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Analog Modeled Eq's Vs Digital Eq's

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BigJerr

BigJerr

Күн бұрын

In this video we explore the Sonic Differences between Analog Modeled EQ's and Digital Eq's. Furthermore - we will discuss when and how to use these tools to get an amazing sound. There really is a huge and noticeable difference so don't shy away from your Analog Modeled EQ's ! They will make a dramatic difference in your mixes.
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@therealkevinnguyen
@therealkevinnguyen 3 жыл бұрын
Super helpful. I have a bunch of waves plugins I rarely touch.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
sick so glad it helped
@troeteimarsch
@troeteimarsch 3 жыл бұрын
I just love your style man. Thank you for this video, totally worth it!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
of course man - means alot
@matrixate
@matrixate 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good reminder. Thanks for this!
@MARAASIM
@MARAASIM 3 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from you man. Thanks for these masterpieces
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
im very happy to know that :)
@Audesi
@Audesi 2 жыл бұрын
The actual frequency on an 'analog' or modeled EQ band isn't always the the frequency that's labeled. For example. the SSL 4000 EQ in Softube Console 1 accurately shows the frequency curve on the visual UI, but bossting 1khz on one of the bands is really centered around 800hz. On top of that each of the mid bands set at the same frequency boost differently. So I think 1khz on another mid band boosts 1.25khz rather than 1khz. The Q is usually much wider on most 'analog' eq's as well. I'm curious if most would sound any different at all if the slopes were matched as accurately as possible, without consideration of the knobs/UI settings.
@constmusic1
@constmusic1 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a great video, super well explained!! Thanks for that!!
@rizzbod
@rizzbod Жыл бұрын
thnx man
@SchneiderRicky
@SchneiderRicky 3 жыл бұрын
thanks man! awesome and helpful content💪🏻
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
so glad you liked it
@lovefromgary206
@lovefromgary206 3 жыл бұрын
Great explanation...very clear. `Thank you
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
your very welcome
@rishxbeatz5761
@rishxbeatz5761 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video very helpful 🔥🔥
@dh.l7499
@dh.l7499 3 жыл бұрын
your tutorials are awesome man, thanks! Are you going to put that sample pack out? Your sound from the last video was dope, been on the look out for it!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
yes ! I wanna actually get that out by weeks end hopefully - thanks for the kick int he ass !
@hasiburrahman6390
@hasiburrahman6390 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing tutorial buddy! Just wanted to clarify that you're boosting 10dBs on 80hz. But we clearly see that the lead you are using has its fundamental frequency of around 200hz. Why did you boost so much on the frequencies that you would cut out later using a high pass?
@eneksy
@eneksy 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous Man. Love ❤
@JoshSmith-xm4gz
@JoshSmith-xm4gz Жыл бұрын
Useful video. I think you would get much closer results if you didn't match the settings exactly between plugins, but instead adjusted each to ear. For instance a HPF on one of my analog modeled EQ's set at 200Hz, sounds practically the same as a HPF set at 119Hz on my digital EQ. Drastically different settings for practically the same results.
@aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3
@aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3 3 жыл бұрын
amazing
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
glad it helped
@Bronwyn031
@Bronwyn031 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know. The more and more I listen to these shootouts between digital vs analog I just prefer the nice sharp crisp clear unmuddied sound of digital.
@realastrology3976
@realastrology3976 8 ай бұрын
This is what I do
@soccerman127
@soccerman127 2 жыл бұрын
More DAWs should have stock analog-modeled EQs. Ableton has 3 different EQs, and one of them (EQ Eight) is good enough to make the other two useless
@ts4gv
@ts4gv 3 жыл бұрын
9:35
@malo374
@malo374 2 жыл бұрын
Most analgog modeled EQs are not really doing what the numbers are saying. So there is no use comparing two EQs like this, but there are simple ways to find out what the EQ curves really look like. There are plugins that show you those curves. Bertom EQ Curve Analyzer is free and it's not too difficult to understand. Now you can really compare two EQs by matching th EQ curves. Do a blind test and you will see that the differences aren't that big anymore. The remaining difference is probably mostly the missing saturation in a digital EQ. But it's easy to fix that, you might not even need to. I think a lot of EQ-plugins have a right to exist in their ease of use. For example if you want a quick way to get that SSL sound. But I know a lot of people that spend money on plugins because they are tought that those plugins are magical, noone really knows why they sound so good. That is simply wrong.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 2 жыл бұрын
wow thanks for the detailed explanation of your view - I however disagree - analog compressors and EQ all have there own sound.
@malo374
@malo374 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr I agree, I'm just saying you could emulate most of them with a stock EQ and a bit of saturation. It won't be 100% the same but I think almost noone will notice the difference. Compressors are a different topic and it's not really possible to get to similar sounds with a stock compressor. That's mostly because most compressors have a set attack and release curve (not time!). I don't know if there's a compressor, where you can adjust those curves. Pro-C has a few options so you can get very close with that one.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 2 жыл бұрын
@@malo374 but why do it the hard way - these plug ins are easy and fun to use - especially if you already have them
@malo374
@malo374 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr If you already have them, there's no reason not to use them. You won't get back your money, so there's no use in thinking about it. But people watching this video might be thinking of purchasing these plugins. These plugins are pretty expensive and for some people 150$ (guessed price, I'm not from the US) is a significant amount of money. So I think it's important that they are being informed well. And I know there are also subscription models. That can go two ways: 1. You start paying for the plugins and at some point you notice, you don't really want to pay 15$ a month so you either buy the plugins or you stop using them. Buying now is definatly worse then buying day 1 but the alternative is pretty annoying: You can't open your old projects. 2. You never stop paying montly until you stop mixing for good. And I hope people keep with it for longer then a year, at which point you have payed the full price of the plugins. That sucks and some people notice that way too late. I personally think a lot of plugins are way too expensive for what they are actually doing. And I always feel a bit icky when I analyze a plugin and find out, that the EQ-Bands are boosting a different frequency then I put in. Or the plugin increases the volume by 1dB when you turn it on. And that happens way too often. It sometimes feels like some plugin developers are exploiting their customers weaknesses and I absolutely despise that.
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 2 жыл бұрын
@@malo374 well its obvious you feel strongly about this _ im not sure why - but some people like to have variety when they mix and if this video opens some peoples eyes to the possibility of processing with analog style devices I'm not sure why your taking the time out of your life to write paragraphs about it on my KZfaq page- kinda silly huh - anyway if you keep talking nonsense ill just erase your comments and ban you from the page - its simply not your call - but thanks anyway
@boimesa8190
@boimesa8190 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any EQs with FabFilter type GUI and model hardware (not any specific hardware)
@echo_horizon
@echo_horizon 9 ай бұрын
Very late answer, but look into DMG Equilibrium and Kirchhoff EQ
@fnopi
@fnopi 3 жыл бұрын
wait but... the analog modeled EQs DO sound louder than the Pro Q3. You mentioned that the loudness should not trick us, but I had the feeling the loudness is not adapted in the comparison between analog modeled eq and Pro Q3 or am I wrong? Beside that, very nice video thank you =)
@lib747
@lib747 3 жыл бұрын
Same reaction here. Not even close. Using an AB loudness plugin would've helped greatly, or just level matching better. Also, other then that, great video!
@BigJerr
@BigJerr 3 жыл бұрын
well if they do sound loud its because of the analog modeling - but I did match the peaks - sooooo....there is a difference between Peak and RMS ...perceived loudness - but thats a different topic.
@lib747
@lib747 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr ...it's a good topic!
@fnopi
@fnopi 3 жыл бұрын
@@BigJerr Okay I see. Yeah you have to match the RMS so that loudness is matched and not the peak amplitude. Thanks for your answer =)
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