you NEED these weapons because of durability, the same goes for Koroks. Domains not only serve as teleport points, but a little challenge to break up your exploration, you can rest a bit and try another type of content keeping the experience fresh, and in the end, you always gain more stamina or life, which are both important. Towers are actually HIGH UP IN THE AIR. They serve a purpose to let you look far and see points of interest, even after unlocking the map. And the map feels rewarding because you had a small challenge to get there. Every single system feeds back into more exploration and makes the content contantly change slightly, so the second hour of exploring doesn't feel the same as the first. In the end, the exploration of Genshin feels DENSE. New regions really want you to do the quests before exploring so you have everything unlocked and it puts you in a awkward position, where if you try to mix a bit of exploring/quests to keep the experience fresh, you're punished by barriers and doors. The game wants to do the quest firsts, then go chest after chest after chest, exploring for hours on end just to get items you will need on OTHER PARTS of the game. Theres no durability and no insentive to change characters. So it can quickly get stale and if you dont really love exploring, it will feel like "too much".

I'm gonna have to take a hard disagree on the idea that genshin should give players an option to skip all of the story and move straight to exploration. Hoyo wants to create the type of gameplay environment wherein players have a personal and emotional connection the world they're exploring, and they do that through the story quests. Asking them to abandon that for the convenience of impatient players is a little unfair. This is one of those situations where I'd say that if you don't like it, then this just isn't the game for you.

Almost all content creators miss the fact that you get ascension material from testing the character, mean you can ascend once, which is enough for the first week of the game.

You can co-op on worlds that have unlocked a certain world boss, or regions that have a certain regional specialty. I've done it a few times before.

I love exploration so this isn't an issue for me. A much bigger problem is the large and ever increasing number of characters. It's part of the gacha mechanics so I don't expect them to stop releasing characters. But I feel like the cost is lack of investment in characters' stories and new characters being weak so that they don't overpower old characters. Getting new characters is also tiresome, as you need to grind hard and login every day to get them and level them up. And after you've explored the world and played through the story, the only thing you are left with is grinding for characters. I think they should include more variation in game activities (TCG is a step in the right direction) so that you can actually use the characters you own after you finish the story and you are waiting for the next big update

I think I have much more of a stomach for the grind and fluff, but I don't mind there being more options available for people who don't.

as a mobile player, i absolutely hate exploration. time challenges take so much to actually tell you what is the objective in the time trial itself, while time is still running out, many platforms don't load, nonexistent textures of the ground and the walls and the fact that sometimes you get noclipped into nothingness so you go under the whole map of teyvat and you keep falling and falling till you have to teleport, you have to wait for chests to actually drop items, you have to wait for enemies to actually load to begin with and it usually happens with newer regions released, last year the struggle was in inazuma and now it's in sumeru, and so having 100% on mondstadt and all inazuma islands, with couple 80-90% on liyue is already a huge achievement for me

I wish the worlds regenerated once you hit 100%. After exploring everywhere there isn't much else to do in the world.

The funny part is that in Honkai Impact you can skip the dialogs even when they are arguibly longer than genshin's, I wonder why they didn't implement that in Genshin :(

From what I'm getting, you're playing for the rewards and your "progression" instead of the actual game. With that mindset, of course you'll hate any actual content. Content becomes a barrier to progression, instead of being, well, the part you're looking forward to (with the "rewards" simply being nice bonuses). Most of your issues come down to your mindset.

I think the exploration is fine, but it’s extremely obvious with the desert, there is too much you have to do first, before exploring. You need all these gadgets and all these quests to do anything. And I can’t enjoy the desert because of this :< This also happened with the chasm explorer quest, and the aranara quest. I like them individually as story, but I hate that I have to do them to explore.

hi man thanks for the video, love the topic and i hope you'll make more like this. i have one suggestion though, maybe try mixing your audio to have less bass, i'm not sure if it's the mic or just because you have a very bassy voice, but even on my treble-centric headphone your voice is very bass-y and a bit hard to listen to, by that i mean it's kinda murky, i think if you reduce the bass or increase the treble and make it criisp via mixing, it's gonna have a lot more clarity and easy on the ear to listen to.

Same old point, but it doesn't hold up, because new player can literally speedrun the game to ar 30 in 2 days! And btw it's very unlikely that you get an early 5star (excluding rerol which is done by veteran players anyway). So by the time people get their first 5 star it's already usually a month gone which is more than enough to open all regions, ur point doesn't hold up

0 seconds into the video I just wanna say I am ALLL in for the exploration. In fact I think there should be more of it. More secret chambers, more puzzles, more secret quests without markers, more. Exploration its one of the best things of genshin. .... that said now yes imma watch the video

The issue, to me, is not the amount or necessity of exploration, it's the gating. Either behind story, massive world quests (looking at you Aranyaka,) or non-intuitive puzzles. If I could just run, jump, climb, etc. around the map to explore that'd be very fun and chill, but the other stuff just gets in the way and should be its own thing, maybe giving weapons (like getting the Catch from fishing) or nice piles of other resources. Just my $0.02.

I wanted to make a 2nd account but I stopped myself purely because of how big genshin has gotten. 4 nations so far and already it's so unbelievably big with so many oculus, chests, puzzles, waypoints, nation quests...etc etc to the point where it'll become a full time job to run 2 accounts. So no thanks I'll stick to my main and be happy.

Basically to summerize, you want an ability to skip dialogues to be able to speed-run through quests just to get certain things that are locked behind it. Exploration itself isn't the problem.

I started playing at hutao's rerun and i did everything i can to get everything. Even some rare achievements, but after sumeru came out, i felt like i was an old gramps who doesnt feel like exploring that much. Even the character side quests havent been touched. Idk maybe its because i feel tired of genshin

i like that there's so much to explore in genshin. when i get home from work i can just turn off my brain and walk around. what i dont like is sweaty try hards who 100% a new area in 1-2 days then cry about how genshin has no content and is dying. blows my mind how people do that when sumeru requires you to do 193902 hour world quests to unlock all the areas

my issue is that especially since 3.0 they've really started hiding exploration mechanics behind skippable side content

just finished the new area in sumeru (100%), so no, i don´t mind exploration in Genshin. i enjoy it very much. Especially since it does not have a billion icons on the map like other open world games

Imagine if there was a character domain in mondstadt that lets you farm a character’s ascension materials (although in a more inefficient manner than outright exploring and killing the boss) in case you are unable to collect from an area or don’t have a boss unlocked yet. Maybe it updates every banner to give out the materials for the current banner characters