Mike and Ryan discuss the Analogue Super Nt. Read Mike's Blog www.mikematei.... Ryan Twitter / schottr #retro #retrogaming #nes #snes #jamesrolfe #mikematei #atari #playthrough #gameplay #gamereview
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@PositronPlays6 жыл бұрын
This seems like a fantastic piece of hardware. Glad they were able to bring the price down for the Super Nt. Still not exactly cheap, but definitely reasonable for a system of that caliber. Thanks for showing this off!
@CarsonsChannel6 жыл бұрын
Is $40 domestic shipping reasonable? Controller not included.
@ge46 жыл бұрын
That's the issue with small companies, the can't compete with big ones when it comes to pricing.
@David-px6yu5 жыл бұрын
@19RocknRolla91 no, it isn't, ryan
@David-px6yu5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how literally the only positive comment was pinned
@piccolothegreat22 Жыл бұрын
positrons move through reality
@silviustro16 жыл бұрын
"Electrons move through reality" -Ryan
@EdwarioERS6 жыл бұрын
Electrons need to move through the universe to be authentic. - This Video
@paintbrush93043 жыл бұрын
Sick fucken profile picture ✌️ &💚
@tituswayne6326 жыл бұрын
Ryan was probably the kid in school who told everyone he had an uncle who works for Nintendo
@inoshikachokonoyarobakayar24934 жыл бұрын
😂 everybody knew "that kid."
@nubianprincessqueenofsaba23425 ай бұрын
Funny because his uncle had really worked at nintendo
@holographictacosalad4 жыл бұрын
2:23 You're welcome.
@NTRisforthinkers6 жыл бұрын
>EMULATING ELECTRONS THROUGH REALITY
@JackBetts556 жыл бұрын
It's actually amazing how little these guys know about this
@alexl.43623 жыл бұрын
How does it work then
@elirhoades94183 жыл бұрын
@@alexl.4362 Is this guy making videos on the internet trying to explain this to people?
@alexl.43623 жыл бұрын
@@elirhoades9418 Yes.
@Halbmond4 жыл бұрын
Ryan sounds like me in high school when I learned for a topic by just memorizing data points without really understanding it.
@gmzplayer6 жыл бұрын
Dude that was the worst explanation on why physical hardware is better than emulation. Did he say electrons?
@allangoncalves14533 жыл бұрын
through reality
@cody88046 жыл бұрын
I would love for someone to make a video where Ryan has to guess if the games he is watching is emulated or not
@usagijojo26 жыл бұрын
It'd be like the perfect response to their "You can't tell the difference between PS4 Pro / Xbox One X and the original consoles" videos, lol.
@usagijojo26 жыл бұрын
I mean if these guys can't see the difference in higher res textures, better shadows, higher resolution, (sometimes) higher framerates, etc., then how could they ever hope to spot emulated vs. non-emulated SNES? Even this emulation console itself has them fooled.
@brandon92716 жыл бұрын
Usagi Jojo it's not an emulation console. FPGA isn't emulation at all.
@sarowie6 жыл бұрын
+brando92711 how do you classify FPGAs? It is not the real, original SNES hardware either. It is not even clone hardware. All the FPGA is doing is pretending to be parts of the SNES hardware like the CPU. This will be imperfect in its own ways - some very exotic hardware might not work with this because of some obscure undocumented feature. Then we have parts that are different by design and intention - the colors of this System are not "true NTSC" colors presented on a CRT in a Japanese official cubical of the era.
@mirabilis6 жыл бұрын
You can tell by the electrons.
@Horzuhammer6 жыл бұрын
There's a lot of ridicule, but I get it. I can't fully enjoy my games either without the electrons going the right way.
@steeltalon23566 жыл бұрын
Am I out of touch? No... No it is the electrons who are wrong.
@RetroUnlim6 жыл бұрын
It's the Acorn Electrons
@KnuckleHunkybuck6 жыл бұрын
I can never get my electrons to behave correctly. Curse this imperfect physical universe! The only thing in our imperfect universe that can get those unpredictable electrons to fall in line is the FPGA, which programs itself to -emulate- mimic the actual electrical pathways in a Super Nintendo.
@johnnybgoode33514 жыл бұрын
Lol..its not hard to see that these clowns aren't electrical engineers
@Mr.Morden6 жыл бұрын
Wow Ryan doesn't understand. "Electrons flow through reality" lol wtf man
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
It's called a metaphor...
@riddleiddle6 жыл бұрын
What he is trying to explain is genuine, He just doesn't know the technical terms. It would be difficult for anyone to express in a video like this.
@diegog18535 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with Math Helper, i don't know why people mock him so much for that, maybe they didn't understand what he was trying to say? He is saying that software can't emulate perfectly a physical electronic array. And if its more and more complex then its more and more difficult to emulate and the mistakes are more noticeable. People that disagree with that are simply wrong, thats just a scientific truth.
@David-px6yu5 жыл бұрын
@@diegog1853 you're both ryan's extra accounts
@andrelegeant886 жыл бұрын
I use a Super Nintendo on a CRT with S-cable. It looks fantastic. This appears to be the best way to experience a SNES game in 1080p, but these games were not designed for 1080p. The visual quality on a good CRT is the best way to experience SNES games.
@moralapostel6 жыл бұрын
"B...b...but the electrons move differently". This has got to be the biggest snake-oil bullshit I've ever heard. An SNES is a computer, it has transistors, that are either 1 or 0. It's digital. If you simulate the entire machine state of an SNES you can replicate a 1:1 SNES in software, no matter how electrons flow. Don't even get me started about audio. Of course Emulators don't play mp3 files, they play the original SMC sound files and simulate the SNES soundchip.
@mourasantos6 жыл бұрын
There's just no possible way you can replicate the way electrons move through reality.
@alexl.43623 жыл бұрын
Sure there is.
@FyreJams6 жыл бұрын
This video got me more negatively charged than an electron
@McBoccher6 жыл бұрын
Only science people will understand
@squidwardstesticles59146 жыл бұрын
ElPenguinMann only people with a middle school level education will understand
@McBoccher6 жыл бұрын
Squidward's Testicles shhhh
@skins4thewin6 жыл бұрын
Lol why?
@skins4thewin6 жыл бұрын
They are coming out with an RGB adapter for the Super NT. That alone has me considering getting this.
@merlingt16 жыл бұрын
You should stay away from technical videos.
@alexl.43626 жыл бұрын
Why
@Patrick-sf4ss6 жыл бұрын
If you don't get it pumping to 1.21 jigawatts and re-atomizing through the third stratosphere of time uniracers just won't be the same. Lol
@ManEaterBrainBug6 жыл бұрын
"It's naat emulation! It's naaaat! Oh, hi mike!"
@KnuckleHunkybuck6 жыл бұрын
"Oh, you reviewed all my favorite games. Good thinking!"
@legacyteam55816 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with Chun Li she said that I DP + P her!
@RandomTwat6 жыл бұрын
"You always play technologist with us"
@xdagmarxb5486 жыл бұрын
Was this video made by LJN?
@alexl.43626 жыл бұрын
Yes
@uglesovs4836 жыл бұрын
What???
@alexl.43626 жыл бұрын
@@uglesovs483 Yes
@AxelStone6 жыл бұрын
to be honest, these two guys are not appealing at all to me and they explain these technical specs so bad.. and not even correctly since it *is* emulation nonetheless
@brandon92716 жыл бұрын
Axel Stone but it isn't emulation. Emulators translate the code whereas FPGA based systems run it natively by basically reconfiguring an array of transistors into the same configuration as the original hardware.
@AxelStone6 жыл бұрын
brando92711 As far as I know FPGA is hardware-emulation and for instance the system on a chip stuff is software emulation (running with some linux frontend) I could be wrong ofcourse
@amirpourghoureiyan16376 жыл бұрын
Axel Stone not to beat a dead horse but I'd say it's more imitation in the sense of being a true clone of the processor than a system that runs code emulating software
@HartwellSecurity6 жыл бұрын
It may give you a better experience than a software emulator, but this is honestly the definition of emulation. Wikipedia: "In computing, an emulator is hardware or software that enables one computer system (called the host) to behave like another computer system (called the guest). " I agree with Axel on this. If you want the real deal buy the original hardware. The FPGA in these systems could ACTUALLY just be ripping a ROM from the cartridge and running an emulator, who can accurately say otherwise unless you reverse engineer the mini nt/super nt?
@captain31866 жыл бұрын
FPGA cannot operate without Software telling it what to do. It's Emulation
@WhiteboyUltima6 жыл бұрын
The Analogue Super NT: ELECTRONS MOVING THROUGH REALITY - Ryan, Cinemassacre 2018
@flowerpower1116 жыл бұрын
mike looks like bart simpson
@Shabnock6 жыл бұрын
eat my shorts
@pete24553 жыл бұрын
Like a mix of Bart simpson and some kind of haunted weasel
@eof62702 жыл бұрын
The classic that started it all
@livvy946 жыл бұрын
Sounds like someone tried ZSNES in 1993. Sound emulation has been fine for ages now
@brandon28026 жыл бұрын
At least Mike doesn't pretend to know what he's talking about. If Ryan wants to b.s. while high sure whatever, but at least put a disclaimer that he doesn't actually know much about the topic.
@matohibiki6 жыл бұрын
Ryan looks like he's caught the flu or something.
@devilxking26 жыл бұрын
8 and 16-bit emulation is pretty fucking accurate these days.
@PmmSoares6 жыл бұрын
The thing is, many games were played using tricks. Perfect emulations is a way to play those games without using tricks. For example Pinball Deluxe for GB is a perfect example of this, only some time ago we were able to play it without using tricks. For example PCSX2 is an example of emulator that uses many tricks to get the games running, they run but isn't perfect emulation. You need to know the difference of playable of perfect emulation.
@RandomTwat6 жыл бұрын
Axel Janes You clearly don't know what "perfect" means. Yes, when it comes to NES, SNES and Genesis games, they have been playable on emulators for the most part even in the late 90s, but perfect? Hell no, not even the virtual console is perfectly accurate. ZSNES and Kgen are just emulators that were considered "good enough" for the time but now they're extremely outdated and very far from "perfectly accurate".
@RandomTwat6 жыл бұрын
Axel Janes What the hell is your deal? Calling some people who like accuracy in emulation virgins and sadists, what the hell have they done to you? Have they broken into your house and stole your belongings or something? Also no, ZSNES is not perfect, ZSNES is garbage by today's standards anyone can notice the difference from just trying it for a few seconds. Just so you know, there also exist versions of Bsnes that target performance, and there is also Snes9X. You seem to not know what you're talking about and you can't carry on a discussion without calling names.
@RandomTwat6 жыл бұрын
Axel James You're the one who should lighten up here, since you seem to throw tantrums over people simply using bsnes. Also no, that's not the biggest flaw of ZSNES. The biggest flaw of ZSNES is that games are buggy and some even just plain crash, sound is terribly emulated and some games don't even have sound due to that. ZSNES is outdated trash, it hasn't been updated for years. Higan and SNES9X are the only great choices for SNES emulation as of now, you have to either be an idiot or really misinformed if you still stick to using ZSNES and actually believe it's perfect emulation.
@nintendo1889x6 жыл бұрын
Lol Zsnes, far from "good" but keep being delusional
@Orchestructive6 жыл бұрын
Is this video satire?
@wildgun956 жыл бұрын
SavingPrincess its ignorance
@craigjuan57445 жыл бұрын
@@wildgun95 yeah? How so?
@wildgun955 жыл бұрын
@@craigjuan5744 Just watch the video, both are talking out of their asses
@alexl.43623 жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@alejorag6 жыл бұрын
Should have put a disclaimer at the beginning of the video saying "Ryan literally knows NOTHING about emulation at all". I hope no one watches this and "learns" what Ryan said and go around repeating it when arguing.
@SefyZero6 жыл бұрын
"I tried an emulator once, 10 years ago, but it wasn't 100% perfect so I stuck with cartridges" Well hello from 2018, where we have Higan that is basically a perfect copy of a SNES, or Dolphin that are capable that rendering (not upscalling) Wii games on 1080p, something even the real console can't.
@alexandrebouvier77316 жыл бұрын
I used nestopia and snes9x since many years ago, I switched to Mesen (nes) and Higan (snes) and these emulators are really really reallllly accurates.
@byobnaf6 жыл бұрын
(Mike makes sexual joke about throbbing) (Ryan pauses, clearly not understanding, and then continues to make point albeit a little flustered)
@marcusross27376 жыл бұрын
How is playing SNES games at 1080p on hardware not made by Nintendo more accurate to "the way it was intended to be played"? Fuck off with the Framemeister and everything else; original Nintendo hardware is the "authentic" experience, and everything else is no better than software emulation.
@TechnoHobo3036 жыл бұрын
Phrase of the year: "electrons.... move through reality..."
@mother-fng-bonswa36126 жыл бұрын
Emulators do not play mp3s. that was such a dumb statement. They use the midi channels or other audio drivers programmed in the emulator so its direct audio, like the actual hw.
@JVenom6 жыл бұрын
Some (later CD based emulators, mainly) do. Cartridge based emulation though? No. That's stupid.
@tomjung49606 жыл бұрын
Can confirm. For PC Engine CD images I've seen .ape, .flac and even .ogg in place of the CD audio, but I'm not too bothered if the .flac is accurately ripped and has all the meta data included in a text file, ideally.
@mstandish6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he said that. Most of the music was written with a midi setup and copied over. Ryan makes it sounds like the system is playing a song like a musician plays an instrument.
@BigMacIIx6 жыл бұрын
J Venom it a programmed FPGA, it simulate at the signal level. You should check the FPGA player kevtris have made, search it on KZfaq
@NopeNaw6 жыл бұрын
J Venom, if an emulator plays an mp3, then the original hardware does as well.
@fallis076 жыл бұрын
As a chemistry student I can say Ryan has no clue what he's talking about when it comes to electrons LOL
@XOmniverse6 жыл бұрын
They do move through reality; he's right about that.
They're just fans of the hardware. I would be gushing over it in a video if I had one.
@CaptainCafe6 жыл бұрын
“The people who built this, built it to emulate... mimic.... I won’t say emulate”
@NaikoArt6 жыл бұрын
my answer would be "so...emulate."
@bigballrecall3 жыл бұрын
Do you understand FPGA by now?
@kosmosyche6 жыл бұрын
SNES software emulation has been cycle accurate for quite a while now. Basically, with emulators such as Bsnes or Higan you'll get exactly the same result as on a real SNES. Not that FPGA SNES machine isn't impressive, just wanted to correct your outdated info. And I understand that some people prefer hardware and real cartridges and all that. But it's one thing to prefer something, another thing is to say everything else is somehow worse, because it's not true. Objectively, at this point software emulation of SNES is just as good as any hardware FPGA emulation.
@charvelgtrs6 жыл бұрын
In terms of accuracy, sure, but in terms of playability hell no. The input lag on software emulators ruins the experience. With FPGA there is no inherent input lag, just whatever lag your TV has. There are TVs out there with under 1 frame of lag these days, so with the Super NT and the right TV you can much closer to CRT level low input lag
@mattmungrin47926 жыл бұрын
Im waiting for the day I can play SMW accurately on an HDTV. That day might be coming soon thanks to analogue.
@kosmosyche6 жыл бұрын
Turrican4D Like they did with Dolphin, which can be configured to have less input-lag than a real GameCube / Wii even on CRT.
@kosmosyche6 жыл бұрын
GNJK Nah, it actually plays more or less the same and looks better, if you dispose of all the metaphysics and religious feelings towards the real hardware.
@Belgiumdoesnotkickas6 жыл бұрын
Ofcourse and what they're saying applied to old hardware back in the day over 10 years ago. Times have changed
@Postaldude20032 жыл бұрын
When I grow up, I wanna be mike matei.
@SpikeKastleman6 жыл бұрын
Man... Fatboy is sure in LOVE with Mike.
@KeithRozett6 жыл бұрын
"The way it was intended to be played." *plugs a cartridge into a device made well after the lifetime of the SNES*
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
It's the fact of putting a cart into a device, doesn't matter what console.
@waterheart956 жыл бұрын
Snes emulation has gotten perfect accuracy and the input lag from emulation has even seen a wide reduction to zero like in Dolphin or reduction to at most one frame of lag in retroarch for cores. The best way to reduce or eliminate input lag for snes or other systems is to use a linux distro in kms mode using retroarch that is properly setup or use retroarch with a non crap tv or a crt display.
@Norweeg3 жыл бұрын
I know I’m replying to a 3 year old comment, but you’re right. On top of that, turning on run-ahead in Retroarch now has emulation to the point that it literally has less lag than an actual console. Combine that with the higan core for SNES and it provides perfect emulation. I still prefer my Analogue Super NT along with my FX Pak Pro though. The hardware is just fun to use.
@poble2 жыл бұрын
that sounds like way too much hassle
@Corad46 жыл бұрын
That's a neat little device, but I Ryan got almost everything wrong about emulators.
@laharl2k6 жыл бұрын
Ok guys, its "hardware" and shit, but it doesnt stand when TASBot actually works on the real hardware. That means, the emulator was EXACTLY THE SAME as the actual hardware. Electrons moving in reality dont change the result because its digital, the "FPGA is just a gimmick. The FPGA doesnt become a SNES, FPGAs cant emulate analog hardware, you cant emulate an opamp on a FPGA, or a delay line. Sorry to break your "hardware" fantasy but a FPGA is only better than an emulator performance wise. I agree with you that having the cartridge and the console and all that is an experience, its like going to a concert vs listening to your mp3 player, but i assure you that FPGA is just an emulator, it emulates the original because FPGAs cant do analog stuff, it cant copy the flaws in the originals which were caused by faults in the photolitography process or bugs in the chip design.
@Gibber6666 жыл бұрын
@anaesthetics Still everything else he said is true...
@laharl2k6 жыл бұрын
@anaesthetics well, that's audiophile territory, but they arent called audiophiles for no reason, and studies have shown they cant actually differentiate between loseless and an mp3@256kbps Regarding emulation my poiint is that, that its still just an emulator, its not "hardware" magic like he portraits it. Having the real hardware is akind to considering yourself an audiophile, it's not suddenly better just because it looks like so to you, that's why i say the FPGA is just a gimmick designed to cather to the "hardware"-philes.
@willcamick6 жыл бұрын
This feels like a Infomercial. ROFL!
@RebelChumps6 жыл бұрын
IT is, they are hardselling this shit.
@goon55446 жыл бұрын
It really is that awesome if you are into authentic retro gaming like me, them and people like us
@ToolShopGuy6 жыл бұрын
Love you guys. But come on. Look at this video compared to My Life In Gaming's about this system. Night and day. What I imagine they do is smoke a lot of weed, sit down and turn the camera on, have nothing pre-planned, nothing written out or scripted, and just wing it with completely wrong information, and then just think Ah we're Cinemassacre so tons of people are going to view this anyway
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
Just like they usually do, why are you surprised?
@HiGregory6 жыл бұрын
Electrons like move through reality man.
@djphildeez63576 жыл бұрын
I just cannt watch a Cinemassacare video without James in it.. Mikes know-it-all stuck up attitude almost makes me wanna unsubscribe. I just cannot stand his face lol
@ethankapolis6 жыл бұрын
So don't. Why are you here if the title literally says it's just Mike and Ryan? To shit out a negative comment? That's nice and productive.
@djphildeez63576 жыл бұрын
ethankapolis criticism is productive.
@ethankapolis6 жыл бұрын
Dj Phildeez Totally, but that wasn't constructive criticism. More just you hating on someone, and if you already know you don't like a certain person or type of content just fuckin don't watch it man.
@zakwan106 жыл бұрын
I see this video being used in a future one called: Episodes We Regret
@lasseberg73176 жыл бұрын
somebody should explain them how a fpga works :)
@LeaningTowerOfCheese6 жыл бұрын
Lasse Berg so go ahead. Enlighten us.
@slimybakertv6 жыл бұрын
Sorta like an emulator?
@KashouWannabe6 жыл бұрын
Offtopic kinda: As a UK SNES owner from the year of release ('92, right?) the "Famicom" design for the European SNES just gives a warm feeling in my soul. But, I always thought the US SNES design and colouring was pretty cool. Did anyone else have similar feelings?
@Luminousplayer6 жыл бұрын
the argument vs emulation is just wrong, cinemassacre as a whole has the one flaw of being extremely adamant vs emulation with absurd statements. Some emulators are better than others at handling various things, there's pretty much no excuse to bash emulation nowadays besides having some console under your TV or using specific accessories, like wanting to use the NES light gun for duck hunt. I know you guys "really" appreciate your consoles, i do too, but the bashing vs emulation is totally uncalled for.
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
They obviously don't have much experience with emulation.
@captain31866 жыл бұрын
I see this in a lot of collectors and I think it's mostly to prop up their ego's and justify the insane amounts of money they have blown on collections of games and hardware/setups. I think they feel as though their investments and self worth are threatened by the ability to just download and play the games they have spent so much money on lol. I'm totally fine with however somebody want's to play their games but before I'll personally take someone's criticism on how I play my games I expect them to at least have some knowledge to backup their arguments. This felt more like an Infomercial to me than someone who has actual knowledge about the subject.
@dragonkxvids6 жыл бұрын
States it's not emulation, follows with, it mimics a snes........dude, that's emulation lol.
@mrcharliekane6 жыл бұрын
"it's not emulation it's a chip that acts like a super nintendo" nice lot of buzzwords and prior used arguments this video was bad
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
Emulation is referenced as "emulated through software" which is not the case with this console, hence why he mention that it's not emulation. Yes, if you read the definition of emulation it also include hardware but that's not the popular definition of the word emulation.
@globalmedicinalmarijuana57576 жыл бұрын
FPGA's use software (Verilog) to program them into acting like the SNES' 65C816 processor. It's emulation.
@mlmskates4 жыл бұрын
@@Warrax22 When I was a kid, they argued about the dangers of children emulating the moves in Mortal Kombat. My point is that the true definition of emulation is not specific to any one thing, and you're all fools.
@dunka126 жыл бұрын
Mike, many of us don´t have access to some garage sale, or retro stores. Most of the world is not that full of old console cartridges to get. It´s a pain in the ass, extra expensive to import or impossible. So yeah...it´s not always an option.
@tko40516 жыл бұрын
but they go on how bad emulators are. How dare you person in 2nd and 3rd world countries use an emulator - Mike Matei. Sorry they don't have it as perfect as you, Mike.
@jubjub4446 жыл бұрын
Ebay
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
Mark Curtis You sure don't watch his many playthrought, that's ok...keep being arrogant.
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
Shaka12 Mike is speaking for himself, you don't have to take what he says personally...keep using your ROMs and emulator or buy an Everdrive and play ROMs on a real SNES.
@RebelChumps6 жыл бұрын
holyshit these guys were just talking hot air, really had no clue wtf they were hardselling..
@Michaelrandom276 жыл бұрын
james jdh "Electrons move through reality" lmao
@Kikkoman856 жыл бұрын
Comparing Super NT to ZSNES from 10 years ago is unfair, especially with how awesome projects like Higan are doing.
@user-dc1ud6px3s5 жыл бұрын
Never fly in a jet airliner, it isn't flight the way the Wright brothers intended.
@barbarianscum4926 жыл бұрын
You guys look like Burt n Ernie :)
@Metalwario646 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand the point of hardware cloning, when we're in an age of Nestopia and BSNES offering 100% cycle accurate emulation. If you want the nostalgic experience, you'll want the original hardware.
@BigMacIIx6 жыл бұрын
No emulator offert 100% perfect timing, cycle accuracy only apply on emulated CPU part, video, sound and IO synchronisation and timing are faked by software.
@Warrax226 жыл бұрын
BSNES sure is convenient to use...not.
@globalmedicinalmarijuana57576 жыл бұрын
Nestopia is only about 80% accurate at the best. You'll want puNES or Mesen for 100% accuracy on the NES. You're correct about BSNES/Higan being accurate, though. After all, byuu helped with the Super NT's design.
@BigMacIIx6 жыл бұрын
Global Medicinal Marijuana once again, emulator can only pretend cycle accuracy on code execution, they can’t do anything about input and output lag induced by the operating systems overhead, nor they can accurately replicate precise signal timing and often shows as sound, dma or video glitches. Fun facts: FPGA are use for prototyping chips. Argonauts who has created the Super FX chips for Nintendo back then have used an FPGA for prototype and test hardware design.
@JaredConnell3 жыл бұрын
6:09 my reaction to this video
@somestranger-_-6 жыл бұрын
Can't finish this video. Sorry fellas.
@CJMoody6 жыл бұрын
This is sounding a lot like those arguments from people who insist on listening to their music on Vinyl records.
@SN1PERx646 жыл бұрын
So weird. It's like listening to a pc elitist argument... for a console...
@laith_iris6 жыл бұрын
Just to make things clear: FPGAs ARE emulation. If the code used on the fpga emulates the console accurately, a software emulator using the same code will do the same thing the same way, just a bit slower
@JIAroJIy46 жыл бұрын
Sionyn Jones considering that games were developed using computers, not the consoles, maybe except old stuff like atari 2600 which had cartridges where you could write down some programs to run
@Night_A6 жыл бұрын
+Laith Iris FPGA-based retro consoles are essentially hardware emulators, as opposed to software emulators that are common on most platforms. They don't implement the "same code" but rather the same operations used by the system that's being emulated. An FPGA uses VHDL programmed gate-arrays (literally physical hardware logic), while software emulators are sets of programs that run on top of some other existing platform (e.g ARM, x86 etc'). Unlike software, an efficient enough implementation in direct hardware can potentially give way better performance for some systems, where software can end up becoming limited to some degree. So yes, while both do the same thing, they're technically quite different.
@laith_iris6 жыл бұрын
Night Yes, they are more efficient, but not more accurate. This thing doesnt offer anything that higan doesnt have
@Night_A6 жыл бұрын
+Laith Iris Like with any emulator, it all depends on the implementation. In the specific case of the Super NT that might be true, but in theory, an FPGA emulator that's truly done right can potentially be way more accurate than even a good software emulator like Higan.
@sarowie6 жыл бұрын
+ Laith Iris "more accurate" comes down to the amount of polish spend in the implementation. Both emulators and FPGAs run into trouble, when games are using undocumented features of the chip set. An FPGA has deterministic timing on its side - but the only reason a computer can not do that is the operating system.
@TheSleepJunkie6 жыл бұрын
Video game snobs...
@cubeflinger6 жыл бұрын
I love retro nostalgia but there is something in me that digsusts me about these new consoles. I dunno. Maybe I was abused by a game gear or something.
@Lalo-dh8xq6 жыл бұрын
I like my scan lines as deep as they can go.
@Terranigma846 жыл бұрын
the 2 guys like crack a litlle to much.
@DaysWithoutSun.6 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about this, but I'm getting that feeling that these guys don't either lol. It's like they smoked a bunch of pot and decided to turn on the camera and just wing it. It's funny to me, it gives me "Jay and Silent Bob-esk" feeling of comedy.
@derp68786 жыл бұрын
“Electrons... move through reality.”
@legendarymooseman6 жыл бұрын
Its not emulation, its not playing it off the cartridge but its just reading the rom files. Isn't that emulation?
@DaysWithoutSun.6 жыл бұрын
Ian Lundquist Lmao! 😂😂😂
@shirrick6 жыл бұрын
Now I can see that those videos about Crossy Road or Vikings the Screaming Face App Store Game weren't that bad, actually. They had their facts right.
@donpalmera6 жыл бұрын
Software could be more *accurate* than any piece of hardware. Hardware has "tolerances". I.e. no SNES runs at exactly the spec'd frequency. As the hardware ages that's going to get worse. An FPGA is still a simulation.. if you're going to get butt hurt over the *realness* of emulators then an FPGA is just as bad.
@wildgun956 жыл бұрын
donpalmera actually worse because it costs $$
@gamedesignandps4play4765 жыл бұрын
Have you played something like Super Punch Out with FPGA vs emulation to feel the difference? Timing feels off in many emulations, especially GMA ones.
@TooManyBoxes6 жыл бұрын
ELECTRON BLAST PROCESSING
@dude4646 жыл бұрын
what a cute lesbian couple
@drywater22286 ай бұрын
Hits a lot harder in 2024
@Scanlaid6 жыл бұрын
>sees ryan *closes video*
@franwex6 жыл бұрын
>sees ryan *massages testicles*
@This-country-sucks-46 жыл бұрын
Lmao. True
@headbangermetal59296 жыл бұрын
Poor ryan
@reddarkness85936 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with Mike when he says only using cartridges. I too enjoy the collecting and maintenance for them.
@Capsulecorp16 жыл бұрын
Over exaggeration big time also that sound chip was made by Sony not Nintendo.
@jameshetfieldserbia6 жыл бұрын
'over exaggeration' is an oxymoron
@docotrot12526 жыл бұрын
jameshetfieldserbia No, it's a pleonasm.
@jameshetfieldserbia6 жыл бұрын
Jesuto Nai yea u r right
@Joeybsmooth6 жыл бұрын
These guys sound like Sommeliers (Wine Experts), just with the snobbery aimed at emulation.
@MitchCrane6 жыл бұрын
If you really care about perfect emulation then you wouldn't play on an LCD via HDMI.
@David-px6yu5 жыл бұрын
@VideoGamePlayer okay ryan lmao
@mindofmayhem.6 жыл бұрын
Emulation is light years ahead of anything you've shown as far as hardware.
@thesupernintendoguy76796 жыл бұрын
I think Mike wants to play real cartridges because he can spend money. If you put Contra 3 on an SD card in the system and hide it from sight, you would not be able to tell cartridge from rom.
@JamesNintendoNerd6 жыл бұрын
Perhaps not. Never said I could always tell the difference. I can sometimes though, like if it's bad emulation. Like for example I could tell if it was the Retron 5. But not having the cart takes away the fun of collecting the games, which is a large part of it that I enjoy. -Mike
@thesupernintendoguy76796 жыл бұрын
Cinemassacre Well then I think there’s only one option... blind play test video. Do it Mike!!!!
@RetroReflux6 жыл бұрын
It’s still a form of emulation, it’s a console emulating a snes console, it’s not a Nintendo SNES
@videogameobsession6 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these, but to play devil's advocate, one could use their classic systems, but an OSSC (line doubler) for way less than a Framemeister, and the good thing about going this route is that it will benefit all of your classic consoles, instead of JUST the SNES.
@charvelgtrs6 жыл бұрын
OSSC doesn't offer 5x 6x scaling and you are still converting analog to digitial where as the Super NT is purely digital. So less noise and most likely cleaner audio.
@charvelgtrs6 жыл бұрын
Its a quality device.
@phonzeh6 жыл бұрын
Did they finally fix OSSC for SNES output?
@charvelgtrs6 жыл бұрын
What was the issue with SNES?
@phonzeh6 жыл бұрын
I remember it had a lot of issues with different TV setups for some reason. If you google it you'll find out about it immediately. It looks like they did attempt to fix it, but still not fully compatible with all TV's for some reason.
@deemster42496 жыл бұрын
SNES Classic: Official Nintendo product, comes with all the best games Analogue Super NT: Bootleg product, comes with hundreds of menu settings
@medotaku93606 жыл бұрын
Why would I buy one of these if I already own a working snes?
@rsmith025 жыл бұрын
HDMI HD TV will look soft and have lag.
@KWKBOX6 жыл бұрын
This could have been so much better if you guys dressed up like Tim and Al from Tool Time.
@chuckzom79476 жыл бұрын
I'll just play NES games on a real NES and SNES games on a real SNES.
@cody88046 жыл бұрын
I think emulation is fine. The minuscule reasons to spend hundreds of dollars (or thousands) more to have "the authentic experience" isn't worth it. Saying emulation doesn't get the absolutely perfect 100% original audio is like saying you don't go to concerts because songs being played arnt 100% EXACTLY like the album.
@phonzeh6 жыл бұрын
It's more like going to see a cover band imo. I'm generally fine with SNES emulated sound, but the Genesis/MegaDrive music is where I got to have the real thing.
@Stringbats6 жыл бұрын
They are rich as heck thought, so paying $150, even $400 for smallest smallest amount of difference is worth it to THEM, and then they tell everyone to just "pick it up", like its a pack of cigs, not a big deal.
@cody88046 жыл бұрын
Stringbats yeah but they are being a little pretentious and condescending as well especially Ryan. Talking as if emulation just doesn't come near. Talking about electrons lol. And saying the SNES is putting on a live performance of the audio lmao. He acts like there's a tiny Yes concert going on in the SNES with light shows and spinning drummers and fog
@yolotiesto85066 жыл бұрын
after I bought the NT mini, I never use the NESa emulator (and others 8-bit emulatora like GB etc) again, now with the super NT, I probably will not use the SNES emulator any more. Software emulators does not comapre to FPGAs
@kevboard6 жыл бұрын
phonzeh but u are aware that the Genesis 1, 2 and 3 all have different sound chips and sound different from one another right? so what is the real thing in your opinion?
@hneugiii12456 жыл бұрын
Really dull video. Instead of showing the menu fonts and LED colors how about showing how the system actually plays. Ryan talked about how it can reduce slow down but showed nothing. They could do better than this.
@MrJNtheman6 жыл бұрын
Thank God Metal Jesus also covered this, I won't have to force myself to watch Ryan.
@gutspuck7216 жыл бұрын
I am a simple guy, I see Ryan , I click dislike
@cokeheadbenny6 жыл бұрын
this is just terrible
@sonicmario646 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for you and the 15 others who agreed to such an oxymoron. :P
@Orchestructive6 жыл бұрын
Oxymoron... I do not think that word means what you think it means.
@cody88046 жыл бұрын
Casey Decker oxymoron is something that is directly contradicting. Like jumbo shrimp. Or seriously funny. I'm not sure what you were going for but oxymoron does not apply. An oxymoron actually applies to you right now. Clearly confused.
@sonicmario646 жыл бұрын
An oxymoron is something that is said without actually meaning it.
@evilnick28856 жыл бұрын
spends lots of time talking about super turrican.... spends no time playing super turrican
@jamieshows15646 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Wont these games look overly blown up on these large HDTV monitors? Isn't that one of the reasons that people go for the CRT monitors?
@jonathanbeshansky49326 жыл бұрын
Jamie Shows On modern flatscreen TVs you can change the aspect ratio of the content on the screen so that it will be more square shaped from the remote or the controls on the TV in the settings menu.
@Imgema6 жыл бұрын
You don't know much about emulation, do you?
@meatPi116 жыл бұрын
Don't watch this, go watch the My Life In Gaming review, they actually know what they're talking about
@tituswayne6326 жыл бұрын
They talk about emulation like it's still the late 90s.
@datunes6 жыл бұрын
My ears are hurting, these guys should research and at least understand what they are talking about in future.
@servadac426 жыл бұрын
"It's just reading rom-files, it's not emulation"... that's literally what emulation does
@SaltySparrow6 жыл бұрын
Nearly $200 and it doesn't include a controller. Wow. I will keep using my SNES from my childhood on my CRT until it dies.
@wilhelmschmidt72406 жыл бұрын
An emulator is absolutely equal or better to any original cartridge. Electrons still "move through reality" when going through the processor of something using emulator software to copy the action of an old console.
@Peter_19866 жыл бұрын
That electron bullshit makes Ryan sound like he took LSD before this video or something.