No matter how goth you think you are Melkor is Morgoth.

I love the fact that Tolkien's villains focus on lies, division, and fostering decay within their enemies' ranks. The satanic figures make some of the most satisfying antagonists.

*”Beyond the circles of the world, there is nothing.”* - Morgoth

In high school, my literature teacher gave us the opportunity to present on our favorite literary passage, and I presented on Morgoth's dialogue with Hurin from The Children of Hurin. The series of lines on page 64 that goes, "but upon all whom you love my thought shall weigh as a cloud of doom... they shall die without hope, cursing both life and death" is the single most chilling passage I have ever read.

The second I saw Morgoth's name I knew this was going to be a long video.

You can't get more evil than Morgoth. He's literally the root of all evil.

Eru and Ainur: sings in angelic voices. Melkor: *mixes free from jazz with thrash metal* YEAAAAAHHHHH

Summary of the episode: Analyzing Evil: EVIL ITSELF

I love Whenever Morgoth/Melkor gets shouted out. I love when there are Big Bad villains that everyone knows and then its like "you think he's bad you should see his Master" and Morgoth BUSTED. Cant wait to watch this!

Morgoths greatest evil was the way he could Influence the pure of heart into evil deeds, with whispers, lies and sewing hatred/confusion. Children of Hurins Turin’s discovery about his pregnant wife still hits hard.

Even the Valar agree, the most evil thing that Melkor ever did was the creation of the Orcs. It's a direct mockery of Illuvatar and defilement of the Elves. Same with Saruman in LOTR. As soon as he started breeding Uruk-Hai he realized he was too far gone and could not turn back to good.

I always love tragic villains, but I always like full-blown villains who are pure evil. Because a tragic villain will have limitations and lines, while villains like Morgoth really don’t care about anything, they just want to destroy everything in sight, and it makes the villain more terrifying

My favorite interpretation of the orc's origins are that they were elves corrupted by black magic, a mirror of Melkor and thus Morgoth's fall from grace

Lmao. First 10 minutes I am listening to the narration and I have in my imagination this beautiful, divinely created orchestra with each player the best possible virtuoso of their chosen instrument. The highs and the lows and the harmony the greatest in mathematical and sonic perfection. Then off in the far back corner you hear Morgoth banging away randomly with a cowbell.

The funny thing about Morgoth is that while he's an individual, he's also kind of an omnipresent force of nature.

There are few villains that evoke such a wave of pure awe in terms of their scale as Morgoth. Even other well known big-bads like The Emperor from star wars, there is something to the gravity of Tolkien's writing and his ability to concoct a story which READS like an ancient text that embodies Morgoth with an almost unattainable level of reverence. Very pleased to find this video today

The fact that morgoth has never appeared visually, and is only described from an outside perspective, and you're still able to make over an hour long analysis of his character, I think, is a testament to Tolkiens writing

I'm not much of a Tolkenite, but I'll gladly listen to The Vile Eye talk for an hour and a half. I'm constantly impressed with the amount of work you put into these videos. Keep up the good work, Mr. Eye!

Tolkien set out to write a kind of Greek mythology for Great Britain. When you see how complex the entirety of the story is I think we can agree that he succeeded. It has to be the greatest fantasy universe ever written

Darth Sidious has been officially dethroned as the most evil villain covered in this channel. While Sidious is a being without redeeming qualities, Melkor basically invented all depravities in Tolkien’s Legendarium. He is no mere Dark Lord like Palpatine or Voldemort; Morgoth is the sentient force of evil itself. Edit: Can't wait for Sauron getting his own well-deserved episodie now.

Tolkien doesn't get the recognition he deserves for his understanding of the human condition

"As there is no need to alter details and descriptions that are conveyed perfecty within the Source Material." If only someone had told the RoP Writers . . .

I think it’s hilarious how the most civilized and beautiful beings that could literally kill you with beauty and song just fucking jumped Morgoth and just kicked the shit out of him

"There he was bound by the power of Morgoth, and Morgoth standing beside him cursed him again; and he said: 'Sit now there; and look out upon the lands where evil and despair shall come upon those whom thou lovest. Thou hast dared to mock me, and to question the power of Melkor, Master of the fates of Arda. Therefore with my eyes thou shalt see, and with my ears thou shalt hear; and never shalt thou move from this place until all is fulfilled unto its bitter end" - Pg 213 The Silmarillion Utterly chilling... What Evil festers in this beings dark heart.

I think Melkor is fundamentally a manifestation of Eru's desire to create things, it makes sense that the first being eru made would be derived from that part of his mind. But without the wisdom and understanding that instilled the desire to see those things grow and change. That's why Eru applauded the strength and knowledge of Melkor after the song, and wove a harmony from the war of sound whilst Melkor simply forced other ainur to sing his tune in the song and throughout his time in arda, obsessing over controlling the work of others until he could no longer make things that were of himself only mockeries of others.

I’ve always enjoyed the idea that ungoliant and Tom bombadil are the same kind of being. Both ethereal and ancient.

The sheer power of Tolkien's imagination always leaves me with a sense of awe.

What's even more scary is the fact that he's not even destroyed but actually locked away in a void prison. And I think if I'm correct there's even a part of Tolkiens Legendarium that prophecizes Morgoth's return to the world of Men for one final battle which is essentially the Armageddon of Middle Earth. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

he is on another level Sauron had the ring, where he put his evil and power, Morgoth had the entirety of the middle earth

What I wouldn’t give to see a well executed version of Ancalagon the Black during the final campaign against Morgoth. Meant to be his mightiest weapon, Ancalagon was the largest, greatest and most powerful of the dragons. It took a valoncar wielding the force of several stars to kill this serpent and his mere crashing to the ground shattered an entire mountain range

You must have pored over every page of the Silmarillion and then spent dozens of hours selecting paragraphs and writing transitions between details. What a fantastic script, and then all the effort to edit that with the maps and artwork.... This is by far your best video yet. There are plenty of demanding requests in the comments, but don't let the pressure get to you. Judging by the quality of this video, I could never be disappointed, no matter who you pick next nor how long it takes for you to produce the video. Fantastically well done.

Great choice of villain! Please do more Tolkien. His villains are far more grey than most people realize. Feanor would make an excellent candidate for a video like this as well.

He is literally Tolkiens Version of Lucifer. Only much more evil. A fallen god, which was cast out of „Heaven“ because he just was a huge Jerk.

Here’s the big one boys. The OG dark lord.

The reason Eru didn’t simply kill Melkor as soon as Melkor started causing havoc is probably something like the answer in “Time Bandits” to why evil is allowed to exist: that if it weren’t allowed to exist, beings wouldn’t have free will. Eru didn’t want to go back on his goal of letting his creations do as they please.

Tolkien was such a great storyteller his gift of world building alone has no match .

12:05 Actually, it was the Elves that named Sauron, well, "Sauron" and "Gorthaur", his first name was Mairon.

The audacity of Morgoth suing for peace and pardon after all that took place, he wanted to be like Eru and saw himself above all Eru's creations yet fled from, begged mercy of and was repeatedly defeated by Eru's creations.

My heart goes out to all of the people who have drawn such beautiful pieces of fanart as seen in this video. I could never ever draw something so beautiful as anything here, and highly respect the amount of time it would take to draw something as simple as a made up character from some book.

Vile Eye: “We’re analyzing all the evil of *Morgoth* Me: Pauses video {grabs snacks, a thermos of coffee, shuts ringer off, grabs pillows and gets comfortable) “Here we go”…{Presses Play}

*I cannot imagine* how lost someone would be, listening to this, if they're completely unfamiliar with it 😂

I think the most interesting aspect of Melkor/Morgoth is how incremental his fall from grace actually is. I would wager that it is a reference to Milton that he initially seems very much like Lucifer in Paradise Lost at the beginning of existence, simply excited/impatient for creation to begin and so he-unlike any other-seeks the flame imperishable. He goes from something of a free thinker to squandering his gifts and becoming the root of all evil.

It’s interesting how in terms of the Tolkien legendarium, humans are kind of the balance between the extremes of good and evil, with the orcs being the extreme of evil and the elves being the extreme of good. Not universally of course but as a foundation and the fact that they can sway either way made them easy for Morgoth to corrupt to a certain extent.

I'd like to see an analysis of Gaunter O'Dimm from The Witcher 3, for me, he was one of those compelling and charming villains that you hate to love.

Melkor is ironically Tolkien's main protagonist in a roundabout way. The professor never wrote with any semblance of a coherent timeline, that was his son's work. But the Dark Lord is the one constant in all Tolkien's works. Moving the plot along more than Beren and Lùthien, more than Ëarendil, Morgoth is one of the very first villain protagonists in all of fiction.

If we are delving into fantasy I’d love to hear your analysis on a villain from Warhammer 40,000. Horus Lupercal seems the most likely candidate, as the chaos gods are beyond understanding, the tyranids and orks aren’t evil from a point of view, that leaves only Chaos’ human followers, and the Dark Eldar. While Vect certainly has done enough evil to make other villains shed a tear, I think Horus makes for a more interesting study. Hell from perspectives one could equally call The Emperor as he is currently a villain as well.

Can’t wait to see Sauron, Saruman, and Gollum too

Hooooo myyyyyyyyy, one of the greatest villains in literature and also a very underrated one that deserve at adaptation, the silmarillon was a very fascinating book to read and one of the reason was the role the melkor have in the story. Thank you vile eye for this video 👍

Morgoth = Lucifer

If there is an analyzing evil for book villains, there NEEDS to be a video made for judge Holden from blood meridian, probably the best and scariest book villain

Morgoth's greatest failure was his refusal to humble himself and accepting that he was not the top being. While certainly guilty of all the classical sins, pride was the one chiefly ruling him. The mere thought of him not being greatest ruled him absolutely and much like a petulant child when told "no" he came to just destroy what he was envious of. In this, Morgoth is much lesser than Sauron ever was. Sauron at least wished to rule for the purpose of ordering things as he saw fit, to keep Millde-Earth in a sort of stasis because he feared it would become more and more mundane, the magic leaving the world (thus sealing it into Rings). Morgoth simply wanted to destroy because he was not the most powerful, all his actions a big tamper tantrum.

For those who like hearing about Morgoth I really recommend The Red Book. The best Tolkien channel, especially when it comes to understanding evil figures in Middle-earth!!

I see Morgoth, I see Vile Eye, I press play.

At the beginning the gods singing the melodic hymns. Morgoth: "y'all like heavy metal?!"

I love the story of Morgoth in the Silmarillion. The mystique and horror of both him and his protege are so thoughtfully painted by the master JR.

Analyzing evil: Horus lupercal

Morgoth has to be the most evil character ever analyzed on this channel

‘No need to alter details and descriptions that are described perfectly in the source text’, if only those that made the Amazon show had a similar thought process

The Vile Eye: Morgoth is a tricky character to analyse. *Proceeds to make an hour and twenty minutes video analysing the First Dark Lord. Haha in all seriousness absolutely brilliant video, I'm a massive fan of the Legendarium, and you did the world, language and Tolkien Justice.

Jareth The Goblin King from The Labyrinth could be a good one to analyze next.

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"If a man dedicates his life to good deeds and the welfare of others, he will die unthanked and unremembered. If he exercises his genius bringing misery and death to billions, his name will echo down through the millennia for a hundred lifetimes. Infamy is always more preferable to ignominy." - Fabius Bile, The Clone Lord at the Desecration of Kanzuz IX Warhammer 40k

Analyzing Evil: Lalo Salamanca

Sure, Morgoth is evil... but have you met my 9th grade algebra teacher?

What I enjoy most about silmarillion is how from the beginning LITERAL discord was the problem. Its such a great metaphor.

That was awesome. Never imagined a cross contamination between the vile eye and middle earth lore.

Actually Fingolfin is the BROTHER of Finarfin and Fëanor and the son of Finwë, great video tho can't wait to see more of Tolkien analysis

I'm surprised you did Morgoth before Sauron(unless you already did, then nevermind), but I suppose it's appropriate since Morgoth was Sauron's predecessor.

So far this has been the most enjoyable edition to Analyzing Evil for me.

I think that this is the most exhaustive analysis of a villian Ive eve seen.

Melkor or Morgoth is one of the or best of Evils in different universes. Studied Tolkien for years and one thing that interested me was how mysterious Morgoth is. Pretty sure he had used his power to twist the Nameless things. Anyway cool to see this video.

Sauron's name was Mairon prior to his enlistment under Melkor. Mentioning him first by a title he held after enlisting under him and what his enemies knew him of as his first introduction makes no sense. A good addition to this video would be the fact the Silmaril's were Hallowed by Varda, the queen of light and bride of Manwe so that mortal hands could not be laid upon them without burning them or the hands of anything evil. So in taking them Morgoth actually caused himself great pain in his hands and inlaying them in a crown on his head surely weakened his might but his vanity was so great he chose to do so anyway to possess the most coveted and most pure light that existed in the world.

Analysing evil: Homelander

Great expose on the events of the first age. Everything taken from Tolkien's writings with little extrapolation, which is appreciable. I noticed a few contradictory references though: -When referencing the Feanor and company's self-exile, it's said they traveled to Arda. Arda is the name for the Earth in its entirety (they were already in Arda, everyone was), they'd have travelled to Beleriand where the War of the Jewels of the 1st age takes place. Middle Earth is the region East of Beleriand past the Blue Mountains where the events of the 2nd and 3rd ages primarily take place. -Fingolfin is described as the son of Finarfin. Fingolfin and Finarfin are full brothers, both of whom are Feanor's half brothers by their father, Finwe (murder victim of Morgoth). -Cirdan was not assaulted at the Grey Havens by Morgoth's forces following the Nirnaeth. They were assailed at Eglarest on the West coast of Beleriand and forced to resettle at Arvernien to the South East. Cirdan did in truth establish the The Grey Havens at Lindon, but they were not built until after the War of Wrath; on the West coast of Middle Earth, which would effectively be the Eastern edge of Beleriand, prior to its destruction. This was great though. The epilogue sums up Morgoth's nature as the inventor of pain, suffering, deceit, misery etc. very well. Nice job...

I find it hilarious how the grey elves just get repeatedly destroyed in this lore. It seems like every other event is just “and they massacred the grey elves” like bro can’t catch a break

Morgoth makes the thought of having sauron rule over the world a comforting one...

I think Denethor the last ruling steward of Gondor would be a more interesting analysis of evil in Tolkien's works as he's evil from good intentions. Also if you're willing to do a deeper dive into the Tolkien legendarium, you could analyze Fëanor from the Silmarillion, one of the most pivotal characters in all of Tolkien.

Obviously I know that he has an ad break in his video to monetize his work somehow, but hearing the guy who tells me all of the evilest most vile things about these fictional characters also telling me that he loves a good bloody Mary from his decanter and he’s been looking for something to replace his addiction to coffee beans is quite humorous

Hopper from a Bug's life Doctor octopus from Spider man 2 and no way home Grand Marth Tarkin from Star wars The Penguin from Batman Returns Magneto from X men Violator from Spawn The animated series Fire lord Sozin from Avatar the last Airbender.

Thankyou!Thankyou!Thankyou! I never expected you to give an analysis to Melkor/Morgoth, THE ORIGINAL DARK LORD, this soon! Edit: 12:04 - Actually Sauron's true name was Mairon, which meant "The Admirable". Gorthaur was the name that the Sindar gave to him while he served Morgoth, which meant "Dread Abomination".

This is one of the coolest most well told stories I’ve ever heard spoken, you sir are legendary.

Thank you so much for the credit given over the art

Love it, as always!! Melkor is one of the greatest villain ever made. I would love to see an analysis on Cartman, the second… no let’s face it, THE greatest evil of all time and media.

Even though I enjoy Sauron and his scheming and cunning more, Melkor/Morgoth is a great villain

I hope I can add something useful to this video with the knowledge I possess. Beginning with the music of the ainur, the ainur wove fabrics that created not just the world, but its events and inhabitants as well. I believe that everything that later came to pass in Arda already happened in the themes at the timeless halls. The Valar, when come down to Arda, were frightened because it didn't look like what they thought it would. At that point, only Illuvatar could understand time linearly, and the Valar took time to understand that much of their creations would arrive in ages to come. Morgoth fled the timeless halls in shame at his inability to understand the themes of Illuvatar. He already couldn't understand the music, and he emerged into a world that was empty, barren of any of his or his siblings' creations. The terror and confusion this caused Morgoth cannot be overstated. Time and time again, Morgoth becomes terrified at what he cannot understand, such as men and the sun. His lack of knowledge underlies everything. Illuvatar tells him that no matter what, he will be undone in time. I should also add that Ungoliant is most likely a spawn of Morgoth when he sang a melody that was discordant with Eru's. Illuvatar did not create unstable things, but Morgoth did: Ungoliant ate herself and his own lair was built on unstable ground. Aule is an interesting counterpart, because he created Dwarves without the permission of Illuvatar. Illuvatar spoke to him and told him he was to do no such thing, and Aule responded by saying his creation of the Dwarves was not out of spite, but out of eagerness for the arrival of Elves and men, a poor mimicry of his father's work. Illuvatar allowed the dwarves to exist, but only after the children awoke. Yavanna found out that the children of illuvatar would cut down the trees she so loved and use the Earth, and she didn't comprehend that this too was part of the plan of Illuvatar, but with the creation of the Ents she found compromise. Morgoth, when faced with a limitation, either believed it not to exist or raged against it. Feanor says that he could only make the Silmarils once as he put so much of his power into them. Morgoth didn't understand that the more he tried to shape Arda once he was already there, the weaker he became. Later in the first age, he was in constant agony and could no longer assume any form but that of the dark lord. In a conversation with Hurin, it is interesting to note that Morgoth only refers to himself as Melkor and tries to break Hurin. Once he realizes Hurin will not break, he binds Hurin to a place where Hurin would see everything Morgoth saw, hear everything he heard, but he would have to see it all through Morgoth's twisted eyes and ears. It was Hurin more than anyone who understood Morgoth best, as he shared his senses with him. Lastly and like all the Valar, he was unable to comprehend the power of the children of Illuvatar. Luthien goes to the halls of Mandos and sings a song so beautiful and so full of sorrow that she bent the Valar to her will, allowing Beren to come back from the dead. When elves die, they travel to the halls of Mandos and await their kin or reincarnation, but men are not bound to Arda in the same way. Their dying was initially referred to as "the gift of Illuvatar" because it allowed them to transcend the binds of the world, going to a place even the Valar could not understand. Morgoth believed simple emptiness awaited them, and he was the one who first put the fear of death into the hearts of men. But it should be noted, Tolkien once stated he did not believe in absolute evil, but he did believe in absolute good. One of the most torturous experiences in Beleriand belonged to Beren, who followed his father into battle and defeat, lived with him and his companions in the woods for years. It was a miserable existence and due to Sauron's villainy, they were betrayed and set upon. Beren, the only survivor, ran and somehow made it into the Girdle of Melian without the knowledge of Thingol (it is likely that Melian knew of his coming). There he saw Luthien dancing in the forest, and for that time, all ill-feeling, all the misery he had ever felt, all the mental turmoil, it all vanished and he was frozen the way Thingol was when he happened upon Melian. Once regaining control of himself, the only word that came to his mind after all the misery, was "tinuviel", nightingale, the birds Melian taught to sing.

I don't think they could ever properly depict the pure power and majesty of Morgoth's wrath. He's just too larger than life to be ever depicted properly in live action.

Imagine setting up the full plot, creating strife where none existed, playing brother against brother, removing your hated enemies one by one like shooting tin cans with a .22... Only to blow it by being a smidge too thirsty for the family jewels. Melkor belongs in Supernatural, Game of Thrones, or The Walking Dead. Well, I guess it's the other way around, but you get the point.

Imagine this, the songs we hear in every battle and what not during the movies, are the songs of the ainur watching over and shaping the events happening against Melkor and Sauron 🤯

My man gives us a feature film for a weekly upload. I’m not complaining.

You did a great job. I admire the fact that you understood the fact that Tolkien's words were better than anything you could come up with. I wish more people who are working with Tolkien's works realized this.

37:27 fingon son of fingolfin* (dont worry i also sometimes misrepresent them)

Tolkien departs heavily from the common and easy Faustian depictions of evil as always biding time while influencing covertly under a beatific guise, and took to displaying it's despoiling nature in full force, while maintaining great depth of concept.

Morgoth and Palpatine are going to be fighting for top spot when Vile Eye does the next tier list.

Thank you so much for this, I been asking for this since I started watching your channel. love all about the Tolkien universe and this made me happy.

An hour and 20 minutes? REALLY? Whats the 100th episode gonna be? A four day marathon live stream of analyzing satan?

Love that we’re finally on Middle-Earth villains

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Analyzing Evil with Morgoth, how evil is he? yes

Please do Sauron/Mairon soon. He was the other Great Dark Lord of Tolkien’s universe but was not as evil nor as destructive as Morgoth. He believed in & strived for tyrannical order & I believe was redeemable (unlike Melkor/Morgoth)!

Could you cover Lord Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2?