I had been using traditional Western saws with no issues for years. However, i developed rheumatoid arthritis in right hand and holding and using the push saws was starting to be difficult. I tried a ryoba to start with for ripping. Due to the different cutting (pull) and grip and less weight compared to a western saw, I can now continue my woodwork with very little pain and the improved grip gives me very accurate cuts. I now have a set of the 4 most useful Japanese saws. Highly recommended for those who may be in a similar position.
@SimopsAus7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining it so well!
@brianm.94516 жыл бұрын
I just finished installing shiplap where I did the entire thing using my dozuki and kataba. Being able to work with little to no noise and producing less dust is a big deal. I love the quietness of using a handsaw and because no two cuts were the same I was able to scribe and cut without having to setup a miter saw each time.
@MatthewHarrold5 жыл бұрын
I've started to wear out (bugger up) my Ryoba saw. Initially I hated the rip teeth as I wasn't trying long rip cuts. Recently I built a Tassie oak artist easel, 15 bird houses, and a queen size bed weighing 180kg all using the Ryoba, some chisels, and an f-ton of elbow grease. I've warped the cross-cut blade tip, tooth number 6, and you can see some discolouration in two other places where I didn't do great things. That's four newbie mistakes over around 3 years of woodworking causing minimal functional damage. It is still razor sharp and effective.
@karllove576 жыл бұрын
Very good explaining. It's obvious by the way you handle them that you love good craftsmansship.
@rubencitostyle3 жыл бұрын
I got these three and also the flush cutting one and I love them - very often I work after dinner and it's lovely to do it without the noise of power tools, besides they give you so much precision - they are joy to work with - thanks for the video!!!!
@zacdredge38593 жыл бұрын
Thanks for confirming they're Gyokucho; I've also been considering Gikoh/Kakuri but I've heard respected craftsman vouch for Gyokucho saws. For tough cuts you can start the kerf with just the closest end of the blade as these teeth are made closer together for this purpose. The single blade, spineless saw is 'Kataba', not "Kabata", just FYI.
@timothydaniels5042 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. It’s so true about saving time with hand tools. I use a small router for long grooves but the set up time is crazy, not to mention the noise and dust. Hand tools are a pleasure to use.
@timbeconaus2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Timothy. We are glad you enjoyed it!
@MrFrancogi6 жыл бұрын
very clear and nice tutorial
@jamesking92626 ай бұрын
Good stuff, thx.
@adviertehoy7775 жыл бұрын
Nice way to explain..thanks.
@BloodyClash5 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Dozuki and a Ryoba....and i looooove them
@nonparticipant46715 жыл бұрын
Excellent video.
@petergannon49167 жыл бұрын
Really good explanation. Like the idea of cutting the noise. Probably too late to fix my tinitus.
@SirNoviTheChauvi5 жыл бұрын
Great Video, thanks for the effort!
@timbeconaus5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Its our pleasure. we hope you have subscribed because there is plenty more here! 👍
@user-cf6tp9ei8c2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Kabata is actually Kataba(片刃)which means one side blade. Ryoba(両刃)is both sides blade.
@patrickholcomb96286 жыл бұрын
excellent video....even better name!
@davidclark90866 жыл бұрын
I would like to add is that they are relatively simple to break. This occurs when the user pushes the blade forward but not exactly at the same angles as the saw cut. I bought a kataba specifically for hard wood and broke it in the first 5 minutes. A wedge or shim could have helped but the wood was very hard and the cut just started. Just a simple warning to be careful and don't rush the cut.
@timbeconaus6 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. Much appreciated. However, remind us never to arm wrestle with you! :-)
@tufankilinc6366 жыл бұрын
David, you're spot on. I bought my first Japanese pull saw 3 days ago. It was very awkward at first but when you hit the groove, no pun intended, it's a great cut. Thanks for your video and you just received another subscriber.
@meealan2 жыл бұрын
thanks, a great intro to japanese saws
@gig7775 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@ChrisSierra5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Ty!
@timbeconaus5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Very much appreciated.
@mrjohnson97044 жыл бұрын
Best Review I've Seen :)
@timbeconaus4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We are glad you enjoyed our video! There are literally hundreds more on this channel so please feel free to enjoy them too. There are many more to come to subscribe too!
@rla10004 жыл бұрын
Thanks, good explanation, just what I wanted to know. Any info on the clamps? Brand/type? They look like some quick clamp/quick release hold-downs.
@landesnorm5 жыл бұрын
Nice video. How about mentioning that camellia oil (tsubaki oil) is good to put on the saws to prevent them from rusting?
@zacdredge38593 жыл бұрын
That's the traditional oil used in Japan, yes, but any oil or wax you can find will work fine.
@danbytp5 жыл бұрын
Finally,someone who knows what he's talking about and makes sense. And I learned more in 10 minutes than 10 hours from everyone else! Great job,Holcombe San!
@timbeconaus5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim. We are glad that HolcombeSan was able to help. Patrick is an excellent teacher and presenter and we are proud to have him feature in so many of our videos. Be sure to check out his The Router Bits playlist too! So...we hope you have subscribed. There is more to come!
@danbytp3 жыл бұрын
@@timbeconaus Good to hear, keep up the great job!!
@lukmanaris13983 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. The audio quality is amazing. What sort of microphone do you use, if I may know?
@timbeconaus3 жыл бұрын
We use rode wireless mics
@AteuCu5 жыл бұрын
The Samurai Carpenter opening?
@chengliu8725 жыл бұрын
The dozuki reminds me of a giant straight razor.
@lax91154 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for clarifying all the points, now I just need my credit card.....
@chengliu8725 жыл бұрын
Does the dozuki make straight cuts, rip cuts or both?
@thatguyonyoutube8075 жыл бұрын
Cheng Liu there are dozuki saws with both rip and cross cut teeth, but generally they’re used for cross cutting
@211teitake6 жыл бұрын
@4:03 You said "Kabata." It's Kataba (Kata=single side, ba=blade). 片刃
@SansP3ur6 жыл бұрын
Ah, so is "Katana" :: Kata = single sided & Na = sword ??
@yannickduchene3055 жыл бұрын
So ryo = double ?
@yoruhana1905 жыл бұрын
@@yannickduchene305 yes
@3uphoria7775 жыл бұрын
CyberGolem Yes. That's the origin of the word "Katana". "Na" is ancient word of blade but present day, it's obsolete word.
@kimchee941126 жыл бұрын
What's a good feather file to sharpen those saws?
@timbeconaus6 жыл бұрын
The teeth are impulse hardened which make them extremely sharp and long-lasting, but also make them brittle and unable to be resharpened. The blades are easily removed and replacement blades are available when they start getting blunt.
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
blade can change new, wery cheap buy and change new blade, but no need change manytime have wery strong and longlive sharp saw.
@syphiliticpangloss Жыл бұрын
How to stop it from folding?
@wermisstmisstmist6 жыл бұрын
Seems your product links don’t work anymore
@timbeconaus6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know! Problem now corrected! :-)
@daiburt18334 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough I make my own and carpenters are always asking me to make them one . All I do is take the handle off a jack saw and turn it around and make a handle from a piece of roofing batten
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
what need use plywood ? rip cut or crosscut ?
@thatguyonyoutube8075 жыл бұрын
Matti Virta crosscut, however if you have the money or work with a lot of plywood there’s actually a Japanese saw made specifically for plywood, since plywood is especially hard on blades due to the glue and anything that’s stuck in between the layers.
@David-qm8xm5 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyonyoutube807 link?
@MikkosFree6 жыл бұрын
Ok. I like the way you explain things. I like the simple editing. I like the video quality. But something is really bothering me about your background. I don't know if it's your focus, or a cgi background. But it's quite distracting.
@timbeconaus6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mikhail, Its just the focus from the camera on the foreground that's blurring the background out. We are using minimal depth of field - a technique which gives us good clarity in the front but deliberately blurs the background.
@kaylummitsch50305 жыл бұрын
#Triple-Like! Greetings from Switzerland, Kay
@h3Xh3Xh3X4 жыл бұрын
What does rip cut and cross cut mean?
@keirfarnum68114 жыл бұрын
Rip cuts are when you cut with the long grains/fibers of the wood while cross cuts are across the wood grains/fibers. Usually a piece of wood is cut and processed so the grains/fibers are oriented parallel to the length of the board while crosscutting is perpendicular to the wood fibers. Hope that helps.
@leongt19544 жыл бұрын
God if I started sawing in the longeroom my wife would kill me
@ManicallyMellow Жыл бұрын
Have my housemates been speaking to you?
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive4 жыл бұрын
Kataba* 💪
@2204thientai6 жыл бұрын
not just 4x2, i cut a 4x4 and 6x6 easy
@Kevin_geekgineering Жыл бұрын
they good quality one, they are not even cheaper than a jigsaw
@squarelevelplumb4 жыл бұрын
Ree Oba. The Y is ee like Tokyo.. Like the tools Reeobi(Ryobi)
@timbeconaus4 жыл бұрын
Thanks SL&P! Very much appreciated. We hope you enjoyed our video.
@mmercier09216 жыл бұрын
Why do some saws draw the essence of the wood to the body, while others push this away..?
@michazeegers6 жыл бұрын
"Kabata" is actually "Kataba"
@davidiwata70636 жыл бұрын
"Kata" = one side "Ba" = teeth
@terryb33886 жыл бұрын
Japan Woodworker has it as KATAHA ... who knows?
@teflongoon3 жыл бұрын
@@terryb3388 Um, every Japanese saw maker. And everyone who can read Japanese. It's not a "Who knows?" situation. There is NO mystery to it at all. 🤣
@terryb33886 жыл бұрын
YOU CAN PULL A TRAIN BUT YOU CAN'T PUSH A TRAIN
@chengliu8725 жыл бұрын
You can't push a train? Tell that to most American commuter railroads.
@danbytp5 жыл бұрын
Helper engines in the middle push and pull.Also go to a busy yard and see trains pushed and pulled.
@terryb33883 жыл бұрын
@@chengliu872 a single human being can and has "PULLED" a train, but never the opposite.
@terryb33883 жыл бұрын
@@chengliu872 no one has poetry anymore ... this is in reference to the beauty of sawing on the pull and not the push ... don't overthink it.
@terryb33883 жыл бұрын
@@danbytp this is in reference to the beauty of sawing on the pull and not the push ... don't overthink it. A single human being has and can "pull" a train, but not the opposite.
@danbytp5 жыл бұрын
How do you get a great cut? Same way you get to Carnegie Hal...practice,practice,practice!
@lancebaker13745 жыл бұрын
Hall
@MrFrancogi6 жыл бұрын
Very nice and clear, but... kataba, not kabata :-)
@batmo276925 күн бұрын
A four by two?
@timbeconaus24 күн бұрын
Otherwise known as a 'two by four', or a 'ninety by forty-five' 🤣
@batmo27695 күн бұрын
@@timbeconaus you guys go W x H x L?
@leongt19545 жыл бұрын
Use In the loundgroom my wife would use the saws on me
@lancebaker13745 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that most Japanese saws produce a narrower kerf than western saws.
@lancebaker13745 жыл бұрын
I once owned a Japanese saw, sorry, I don't recall which one, but my research showed that I should NEVER push it, only pull it through the cut. Any comments?
@paulmazurek36084 жыл бұрын
Hold the saw on about a 15 degree angle it will cut straighter , you will feel it when it's the correct angle
@robohippy2 жыл бұрын
Well, it seems like the modern version of these saws, they expect you to toss the old blade rather than just sharpen it and go back to work. Why? Wasteful to toss the old blades...
@RandleMcMurphey2 жыл бұрын
....hand made is hand made....by hand tools only!....Mass produced is made for profit with no love or feeling!.. :)
@edwinghysebrechts9377 Жыл бұрын
Kataba, not kabata
@timbeconaus Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@tya046 жыл бұрын
Why replace the saw blade when it gets dull? With how broad the blades are, it looks like they can take a hundred re-sharpenings. There's a world of difference between a sharp saw and one that isn't dull enough to replace yet and files are cheap.
@andrewdunn96056 жыл бұрын
tya04 the blades are too thin to be resharpened. There are Craftsmen in Japan who do it but it is very difficult and expensive.
@gizmo73966 жыл бұрын
tya04 Most Japanese Saws have hardened teeth. They can be sent to Japan for resharpening, but the blades are designed to be replaceable
@mattivirta5 жыл бұрын
saw blade can change, wery cheap buy new blade and change new, i want see men who sharpeninin 0,6mm thin saw whit file haha, lot work ,easy change new blade and super cheap.hardened blade not need change manytime all your life about maybe onetime, but old shit bush saw need sharpen ewery week.
@chewningwitmer58063 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you will find amazing woodworking plans on woodprix plans.
@weedeater646 жыл бұрын
Throw away garbage saws are throw away garbage.
@tayyabsafdar70693 жыл бұрын
These are throw aways, not a worthy tool to be kept and cherished. Double edge is the best for cutting fingers for some one who might have been using safe western saws, the proper saws which lasts you life time day in day out.
@timbeconaus3 жыл бұрын
Hello Tayyab. Thanks for your comment. Very much appreciated. There are many who would agree with you and many who would not. So, we have something interesting for you to watch on our channel tomorrow - LIVE. At 10:00am AEST tomorrow morning - Saturday 24th of July - we will be livestreaming an event which will compare the two methods - push vs pull. We suggest you join in and be a part of the active chat that will no doubt accompany this livestream. Hope to see you there.
@999porte5 жыл бұрын
jesus christ stop rubbing your fingers on the edges!
@amezcuaist4 жыл бұрын
Japanese rule for sawing-- Only cut the surface you can see.-- So from 9.42 you break the golden rule. In this video you have a nice straight grain piece of soft wood. So you were "lucky". But for a teaching video about Japanese saws you broke the rule . Most videos don`t explain how the Japanese rip saw should be used . You got close to the right idea and then shot yourself in the foot by not demonstrating Rip Cutting. You switched back to cross cutting . So I don`t think you understand how a Japanese rip saw works . Just as 5 other videos get it wrong as well . You are not alone .