Glad to hear :D

I agree, it's getting hard nowadays finding a review that doesn't sound like a damn commercial on tv

Ty Ronnie, as always! :D

Cheers dude :) Happy to hear. Nice channel btw. Just curious, do those Ali express shoes come in 49? :D

@@TechTesters Sizes can be a bit tricky, the latest one's I have top out at 46 11/3 EU size, out of luck with 49. :( You could mail them to ask what they have available in that size if you really wanted them. ;)

@@IntermitTech Its hard enough to find shoes here, I won't even try on Ali :D

I actually did like the G602. Just a shame that sensor was never updated. I guess an actual 502 wireless is inevitable at this point.

@@TechTestersWireless range is a bit short too. You're right though, the 502 is super popular so it had to go wireless.

Yea, wireless performance has improved a lot over the last years. I used to have problems with the older generation G7's and such. I haven't had a decent performance mouse have range issues in years now. Keep in mind some cheap options (like the MK520/MK540 for office pc's ) will still struggle with range easily.

Even with small hands you can want an XL mouse I suppose :D

Bought it. Liked it. 6 months in the left click is mushy and side buttons have failed. It's a POS, don't buy it.

Appreciate comments like this! Honestly there is no 'right' size either. I actually use the G Pro Wireless a lot which is about as small as your G303 (or G203, which is the G102 in some countries iirc?). If you prefer to claw grip like you, you'd need to be a giant for a mouse like this: this is palm grip material. We try to help with reviews, but at the end of the day its always really hard to get advice right for everyone. LEt me know if you're ever looking for something different though, we have a collection to base tips on ;)

Evidently mouse size depends on the grip style. I just really like quality of Corsair's keyboards and mice. Sadly their mice are too big for me. I use Corsair K70 Lux keyboard and I love the aluminium finish and feel. Yes G102 & G203 are the same mice as far as I know. Mine (white G102) was purchased in Australia when I was on a holiday. If you want big mouse to palm it, try Cooler Master Storm Reaper from 2013 (I have it in my collection just because it looks good). It even has very manly all metal scroll wheel. However the laser sensor (Avago 9800) calibration feels weird to me , it doesn't detect small movements well and it is too heavy if you like to lift your mouse during use. Having said that my best friend uses his for 5 years and he has no complains. Reviews are subjective to a certain extend. :-) When it comes to the channel content and reviews, you guys are doing just great. I am not looking for anything in particular. I just like watching everything PC related (like reviews of cups, gpus, motherboards, cases, monitors, peripherals.. etc). I been into computers since I got my first laptop (AST Advantage NB-SX25 386SX/25Mhz) from my parents in 1994 and I tried to play Doom on it after school, like 10 FPS at 320x240 resolution. Than I built my first gaming desktop in 1997 with Cyrix 6x86 MX-PR233 (188Mhz) , 3dfx Voodoo 1 4mb GPU and 16mb ram. I still regret not going for Pentium MMX200 to this day... blame Quake II. Geeks will be geeks. :-)

@@lowu001 I had a 386 laptop in those days and I remember it was a terrible brick with a terrible screen, but I still played Warlords on it for days on end (well, on the charger, efficiency has come a long way too...) As for the mice. I guess you could give the Harpoon Wireless a try if you want to stick to Corsair. It's.. ok, especially for the price but it's a lower end design and you can feel that too. We both love Corsair KB's too tbh, but at the end of the day if you can't find the right mouse within the same software ecosystem, it's not worth settling. Objectively the best (small) suggestion would be the G Pro Wireless which is all kinds of awesome tbh. But that does require some serious budget too.

At the moment I like Logitech for my mice and Corsair for keyboards. Already have more than 20 mice. Now I am off to play some Metro Exodus. I really like it, rare single player gem, people just want battle royale games this days. Plus it runs well on my old 3930k with RTX2060 (lost my GTX480 last year after 8 years, so I got old cpu/new gpu combo). Btw, I had Warlords too on my 386 laptop, but I remember playing Wing Commander more. Have nice weekend, both of you.

No problem 👍

Not sure, best call the police :D

Nada's husband

He's a fucking legend!

Enjoy! The double click issue is actually one of the most common ways an omron switch dies. Since those switches are in 90% of gaming mice you'll probably find a lot of results for any mouse to have that 'issue'. It's not a thing most brands can do much about.

It really is nicer than having 39393838 software packages (our test rigs for RGB pics/vids.. XD)

Will see if i can get my hands on that :D

Welcome :D

Too

Like this one? :D twitter.com/Foritain/status/1117773190439342085 In all seriousness, we have a few Razer reviews inc!

What happened that you needed four replacements? The original Tyon had an old laser sensor so I discounted that from comparison (even though i did love it for MMOs back in the day). The Leadr has a better sensor now, but still uses 5m Omrons (instead of 50 mil click models in the Ironclaw) and is a lot more expensive. I guess if you -really- like that button layout and analog thumb button its viable, but the Ironclaw just makes more sense at less money tbh. The base shape isnt all that different though.

@@TechTesters ​ with all mice the spring mechanism of the analog paddle become defect after about 3 months

@@whazzzup7916 I guess I should be happy I didnt use it much. Used the Tyon for aaaages. The paddle rarely.

Movement latency you won't feel a difference. Click latency difference will probably be around 3-4 ms or so, nothing you'll notice either tbh. Funny thing is that I also had a g900 and i thought it was too small -but- the G Pro Wireless is also small and I do love claw gripping that one. But bottom line: if you're uncomfortable, try something else. If you want bigger and wireless, this is a solid option. Alternatively the Asus Gladius II Wireless is a bit more 'in between' and solid too. More expensive though.

The hump is a bit further back and slightly taller, so it feels more hand-filling. Buttons can be customized to your own actions, same as Logitech.

@@TechTesters thank you one more question does the software work on macos??

What do you mean with 'soft'. It's just a typical ish wheel.

@@TechTesters I don't know, it seems to be almost broken

You can just put a little icon in your taskbar.

Correct. But I'd rather lose RGB and have more battery life imho. If you want a larger mouse thats wired and has a ton of RGB, you can check out their new Glaive RGB Pro which is solid. I'd take the wireless and extra buttons of the Ironclaw though!

@@TechTesters RGB i'll admit its a mixed bag. Can look cool, single color theme would look better then the Hypno Changing modes most of the time. Was thinking of a Roccat Kone atm though. Or like 2 Spare MX518 Legendary's

Its probably subjective, but I much prefer these buttons over the dark core.

@@TechTesters yup me to. And beside that the clickyness of the darkcore isn't that nice.

google it

@@ardaldn duh, no shit, do you really think I'd be posting if it was that easy? 😳

Darran Baker well he’s obviously not going to answer your comment so I was suggesting an easier idea. Look harder

No it doesn't, you'll have to wire it from time to time.

@@TechTesters Thank you for your kind reply. I hope that will be support wireless charging or charging dock.

We hear that a lot :D

Nope :)

I'd have to check but it'll be a while. Generally it isn't really much of a concern as you will have the cable with antenna on your desk anyway. Just plug it in a few hours when it gets low (I usually do this when I work, so gaming is always wireless) and that is enough. I'll check, but it's usually a couple of hours tops.

@@TechTesters Wow, did not expect the fast response. Thanks man. I have been going back and forth between this and the steel series rival 650 because I have very large hands. When I say very large I mean from the tip of my middle finger to the bottom of my palm is 232 mm and the width is 128 mm and my ring size is either 13 or 14 depending on the finger. If it takes more than an hour to get a decent charge then I think I will go with the 650.

​@@mattanderson5627 I'm not sure since I never bothered checking. I just know that whenever i looked a bit later, all my wireless mice were full. For example I plugged in the g pro when i answered you, and it went from 50%-100% meanwhile. Time just.. flies too fast for those things. Honestly I dont think there will be big differences in charging time, but I might be wrong. As I said, I'll need to see at some point ( Dont have the Ironclaw with me, its at the office). As for the right mouse. Tough Q, as that's a big hand. The Ironclaw is taller and fills the palm more, but the 600/650 (I have a 600) is definitely longer. If its the length of the fingers that concern you, the 650 might be a better bet. Ironclaw gives that 'full' feeling but its not extremely long. I just worry the 600 wont be long enough either, but aside from the Spatha (laser sensor.. ngh) I can't think of any longer ones either :-/

very top of your middle finger to the end of your palm

@@PatriotPaulUSA thank you

No :D

Really or j/k?

We still have it and use it somewhat regularly. That's only one sample though.

@@TechTesters dang you still reply to these? thats some quality and thanks for the info

what mouse do you suggest?`im struggling with pain due to my 12cm wide palms and 21 cm long :(

@@rasmusnielsen5173 For me it was a toss-up between this and the Roccat Kone Aimo (wired). Today is purchase day for me and the comments here have swayed me towards Roccat. (Too many Ironclaw mouse wheel failure and broken button comments.)

@@rasmusnielsen5173 sadly I never found a mouse that fits the way I want it too. I tried the g703 and it felt pretty good compared to most because of the very tall bump on the back of the mouse (I like palm grip feeling). Still too small though because of its length. It also developed the reverse scroll problem, so I switched to the Razer Basilisk Ultimate. The Basilisk U is long enough that my fingers rest at the tips of the buttons while the back of the mouse touches my palm. It's super similar to the g503 shape and feel, but I think the hump is a bit taller on the Basilisk U (I could be wrong though). It's the best mouse I have found so far, but still not perfect. I hope this helps!

Van ons hoeft het ook niet 😉

Yeah. There is also a new glaive review Inc :) I suppose the old one may go on sale (it's still good)

@@TechTesters Thank you

You just plug the wire in when you're not gaming every few days, get used to it pretty fast. Replacable batteries would probably make it even heavier and/or more expensive.

Because 90% of mice and 99% of gaming mice use the same Omron switches and are all within 'who gives a damn' variance in noise levels. If we start reviewing mice en masse we'll start doing that comparison, so far just recording the sound doesn't really help you at all.

You just got a bad one 😂

@@SilencioTortilla ^___^

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I think your understanding of mouse size might be a little off the mark. If your fingers are hanging over the front, you should move your entire hand back on the mouse to reduce or eliminate the front overlap of your fingers. Unless you're using a very aggressive claw grip, you can't expect that the mouse will support your entire hand with no contact between your hand and the mouse pad at all. Most users will experience some contact between the back/heel of their hand and the mouse pad. A lot of users, by default, place their hand too far forward on mice, and then wonder why their mouse is uncomfortable. This is especially common with Logitech mice due to their high center hump. You have to move your hand further back and accept that there will be some contact between your hand and the mouse pad. You'll need to learn how to lift and manipulate the back of your hand to fit your playstyle. Sometimes it becomes a brace that you can use for added stability, other times you'll need to lift it off the mouse pad completely in order to move quickly. This is the biggest gaming mouse there is AFAIK. If it's too small for you, you won't find anything bigger. If you use palm grip, you're not going to find any mouse that will keep your entire hand off the mouse pad at all times. If this really bothers you, you might want to look at trackball mice. They are used by some extremely good FPS players and with practice should be just as good for your average gamer as a traditional gaming mouse. Just my two cents.

Did you claim warranty? What did they say?

Did you get it RMAd?

Valt wel mee toch? :P

@@TechTesters ja eigenlijk wel maar in combinatie met u uiterlijk merk je dat wel

Heh, die Hollandse knar krijg je idd lastig aangepast :P

Why? Qi charger would require you to lay the mouse on that spot to charge. Might as well plug it in every few days when not gaming.

RMA it, shouldn't happen :)

I tried they said I pressed the mouse wheel “too hard” even tho I’ve never abused this mouse by any definition of the word

.. what? Do you have an RMA convo history for that or so? I don't know the details of course, but it sounds weird.

@@TechTesters my email has been filling up so ive been deleting all read messages i shoulda kept that one just wasnt thinking

@@spinchilla2925 lol sure