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An Introduction to Estocs and Thrust Oriented Longswords

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Skallagrim

Skallagrim

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@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446
@mephistophelesthesilentchi3446 6 жыл бұрын
"I am not R1 spamming. I am merely employing refined historical thrusting techniques that deftly target the gaps in your armor..." - The Neo-Estoc User
@ToozdaysChild
@ToozdaysChild Жыл бұрын
The Chad Estoc-Enjoyer vs the Virgin Greatsword User
@silentxphoenix7188
@silentxphoenix7188 6 жыл бұрын
"R1 R1 R1 O O O O O *ESTUS* R1 R1 R1" -Sun Tzu "excerpt from the Art of War"
@cip689
@cip689 6 жыл бұрын
Tekhartha Zenyatta a wise technique indeed
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 6 жыл бұрын
I think you'll find that the original text actually calls it Sunny D
@silentxphoenix7188
@silentxphoenix7188 6 жыл бұрын
Oooo thats good i really want to change it now, but i cant... That *edited* mark would haunt me til the end of my days.
@silentxphoenix7188
@silentxphoenix7188 6 жыл бұрын
... *starts unscrewing pommel*
@ronaldmcputin127
@ronaldmcputin127 6 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Mystakaphoros
@Mystakaphoros 6 жыл бұрын
These are Thrusties. They love to thrust; in thrust they trust, and thrust they must.
@Skallagrim
@Skallagrim 6 жыл бұрын
Ah, a rare Dungeons of Dredmor reference. Thumbs up, good sir.
@justmutantjed
@justmutantjed 6 жыл бұрын
Bravo. Love DoD.
@traior246
@traior246 5 жыл бұрын
Trusty Thrusties
@holepunch1829
@holepunch1829 4 жыл бұрын
and no matter what, inside a woman they won’t thrust
@moesnnargul1717
@moesnnargul1717 4 жыл бұрын
"harness the power of whatever and like, stuff" EMOMANCY!
@hmoobmikah
@hmoobmikah 6 жыл бұрын
1:20 Estoc is a French word, meaning R1 spam.
@nef36
@nef36 4 жыл бұрын
After all, French and Latin make everything sound fancy.
@paulieripface0073
@paulieripface0073 6 жыл бұрын
Skal just summed up the entire Dark Souls PvP community
@ixflqr
@ixflqr 6 жыл бұрын
PaulieRipFace00 *smashes humanity* *chugs divine blessing*
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 2 жыл бұрын
So dark souls has armor physics?
@sebastianb.3978
@sebastianb.3978 Жыл бұрын
@@mihailmilev9909 he was referring to the intro bit. R1 spamming is the PVP meta.
@actionturnip395
@actionturnip395 6 жыл бұрын
Ironically the intended gimmick of the estoc in those games is that it has some slashing attacks, where the normal rapier has only thrusts. They got em switched around.
@theProClaimer
@theProClaimer 3 жыл бұрын
He mentions that's some estocs could slash. There aren't unbreakable rules in production and usage of weaponry, especially in feudal era
@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286
@algorithmgeneratedanimegir1286 11 ай бұрын
@@theProClaimer This is especially true when you look at some of the weirder weapons produced in the time. Things that clearly weren't the most effective design, and that if you made in a show or book people would scoff at. Yet, some Lord told his blacksmiths that THIS is exactly what he wanted, and so they made it.
@Cosmic_A.A.
@Cosmic_A.A. 6 жыл бұрын
0:00 - 1:27 DEX build 1:33 - 2:06 INT build
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a 6 жыл бұрын
>skall >estoc memes Oh shit. This thing is contagious.
@DARKERanimexxXxx
@DARKERanimexxXxx 6 жыл бұрын
"tries to use greentexting outside 4chun" i can tell that you are new
@4f52
@4f52 6 жыл бұрын
ITS CALLED LE MEME ARROWS XD BRUH
@4f52
@4f52 6 жыл бұрын
*BRUH*
@user-jx4lf1bj2s
@user-jx4lf1bj2s 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DARKERanimexxXxx greentexting is far more widespread in Russian communication and is not limited in imageboards only. That's what is called a cultural difference.
@zerakielvmark
@zerakielvmark 6 жыл бұрын
Stiff things do penetrate better, in my opinion.
@MisterDantastic
@MisterDantastic 6 жыл бұрын
Zerachiel van Mark I'm gonna shag, then try to shag again _immediately_ afterwards in order to get experimental data.
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, try penetrating with nunchaku.....meh. =/P
@FilmGuy7000
@FilmGuy7000 6 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@masterchief3007
@masterchief3007 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed! I find that gripping halfway up the length of the item helps to improve stiffness during penetration.
@nigelft
@nigelft 6 жыл бұрын
Freedom Man In addition, grabbing hold of said item to be penetrated helps, as one can also push against it to aid withdrawal, especially if one intends on multiple, deep, thrusts ... (Innuendo...? Whadda mean ...? I was thinking about using balistic gelatine during test cutting/thrusting ... any other inference drawn is your own grubby mind ... )
@peasant8246
@peasant8246 6 жыл бұрын
*"An Introduction to Erotics and Thrust Oriented Longswords"*
@mattiamamusa5599
@mattiamamusa5599 6 жыл бұрын
Zm_ranger *"Stiff things penetrate better"*
@CrazyChemistPL
@CrazyChemistPL 6 жыл бұрын
Here in Poland we have a saying that roughly translates as "When you are hungry, bread comes to mind".
@edi9892
@edi9892 6 жыл бұрын
Zm_ranger someone needs to make that hentai happen...
@matteussilvestre8583
@matteussilvestre8583 6 жыл бұрын
"Try thrust but hole"
@cerealkiller7143
@cerealkiller7143 6 жыл бұрын
CrazyChemistPL here in Greece we have a similar saying which says that a hungry man dreams of bread.
@kaidrescher6321
@kaidrescher6321 6 жыл бұрын
*sigh* so Skall leveled Dex after all...
@shadowstorm657
@shadowstorm657 6 жыл бұрын
Dex is the godstat of 5e
@kaidrescher6321
@kaidrescher6321 6 жыл бұрын
that's true but im doing a Str-based Swashbuckler and im having a blast with him
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 6 жыл бұрын
Dex is best!
@veng3r663
@veng3r663 6 жыл бұрын
And Ultima Online..!! :D
@HumanoidCableDreads
@HumanoidCableDreads 6 жыл бұрын
Sharp astora greatsword is the best sword.
@CelestialHunter-
@CelestialHunter- 6 жыл бұрын
you forgot to point down
@Mage-7734
@Mage-7734 6 жыл бұрын
And spin on a circle when doing it
@godzerkertf4764
@godzerkertf4764 5 жыл бұрын
pointeth d o w n w a r d
@Grimwalkerx
@Grimwalkerx 4 жыл бұрын
point down meta
@CommissarLORDBernn
@CommissarLORDBernn 6 жыл бұрын
To end thy opponent swiftly and deadly, repeatedly make use of R1 until the scoundrel is smitten. -Velka Fechtbuch
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 6 жыл бұрын
Smite? Smoten?
@biohazard724
@biohazard724 6 жыл бұрын
Grammatically smitten in this case is right because it's a past participle but sounds weird because of the other usage of the term.
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 6 жыл бұрын
The more I know...*rainbow*
@cip689
@cip689 6 жыл бұрын
yes, but why mash r1 when you can just throw a pommel? 🤔
@artyknighto6052
@artyknighto6052 6 жыл бұрын
R1R1R1R1R1R1 *dark souls credits*
@kuronoroux8864
@kuronoroux8864 6 жыл бұрын
Arty Knighto [Nameless Song Intensifies]
@darrianweathington1923
@darrianweathington1923 6 жыл бұрын
Arty Knighto dark souls end credits into bloodborne open credits
@Ryan-cf7bf
@Ryan-cf7bf 4 жыл бұрын
YOU DIED
@francismcalister7811
@francismcalister7811 6 жыл бұрын
The intro is too accurate
@bashkuch
@bashkuch 6 жыл бұрын
Just parry it bro
@asailioss
@asailioss 6 жыл бұрын
Disparage message? (Yes). No.
@osamasllamas6389
@osamasllamas6389 6 жыл бұрын
*u r ded
@shaegis
@shaegis 6 жыл бұрын
Thrust, but hole!
@tunakann7629
@tunakann7629 5 жыл бұрын
@@shaegis heyyyy! I get it XD
@ogrbell8297
@ogrbell8297 3 жыл бұрын
Git gud
@hardgay7537
@hardgay7537 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly the intro this topic deserved. Thanks Skall. Now I have to contact NASA to go retrieve the sides that intro launched into orbit.
@edi9892
@edi9892 6 жыл бұрын
Koyomi Araragi Stop harassing your sister and keep your dirty fingers from little girls!
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 6 жыл бұрын
edi He can't help it if she really wanted that toothbrush...
@jello788
@jello788 4 жыл бұрын
Hard nope
@mihailmilev9909
@mihailmilev9909 2 жыл бұрын
@@sterlingmuse5808 wtf is going on
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 2 жыл бұрын
@@mihailmilev9909 It's an anime reference, to what I think was the original commenter's name was back when they commented 4 years ago.
@VoidySan
@VoidySan 6 жыл бұрын
The *point* of the *estoc* Beautiful.
@jasperoliger
@jasperoliger 2 жыл бұрын
The estoc is by far my favorite medieval sword/ weapon. I love the idea of a long as rondel dagger with a real gaurd lol
@TrangleC
@TrangleC Жыл бұрын
I still struggle to see what the advantage over a pole weapon is. If you're not cutting with it anyways, then why shape it like a sword? A lance can do everything a estoc does, while being lighter and cheaper. Sure, a wooden shaft can perhaps (not as easy as people think) be chopped through, but that is why most late medieval pole weapons had metal bands running down the upper shaft, to prevent that.
@GothicSoldier9000
@GothicSoldier9000 Жыл бұрын
​​@@TrangleC lance is designed to be a shock weapon only ever used on horseback, and after the first use would often shatter. You can't reuse wood fragments the same way you could reforge a broken sword. Skallagrim literally explained the estoc's niche, which is exploiting the gaps in plate armor on foot. It can still do solid blunt damage from a swing as well. As a sword, it will be much easier to handle than any large polearm, much less a lance.
@TrangleC
@TrangleC Жыл бұрын
@@GothicSoldier9000 I'm not a native English speaker, so I don't know for sure whether the definition of "lance" is the same as it is in my language ("Lanze" in German), but in German the difference between a lance and a spear is that the spear is a wooden pole with a metal tip, while a lance is made of all metal or mostly metal, or a wooden pole encased in metal. So the shattering isn't really the issue, at least not if the English definition of lance is similar to the German one, which it might not be, but I assume it is, because otherwise you would have 3 different names for the same thing: spear, pike and lance. That sword-like character of the estoc is what I don't get, or better said, I get it if you are fighting on foot and want to parry sword blows with it, but you aren't really doing that on horseback.
@madcat789
@madcat789 6 жыл бұрын
Thrust me Skaddy!
@prestonnormile9996
@prestonnormile9996 6 жыл бұрын
madcat789 I hate your clever pun
@shadowstorm657
@shadowstorm657 6 жыл бұрын
Please no..But also, oh yes Skaddy. For the love of god don't let this start becoming a thing. I write this as I am slightly intoxicated. If drunk me does not approve, you should not either.
@ostravessos2252
@ostravessos2252 6 жыл бұрын
No, just no, stop
@divinexve4135
@divinexve4135 6 жыл бұрын
"Your heart will explode..."
@EzioIlMentore
@EzioIlMentore 6 жыл бұрын
Go home C'thun, you're drunk.
@MrSamulai
@MrSamulai 6 жыл бұрын
So rapiers could be used for slashing attacks but estocs can't? Dark Souls movesets going strong since 2011.
@albaker9443
@albaker9443 2 жыл бұрын
u dont wanna be slashed by a rapier
@MrSamulai
@MrSamulai 2 жыл бұрын
@@albaker9443 ?
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrSamulai In DS Estoc has slashing attacks in its moveset, while rapiers usually only thrust :D
@MrSamulai
@MrSamulai 2 жыл бұрын
​@ Yes?
@SIGNOR-G
@SIGNOR-G Жыл бұрын
Dark Souls and Elden Ring confused the 2. But since they are japanese games ill forgive them...for now...
@crowleytophat9862
@crowleytophat9862 6 жыл бұрын
Random Dark souls joke? Yes please
@ixflqr
@ixflqr 6 жыл бұрын
Touka Lockheart funny thing is I've been playing dark souls for years and I don't recognize that nickname. 🤔
@crowleytophat9862
@crowleytophat9862 6 жыл бұрын
I was refering to the joke at the begining
@davids7646
@davids7646 6 жыл бұрын
ixflqr probably because you didnt watched souls youtuber creating meta memes.
@kamikage9420
@kamikage9420 6 жыл бұрын
Held in the left hand, Crystal Mage and regular Rapiers and most curved swords can be used to parry by pressing L2. The rapiers have the same animation of the parrying dagger, but curved swords have a fancy flip parry.
@ArkBlanc
@ArkBlanc 6 жыл бұрын
*Stiff things penetrate better*
@tedarcher9120
@tedarcher9120 6 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought
@nemak89
@nemak89 6 жыл бұрын
That's what she said
@ArkBlanc
@ArkBlanc 6 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@schoolguy2970
@schoolguy2970 6 жыл бұрын
Why do you tag as entertainment instead of education? I always feel like you are teaching us more than entertaining us
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 6 жыл бұрын
That's probably true, but Skall makes a particular point of not claiming to be an expert and that what he says is his opinion only, also that some of the testing he does is not as realistic as he or others might like.
@rickc2102
@rickc2102 6 жыл бұрын
They need an edutainment tag.
@RevRaptor898
@RevRaptor898 6 жыл бұрын
Education video's are far more likely to be demonetized due to content. That tag is really not worth the hassle.
@gadyariv2456
@gadyariv2456 6 жыл бұрын
videos tagged as Educational are demonized more quickly and often than those tagged as Entertainment
@runakovacs4759
@runakovacs4759 6 жыл бұрын
This doesn't make sense one bit. OTOH; youtube doesn't make sense one bit.
@richardsobieski2229
@richardsobieski2229 6 жыл бұрын
"stiff things penetrate better"-Skal 01/02/18
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 Жыл бұрын
The weird "Polish estoc" looks like something I've seen in relation to hussars - it was a one-handed version used from a saddle - a backup weapon allowing the hussars to maintain their reach after using up the lance.
@dm_9428
@dm_9428 Жыл бұрын
you mean "koncerz"
@marcusc9931
@marcusc9931 Жыл бұрын
@@dm_9428 yes and no. names are horribly inconsistent when it comes to blades.
@PetroleumSnoMan
@PetroleumSnoMan 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this intro to the Estoc! Having never even seen one in person, this is my (theoretically) favorite sword! I always thought this would be perfect in movies since mostly everyone only knows how to slash either super fast or super hard. I never know what to write here. Uh, kisses?
@ZemplinTemplar
@ZemplinTemplar 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid on medieval estocs, Skall. :-) To this day, I don't understand why people think every thinner historical blade had to be used for bypassing armour. The "rapier = anti-armour" misconception annoys me as well.
@gilly508
@gilly508 6 жыл бұрын
That polish "estoc" is actually essentially an iron lance with a sword grip called a koncerz. They were EXTREMELY long (over 50 inches), and only served as a thrusting weapon on horseback. Not really all that similar to the use of the estoc or tuck in western Europe.
@balin1920
@balin1920 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. It was basically a disposable weapon/1 time use. It was different from a Estoc as it was used in a single hand not double handed/half sword ingredients like the estoc.
@edgarvasconcelos5290
@edgarvasconcelos5290 6 жыл бұрын
"stiff things penetrate better" skall 2018
@CWojcieszak
@CWojcieszak 6 жыл бұрын
R1 master race
@austin9568AuraMasterDX
@austin9568AuraMasterDX 6 жыл бұрын
What a coincidental encounter
@Darknight4434
@Darknight4434 6 жыл бұрын
R1 at a incredible speed
@andriel2519
@andriel2519 6 жыл бұрын
Giant dad master race
@praisethesun69
@praisethesun69 6 жыл бұрын
what rings u got bitch
@CWojcieszak
@CWojcieszak 6 жыл бұрын
None, I have cool earrings though.
@HiopX
@HiopX 6 жыл бұрын
I find your lack of innuendos disturbing
@TiagoMorbusSa
@TiagoMorbusSa 6 жыл бұрын
It hurts my brain, yeah.
@davidadams7602
@davidadams7602 6 жыл бұрын
what are you stupid? he made an innuendo about stiff swords penetrating better...
@TiagoMorbusSa
@TiagoMorbusSa 6 жыл бұрын
David, it's all in your head.
@daanwilmer
@daanwilmer 6 жыл бұрын
Go watch Scholagladiatoria, that should make up for it. Also: 6:11.
@phalcon23
@phalcon23 6 жыл бұрын
"stiff things penetrate better... who would have thought" -Skall... sounds innuendoish to me
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the use of Dark Souls meems Mr Skall.
@dagomeiudex6583
@dagomeiudex6583 6 жыл бұрын
Meems? Did you mean meymeys?
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815 6 жыл бұрын
Dagome Iudex I think i misspelled myeeyms
@Kia044
@Kia044 6 жыл бұрын
“Getting hit in the head with the steel bar is not a pleasant experience” - added to the golden fund of quotes
@TrangleC
@TrangleC Жыл бұрын
I heard Polish Hussars carried a saber and a estoc as their standard "loadout". A interesting combination in my eyes, because I don't know any other examples of soldiers carrying 2 different, specialized kinds of swords around.
@merendell
@merendell 6 жыл бұрын
So basically the estoc just isn't going to cut it but your opponent will still get the point. had to be done. No regrets.
@damianoferrario4330
@damianoferrario4330 4 жыл бұрын
Well played, sir. Well played.
@ethankapolis
@ethankapolis 6 жыл бұрын
The boar sword was super cool/interesting. I'd love to hear more about 'special use' weapons, or weapons for hunting in general.
@wellguesswhatIthink
@wellguesswhatIthink 6 жыл бұрын
Rapiers can cut but estocs can't? Oddly they reversed that in Dark Souls
@dianabarnett6886
@dianabarnett6886 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they got that totally backwards. A rapier isn't the best cutter, but it can cut. A proper estoc blade is less of a blade and more of a long, metal spike.
@Corvid_Crew
@Corvid_Crew 6 жыл бұрын
I think of it as a long Rondel Dagger with a proper hilt, really.
@darrianweathington1923
@darrianweathington1923 6 жыл бұрын
wellguesswhatIthink video games are bullshaight...who would've thunk it?
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 6 жыл бұрын
Darrian Weathington Dark Souls is surprisingly less bullshit than most, though. Still a lot of dung pie, but WAY less than other series.
@NoahWeisbrod
@NoahWeisbrod 6 жыл бұрын
A lot of people, when you say rapier, think of later style swords: smallswords or Spanish rapiers.
@AnUtterSimpleton
@AnUtterSimpleton 6 жыл бұрын
You may be drawn to those slender blades but I've always been a sucker for a thicc boi.
@Kobalt758
@Kobalt758 6 жыл бұрын
That was the best intro ever
@KaiserAfini
@KaiserAfini 6 жыл бұрын
The secret of steel has always carried with it a mystery. You must learn its riddle, Skallnan. You must learn its discipline. For no one - no one in this world can you trust. Not men, not women, not beasts, not pommels. _points to Estoc_ This you can thrust
@robertpatter5509
@robertpatter5509 Жыл бұрын
"Swords can cut , but this can penetrate the soul. This can thrust. And thrust you can trust. And thrust you must" -
@seraaron
@seraaron 2 жыл бұрын
The guy that invented the boar sword must have felt so proud, only to realize that he'd basically just reinvented the boar spear 😂
@amitabhakusari2304
@amitabhakusari2304 6 жыл бұрын
Need more of these educational videos for those not really knowledgeable about Medieval warfare. I find yours especially easy to understand and entertaining than say the ones people keep referring to in the comments.
@skipmage
@skipmage 6 жыл бұрын
"All swords weigh 3.5Lbs" I was doing a lot of looking into Rapier Weights, and I had been given a museum's catalogue of weapons. It was interesting in that even a 16th century claymore was listed as 3.5 pounds. it lead to the above quote being used quiet a bit at the gaming table.
@seskal8595
@seskal8595 6 жыл бұрын
*R1 intensifies*
@Elipus22
@Elipus22 6 жыл бұрын
Infinity *click*
@thegoodkidboy7726
@thegoodkidboy7726 6 жыл бұрын
upvote! Enjoy your gold!
@mj2carlsbad
@mj2carlsbad 3 жыл бұрын
I dont get why yall say thank you for likes
@michaeledmunds7266
@michaeledmunds7266 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite types of weapon.
@secutorprimus
@secutorprimus 6 жыл бұрын
I've been actually really wondering about estocs for the past couple days. This video was perfectly timed.
@wojciechkowalski8061
@wojciechkowalski8061 6 жыл бұрын
I raise you this: Polish Koncerz! An estoc having usually between 1,3 to 1,6 meter long blade (sometimes even 1,8), used by Polish cavalry when their lances shatter during the charge. And it was actually used against Cossaks, Crimean Tatars, Russians and Ottomans, who were using chainmail sometimes even in the early years of XVIII century. Try fencing with this thing ;)
@michapuchalski4869
@michapuchalski4869 6 жыл бұрын
Also, they were mostly one-handed, with saber crossguard.
@bashkuch
@bashkuch 6 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me if they were used with shields ;w;
@wojciechkowalski8061
@wojciechkowalski8061 6 жыл бұрын
Bashkuch :3 I don't think so, but maybe? If they were, it was propably by either Pancerni (heavy cavalry, but not as elite as Winged Hussars), or Pospolite Ruszenie (mobilized nobility armed with whatever they had), though both units prefered sabers. Sorry to shatter your dreams ;) Although I plan to buy a copy of a koncerz just to see how could it be used on foot ;) I could imagine more than a few people trying to half-sword it, turning it basically into a short steel spear ;)
@RedLikeRosie
@RedLikeRosie 6 жыл бұрын
But why?
@wojciechkowalski8061
@wojciechkowalski8061 6 жыл бұрын
Ross Dickson Propably to keep reach advantage, especially when fighting infantry. Also, it was primarily used by Winged Hussars. Why it is important? Lances of Polish Hussars were designed to shatter on impact, to deliver as much of force as possible without redirecting part of it into the hussar (lances were also only part of their equipment provided by King), but it left them at a disadvantage afterwards, until they regrouped and were rearmed. Koncerz allowed them to deal with this disadvantage, but (as you may have figured out) it was always a niche weapon. Most hussars, especially the poorer ones, still prefered to use just straight or curved sabers instead.
@lackusshock
@lackusshock 5 жыл бұрын
So enter Mordhau. And you can wield the Estoc in a Murder-Stroke grip.
@calebhehl3404
@calebhehl3404 4 жыл бұрын
And couch it on horseback
@primalwolfe4711
@primalwolfe4711 4 жыл бұрын
I like a combo of thrust and cuts.
@gargarbad6047
@gargarbad6047 6 жыл бұрын
I was freaking waiting for this Estocs are very rarely discussed anywhere, time to watch
@AMoodyB3ar
@AMoodyB3ar 6 жыл бұрын
technically, if you put an acute blade on one of those giant anti-castle battering rams, you could pierce plate armor directly.
@sterlingmuse5808
@sterlingmuse5808 6 жыл бұрын
Good luck moving one of those things faster than someone with two legs. They would have to move less than two feet left or right and render a strike useless, and that's assuming they were unwilling to turn
@AMoodyB3ar
@AMoodyB3ar 6 жыл бұрын
you know, the Romans have just the thing for your issue there.
@jello788
@jello788 4 жыл бұрын
@@AMoodyB3ar ?
@plakjesalami777
@plakjesalami777 6 жыл бұрын
gives me Conniptions...
@jacksutter1158
@jacksutter1158 6 жыл бұрын
Good overview on the Estoc. One thing that's worth pointing out though is that a lot of surviving Estocs actually have deeply hollow ground triangular cross-sections very much like that of a smallsword. In fact, I think close to 50% or more of the original Estocs I've seen are actually made this way.
@ValseInstrumentalist
@ValseInstrumentalist 4 жыл бұрын
That XVIIIb is so dang beautiful, I can't stop looking at it.
@GCurl
@GCurl 6 жыл бұрын
"R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 Arwan Arwan Arwan Arwan" Arwan the legendary warrior
@Bastardson_
@Bastardson_ 4 жыл бұрын
I can't think of why anybody would have intentionally used a sword with no edge. Did this type of weapon have any advantage over, say, a small spear or dedicated thrusting polearm?
@vincentmelgoza1025
@vincentmelgoza1025 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching this channel for a long, long time and have never been able to subscribe but today, I will.
@jaroslawwalczak2855
@jaroslawwalczak2855 6 жыл бұрын
The "Polish estoc" from the book is called "koncerz". It was used by heavy (winged) cavalry as thrusting weapon from horse against infantry. Koncerz was a one hand weapon.
@fontunetheteller410
@fontunetheteller410 6 жыл бұрын
BUT DOES IT GRANT POISE?
@whale3473
@whale3473 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls 3 actually has wrong movesets for their thrusting swords. The generic R2 for a thrusting sword like the rapiers is a bigger thrust, whereas the estoc is a slash. Since estocs don't have an edge it's safe to assume the developers mixed them up. It's funny since the slashing R2 was generally considered better, due to it's ability to combo, further making bestoc the one and true thrusting sword of the game.
@VirusesX01
@VirusesX01 6 жыл бұрын
Fattybot also funny that Ricard used a rapier, an everyday-folk weapon, and not something noble-like
@reapy_s0ul26
@reapy_s0ul26 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure all of the souls games have a slash on Estoc r2, Fromsoft seems to think that the Estoc is a dual slash/thrust weapon.
@xXbrokenvoidXx
@xXbrokenvoidXx 6 жыл бұрын
It was a Slash/Thrust type weapon in DS1 as well.
@mikkaelmansbridge5154
@mikkaelmansbridge5154 6 жыл бұрын
VirusesX01 Well, the rapier was fire imbued, so it was probably pretty noble by that regard.
@kendrickwood7174
@kendrickwood7174 6 жыл бұрын
It's been a while since I've read swords and swordsmen, but if I remember correctly Loades describes a tuck bladed rapier as having a bit of flare near the tip that allows for slightly better cutting ability.
@hellios5576
@hellios5576 6 жыл бұрын
I play dark souls with keyboard and mouse Fight me
@etiennemiemczyk7081
@etiennemiemczyk7081 6 жыл бұрын
I play with onscreen keybord. Because I only have a mouse.
@artyknighto6052
@artyknighto6052 6 жыл бұрын
Hellios55 well in that case I’ll win lol
@artyknighto6052
@artyknighto6052 6 жыл бұрын
Dance mat or nothing That’s how you really play souls
@matheusmoreira9951
@matheusmoreira9951 6 жыл бұрын
Now that's some next level masochism
@mrrdirty6198
@mrrdirty6198 6 жыл бұрын
Props to you if you're good with it. And I don't mean good in the condescending way, I mean if you can pull that off, more power to you.
@aurourus6894
@aurourus6894 6 жыл бұрын
Don't level dex casual.
@josh4601
@josh4601 6 жыл бұрын
wut r u, casul?
@aurourus6894
@aurourus6894 6 жыл бұрын
wat rinsg you got bithc
@falsebeliever8079
@falsebeliever8079 6 жыл бұрын
We parry kings level Dex. If you can't handle it, get gud.
@fungus2116
@fungus2116 6 жыл бұрын
You sound like a filthy uchi peasant
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815
@undercoverknucklesagentwhi6815 6 жыл бұрын
Ulf Ravndal Let us watch as these plebs attempt to smite us with their strength builds whilst we parry away every single hit.
@joshuabarger8422
@joshuabarger8422 6 жыл бұрын
Thats my favorite Longsword type! Oakshotte 18b, such a lovely elegant design.
@fabianmiron2782
@fabianmiron2782 6 жыл бұрын
The beginning was awesome !
@wardenofashfeld4952
@wardenofashfeld4952 6 жыл бұрын
Yo Skall remember a game called For Honor?you made a review on it. Well the hero Warden is getting an execution called End him rightly or something like that, next week on Thursday
@silverhand9965
@silverhand9965 6 жыл бұрын
I clicked on this video to make an R1 comment I have been bested
@Rain-me8fd
@Rain-me8fd 6 жыл бұрын
Bestoc-ed
@hrlqnn_
@hrlqnn_ Жыл бұрын
"Stiff things penetrate better, who would have thought" Wise words sir, wise words
@Zutro1
@Zutro1 6 жыл бұрын
very instructive man - nice job... Grettings from Czech Republic
@iraqigamer2407
@iraqigamer2407 6 жыл бұрын
R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 Bestoc is for casuls, pommel is for pros. Edit: It's SL1009? I don't think you can reach that SL in Dark Souls. ;)
@iraqigamer2407
@iraqigamer2407 6 жыл бұрын
. Oh yeah. I think it's because I leveled Dex...
@malango255
@malango255 6 жыл бұрын
*''stiff things penetrate better''*
@gavin5410
@gavin5410 6 жыл бұрын
I find the guard near the point so interesting. It looks so bazaar but it seems very practical for stopping a charging boar
@seannahmcauliffe9766
@seannahmcauliffe9766 2 жыл бұрын
Always nice to learn from you . ⚔️🤺
@kike5186
@kike5186 6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video comparing maces with flails with their pros and cons?
@Debilinside
@Debilinside 6 жыл бұрын
Flails didnt really exist. They are not true battlefield weapons because they are too dangerous to use.
@kike5186
@kike5186 6 жыл бұрын
Debilinside *Theyre badass tho*
@goodoldaley6375
@goodoldaley6375 6 жыл бұрын
I think Germany did deploy troops armed with the Footman Flail "Big wooden 2 handed flail" in large enough numbers that it was noteworthy, but very small numbers still. As for your traditional flail, I don't recall any military force deploying troops using them in vast amounts. However, I wouldn't say they were never used on the battlefield. Their effectiveness might not have been impressive enough to be written down. I'm sure some warriors used them, but certainly not your common militia or conscript. They just take so much time to master.
@shorelockhomes943
@shorelockhomes943 6 жыл бұрын
I agree it's needed and wanted for his video collection on his utube channel.
@maun4rah
@maun4rah 6 жыл бұрын
wow after watching the video i want the devs of dark souls to change the horizontal attacks to blunt now that would be nice
@jrs4516
@jrs4516 6 жыл бұрын
that would be great. i'm a life long estoc user and always had to carry an hammer to swap to for skeletons and other thrust resistant enemies. although in DS3 this seemed less of an issue.
@Cyotis
@Cyotis 6 жыл бұрын
That is a nice looking long sword you got there, I agree with the slender appeal.
@procrastinatinggamer
@procrastinatinggamer 6 жыл бұрын
First place I really saw the estoc used was actually in Pillars of Eternity where it filled the role of “two-handed weapon for piercing damage”. I didn’t know how an estoc differed from other two-handed swords before that but PoE made me realise what it was for. Which may sound odd, but Obsidian did actually put a lot of thought into the three physical damage types - piercing, bludgeoning, and slashing - and how well certain armours would protect against each and which ones particular weapons tended towards (ie; breastplates got a bonus against piercing damage to reflect how the curvature would help deflect certain blows while mail armour would get a bonus against slashing damage but had a serious *penalty* against bludgeoning damage). Mind you; it sure how realistic it is for scale armour to be more vulnerable to piercing than the other types, but if it’s not realistic then I’m gonna assume that was just a case of “well we need scale to be weak against something”.
@geneharper7535
@geneharper7535 11 ай бұрын
Its more the "two handed armor penetration" weapon than just two-handed piercing.
@raptorjesues1445
@raptorjesues1445 6 жыл бұрын
The true question is: can you unscrew the pommel of an estoc?
@cerealkiller7143
@cerealkiller7143 6 жыл бұрын
Looking for such a comment.
@ImMora1
@ImMora1 6 жыл бұрын
Surprised that there is almost no pommel jokes in this comment section. Could it be that pommel jokes are dying off?
@cip689
@cip689 6 жыл бұрын
THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
@cerealkiller7143
@cerealkiller7143 6 жыл бұрын
1st of all, Skal don't try to make us stop spamming pommels thus ending the coment section rightly. Secondly, the meme has survived 500 years, why should it die off now?
@psych0185
@psych0185 6 жыл бұрын
You sure know how to thrust with your stiff and rigid sword.
@candle6183
@candle6183 Жыл бұрын
Probably already said but the rapier was by no means only for civilian defense and was used massively in large scale combat. Just thought I would clarify on its uses
@ItalianAvalanche
@ItalianAvalanche 6 жыл бұрын
In terms of edge angle: less acute edge angles are worse at cutting not because there is more resistance but because more surface area of the edge contacts the target and this larger surface area reduces the localized contact pressure. It's all about pressure unless sawing motion is happening.
@methyllithium323
@methyllithium323 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer curved swords, they've got pretty nice attack animation and do good dual wielding
@NoxMortem
@NoxMortem 6 жыл бұрын
Moveswap...... then Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 Running-R1 :D Great Chest Ahead!
@zeri3889
@zeri3889 6 жыл бұрын
6 seconds into the video and you already won my like. Skall you are the best
@LordOfNothingreally
@LordOfNothingreally 6 жыл бұрын
I took your advice to stay calm and keep thrusting...My girlfriend wanted to extend her gratitude
@therez2058
@therez2058 6 жыл бұрын
I meet your r1 spam with an l2 and a chaos Dagger
@Marines_Memelevolent
@Marines_Memelevolent 6 жыл бұрын
So.....Stabby McStabSword?
@anthonycoffey4699
@anthonycoffey4699 6 жыл бұрын
Finally got my Darksword Danish longsword, for a 4ft needle it cuts really well.
@KhaosDCrab
@KhaosDCrab 3 жыл бұрын
The dark souls intro is all I needed, thank you skall
@Ilyas-ty6cy
@Ilyas-ty6cy 6 жыл бұрын
I see longsword= Instant like!!
@Kuro3k
@Kuro3k 6 жыл бұрын
R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1
@king0vitrial
@king0vitrial 6 жыл бұрын
The estoc has been my favorite sword long before dark souls came out. I love this sword, I've been waiting for this vid for so long.
@MrOdrzut
@MrOdrzut 5 жыл бұрын
Polish estoc was called "koncerz", it was used by hussars as one of the side-arms after the lance was broken.
@Toutong_
@Toutong_ 6 жыл бұрын
I'm french, did not know that estoc is a French word, and definitely did not know it meant thrusting for me it was just the name of the weapon o:
@maximilianiholyromanempero6085
@maximilianiholyromanempero6085 6 жыл бұрын
Hole but thrust.
@cairohaiyerm5790
@cairohaiyerm5790 6 жыл бұрын
L 2D3cl that is a dark souls message if I ever read one
@hisholiness4537
@hisholiness4537 6 жыл бұрын
Thrust But hole
@BlueMoonFuzz
@BlueMoonFuzz 6 жыл бұрын
That... is a beautiful sword.
@goukagrimm8773
@goukagrimm8773 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think you would be able to talk about the Zweihander? I've looked into it and has a light weight but it extremely long so I just wanted to know how practical it was.
@adolfogoicoechea4971
@adolfogoicoechea4971 6 жыл бұрын
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