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Analog Discovery 2 Review

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FesZ Electronics

FesZ Electronics

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#124 Today I decided to do something slightly different and review a product I use quite often and one of the few that I actually enjoy using - the Analog Discovery 2. This is an All-in-one type of device meaning it can do a lot of things, and that is what I talk about - the various features but also its limitations.
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@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman 3 жыл бұрын
FesZ -- this was a very timely review. I was looking at getting one of these for the very reason you mentioned -- measuring and documenting the feedback loop of some switch mode PSUs.
@kryptocat4240
@kryptocat4240 3 жыл бұрын
Addicted to your channel
@R2AUK
@R2AUK 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the review. A curve tracer is especially nice to have!
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I didn't even know this feature was present; it was added in a recent update of the waveforms program. Anyway, its nice that any such function can be implemented using the scripting function
@andymouse
@andymouse Жыл бұрын
Awesome review !....cheers RIP Calculon
@billimew7496
@billimew7496 2 жыл бұрын
Really really great devices by analog device. I am using those for last 3 years. It’s too good for that price and has a lot of features
@ahmedrouatbi599
@ahmedrouatbi599 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review! I hope in the next videos you can show us how to make Phase Shift PWM signals to control a single-phase inverter-based only on duty cycle.
@yaakoubfarah413
@yaakoubfarah413 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@piconano
@piconano 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy one when they came out many years ago. At the end, I decided to buy a 100MHz dual channel scope that has a sig gen and spectrum analyzer built it, for less money! AD2 is a great tool when you're a student and have to bring your own lab equipment. After that, not much space saving with having to use a laptop to operate these headless units.
@ixpixp
@ixpixp 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask what unit you bought?
@piconano
@piconano 2 жыл бұрын
@@ixpixp Hantek DSO4102C
@nezbrun872
@nezbrun872 3 жыл бұрын
These aren't just for hobby or education, they're invaluable on the professional bench too: I have two of the AD 2s, an original Analog Discovery 1 and a Digital Discovery. The second AD 2 I bought in a bricks and mortar store in Tokyo when I'd forgotten to pack it into my baggage. For the logic analyser, there are more decoders than most scopes, for example 1wire. The biggest drawback of the LA is the limited memory depth. I use the power supply quite extensively, especially for unit testing, but most of my work is in the low power mixed signal world, and as such the current limitation isn't a problem for me, and I don't even use the external barrel connector supply input. Note that they are limited to +/-5v. It would be more useful if they went up to, say, +/- 15v for some analogue applications. The default scope inputs are differential which might confuse newcomers: the impact of this is that most of the time, when used in unipolar mode, the -ve input is simply tied to the DUT's ground. I rarely use the BNC adapter in the use cases I have. The software is about as good as it gets for a USB instrument. There are occasions when it's a little frustrating to find out how to do things, generally leading to a minor fit of random button pushing. The best feature for me is its form factor: I can take it anywhere, and pre covid I used it frequently on long journeys, and when on the bench, it takes up little space. Unfortunately the price has been creeping up over the years. At one time the original AD 1 was $99 to students and $199 to others: it was an absolute steal at those prices. It's now $279 academic pricing and £399 list. There were shortages at the beginning of Covid, presumably when students weren't able to get into the labs. IMHO, even at $399, this is a worthy addition to any EE bench.
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman 3 жыл бұрын
Wistful day-dream sequence.....Tokyo... a faraway land where Analog Discovery 2's are just sitting around in bricks-and-mortar stores, waiting for you to pick them up whenever you happen to pass by ...
@nezbrun872
@nezbrun872 3 жыл бұрын
@@Graham_Wideman Akihabara, but you need to know where to go, and have time on your hands. I have a little map I made after a few visits. For some reason, this particular store only took cash, so I had to find a cash machine to make my purchase. akizukidenshi.com/catalog/g/gM-10135/
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman 3 жыл бұрын
@@nezbrun872 I was really just making a whimsical remark for amusement -- but your reply is pretty interesting! Thanks!
@nezbrun872
@nezbrun872 3 жыл бұрын
@@Graham_Wideman You can spend hours in the half dozen or so shops I frequent. They have stock of reasonably up to date devices, and pander to everyone from guitar effects pedal makers to FPGA aficionados. I usually walk out with dozens of assorted breakout boards, tools, headers etc. They're often frequented with school kids looking for parts for their projects which is a joy to behold, it brings me back to my schooldays several decades ago. The biggest problem for me is that typically I'm jetlagged when I visit: their opening times are my native bedtime.
@larcomj
@larcomj 3 жыл бұрын
I've had one of these for a while, its a lab in a box.
@placiduzzu
@placiduzzu 3 жыл бұрын
Nice having a sort of Bode 100 and Saleae 8 under the same roof, but you just can’t expect the same performance with Analog Discovery 2 (on certain characteristics). I find very unique the digital pattern generator, which is very useful for FPGA debugging. The bundle has some meh small test hook clip grabbers. The support from the forum is pretty good and prompt. My 2 cents.
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, you don't get the same performance, but the Saleae is ~400$ and the Bode is ~4500$; As long as your budget is limited, the AD2 offers a low cost equivalent.
@__--JY-Moe--__
@__--JY-Moe--__ 2 жыл бұрын
apply dry putty, then cover in foil. if needed 4 shielding:)
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
I tried :D (adding shielding around the AD2) the problem is not noise coming from the outside, its noise generated on the board; the various modules are so close together they impact one-another...
@thorstenoerts
@thorstenoerts 3 жыл бұрын
Often you can pick these up second hand from EE graduates who just needed it for school. I paid about 160 USD for mine, and at that price it's certainly well worth it.
@piconano
@piconano 3 жыл бұрын
That scripting capability and impedance measuring, is what makes this unit a must have for some. If you need these functions, $400 it's very cheap.
@freqcy
@freqcy 3 жыл бұрын
Great intro. Would you make a video on how to design a DIY 2GHz spectrum analyzer using modern ICs?
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I could properly do that... There used to be some relatively cheap products on ebay or similar places, that advertised 35Mhz-4.4Ghz USB spectrum analyzers. Although not perfect, the thing you buy will most likely be cheaper and work better than a diy option... I used one of those in an older video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/max9ZNJ73L7eoHk.html
@naasikhendricks1501
@naasikhendricks1501 3 жыл бұрын
TI has spectrum analyzer sub ghz upto 3ghz on the C31 evk board.
@daolord2746
@daolord2746 3 жыл бұрын
Si eres estudiante, investigador u otros relacionado con la educación puede solicitar el precio de estudiante que es un 30% más barato ,actualmente con ese descuento es 279dolares y no 399 dólares que es su precio de lista.
@falconhawker
@falconhawker 2 жыл бұрын
$466 ! build my own! DIY
@Plons0Nard
@Plons0Nard 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting ! 👍🏻🤝🏻🇳🇱 Is there a reason for the black tape on the powersupply you have on the bench in many videos?
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
It covers the name of the manufacturer/reseller; I've seen the exact same supply appear under different names, but the model name is the same.
@Plons0Nard
@Plons0Nard 2 жыл бұрын
@@FesZElectronics Thanks. That was clear to me. I just wondered why that powersupply and not the other equipment ? Scope, multimeters etc Anyway, I like your videos. Cheers from the Netherlands 👍🏻🤝🏻
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, well, I guess then it has to do with equipment I do and don't recommend. Out of all my pieces of equipment, the power supply is the one thing that gave me the most headaches - I have a few episodes on how I am trying to reduce its noise output. I can't say all my other pieces of equipment are perfect, most of them are relatively low cost, but the power supply just stood out at the time I put the sticker on, and I haven't really taken it off since. I didn't change it either because I really enjoy the form factor, its really small.
@Plons0Nard
@Plons0Nard 2 жыл бұрын
@@FesZElectronics Thank you. A decent set of powersupplies is a great asset. I built a few myself. And will watch your videos about your improvement attempts. 👍🏻🤝🏻🇳🇱
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I found mine on FB. And the kicker. The seller looked at my profile. Discovered I was Christian and sold me the discovery 2 and the BNC board for 100.
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 3 жыл бұрын
It's a nice gadget. Sadly, one needs a laptop or a desktop to use it and that cancels out the small size.
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
In my experience at least, not using a laptop/computer for regular electronics experimentation is not really practical. I mean, if you need to look up a datasheet, or you don't want to print schematics on paper, or just run a quick circuit simulation, the computer is indispensable...
@objection_your_honor
@objection_your_honor 3 жыл бұрын
@@FesZElectronics I agree and use my 10" android tablet for datasheets. My work bench is too small. I'm sure it is a fantastic tool for the right lab.
@Graham_Wideman
@Graham_Wideman 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that bugs me about these Discovery products (I have a Digital Discovery) is the *&^%$# I/O wires, and not even the electrical properties. Why oh why couldn't they use rainbow ribbon cable that uses wire colors that we are either already familiar with, or which it's useful for the youngsters to learn anyway. As it stands the wires are in completely useless nondescript pastel lavenderish (?), burgundy (?), green and beige (?). I mean, as engineers, we don't even have words for three of these "colors"! And that list of four repeats every four wires, so it's incredibly easy to get them mixed up -- as I have even seen on a product demo video. I do see in your video that AD2 has some other colors thrown in at one end.
@FesZElectronics
@FesZElectronics 3 жыл бұрын
On my cable, the colors for the digital I/o 's do have the 4 colors, but on the second row these wires have the same color with a white stripe. So I guess that helps to not mix them up so badly. The other colors are for the oscilloscope and the signal generator part. In the end though, I guess you could make your own ribbon cable, since its a standard 2.54mm pin header, it should not be that hard to get a connector. I rarely use the stock cable, rather I make my own adapters and cables for specific needs.
@nezbrun872
@nezbrun872 3 жыл бұрын
I've mostly become used to it, but need to briefly refresh myself each time I start using the LA. The problem is that if you use the standard resistor rainbow colours you'd risk confusing the power supply with, say, the digital channels.
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