Analog Processing Box | McDSP APB-16 Review

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The McDSP APB-16 is like a full collection of analog hardware at your fingertips. Use plugins in your DAW to control the parameters of 100% analog EQ, Compression, Saturation, Limiting, and Multiband. These plugins are not analog emulations! They control real analog circutry inside the APB using the benefits of modern in the box workflows combined with analog sound quality.
Learn how to easily connect your APB-16 and install the VST AU and AAX plugins for any DAW. Hear mixing and mastering demos using APB plugins like KD1, Chicken Head, Moo Tube, Royal Q, and more.
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0:00 - 2:46 APB-16 Intro
2:47 - 5:12 Analog Limiter
5:13 - 8:57 Drum Saturation
8:58 - 10:48 Guitar EQ
10:49 - 12:56 Sidechain Compression
12:57 - 14:30 Vocal Compression
14:31 - 17:19 Automation
17:20 - 19:06 Mastering
19:07 - 20:41 APB-16 Overview

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@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Stream the song from this tutorial on Spotify “Bow Down” by Easy McCoy, Reid Stefan, & City Wolf open.spotify.com/track/0oBR8Sqd5L8GBiCWaIV92T?si=wKbxQRgjQLSI3pfC2rUsOA

@joesalyers Жыл бұрын

Colin Mcdowell has stated himself that the APB EQs are Digital. from tape op, When most folks use outboard analog EQ they are looking for that EQ tone (with) a saturation component to the sound. By leveraging a digital EQ design that is also calibrated/complimentary to a saturation circuit setup in the APB-16, I think we can deliver some cool hybrid EQs to folks.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes also, I believe some of the plugin’s basic gain & volume knobs are “digital” too. It’s incredible having true hybrid processing within digital plugins 🔥

@joesalyers Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic Its a great box I have the APB8 and I love McDSP. The FPGA that controls it all is a very interesting design that allows the same EQ count at all sampling rates. But Kinetic and the Moo Mixer is worth the price period.

@GlacierSound Жыл бұрын

I have one of these bad boys in my studio in Atlanta, they are an absolute dream and I love the moo tube!

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

They let me borrow this unit to review and I didn’t wanna give it back to them 😂

@GlacierSound Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic you should have one, better than the uad stuff plug-in wise. I’m so jealous you and your girl have this awesome business where you get so much nice gear to try out!

@McDSPTV Жыл бұрын

Love the video, Reid! We're so glad you're enjoying the APB 😁

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

It’s my new favorite sauce ✅

@Mix3dbyMark Жыл бұрын

@McDSPTV why no windows?

@McDSPTV Жыл бұрын

@@Mix3dbyMark McDSP is currently focusing on APB product development for macOS. If there is enough interest for APB products on Windows, we will consider it. Thanks for letting us know you're interested in APB support for Windows! 😁

@Mix3dbyMark Жыл бұрын

@@McDSPTV its 2023... there are plenty windows users.

@skykai7813 Жыл бұрын

@@McDSPTV I've been asking for Windows support for years for the APB and you guys give this exact same BS robotic response every single time without fail. Literally copy-paste stuff that feels like I'm talking to an AI robot that isn't gonna do crap about anything. You'd think for a product like the APB that relies so heavily on software you'd make some drivers for Windows users and you'd open yourself up to a whole other market of users.. but damn, only Mac OS in 2023?! Imagine charging the amount you charge for the APB and don't support Windows - yikes!! Listen McDSP, you do understand not every single user is gonna take time out of their day to directly email you and ask for you to add Windows support right? so whatever tally system you're counting up to find out "If there is enough interest for APB products on Windows" is pointless. If people go to purchase the APB but are on a Windows system and find out the APB is Mac OS only they'll just cancel it and go buy something else and you lose out - that's how it works 99% of the time! I've seen crazy amounts of comments asking for Windows for the APB and it's like you guys pretend to not see them and anytime someone does make the extra effort to directly message/email your company you give them this bland robotic response every time. Maybe delete the "we will consider it" part though. I've been waiting long enough to know that's complete lies. I was planning on getting the APB-16 myself and I have the cash right now and was waiting it out hoping to hear any word/hint that this was hopefully in the works and coming in the near future as I really wanted to buy and support this product, but your comment alone tells me nothing at all is being done about it so I'm done waiting and will invest in other gear.

@ndavies8 Жыл бұрын

When initially got this unit a few months ago, I was really skeptical but when I fired it up, I got the same feeling I get when I turn knobs and switches. Definitely a great unit, a bit pricey though

@bigbeastmusicjamaica Жыл бұрын

This video makes me want one now; he explains it perfectly, awesome video.

@djdanger9812 4 ай бұрын

That saturator is incredible, that alone make me want this unit. I can't believe you didn't use the Moo Mixer that thing is no joke! Every channel has a comp and saturator its the sauce.

@digitaldiezel5870 Жыл бұрын

You’re so rich now bro…I can’t relate to these products! Very nice!

@jeracravo Жыл бұрын

Great video! EQs in the ATB are all digital. Only compression and saturation are analog.

@molem348 Жыл бұрын

Oooh you got the 45s! Nice :-)

@mauh_kat Жыл бұрын

Clicked so fast and I don't even have hardware.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

This brings Analog warmth to my heart❤ thanks for watching

@Disisions Жыл бұрын

Finally, can’t wait till UA makes its own version.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

UA is likely more focused on updating their apollos and spark plugins… but I could be wrong! 🤷🏼‍♂️

@lisan_al-ghaib Жыл бұрын

Track has some Black Skinhead vibes. Also, what a setup you got. ATC mains wow.

@elvisjaggerabduljabbar5750 Жыл бұрын

How could I ask a better question in the google search engine to obtain a more accurate search or what websites do you recommend to find a slightly more technical and specialized review on a specific producer or one of his tracks?

@dspoet1 Жыл бұрын

I know this is off topic but did you get rid of the CL1B? I noticed you have a LA2A and 1176 in the rack. What mic you use to record these vocals with?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

I have two rooms and desks. The CL1B is in my vocal studio desk. I use my Sony and telefunken mostly

@djchamilaprabath Жыл бұрын

Wow, you can't get the sound of analog gear from vst, sir, you have to use an analog one to get that quality, right?

@riktascale4 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate all your videos. Question....do you have an independent convertor used for your production and which one if any, or do you use your apollos only?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

APB has it’s own High quality converters built-in for it’s internal conversion needs. When I’m tracking vocals or listening to my speakers I’m simply using the converters in my interface. I own both Apollo and Prism Titan interfaces and use both daily.

@riktascale4 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic Thanks. Can't afford the APB yet so was just interested in the latter which you answered about using your interface for conversion. So apparently the Apollo suit your needs well. I ask because I like how clear your mixes sound.

@djpioneer937 9 ай бұрын

how does the audio get into the box if there aren't any analogue I&Os?

@hughharsher Жыл бұрын

plugins have become so good it's unreal. Sold all my analog gear and guitar amps. Definitely don't see a future in analog hardware anymore - especially given the price point. The roughly 5% aren't worth it imo. Once I got into Universal Audio and Line 6 Helix... never going back :)

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

I agree plug-ins have gotten very good in the past decade… but There’s still hundreds of thousands of producers & engineers today using hybrid workflows. Hybrid products like this are a unique game changer for many 👍

@eltripps9684 Жыл бұрын

I used to swear to use plugins only, but even routing my mixbus through a 20 year old cheap Behringer Eurorack mixer added a tone I just couldn't get. Once I heard how it thickened my bass without making it heavier in the mix, I knew hybrid was going to be my thing. I added a mid-level bus compressor and the analog heat processor and instantly felt like I improved my sound.

@bighousemusic628 Жыл бұрын

Analog is going to be around forever trust me plugins cant and will never replace hardware

@natanjafet8034 5 ай бұрын

Mmmm 🤔 ....

@rosegold-beats 5 ай бұрын

Analog definately has a warmth thats very tough to get digitally

@markszymanski1177 Жыл бұрын

I still like the idea of this but for the price, I'd still much rather have several choice pieces of hardware. Can fill up a lunchbox with some nice stuff... Dealing with IO isnt a big deal to me, but I can see the convenience in this for sure. They do need to update their designs though... screaming 2005

@bisibela Жыл бұрын

i have many 19 inch racks and an apb 16 but my math goes like this - I am deliberately low balling numbers here on the used market all in usd 2 500 series 8 slots racks- $ 1200 16 compressors @ 200 a pop-3200 16 compressors of a different kind say 1176 @ $200- 3200 8 varimu stereo comp- say $400 - 3200 i will stop here cause now the cost is over $10k.. we are not counting the EQs. we havent counted in the analong saturators like 8radial engg space heaters or 16 RND modules for 500 series. APB 16 is less than 10k in usa . the advantage of true analog equipment is monitoring while tracking which cannot be done with current iteration of apb. But you get recall for projects without taking pictures or using many wesaudio modules.

@sancessounds Жыл бұрын

I really hate when plugins don't have output level control. Seriously such a simple and crucial control.

@Chaz_r Жыл бұрын

Interesting, expensive but definitely interesting. Do these plugins run native on your computer or is there processing on the unit?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

No The plugins don’t run “native” on your computer without the APB connected. The plugins are simply control knobs for the physical circuitry inside the Analog Processing Box

@Chaz_r Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic nice!!

@MASS_Studios Жыл бұрын

I just watched Chris mixing Nickleback on URM academy with one Waves SSL channel plugin and thats it. It sound awesome. He didnt used this overiced box. Why should I?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes Plugins sound amazing as I said in the beginning of this video. However, there’s a very good reason that almost every plugin is attempting to “emulate” analog hardware 🤷🏼‍♂️

@MASS_Studios Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic Yeah, but that game is over. Digital won. All major mix gurus are ITB. Why should I go OTB? Workfloow wise? Its funny to me when someone says "If you can mix on the mouse, good for you. I just cant, I need console." Console is 100k and mouse is 20€. Like im shitting money.

@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын

@@MASS_Studios you sound ridiculous. every major mix guru you speak of works with artists that had everything tracked on analog. and they still all sum analog. and they all still route inserts analog. and them giving their names and likenesses to plugins is literally just playing the game because all of their home studios are loaded with every piece of outboard gear known to man. digital won my dick.

@djdanger9812 4 ай бұрын

@@MASS_Studios Everyone forgets those "Major mix gurus" are mixing stems that have already gone through a ton of analog gear during tracking. Pres, Comps, EQs, Tubes, Transformers, Consoles etc before they hit the daw. Listen to the stems they are mixing, a lot can be downloaded to mix yourself. Plugins are amazing and are so much more surgical, but it really depends on the genre of music your mixing. My master bus is mostly analog and its a night and day difference compared to plugins. If it wasn't, trust me id be better off financially.

@meazabiset2781 11 ай бұрын

U are the best

@henri-fillipbauer6579 Жыл бұрын

If I had the money I’d buy it today

@RuzzoLaNota Жыл бұрын

Whats the difference between UAD-2 technology?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

UAD is purely software emulations. APB is actually analog circuitry

@DjBydLo Жыл бұрын

I dont understand, i speak sincerely, the unit is analog and it comes with 12 effects, but you can add new ones via software? wouldnt it need a real new analog device to add a new effects?, and how a multiband analog compressor works? would`nt it take a dedicated compressor for each band? so the unit has one analog compressor circuit for each channel, but then everychannel has multiband compressor, so it has like 3 or 4 extra compressors each channel?

@McDSPTV Жыл бұрын

Hi there! Each of the APB plug-ins utilize the analog components within the APB in a different way. That's how we're able to have multiple APB compression plug-ins, for example, and have them all sound different. Regarding multi-band functionality: Each band of our multi-band compressor utilizes a channel on the APB. That's why a mono instance uses 3 channels, while a stereo instance uses 6. I hope this clears things up!

@Mix3dbyMark Жыл бұрын

So with this box... is this aliasing-free saturation?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes 👍 there’s no digital aliasing in analog saturation

@Mix3dbyMark Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic well that's a game changer... But there is ADC and DAC happening, I suppose that's where aliasing fold back could occur but I guess they've thought of everything

@ordinarymonster1187 Жыл бұрын

I think they are not 100% analog as what i remembered? even though it's definitely a top tier hybrid sound. Honestly I wish they could release a clipper plugin in this way.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes however It’s analog where/when it needs to be. Some of the volume and gain knobs are just digital volume controls. It’s a perfect hybrid! Also that clipper idea would be amazing 🔥

@ordinarymonster1187 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic yeah honestly I appreciate what they did on EQ, I only want the saturation from analog circuits but not the laplace transforms eq adjustments, never thought they solved this dilemma in this way. speaking of this can they add a couple of valves and transformers in next generation?...

@devinkei1469 Жыл бұрын

Does the apb box work in ableton with the apb mono instances? Because I know ableton doesn't use mono channels

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes

@devinkei1469 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusicawesome 👌

@gear7057 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic Are you sure about that? Last I checked APB could only run stereo instances in Ableton.

@gear7057 Жыл бұрын

Ableton can't run mono instances of APB plugins as Ableton doesnt have the ability to have mono channels as you said. In the video he uses only 8 APB plugins and maxxes out the 16 APB channels, despite some of the sounds being mono in nature such as the vocals. So you are limited to 8 stereo instances no matter if your sounds are mono or stereo by nature.

@rayNmanMusic808 Жыл бұрын

I was told it is really buggy though. I think someone should do a focus video on that. For example I had to take the iRig Keys 2 Pro 37(In your video) back to Sam Ash because the 37th key was loose and the USB 'mini" connection kept going to sleep making me unplug then plug to wake it up. No video on that but the comments are plenty! 🤔

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

My iRig Keys 2 keyboard hasn’t glitched or broke yet! I’ve had mine for 6 months

@GlacierSound Жыл бұрын

We’ll whoever told you was wrong I’ve had one for 2 years and it’s great.

@rayNmanMusic808 Жыл бұрын

@@GlacierSound Thanks great to hear!

@rayNmanMusic808 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic Ihad the small and the full sized and they both disconnected while I was making YT videos. Good to hear you are getting results

@rayNmanMusic808 Жыл бұрын

@@GlacierSound I'm in Atlanta let's link so I can see it merge with the MPCX. I'm on the verge of getting one

@beats9711 Жыл бұрын

Kayne wests long lost brother on the song lol

@beatkillazmuzik Жыл бұрын

Can you use this in any Daw?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes the plugins are VST, AU, AAX, VST3

@JayfkProductions876 Жыл бұрын

I've really never understood the science behind this unit. They're plugins but they're also Analog?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes the plugins are simply controls for the physical analog circuitry inside the green box. It’s the best of both worlds

@TheOfficialSiNN 8 ай бұрын

On Sweetwater it say this requires Pro crap tools to use. Your obviously using it in live. So I’m a bit confused. Does this work with other Daws or did they change it to work in shit tools only?

@ReidStefanMusic 8 ай бұрын

Sweetwater is outdated/incorrect info. APB Works in any DAW

@heiseye4139 Жыл бұрын

A whole rack in one unit I’m such a junkie 🤤

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

It’s A beautiful, lean, green, mean machine ✅

@MustacheVerra Жыл бұрын

You deserve a sub just for the puppet?

@molem348 Жыл бұрын

Personal Jesus vibes

@d-zone 6 ай бұрын

still no PC compatibility, that makes it a toy in my eyes.

@ronaldirawan3643 Жыл бұрын

3:18 i just dont get it.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

When They release new APB plugins, APB owners get access to them immediately

@ronaldirawan3643 Жыл бұрын

@@ReidStefanMusic The analog component cant be upgraded by update the software right?!

@Rhuggins Жыл бұрын

Need windows 🥲

@timpioHH Жыл бұрын

Sorry, but where is your Intro?

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

See my previous upload 😂👍

@rosegold-beats 5 ай бұрын

So you can only use mcdsp plugins? Thats stupid

@ReidStefanMusic 5 ай бұрын

Only McDsp Plugins were designed to control the analog circuitry inside the APB16. It’s not an external box of generic computer processors like UAD Satellite. It’s actual analog circuitry inside the green box

@db4ks 9 ай бұрын

$6,000 bucks???? i thought it was be $700 at the most! for that price i could just buy an avalon 737 or another good channel strip and more

@ReidStefanMusic 9 ай бұрын

A channel strip is just one mono channel. This is 16 channels which means up at 8 stereo signals can be processed simultaneously

@TheVillageRuse Жыл бұрын

7. Thousand. Dolla.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Many famous analog gears also cost $7,000 but only offer you 1 or 2 channels. The APB provides 16 channels for the same price 👍

@willsantos3781 Жыл бұрын

7k? yikes.

@chillwalker Жыл бұрын

0:31 A Roland Fantom is as analog as your Dad's CD Player.... lol ANALOG DOES NOT MEAN DAWless.

@ReidStefanMusic Жыл бұрын

Yes the Fantom is Digital. The Juno is Analog 👍

@raztube90 Жыл бұрын

100% chatgpt wrote this 😂

@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын

lol. this is just a commercial for mcdsp. being a youtuber has its perks.

@Rhythmattica Жыл бұрын

You know its been a few years its been available for? Well the 16 first.. Theres a lot of reviewers and USERS out there, that understand the "Perks" of the box.... This hasn't come out of no where..... And yes.. a YT does have its perks... Actually getting to try it out.... Its not like you can download the demo.... LOL You missed from the hip.

@FromTheHipp Жыл бұрын

@@Rhythmattica nah you missed. get off of his dick.