ANACS to PCGS - Our Biggest Crossover Yet

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@COPPERMOUNTAINCOINS.
@COPPERMOUNTAINCOINS. Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even bother trying to cross an anacs graded coin, to me anacs is just as good as pcgs or ngc if not better. Anacs has strongly become the working man's coin grading company and is just as good as pcgs or ngc at half the price.
@josefigueroa3930
@josefigueroa3930 Жыл бұрын
I agree on your statement..💯 I also swear I thought i read your name as robert watermelon 🍉
@iamelectrictn3147
@iamelectrictn3147 Жыл бұрын
I totally disagree. ANACS is subpar. People think they are good for the cost but when they constantly miss the grades, what's the point?
@johorn702
@johorn702 7 ай бұрын
I use anacs often and find them to be tough on some coins, the indian cents are especially undergraded in my experience.
@kevykevTPA
@kevykevTPA 5 ай бұрын
Until you want to sell, at which point an educated buyer is gonna automatically deduct a point or three. Which is what infuriates me about it all!
@joshpointoh
@joshpointoh 5 ай бұрын
​@kevykevTPA this is the main point. Doesn't matter what you think about the quality of ANACS, most people want NGC or PCGS or it might as well not be graded. So, if your purpose is to have the most accurate grade of a coin, maybe ANACS is just as good, especially for specific types of coins, but if you care at all about resale, you aren't saving anything.
@TiHerr74
@TiHerr74 Жыл бұрын
Love the math at the end of the video. I see why you are a coin shop owner and not a math professor. Great watch!
@everettwhite9874
@everettwhite9874 Жыл бұрын
That coin made me pause for a moment too. 😊 I alway pick up something different to consider as Ben talks about grading and crossover coins. Thanks
@knapz665
@knapz665 11 ай бұрын
🤣
@bl7121
@bl7121 Жыл бұрын
There are several dealers on KZfaq who's videos I enjoy. Ben you by far are the best. I also get a kick out of Daniel from coinhelpu. He is a character just like yourself. You guys do a great job of educating us collectors.
@otispeters
@otispeters Жыл бұрын
Watch the video of Ben interviewing Daniel Monroe it's CLASSIC 🌵🏄🦘🎨
@vintagesanctuary
@vintagesanctuary Жыл бұрын
Awesome crossover! I think the small white ANACS holders are called "soap bar" holders because they look like a small bar of hotel soap. 😊
@machine260292
@machine260292 Жыл бұрын
Don't break the soapbox!!
@alfredparsons6811
@alfredparsons6811 Жыл бұрын
I’m liking my 60 soapbox holders more and more.
@josefigueroa3930
@josefigueroa3930 Жыл бұрын
Goals
@nOPE-fs3du
@nOPE-fs3du Жыл бұрын
For the amount of money and time PCGS takes, they should at least give us more details on why they come to some of their decisions (e.g. "did not cross over").
@Mister_T_from_Erie_P
@Mister_T_from_Erie_P Жыл бұрын
I love cross over, crack out and open box videos. I watched the entire video. Love it.
@kevykevTPA
@kevykevTPA 5 ай бұрын
I would love it to see someone send the same raw, unslabbed coins to all the grading companies and compare the results side-by-side-by-side. But it would probably take more than a few to detect any trends, so someone richer than me will have to volunteer!
@thesilveraura2177
@thesilveraura2177 Жыл бұрын
Those ANA blue labels are getting hotter in the last couple of years. I don't think I'd cross those over unless I was going to send them in their soon-to-be PCGS holders to CAC as well.
@robertawiese
@robertawiese Жыл бұрын
Your videos are so great… the way you go through every coin and analyze the grade and the various detail is so helpful for us newer collectors… thank you for sharing!😁👍
@tylonnplatinumthe3rd659
@tylonnplatinumthe3rd659 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the customer doing this for the channel first off. Secondly that was a really high cross rate which is impressive. Not all Anacs coins will cross at this rate so clearly he was being selective
@elee950021
@elee950021 9 ай бұрын
Great video! A "soapbox" ANAC slab is very similar in size to small bars of soap one finds in hotel and motel bathrooms. Be well! Ed
@anthonyburnside7715
@anthonyburnside7715 Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing! I've cleaned those enclosure scuffs with toothpaste and a microfiber cloth.
@ProfWalton
@ProfWalton Жыл бұрын
What a collection!
@markplummer4957
@markplummer4957 Жыл бұрын
Dang it Ben! I need that 1926-D Lincoln. It’s the last UNC Lincoln I need for my complete UNC wheat set in PCGS holders.
@morgansinner
@morgansinner 3 ай бұрын
Your collection would be cool to see...that's some fantastic UNC cents'$ in there!
@toxicmist254
@toxicmist254 Жыл бұрын
Interesting, the 1924 Merc at 16:13 has a bit of rotation obv vs rev
@stephenweihrauch5252
@stephenweihrauch5252 Жыл бұрын
The math at the end did it for me. If we could all be so lucky at a submission like this!
@stevegavett4226
@stevegavett4226 Жыл бұрын
love those peace dollar upgrades...wow
@Walkerazul
@Walkerazul Жыл бұрын
This may be one of the most successful crossover subs I’ve ever seen, especially given how tight PCGS these days (its crossover rate is hovering around 30%)
@GregoryField-bh4fd
@GregoryField-bh4fd Жыл бұрын
This is a great report! Really enjoy and handle soapbox holders whenever possible. Can honestly say they sell very quickly when they come in and have had good results when selectively crossing over. Really enjoyed seeing the peripheral toning on the soapbox holders, believe some of that is due to the holders. Have also seen, what I believe to be, is some toning in the older, first gen ICG holders as well. Bought a group that had old Teletrade stickers and the Buffalo and Jefferson nickels REALLY had some cool toning and color on them. Curious if anyone else has seen this?
@koryburleson7191
@koryburleson7191 Жыл бұрын
Wow, those were some beautiful toned coins. Stunning really. Loved your math at the end. lol
@ltcol2005
@ltcol2005 Жыл бұрын
Pcgs and Ngc never put full steps on proof coins. it should have full steps due to the proof strike.
@tomsrandomness
@tomsrandomness 7 ай бұрын
I love the soap box holders
@jeffw1267
@jeffw1267 Жыл бұрын
On the 1925 SLQ, maybe the grader thought the coin had wear on it. It has some strike weakness, so there is some flatness on the shield and breast. It looks BU to me but I've never seen the coin in hand. Look closely and see if the coin is a super-slider.
@flippensweet3
@flippensweet3 Жыл бұрын
Very cool video. The 1930 dime was beautiful.
@MakeNumismaticsGreatAgain
@MakeNumismaticsGreatAgain Жыл бұрын
One might say that last one had some bird poop at the bottom 😂
@b12y5e
@b12y5e Жыл бұрын
I dont know that much about coins, but I know that all of those coins are beautiful!
@josefigueroa3930
@josefigueroa3930 Жыл бұрын
Its time for you to learn more and take a long trip into this great hobby 🛸
@b12y5e
@b12y5e Жыл бұрын
@@josefigueroa3930 heck yeah!! I'm trying...but it's a lot to learn. Theres so much bad information out there, and learning the good info like how coins are actually minted is daunting in itself lol
@josefigueroa3930
@josefigueroa3930 Жыл бұрын
@@b12y5e first find out what will your 2-3 favorite coins will be which you like the most you can always like all coins but there will be some coins that you will like more than others choose your favorite and just go from there then learn about them you dont need to know 100% how they were made i dont😂😂 and coin collecting will always be my number 1 hobby
@b12y5e
@b12y5e Жыл бұрын
@@josefigueroa3930 great idea! I have to narrow my list down. The only reason I'm interested in how coins are made is to understand true doubled die varieties vs mint errors. I'm into errors and varieties, which dont always have the beautiful look and luster of the coins highlighted in this video.
@johnwachter6369
@johnwachter6369 Жыл бұрын
Happy to see so many ANACS crossing
@ericwarner3150
@ericwarner3150 9 ай бұрын
It's old ANACS crossing. Newer, I have my doubts. That's the reason all the infomercial coin seller's have ANACS 70's.
@kevykevTPA
@kevykevTPA 5 ай бұрын
@@ericwarner3150 When it comes to a coin graded at 70, it should be easy. 70=PERFECT. Not a single nick, scratch, bag mark, or other defect when viewed under 5x magnification. If a "professional" grader can't properly detect a perfect coin, they are in the wrong line of work.
@otispeters
@otispeters Жыл бұрын
Dude the "soapbox" reference is based on the traveling plastic bar of soap container that's two pieces (male and female) that slide in one another type thingy 😉
@kevykevTPA
@kevykevTPA 5 ай бұрын
This video, and the one I watched the other day about CAC, all conspire to tell me two things. One is that we need more clarity as to what makes a coin a 65 vs. a 63, as just a random example. Two is we need more TRANSPARENCY, so when you try to crossover and it doesn't, they (all of 'em, not just PCGS) need to tell us why. Third, and perhaps most importantly, is that the entire industry need to readdress what grading standards even are, how they apply, and why. I am well aware that grading is subjective and as much art as it is science, but when the Big Three look at the same coin, and come up with 3 divergent values, somebody, or possibly two somebodies are wrong. A coin can't be a 67 in one place, 69 in another, and a 58 in yet another, once again just picking random numbers. People say "Buy the coin, not the holder", but in some cases, that little number on a slab will make the difference between a $50 coin and a $1,000 one, with just one or two "points", that most buyers couldn't even see if it weren't slabbed. It's almost like gambling if you think about it, especially now that two companies are competing for "Hardest Grader", like there's a prize. And I suppose there is, because over time, just as ANACS
@kevykevTPA
@kevykevTPA 5 ай бұрын
That was more than two things, which clearly means I'm not qualified to be a professional grader. Or does it mean the opposite? 😂😂😂
@jimscherer8072
@jimscherer8072 Жыл бұрын
Your customer has a great eye. Must have been alot of visits to coin shows to get those ANACS coins that grade up or straight cross. New sub !
@goodvideos.113
@goodvideos.113 Жыл бұрын
You have the key to share very unique metallic copper patterns.
@robertscagnelli1011
@robertscagnelli1011 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful coins!! Thanks for sharing Ben!!
@zzyzxRDFwy15
@zzyzxRDFwy15 Жыл бұрын
19:10 You know you're a Coin Geek if SLQ is part of your vocabulary.
@lestercoons3962
@lestercoons3962 Ай бұрын
I think "Hotel/Motel bath soap" is more descriptive than "Soapbox". That's kinda what it really looks like.
@alwaysseekingsilver
@alwaysseekingsilver Жыл бұрын
Love the Coin Geek math at the very end 😂
@jamesbryant6735
@jamesbryant6735 Жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, ' Great ' video best in a long time.
@bee4pcgoldrule.007
@bee4pcgoldrule.007 Ай бұрын
Appeared to balance out between the under graded and over graded. Nice new holders though.I have been using newer ANACS for years.
@joshpointoh
@joshpointoh 5 ай бұрын
The only way I can see ANACS as worth the money is if you have coins that would only be worth grading at a certain grade. Like, if I had a bunch of coins that could be a BU 58 or an MS 61, and i csnt quite tell, but the value difference is pretty big. It might make sense to send off to ANACS and if you can get a 60 or 61, that either at least makes it to where you can call it MS and ask for the much bigger value, or only send off the 61's to NGC, so instead of sending 100 possibles to NGC you sent 100 possibles to ANACS, and you send the 10 61s to NGC. That could save you 50% on the 90 that came back as not worth, and you wind up having to pay for 10 of them twice, so you saved 50% on 90% and paid an extra 50% on 10% of them. That maths pretty well. For example if you sent 100 coins off to ANACS at $15 per coin, and you get back 10 that would be really valuable at the MS60 level, you send off those 10 to NGC at $30 a pop, and you saved $1200 compared to just sending all 100 to NGC to start. That's how I would use ANACS if I thought they were just as accurate as NGC, but not as resealable
@noalwhite2301
@noalwhite2301 7 ай бұрын
that was a generous grade on the 1934 peace with the rim marks!
@BullionBeast
@BullionBeast 4 ай бұрын
Love the math at the end😂 great video
@ltcol2005
@ltcol2005 Жыл бұрын
as with raw coins, ANACS and ICG purchases can be risky especially when you try to cross them. soap dish holders not soapbox ben.
@justinmiller9966
@justinmiller9966 Жыл бұрын
Great show Ben 👍
@kevinhoock9742
@kevinhoock9742 Жыл бұрын
Great video Ben...
@frankchase9297
@frankchase9297 Жыл бұрын
Great show.
@ehrenkrause9861
@ehrenkrause9861 Жыл бұрын
I need that 1912 S raw to finish one of my two Lincoln sets 5:42
@donaldinnewmexico
@donaldinnewmexico Жыл бұрын
Hi, Ben. Of all the coins, I like the Walker that you like. The toning is spectacular. Have a great weekend, Everyone!
@silvercoins
@silvercoins Жыл бұрын
Very nice
@alanhoutz5513
@alanhoutz5513 Жыл бұрын
What I learned from this video is the skepticism and sometimes downright disrespect ANACS gets on their grading is totally unwarranted.
@BusyBeeCompany
@BusyBeeCompany Жыл бұрын
so could I send in a slabbed ngc into pcgs to cross over and they'd not change it should it fail os my 65+ 1921 peace I'd not want to take the risk of cracking it to cross over to pcgs but I feel it could go 66.
@TiHerr74
@TiHerr74 Жыл бұрын
Busy Bee - PCGS has several crossover options. Cross to same grade or higher, cross to any straight grade, cross even to a details grade. If your coin does not cross in the first option above, they will send it back in the NGC holder (but still charge you the same as if it crossed).
@_CYB0RG_
@_CYB0RG_ 7 ай бұрын
Ever seen a bar of hotel soap? Hence the name ‘Soap Bar’ holder.
@marshallprice8503
@marshallprice8503 Жыл бұрын
Not possible, I can't believe it. I get 1 in 10 Anacs coins to cross, when I am lucky. Maybe they finally have found their eye glasses over there at PCGS? Very Nice!
@alwaysseekingsilver
@alwaysseekingsilver Жыл бұрын
I’m 1 for 1 on an 1903-O Morgan in MS63. I should probably quit while I’m batting 1.000
@libertyresearch-iu4fy
@libertyresearch-iu4fy Жыл бұрын
5:45 I have always been a fan of ERICA.
@countrycorner9337
@countrycorner9337 6 ай бұрын
Why cross those early ANACS? Great grades in great early holders.
@lessummers5738
@lessummers5738 Жыл бұрын
What is did not cross ?
@lessummers5738
@lessummers5738 Жыл бұрын
never mind lol
@vm.999
@vm.999 Жыл бұрын
😮
@pawpatrolnews
@pawpatrolnews Жыл бұрын
Here's a fun thought: how many graded coins would it take someone to look though in order to learn how to reliability grade coins, with no outside training, help or resources? Pretend that the person knows nothing about coins before starting.
@_CYB0RG_
@_CYB0RG_ 7 ай бұрын
One of the reasons I use NGC…
@christophermccutcheonichib4256
@christophermccutcheonichib4256 Күн бұрын
What does it mean when a coin does not cross asking for a friend
@user-rh1ri2ss7h
@user-rh1ri2ss7h Жыл бұрын
MS coin in old ANACS holder still have good selling price.
@leofromfreo6602
@leofromfreo6602 5 ай бұрын
I’m starting to wonder is PCGS worth it? .. looks to be an aloof co. to deal with
@countrycorner9337
@countrycorner9337 6 ай бұрын
Man, a few losses in the beginning, but overall it seems that he selected these coins extremely well!
@ernestedwards4073
@ernestedwards4073 Жыл бұрын
22nd! Nice🎉
@lezbarker2673
@lezbarker2673 10 ай бұрын
It’s not for old people as if it was no one old enough to remember them would be around anymore I’m an Aussie and we grow up talking slang and using these old sayings a soap box was a way soap was packed 100 years ago I guess and so you took a soap box to stand on to speak in public so you stood high enough to be heard so the saying get off your soap box then you get the soap box derby young kids made them into what Aussies call Billy carts I think that’s a small cart carried behind a Billy goat and the reason they call these plastic holders soap boxes and I’m old enough to remember my Pop with these but then I saw my mum was going to travel and had one it’s just a plastic box you keep soap in.
@iamgabriel5823
@iamgabriel5823 Жыл бұрын
Is dipping a coin in E-Z-Est considered cleaning?
@Coincraziness
@Coincraziness 9 ай бұрын
Complicated question. Done correctly-no. Done incorrectly-yes. Highly unlikely to cause a details cleaned grade, but can reduce a coins grade by a point or two if overdipped. I have a solid MS64 Morgan I dipped and messed up on and it went MS62. Dip in and out quick of ezest, then rinse under hot water, dip in pure acetone, and dry with a blow dryer or blowing air source (I use a mattress inflator)
@jasonhastings5538
@jasonhastings5538 8 ай бұрын
Some sucker pay big money for those toners!!
@highplainsdrifter6577
@highplainsdrifter6577 Жыл бұрын
1000%!!! 😂
@noalwhite2301
@noalwhite2301 7 ай бұрын
1943 is a 5 all day long!
@northbilling9444
@northbilling9444 Жыл бұрын
To answer your question, MS 60 is usually a designation for gold coins that are rare and just above AU 58 unless an anacs grader is puffing a questionable pipe
@ryanstieglitz8077
@ryanstieglitz8077 4 ай бұрын
Like, share, subscribe, and comment down below. This is my comment down below, with more to come to feed the algorithm.
@royrauch9775
@royrauch9775 Жыл бұрын
How much did they charge you for the coins that did not cross or was of questionable color to them? That first nickel was one of the BEST STRUCK modern nickels I have seen...perhaps the lack of blazing luster passed them off?
@ericwarner3150
@ericwarner3150 9 ай бұрын
There are actually 3 sides to every coin.
@brendancarney6276
@brendancarney6276 Жыл бұрын
Hotel soap box
@rayman46
@rayman46 Ай бұрын
Found ANACS to be excellent in grading . Prefer ANACS .
@andyman0231
@andyman0231 Жыл бұрын
Why didnt you just crack out? Or did you just want crossovers?
@jamesgoss1860
@jamesgoss1860 Жыл бұрын
Crossover is safer. If they disagree, he still has the original soapbox slabs, which have value.
@jamesgoss1860
@jamesgoss1860 Жыл бұрын
@@liamaudette9446 Yes. A few in this video have upgraded scores.
@paulbegansky5650
@paulbegansky5650 Жыл бұрын
Ben, soap box, from a hotel, they ate not full size bur miniature.
@tomsrandomness
@tomsrandomness 7 ай бұрын
600th like lol I'm happy when I get 20 likes ha!
@andyman0231
@andyman0231 Жыл бұрын
Slq was 63 all day
@donaldinnewmexico
@donaldinnewmexico Жыл бұрын
*FIRST!*
@user-bw4pv9nd5t
@user-bw4pv9nd5t Жыл бұрын
First what ? First to show grade 2 maturity level. This is for you.
@typeviic1
@typeviic1 Жыл бұрын
Uhm,....its a "motel" soap box.
@jameskerry3826
@jameskerry3826 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You made a comment that (I'd never heard before; nor have I experienced)..."you gotta have something that's really kind of detrimental to the eye to stop a coin from being a 3". Wow! I have submitted many - both to PCGS and NGC that I was sure would be (minimum a 4) and came back a 2. These were coins that are beautiful w/ I blv PL also...and just a simple 62. There was nothing detrimental to the eye; to the contrary...I was hoping for a Star for some to NGC, and a PL and a shot at 65. None of the above. It was all very disheartening. All-the-more when I studied dozens of pages of 62's slabbed for sale on the internet: many others that were 63's and some 64's, that couldn't hold a candle to the ones I'm referring to. Even so...I'm appreciative of your videos, as I learn more here. Thank you for putting these together. (I'm hoping and expecting, that someday soon, a NONPROFIT ENTITY/COIN MINI-INDUSTRY will emerge...and utterly replace the "experts" that are 'FOR PROFIT".)
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