Man. You did great. My first video by you ever as well. I think people expect to much for their own Personal experiences, but forget there are MANY others watching. If they want it different, check out another channel, research themselves or do their own video and try and please EVERYONE. you did great, thanks for the video man. Have a great evening!

Please review Gravity Falls.

Why is anyone complaining about the term Mangahood? I and others use it often on the FMA subreddit as it's a easy shorthand when the two line up. Your fanbase is weird.

I prefer the original. Brotherhood feels a little too fast paced although I do think it is good as an extra side sieries and does add a few net plot points which is good.

can you do an analysis on the truth

This is my fave FMA trivia, so wholesome and... human

I love that young King Bradley asked his siblings for advice on how to talk to the girl he had a crush on. That is impossibly cute.

@@Nightman221k I would give an arm and a leg for a Homunculi prequel spinoff manga or anime. Young, awkward Bradley, how Greed got along with the others and why he left, humanizing interactions... So much potential aaaaa

Now I can just imagine him dishing out corny shit like "damn girl, your thicker than a bowl of oatmeal"

Oh.....My god......I love him even more now. Lol

Damn

Mustang isn’t a womaniezer

@@Randommanontheinternet9641 He's known for being one. We don't see it in-universe because of how quickly this moves past. ...Shame they didn't include that one scene. YOU KNOW THE ONE....

@@Terestrasz What scene?

@Phi what mini skirt scene? I’m new to fma/fmab so please don’t roast me.

It's also referred to as the sin that all other sins arise from. The concept of the original sin being rebellion from God, human kind thought they knew better than God. In brotherhood he refers to himself as the "eldest" if I remember correctly.

@@Zayindjejfj He is the eldest and the strongest because pride is the biggest sin of Father because of his willing to eat god. Since creating the homonculus was a way for him to become "perfect" by suppressing all of his sins (and so his emotions, that's why he don't show any) it's normal for him to start wis his strongest sin.

Koldmotro but pride in biblical literature is the oldest sin. Pride is why satan was banished from heaven. Pride is what all other sins, including the other 6 deadly sins, as well as the sin of betrayal (considered the worst sin by Dante’s divine comedy) come from. Pride is the first sin, pride is what made cain kill Abel, pride is what caused so many atrocities in human history

daddy escanor no homo

@@cezarjulian0320 Isn't…that what he said though? Not including the specifics of the Biblical nature of it, of course.

Corn Jeebus, yo I even thought he sounded like him. It gave me nightmares.

That was 100% my take on him too hahaha. That had to be a conscious inspiration.

i has fanfic with only five chapters published

Fox Mcloud No, it’s not a fanfic. It’s official canon. An alternate timeline.

@@bunsmasterbunny I was talking about MY fanfic: archiveofourown.org/works/17790377/chapters/41973587

@@bunsmasterbunny Lol!

Welllll duuuuuuuhhhhhhhh.

what a pain....fighting is such a pain....

I actually really like the way he represents his sin, in that he's not incapable of making choices or think for himself, but that he just doesn't care enough to do so.

I feel like both versions of Sloth lean much more into the apathy/passionless side rather than just being lazy.

Winged Mirage I think most people who think they’re lazy actually are just passionless and don’t care about a task they don’t wanna do, so yeah that makes sense.

@@tcrpgfan thinking would mean more effort

And isn’t the most human thing to do to finally let go of vendettas and fully live (and by extension of course die) in the moment?

You're stretching it, just like how people stretch the true meaning of most literature.​@@Acidfrog475

What?

@@chuggaa100 the comment speaks for itself. If you didnt get it, rewatch Brotherhood.

@@zerephgaming It doesn't because it's written confusingly.

@@chuggaa100 Okay, ill make it basic. Bradley had a moment where he sympathized with humans due to their abilities to defy their opposition for their own goals and choices.

@@zerephgaming Ah you meant Bradley was respecting humans. Makes sense since he was originally human himself. The way it was written makes it seem like you were referring to Pride. My b

I remember thinking that too. I also liked 2003's Pride as he was the only homunculus who could age and I could imagine Dante having pride in her ability to effect that particular creation. Even 2003's Sloth being water seemed appropriate in its own way. Just be a puddle and go wherever gravity takes you

@@Vistico93 Sloth was cool for showcasing a few interpretations, her mostly indifferent nature for the apathetic side of sloth, and being made of water means most conventional means of physical attack are ineffective, since they just pass through and the water reforms into the body, so they usually don't need to bother dodging or reacting to opponents much

@@snowboundwhale6860 Not to mention the fact that rather than try to self reflect upon her conflicting feelings towards the Elric brothers, she instead wants to take the easy way out by just killing them and being done with it.

@@Vistico93 Another interesting thing to note is that sloth is represented by water, hence her ability. If I recall correctly it's because of a biblical tale of a mother whose sin was sloth and drowned her children because she couldn't bring herself to be a mother. Much like 03's Sloth not having the drive or care to become the mother of Ed and Al again.

In 03, he's envious of edward for getting the attention and acceptance of hohenheim

Intriguing idea. Havoc and Lust were inspired in design by two of Arakawa’s earlier characters who were romantically linked so that might have been a fun nod to the character she shares a similar appearance to liking the one similar to Havoc.

Another part to know is that Lust's name is deceptive. She is the object of other people's lust, but she takes delight in "bloodlust". But like all humans, Lust desires genuine human connections. When Havoc begun showing affections and genuine emotions; Lust is touched and has a moment of clarity. But she's simply not molded enough by said feelings to give way to her creation's purpose by Father. Had Jean and Lust more time to continue their relationship. She might've explored these new feelings and find value like Wrath had done with Mrs. Bradley, taking something as her own outside her creator's plan.

Cringe

Based

Because it only existed for 5 seconds.

Didn't the 03 Lust say she was the "second" Lust? Nothing was really done with that fact other than imply Dante had been causing trouble for a LONG time.

03 lust technically is the reason scar is well ... scar.

@@MartezAnims I thought the exploding alchemist gave him those scars in both versions.

@@chrisdaughen5257 Martez didn't mean that...it was Lust who set Scar's brother up to research Alchemy to drive back the armed forced that were bent on exterminating his people (though the whole plan was, ofc, to set up the rivaling arm's race between the two to see who would manage to synthesize a philosophers stone first.). Eventually Scar's brother figured it out but then used it to give Scar back his arm after he lost it (thereby foiling Lust's/Dante's/Father's plans). It's what set Scar onto the path of murdering any and all state alchemists in the first place....and Lust's relationship with Scar's brother was at the heart of it; indirectly causing the Ishballan tragedy.

Lust went from someone you hate to someone you really feel for. I do get it.

None the wiser in simple terms means "not knowing". So you just said no-one wouldn't know.

They did lack a paramount part of being human tho. The trifecta of body-mind-soul and they don't have a soul. Hard to understand what soul gives humans in 2003, my guess is emotions, pasions and ambitions?

@@ofgreyhairwaifu4089 But they have all those things. So I always thought that it was either an immeasurable thing you couldn't really describe that they lack, or even more tragic it was something that they didn't really need that just becomes an easy tool for them to be manipulated. I read so many fan fictions back in the day about them all finding some way to be happy.

Lyra is a tragic character too!

Brotherhood's homunculi were fine characters who served the story well, but conceptually they lacked the versatility of the 2003 homunculi. The 2003 homunculi were all created by and based on different people which gave them different motivations for seeking similar goals and different backstories while the Brotherhood homunculi were all just created by Father and their motivations are all "Let's help daddy dearest." All in all, it makes the 2003 homunculi more interesting as a group even if there were a couple Brotherhood homunculi who were individually more interesting than their 2003 counterparts.

Thanks for giving more context to that. I didn't realize there was so much to it.

Is that why people are always giving melons in anime? I thought they just liked melons.

Melons are expensive in Japan because they take up a lot of land to grow, which obviously is limited on an island nation. Same reason beef is expensive there, relative to America the resources needed are just scarcer and thus more valuable.

Holy shit wtf lol

Specifically since Japan can't compete on quantity, they compete on quality. It's not like you can't get imported fruit in Japan, but the import policies are incredibly strict, and this somewhat protects the domestic market, but not enough for domestic farmers to be able to sell them at the same price. Therefore Japanese farmers have instead focused on making their fruit the best in the world, in the same way they focused on their beef.

God takes all the bad and uses it for good.

Big thing I learned in therapy. I was in a very bad place and hearing that reminded me of FMAB and I ran back into it. It was delightful to hear it here too!

i agree 100%

Pride has such a good aesthetic

When he slurps his tongue while looking at Kimblee before he eats him... Soo dang creepy

I agree because he's just so fun to love/hate. He doesn't have to be complex, he's like Scar or something

@@doodle7342 Scar is pretty complex tho lol

I'm going to have a video on Father and Dante later on, so I will discuss that more there :) Thanks for the great comment though!

I just figured that greed realized that lying harms his long term interests. Gain less now to gain more later. It's also why greed is perfectly willing to let others prosper too, because he's lacking the envy and jealousy that drives real world greed, he simply desires more.

@@DaDunge He's willing to delay gratification in order to gain a larger reward. He represents the key balance between hoarder and waster, both of which represent the extreme ends of the Sin of Greed. Contrast this to Gluttony, who is short-sighted and can't really think too far beyond fulfilling his most basic needs, primarily being food. He constantly wants food in excess, believing it will fill the void he feels within. Food isn't the only thing he craves however: he also desires emotional support and validation from others. He receives this primarily from Lust. They seem to relate to one another because according to the Divine Comedy, Lust and Gluttony are considered the least offensive of the Sins, and thus occupy the higher and less severe levels of Hell.

big thonks happening here big thonks great comments from a good video, the hole time I was watching this I was wondering how each tied to their father or whatever is driving them that isn't them and is why this is a good video and not a great video every single sin I was left with that question would have complete this video from top to bottom but is missing info so idk if I can even call this an analyzation just an in depth look at each, analyzation would have had that info in it

+Adnan Ilyas The thing is that the Father desired what Greed desired, even the Father say it at some point: ''I know you the best, you are my greed, so anything you are desiring now, I most likely desired at some point.'' And he definitely desired connections, friendship, family... and we see that trough the other sins too. First of all Pride, who is the only homunculi that is made after his image... Pride is basically like his child, his descendant, which is even more obvious when you take in consideration that he calls himself Father, and he has no other name - Pride is the first Homunculus, and he presented to himself to him as "Father'' ... also, Prides real form is that of a fetus. Envy is jealous on humans and their ability to recover and rise up trough their connections. Wrath despise looking down on them, he is actually admiring humans deep into his heart. Lust and Gluttony do not share this ambiguity because unlike the others, those two sins are instinctual not emotional, while Sloth is... well, sloth. So as he gives up on his sins he ends up losing his answers together with his humanity. Is an irony of the Equivalent Exchange Law, as he is sacrificing his humanity to create lives, as he sacrifices his answers to create the tool that would help him to reach the Truth, and in the end he ends up siting clueless and ignorant before the Truth and is sent behind the Gate as punishment for giving up his humanity and answers in the first place. I loved the 2003 series at it's time, thou I hated and hate the Shamballa movie conclussion, but the Brotherhood is better in the way that is playing very well its philosophical concepts. In 2003 the Homunculus are humane, their role is purely tragic, and the Truth is never addressed, is just a concept of a cool power ... the Parallel World thing was... bullshit. Meanwhile, Brotherhood is all about the truth, the entire story is built on the 2 concepts of the Alchemy, the Equivalent Exchange Law in the form of sacrifices, and 'All is One, and One is All' as salvation or solution to the first, which makes alchemy in FMA:B more than a cool power like it is in 2003, but a lesson, a core value of the storyline itself.

But Ed vs. Greed tho. He uses the properties of carbon against Greed after realizing that's how he hardens his skin. Mustang also overcomes his weakness against water against Lust by transmuting the water into hydrogen and oxygen gas, and igniting it with a lighter.

Mustang's flame alchemy in general is a cool chemical thing. He transmutes the air surrounding his target (and a thin line to himself) into hydrogen and oxygen before lighting it with the glove. It's a very simple alchemical reaction which is probably why the transmutation circle is so plain, but it still makes sense. Changing the allotrope of the carbon covering Greed and then later Father from graphene to graphite was pretty cool too.

@@typhoonzebra What does confuse me though has got to do with how alchemical research goes, which unfortunately isn't explained much at all. Mustang's flame alchemy is supposedly very advanced. His master spent a large portion of his life creating it, and despite its immense power and how much military might it provided, no one else had created it. So the fact that it's a fairly simple transmutation, just a deconstruction of air particles, and that the circle is so simple, makes me wonder why it was so difficult to create. In fact, scar theoretically should be able to do the same thing, just with far less precision.

@@Red_Bastion I think much like has happened in real life history, prejudices and preconceived ideas of the world have inhibited progress. Very simple navigation techniques went undiscovered for centuries because of the assumption the earth was flat. Very simple hygiene advancement were slowed because of the assumption that it was smell that carried disease. It's very possible given their 19th century level knowledge that assumptions of what air and gasses are, stand in the way of progress and that once their alchemists realise the error in their assumptions, flame alchemy becomes commonplace.

@Creepin Bro one theory i read is that the flames itself is piss easy to figure out. the hard part is control, not so little to only make sparks, not so much you blow yourself up with everything.

This comment is old, but I'll respond anyway. As far as the personality of Sloth itself is concerned, I find it to be quite interesting, even if it is simple. Father himself is, put simply, empty. He has a hole he can't fill, and his Homunculi all have the same problem. They all try and fill it in different ways. Envy fills it with hatred, Lust with pleasure (sadism in particular), Greed with possessions, Pride with himself, Gluttony with consumption, and Wrath with what little control he can find. Father is sort of a mix of them all, trying to become a higher being who has everything in the palm of his hand. Sloth is different though. Sloth has a void, but unlike the others he doesn't even try to fill it. Because he never tries to fill that void with anything, he has no will, nothing to work towards, nothing to drive him. He allows himself to be a slave because he doesn't have the will to do anything else. He is the despair that Father has tried to bury, the empty shell that he truly is, and the future that is in store for him should he succeed, and lose everything. Life sucks for Sloth. EDIT: After spending some time thinking, I've decided that Gluttony has more to him than just liking to eat. All of the Homunculi have their root in Father's mind, so what does Gluttony represent in that? He can't represent simple gluttony, since even at the start, he had much loftier goals than just eating. However, the main ability of Gluttony is the ability to draw anything and everything into an unending void that can never be filled. In that way, Gluttony could be Father's desire to fill the void in his soul. The other sins are what Father tries to use as fuel, to keep himself going, while Sloth is the polar opposite of Gluttony. Gluttony wants to consume whatever he can find to fill a void that can never be filled, while Sloth tries to shut himself off from the world and falls into despair.

I think I’ll always prefer Brotherhood’s Greed simply because of how much development he got, and his contrast between his first appearance and how he acts towards his friends then, compared to how much he cares for his friends later is great. But I also agree that 2003 Greed is stellar

03' Greed was cool BECAUSE he didn't treat his subs like property, like the fact that they were his brought them up from being mere possessions into people he may actually care about - which for him being a humonculus was interesting.

@@nillynush4899 yeah but still the greed in brotherhood is a better character overall. and so does the series.

Nah Brotherhoods Greed says he does but he doesn't. At least not eventually. That's because Greed always desires more, always desires everything, even friendship and companionship, admiration. Really he shows that once you remove greed from Envy (and by extension jealousy) and pride, it is not really a harmful force any more.

I'm starting to wonder if people who watch these videos of someone who has 2003 bias really understand Brotherhood. "2003 Greed never treats his minions as possessions while brotherhood's does." They are his possessions because they are his friends. "His" is the loud part and "friends" may be the quiet part but it's still there even with Greed 1. I've always felt 2003 Greed was just these for Edward to beat like some sort of miniboss or stock shonen villain. "If you wish to continue, you must best me!" which is so unGreed like... I mean as in the quality of being greedy itself, let alone the character... Oh hell, this comment got a like from the video maker. I'm really in the wrong place.

Yep, and then in Shamballa he dies a literal ouroboros, which I thought was really interesting.

I loved that deep down, his hatred had a source. And it was cool to see him get a satisfying end. Even if the movie wasn't handled all that well in other areas.

@@kashandi2 Honestly the movie has kind of grown on me the more I watch it and now I like it a lot.

@@RogerSmith2004 i like the premise. Mostly it's the intro and treating the audience like noobs that i don't like. That and general reception, not being party of the show really hurt the 03 reputation.

@@kashandi2 I love the intro now because of its parallels to the atomic bomb. To me it's so cool that essentially it gives the implication the prototype to the atomic bomb was from Amestris and it was actually Ed and Al's own failure to stop it that caused the Thule Society to find it and sort of creates the main conflict of the movie. In my opinion, it not only sort of creates a reason for Ed and Al to feel responsible for Germany without having seen the series, but it also gives the ending a better payoff imo.

lmfao

agreed

He wishes for death?

@@darkslayer1161 context of the scene is wrath sees another homunculi die who only wants to be human. And all the homunculi have battled with this. Upon seeing one die wrath sees the pitiful ness of death and wonders “why would I want this but I do”. Knowing at the current form they are almost immortal and super powerful. The original questions what it is to be human and for the homunculi if having memories and the form of the person they were made to imitate makes them that person. In the case of sloth she does what she can to disprove this. She wants to be something else. So she fights against a character to prove she can’t be. As the original form of themselves would never try and kill the person they loved. Hoping this will break them from being what they are made in the image of. Despite they will at least somewhat be them no matter what. Tangent. But the original is truly superior IMO in relation to the homunculi and how they are fleshed out.

It's not the first series. Just a perversion of the actual story.

​@@Jade_Hansongranted it was forced due to the timeline, but it's a different take on the storyline. Some elements in this version are so wholesome, you would not find them in the manga version. Though, you can have your subjective opinion. I'm a fan of both the versions.

Do the homonculi know Father's ultimate goal is to swallow god? My memory is a bit fuzzy but wasn't it a surprise for both sides?

@@chronicnugget5595 I think they do know because they know they need people to open the portal and the deadline of the eclipse. Also Greed hatched the plan to steal the power.

Feeso I’m sure Greed just put two and two together. If not that, he just knew Father would surely be getting more power and he would find a way to take it for himself.

@@jamesnichols3366 Maybe but he did seem to think he would have the chance to jump in the portal instead and claim the power till father revealed he knew Greed would try it and that the real transmutation was a few meters away from where greed was. Also like between them having to dig a giant circle, carve the crests of blood and find human sacrifices, Im guessing they had to have some idea about it. They even know gluttony is an "artificial portal of truth", As envy says it. I should note that when father was just a little creature in a flask he seemed to have innate alchemical knowledge about the portal of truth, knowing how to make a philosopher's stone as the king needed to ask him. Maybe that comes from him being the result of alchemy or maybe his intelligence just allowed him to deduce how the portal works. Regardless it's possible all homunculi have some kinda innate understanding of the portal too.

@@chronicnugget5595 Most of the Homunculi are dead by that point (Pride is next to Father, I think Greed is still on the surface and Bradley is losing himself into his last fight against Scar), so I don't think we ever get a real reaction shot ? Pride may have known, since he was the only one next to Father when it happened and didn't seem surprised.

I can do the Father Dante thing. Father is mustachio twirling one dimensional creature villain and Dante is a person with real motivations and a reason for why she is the way she is. Which sums up FML v FMLB perefctly. Brotherhood is one dimensional weeb shit that leans on the worst parts in anime, while FML takes anime and injects it with so much meaning, making even the inhuman villains seem like people.

@@brya9681 Well then you didn't see Brotherhood, in the end of Brotherhood we notice more about Father, there is even a scene showing that we wanted to become God so he wouldn't have any limitations, being able to explore the world freely as he wants, which also makes sense since in a flashback Hohenheim asked what would make the Dwarf in the flask happy, and he said that if he could get out of that flask he probably would be happy showing how much he wanted freedom and wanted to know the secrets of the world

@@brya9681 Imagine thinking FMA 03 is better than Brotherhood lol, both of them are good, I watched them in release date order and almost didn't watch Brotherhood because I thought it was the same, but if you really think that Brotherhood is weeb shit fanservice and Father is some old fashioned boring villain then you just didn't pay enough attention to Brotherhood, your eyes were covered by nostalgia crap and your soul is beyond salvation

@@JeffGranja27 the last part a bit much but agreed

Lust isn’t only about sex... he lusted after things

Lust is tied for the third strongest. She is without a doubt stronger than Envy, Gluttony and Sloth. She'd have 0 effort taking those three down. Envy and Gluttony would go down in mere moments. She's tied with Greed, since we have no way of knowing which of their weapons would be victorious. Also, she is not lascivious. She is not regular lust. She is bloodlust - the embodiment of Father's sadism, which he has lots of.

@@DeathnoteBB the list sin is primarily about carnal desires such as sex

@@925263 "She is without a doubt stronger than Envy, Gluttony and Sloth." I'm going to assume you mean stronger as in "has the better ability" as opposed to brute strength, because if it's the later meaning that's blatantly incorrect. Her "freaky fingers" are indeed strong and decently sharp, but compared to: -Transforming into anything you want while having mass equivalent to a blue whale (keep in mind that he can also change into inorganic material, as he made his arm a blade when fighting Ling in the forest). -Having muscle mass so incredibly dense that bullets can't even penetrate your skin and you're able to hurl yourself at speeds visually similar to Bleach's flashstep. -Being able to instantly transport a huge area in front of you to another dimension that has no exit (unless you have alchemy & knowledge of how to preform human transmutation). Yeah... the only one I could see her being able to beat is Sloth, and that's just because of how long Sloth takes to attack. Unless Greed didn't cover his entire body with his shield while fighting her, then I think she would have the edge over him too. Though I do agree on your point of her having more traits of bloodlust than sexual lust.

@@925263

But can we go him the voice of the Master of Fallout 1?

Precisely

Oh goody, goody!

Isn't Winnie the Pooh also the president of china

Oh my god yes

specifically, Lust is BLOODlust in mangahood, she's someone who really enjoys hurting people and murder and revels in violence, something we see a lot of in Father himself

I imagine most people who don't like mangahood's Lust are people who really, really connected with 2003's. I was LIVID when I first watched Brotherhood and she not only lost much of her complexity but was the first to die. 2003's Lust was easily my favorite character and even though I expected her to be different I still expected more time with her, and her death was a hard blow. It wasn't until I'd finished Brotherhood and looked back on what it's trying to do with the Homunculi that I could see the value of her character there. I still prefer 2003's version, but I don't think she's weak.

@@EveryDayALittleDeath I prefer the 03 Lust as well (though by no means dislike the Mangahood version). And conversely, I preferred the Mangahood Bradley. Give some take some, I suppose.

Thank God Someone that gets that the manga lust has a character

I find Lust more exciting in the manga and brotherhood, she's an unapologetically remorseless killer who is proud of the fact that she is a homonculi and I like her dry wit and how she takes enjoyment in doing horrible things. She's a really fun femme fatale. You don't get that kind of female villain character often since most of the time they try to make them a "broken bird" character type like FMA03 did. I kind of dig that the manga/brotherhood version was capable enough to be a cruel powerhouse. To be honest I thought her transition from villainess to broken bird in FM03 wasn't handled as well as it could have been which is why it left me unimpressed. That and the fact that we had opportunity to have memories of her past drive her like it did with 03!Sloth but didn't seems like a wasted opportunity, especially since when she asks Scar what she was like as a human Scar's just essentially like, "pretty and nice."

Lust was burnt to death.

(2003 version) Sloth: doesn’t put up much of a fight and dies a somewhat slow death Gluttony: munches on the wrong kid and gets transmuted Lust: blinded by desire and longing for what she wants to obtain Envy: the source of his jealousy gets him killed Greed: refuses to give up what is his and chooses to take it with him to the grave Pride: is blinded by hubris and believes everything will go according to plan Wrath: frustrated and tired, sacrifices himself after fighting for his life They too died as a result of their virtues in 2003 but with a different set of circumstances.

I would disagree with this ? Lust is obviously the one in charge of the Homonculi before her death, if she deems it necessary to kill a sacrifice because they just know too much, Father would have probably let it slide.

It's true. It took a lot of self-control to stop myself from inserting it at any even semi-emotional moment. It's just such a good piece of music.

@@Lowart Who said that was ever a complaint?

@@tss3393 Probably a hater.

I can't listen to it cause I know some russian, and so the fact that I understand it makes it cringy

The fact that they cut Bratja out of BH is still the biggest sin to me

Envy was definitely an asshole but his death just made me feel really sorry for him. (Brotherhood not 2003)

Envy only wanted what humans had, but he never wanted pity. He wanted love, and was envious of those who had it, because he never understood why humans could keep going even after they had clearly been defeated.

Envy is my favourite homunculus He's the one who relates to me the most out of all the homunculi His personality and the sin he embodies His death was very sad (his death also pained me the most, especially when my friend *laughed* at it), but like the other homunculi, they all die in the end (In an ironic way)

@@isramubashar5080 this is a safe space where we all collectively want to make Envy a cup of hot cocoa

And also give him a hug That's one of the other things he needs

EXACTLY ! A child is after all an achievement and King Bradley is proud of that .

And here I thought he was wrath, not pride

@@GippyHappy He has a different role in 03. In Brotherhood he's Wrath. :)

I always saw it as an act of humility.

@@saidi7975 I think this is the best way to describe what happened in that episode.

on the other hand one cant help but notice the hommunculi don't really serve a real ROLE in the story beyond merely being minions, while in Mangahood they have more distinct roles in the big bad's plan and have a more interesting personal motivation for serving the main villain

I'm with you nilly. Giving interaction between characters and setting is so much better than villain of the week. 03 was an emotional journey, brotherhood is a flashy shonen.

I always really enjoyed how the homunculi were a direct result of the misdeeds of some of the main alchemists in the series, it immediately makes the conflict between them so complex and interesting.

Exactly I don't really see a problem with more character development only one that had good development in brotherhood was pride I would have liked that in the mix with 2003's It would have been nice to continue the series without some of the homunculi dying like lust sloth envy 2003 pride 2009 all have interesting arc's even if it were something by a different name

Tristan Courson envy has fantastic development in brother hood his realization of his own pathetic nature and that the cycle of hatred must end. Wrath in his final battle embraces his human side shedding the name and title father gave him, and for someone who hated humans before that’s a lot. I would say brotherhood and fma develop different homunculi, but their all great in both versions.

Es exactamente lo que la serie te da a entender.

He still was anticlimatic

I'd never thought of that actually, but yeah, they're never all in one scene together

Nitro Indigo probably because it would be too much to focus on idk

@Nitro Indigo @Lowart Fullmetal Alchemist: Premium Collection is where we get to see all them in action within one room, its based on the cast from '03.

We never even got to see all the homunculi in the 2003 anime thanks to the comment in Greed's Arc that there were predecessors for some of the homunculi. Still we came close in that all 6 surviving homunculi were in Liore in the 2003 series.

Brotherhood had them all together when they boiled greed alive. Even pride was there..

You're back with FMA vids! Hopefully you'll mourn Lyra. like me.

Lust is amazing in FMA not so much in brotherhood

Also massive plot hole I think. If homunculi are immortal other than the way pride died ECT and they are human bodies with no soul and Dante is a soul without a body why wouldn't she just take one of theirs even if she couldn't preform alchemy anymore she's wouldn't have a reason to anymore with the ultimate goal accomplished (other than it's in the script) 😅

@@tristancourson4572 And Lyra would not ahve died.

@@michaelflores9220 indeed you know for a higher being Dante is pretty stupid

Bradley's death was better in Brotherhood indeed. Especially when he spoke his final words. "It was a life worth living... and a life worth dying for." Wow.

You should watch it! :)

Please watch it!

@@Figgy5119 already know how it ends and most of the plot points so sadly I have no motivation to watch it haha

Dude...go watch it like right now. You see how much better it is than Brotherhood

@@brya9681 ngl other things I've heard about the show turn me off it so I'll honestly probably never watch it lmao

Your story touched me. Homunculi 03 are symbolic on many levels. The reflection of people with mental illness is one of the facets of this symbolism. I, too, have experienced a severe period of depression in the past. I had to inject an antidepressant intramuscularly, several times a day. And FMA 03 is something that I often thought back to back then.

Well, not anymore considering now your profil is Garry from Ib XD (I love that horror rpg btw 🥰)

I think I can understand a little bit. Mariko from Elfen Lied did something similar for me as one with daddy issues. Her last episode repeatedly had me in tears and would echo in my thoughts frequently, so at some point I sat down with it and hit pause every time I had a thought or feeling to write them down and explore them, why I thought they were being triggered and where I thought they came from. I got a very long, cathartic journal entry out of that. It still resonates with me.

Wrath in 2003 should be Pride instead of Wrath because how he was born and his character that tied with Izumi

I thought that the conflicted homunculi in 03 were so much more tragic and impactful than in brotherhood. FMA 03 was just so much darker and more sad than FMAB.

Thanks for letting me know that you noticed that haha I put a lot of time into editing this big boy, so it's gratifying and encouraging to hear that these things are noticed :)

I have a fanfic, but only five chapters published. i'm not a very creative person.

Was it not... Promised?

So, killing him is a twisted act of love of "not wanting to see him fall to the same low level as other unreliable humans"?

​@@jellyfish0311 Yes

My friend when you love youre son, you dont kill them. There is no other way around it.

In my opinion, Envy and Bradley are given more in the manga than in the 2003 version.

And Greed!!! I didn’t even know what was going on with him in 2003 tbh,,, I’m probably biased tho- Greed+Ling is my favorite character in Brotherhood.

​@@lisboah Envy 2003>>>> Envy Brotherhood

They're definitely more interesting in 2003, but I'm not picky. I love both. Still the idea they were created from human transmutations makes you want to know more about who they were every step of the way.

He's an amazing character. Didn't appreciate him nearly enough until I started getting this organized. Now he's my favourite homunculus in Mangahood, and perhaps tied with 2003's Lust for my favourite overall.

I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed it :) It's the most work I've ever put into a single video, so it's good to hear that it's among my best

@@Lowart By the way, if you ever find the time to check out the Evangelion video I made, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. It was the first real video essay I've ever done, but I desperately wanted to raise awareness for a relatively unknown (but incredible) story.

@@Lowart some of us have been waiting 2 full comparison series for this video glad to finally see it released

Do you have an episode number to that info on Gluttony?

Johnny Doe probably not. iirc there’s nothing really genetic about homunculi, so that Bradley was able to impregnate his wife just means she took his sperm and did what mothers do: made and birthed a human child

@@ThexDynastxQueen one of the last ones, I vaguely remember it being mentioned around the time Dante separated his mind and body. Can't remember the exact episode tho.

Gonna have to watch the show again, but fairly sure the son was adopted in 2003.

@OfGreyHairWaifu: It's fine as it's better than nothing so thanks as I can't remember this and it's driving me crazy lol. Edit: It's ep. 50 where Dante explains she made Gluttony to process stones.

I think in a sense, Wrath was meant to represent Ed's emotions. Like, I think he mentioned wanting to cry with him when Sloth died and such.

Fun fact: The Catholic Church teaches that the seven sins are not actually sins but passions that can become sinful when they are mishandled.

spiderdude2099 Well - this part of the Brotherhood did not seem very persuasive to me (as the ending in general due to the number of reasons). The father person got rid of 7 human weaknesses to be a perfect being. But at the very same time he was arrogant (looking down at ppl, considering them to be only a source material for his power), was obsessed with the idea to consume the god to gain absolute knowledge/power (therefore he still was greedy). Overall - just a typical tyrant villian using others to become just another master of the world

Ehhhh I think the portrayal of the sins in FMAB is actually supposed to be somewhat of a commentary in the nature of each sin. For example, Gluttony is so innocent and facile-minded because the sin of gluttony is itself rather innocent and facile-minded. It would generally make sense not to consume more than is necessary, but we do so in an innocent attempt to satiate our cravings. The outward effects of the sin are indirect, whereas a sin like Greed or Envy is very much direct in their outward effects. This is why characters like Greed and Envy have so much more depth. It's because the sins of greed and envy ARE so much deeper. It's why Lust is so lacking in outward emotion, because sexual lust is detached from emotion. It's why Sloth possesses so much power, yet wields in so lazily. Not all human sins are equal, and thus it makes sense that not all of the sins in FMAB are portrayed equally. I could go more in-depth on how each Homonculus, their life, their death, their overall character development, and their abilities each relate back to the sins upon which they are based, but for the sake of time I'll leave it at this.

@@MrChaosAdam Yup, The word sin comes from the Hebrew word "Khata" in the Bible. Khata essentials means "to miss the mark" kind of like an arrow toward a target, so sins are essentially good things that have missed the mark of what they could truly be, virtues.

This was explained in the manga by Greedling, who pointed that being greedy (such as desiring friends) isn't inheritly bad. Ed and Roy are both have a greed/desire to achieve their goals.

Well the author is a woman so it only make sense that this is one of the only manga with actual good female characters and no fan service

Yeah it really ecentuates how the “lust” in her name refers to her bloodlust over all others

@@ricerib4721 There is fanservice though, like the Sandwhich scene. I don’t know if that was in the original manga though

@@allmightywhale That's not heavy fan service tho

This is really late but lust is actually sexier because she isnt oversexualized. The cleavage betrays that of course but she isnt an eternal bikini model, she leaves the questions unanswered and seems like a woman, not a girl just down to fuck with nothing else to her. Classiness mixed with boldness goes much further than just a pair of tits and an ass hanging out for all to see

yes

Yup I'm doing great! Thanks for the words of encouragement :) Making this video is the most fun I've had making videos in ages, so it's good to hear that people are enjoying it

It also give human transmutation, the “ultimate taboo” a bit more of a taboo feeling, that this is why it’s forbidden. You create life, but flawed life and at a cost that’s far too high. Which is always what stayed with me from 2003, is that these creatures, the Homunculi were created by people either at their lowest ebb (a man who lost his lover, a mother who lost her child, children who lost their mother) or by people so far remove from humanity they only know they can do it and never consider if they should (Dante especially, which reinforces how far from humanity she has moved not only through her body jumping, but also through creating multiple homunculi.) Sloth being Ed and Al’s mother also gave the series a bit more punch, especially since Ed’s fight with her comes after we find Shou Tucker making Ninas in an attempt to fix his mistakes, a little ham fisted but it did a good job pushing the theme of letting go of the past. Granted, I can appreciate Brotherhood’s take as well, the homunculi literally being the shreds of humanity father has rejected.

plus the way they die has more rules in 2003 and makes them more threatening

They are born from the sins of their creators; they're crimes against nature made manifest in the form of those who they once loved.

I agree wholeheartedly. I love 03 Pride.

Really cool take. I honestly didn't get that from the series at all, but it's refreshing to see a different perspective on his character.

I'm beyond delighted to see someone sticking up for 2003 Pride. He's the most underappreciated homunculus in either show, and I weary greatly of people assuming he lacks depth compared to mangahood Bradley because of the lateness of the reveal, the manner of his end, and/or his lack of sympathetic qualities. Would I have liked to see his relationship his son explored more? Yes, I would, as that would have enhanced him still further. But, with no disrespect intended to our host, I believe there *is* enough material in the show to infer why what he does makes perfect sense for his character, once you start to think about the things the show assumes it doesn't have to explicitly point out in dialogue because it trusts the viewer to intuit them based on what it has shown us about the characters' behavior, personalities, etc. Me, I love the clever, arrogant bastard that is 2003 Pride. He's terrifying not because he's physically powerful [although he is] but because of just how *freaking successful* he's been at distracting attention away from himself. Watching the show a second time, knowing about the reveal, and then carefully observing the nuances of his behavior throughout the whole thing- his sense of humor, the hidden meanings in several of his comments that only he, being in the know, would get- its awesome He's a consummate troll who's reveling in every single minute of what he's doing, and I find his completely unapologetic evil absolutely delicious to watch. Some people might claim that his unrelenting vileness makes him less interesting than his other fellow homunculi, who are more conflicted. Me, I find that it actually enhances the other homunculi, by providing a contrast to them, a glimpse of what they could be if they stopped giving a crap and fully embraced all of the worst impulses of the very humanity which they had more of from the start than they thought they did. Which also makes 2003 Pride an effective thematic foil to many of the protagonists of the show as well, honestly. And that's the key thing about his character's function in the show- he's a thematic foil. If you can't get that, you won't get his character at all. He's a massive part of the plot, arguably just as -if not more- important than Dante herself at getting the villains' plans rolling. But more than that, he is [together with Dante] the living embodiment of the very evils that the protagonists' failings -and by extension, humanity's sins in general- have allowed to take root. I love King Bradley as Wrath; he's my favorite villain in mangahood, and he deserves every ounce of praise he's received. But he doesn't need defending, as even people who hate mangahood generally concede that he was a well-crafted villain. King Bradley as Pride, on the other hand, tends to go underappreciated even by diehard fans of the 2003 series. A lot more thought was put into his character than is often supposed. I've seen FMA 2003 multiple times, and I'm not going to lie- after careful consideration, *he* is my favorite villain in the show. And I'm going to stick up for my favorite bastard until the day I die, because boy howdy did he earn it in my book. :)

@@Lowart Oh, thanks. I hope I didn't sound arrogant in the part of my text where I'm addressing you. I really understand that making such videos is a lot of work. I would like to add that I would be happy to see a spin-off of this video, in which you compare the role of homunculi in general and not individually. Not only from the point of view of the story, but for example the feelings that they caused you in each of the series adaptations) There are so many interesting things that I think you should pay attention to. I will write about some of them when I have time.

@@deVillefort63 Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I like that Pride 03 always needs to play his fake role, because unlike 09 (I mean mangahood) the top of the government does not know about the homunculi and the true meaning of the wars that the Fuhrer unleashes. And in General the aura of mystery that accompanies every appearance of homunculi almost to the very end of the show is something that I adore. I also don't understand why everyone thinks Wrath 09 is such a deep character. Yes, he is a badass, Yes, he talks complexly and he has his own philosophy and Outlook on life. But God, it all looks so schematic and declarative. And the fact that he died at peace is so obviously made an arc of redemption that it rather annoyed me and I did not see any poetry in it. I generally don't like the concept of character arches especially when they are made so obviously.His entire "rich inner world" is always expressed through detached pathos monologues.

Easily my favorite character too.

Right there with you. He grabbed attention the most.

Thank you for your kind words. I'm really happy that the editing stood out to you. It took a lot of time and effort, and it's extremely gratifying to know that it is appreciated.

One could say a "sin" can be destroyed in two ways: either it becomes so great that it consumes itself, or if it meets its opposite, its antithesis. Embracing your nature to the extreme that it overwhelms you or rejecting and overcoming it - which one is a more noble death? As humans we'd obviously prefer the latter because we want homonculi to be like us, but things aren't that clear cut.

I dunno, many of these don't seem very related to their token sin. Gluttony (sort of) and pride yes, but the rest don't really strike me as irony. Not to say the 2003 homonculi weren't interesting, but just on this point in particular. Good example of the ironic deaths in Brotherhood would be that while Wrath died due to a fight, his final moments were arguably the most peaceful of any homonculus' - it's ironic because you'd expect his death to have been the most violent and angry. Self-sacrifice isn't really in line with or opposite of the concept of wrath, particularly.

@@RainbowWaffles you’re playing checkers buddy. Wrath’s whole presence in COS was completely opposite of his dogma as a homunculus in the show. The same wrath that was going balls to the wall against the elrics was mellowed out and humble enough to be willing to become material for the reaction needed for Alphonse to open the gate for Ed’s sake. Even when gluttony was killing him when he was being chewed on, he admits it himself that he not only planned on his death but was able to resign himself to it. Something youd never expect a wrathful person to do. Ever. In the end, it still counts but you have to think about it a bit more. It was far deeper than the coincidence that’s on the surface of Brotherhood’s outcomes.

​@@RainbowWafflesThey're ironic in different ways. The 03 Homunculi aren't the personifications of Father's sins this time around, with their names being more like codenames. But, for example: Sloth, who desperately wanted to escape her past memories as the Elrics' mother, dies after Wrath, the child she essentially adopted out of spite, fuses himself to her. And Wrath's desire to be close to his mother figure is directly responsible for tearing him away from her. Very ironic, but it's ironic because of the Homunculi's goals and personalities rather than their sins this time.