Analyzing Evil: Norman Bates, Psycho

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The Vile Eye

The Vile Eye

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome everyone to the eleventh episode of Analyzing Evil! Our feature villain for this video is Norman Bates from Psycho, and is perhaps one of my favorite characters out of any film. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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@Monkofmagnesia
@Monkofmagnesia 3 жыл бұрын
Cleaning up after his "Mother's" crimes to me is more of Norman trying to protect his "Mother" rather than it being Norman lacking remorse.
@stephvandykeozzy
@stephvandykeozzy 3 жыл бұрын
Good point.
@computeraidedworld1148
@computeraidedworld1148 3 жыл бұрын
According to the TV show, here we don't know
@Ijcjsjsidjjf
@Ijcjsjsidjjf 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too.
@TheKawaiikari
@TheKawaiikari 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he's still cleaning up after a violent crime. If my sister kept killing people and I kept cleaning up after her, I'm a bad person.
@darthroden
@darthroden 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheKawaiikari At best that makes him an accomplice.
@eduardodiaz9942
@eduardodiaz9942 3 жыл бұрын
"Mommy issues" is quite the understatement here
@mjolninja9358
@mjolninja9358 3 жыл бұрын
Mother issues will likely make a person murderous, if left to the extreme
@based_prophet
@based_prophet 3 жыл бұрын
Awe u must be a good son
@metalDCM8
@metalDCM8 3 жыл бұрын
@@broomshi treatment for aspd are getting a lot better. Find help if you can because you don’t have to live that way forever. Also try have a listen to Paul bloom from Harvard on empathy. Not having empathy can be a good thing. I hope things work out for you in the future because we don’t choose the bodies we inhabit or the life we grow up in.
@metalDCM8
@metalDCM8 3 жыл бұрын
@@broomshi I hope I didn’t come off as condescending. Your right but, there’s no way I could genuinely understand. Remember that if you don’t get on top of your impulsivity control you could do harm to someone else which in turn could ruin yours as well which is unjust because you didn’t choose to be who you are. Aspd treatment doesn’t cure you but give you the tools to live a non damaging life for you and people around you.
@TheKenton
@TheKenton 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm not sure we could even compare this to an Oedipus Complex. (it's there for sure, but so far and beyond)
@becausegang7266
@becausegang7266 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Perkins and his portrayal of Norman Bates was/is absolutely fantastic, what an actor
@pupthelovemonkey
@pupthelovemonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You just dont see it coming, even though it shows him talking for extended scenes, and becoming emotionally vulnerable. That's what really makes it stand out for me, a lot of other psychopaths would show hints at their psychosis when getting emotionally vulnerable wouldn't they?
@caseyw.6550
@caseyw.6550 3 жыл бұрын
Love him!
@Godzillafan1980
@Godzillafan1980 2 жыл бұрын
There would be NO JASON, FREDDY, pinhead, leatherface, Hannibal Lecter, Michael Myers, without Norman Bates... HE was the FIRST slasher villain
@adamford7808
@adamford7808 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Loved him in Franz Kafka's 'The Trial' too.
@rolmodel12.
@rolmodel12. 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100% Those eyes... brilliantly chilling.
@debrapaulsonphotography-da4857
@debrapaulsonphotography-da4857 3 жыл бұрын
How was Anthony Perkins NOT nominated for an Oscar for this performance? Janet Leigh was nominated for best performance in a supporting role, Hitchcock for Director, but not Anthony Perkins? The play of emotions across his face are amazing!
@holdenbauer1255
@holdenbauer1255 3 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not psycho was not well recieved when it first appeared in theaters. It was very disturbing material for the time and it took a while to be seen for the horror masterpiece we know it as today.
@Godzillafan1980
@Godzillafan1980 2 жыл бұрын
Norman Bates was the grandfather of ALL slasher villains he deserves to be honored in that way
@runlarryrun77
@runlarryrun77 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when an actor is that good, but keeps it subtle, it goes unnoticed by many.
@jimr4319
@jimr4319 2 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly.
@Godzillafan1980
@Godzillafan1980 2 жыл бұрын
Because the academy mostly refuses to acknowledge HORROR movies... rarely do they bother. EXORCIST won 2 Oscars.... that was almost 50 years ago.
@margekrumping
@margekrumping 3 жыл бұрын
More tragic than evil for me. Though its a tough one. An incestuous home environment warps a person. So much that I’d consider the trauma a significant mitigating factor.
@Passions5555
@Passions5555 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I grew up with an overbearing mother and had to deal with some serious Freudian trauma in order to grow up. Thankfully, I managed to deal with it at an early age.
@BAFFLing752
@BAFFLing752 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure it was physically incestuous, but emotionally like Ed Gein. Combine that with psychosis, and it's a time bomb.
@moustik31
@moustik31 3 жыл бұрын
If all victims of incest turned murderers, the world would burn. I have an eating disorder (among many issues), NOT corpses statched in my closet.
@numerum_bestia
@numerum_bestia 3 жыл бұрын
@@moustik31 if you were a victim of incest, I wouldn’t blame you for having corpses stashed in your closet. Just as long as those corpses are your abuser and/or the person that stood by and watched it happen to you. Murder can be justified but sexual assault can never be.
@mg3114
@mg3114 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis of Norman. I believe his mother was evil and through incest, and/or emotional incest plus physical and emotional abuse, trauma and neglect,she broke Normans mind and heart as a child. Therefore Normans split personality was created. I was wondering maby he cleaned up his mother's crimes as a child and he is re enacting trauma. Evil is so destructive it will destroy a person. I think this story was a fable about what an evil mother can do to a child. Thank you for your work, I have always wondered about Norman
@luxxerpolman470
@luxxerpolman470 3 жыл бұрын
there's this series on prime called 'bates motel' ; more or less a prequel, i dont know how much truth it holds or if it's based on the books at all, but in the show they show norma as quite the caring mother. sure, she might have lead him into his downward spiral but quite definitely her intentions were pure and she really did care for her child. it's quite interesting and i think you should check it out :)
@Redom.99
@Redom.99 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxxerpolman470 uhh na she’s pretty crazy in the show too and still emotionally manipulates Norman but there’s a lot more context to why the family as a whole is so messed up. Still a really good show tho
@williamloel
@williamloel 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody is born evil so I think so 🤷🏼‍♀️
@garretstevens742
@garretstevens742 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people tend to forget women can be just as bad as men it's just women tend to be more emotional and manipulative with them men but there are exceptions to the rule but I believe we all regardless of gender can be pure evil depending on the person
@williamloel
@williamloel 3 жыл бұрын
@Forsaken Pumpkin But these people exist in real life.
@ludovicoc7046
@ludovicoc7046 3 жыл бұрын
The three most terrifying words in cinema: BATES MOTEL VACANCY.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
I think Psycho III was the only time the motel came close to being full up.
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 3 жыл бұрын
Or Donald Trump unleashed
@emersedmilkk4163
@emersedmilkk4163 3 жыл бұрын
The three most unintentionally funny words in cinema: I AM PREGNANT
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 3 жыл бұрын
@@emersedmilkk4163 another three “with Trumps baby “😱😱😱💦💦
@HardwellFamily
@HardwellFamily 3 жыл бұрын
It's actually pretty good. Better than most movie names
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
That scene at the end when Perkins looks up at the camera still gives me the creeps. What great filmmaking.
@mrteaparty6090
@mrteaparty6090 2 жыл бұрын
How were camera placement and angles used to create suspense?
@Kaydiva318
@Kaydiva318 Жыл бұрын
with his mothers corpse watermaked in it... yes!!
@cartoonmaster2401
@cartoonmaster2401 Жыл бұрын
I believe that him looking at the camera was the first 4th wall break in the horror genre.
@professorgrimm4602
@professorgrimm4602 3 жыл бұрын
The f*cking jumpscare where the detective gets stabbed shook me so much when I first watched that film. The build-up is so great and you just don't expect it. I almost got a heart attack at that.
@edienandy
@edienandy 2 жыл бұрын
For real tho
@berniecioffoletti3398
@berniecioffoletti3398 Ай бұрын
Nice to know I'm in good company! That scene REALLY startled me. I know why they call scenes/movies like this "a chiller."
@ivyfoo502
@ivyfoo502 3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's possible to have empathy for the tragedy a person has suffered yet still deem then as evil, homemade evil perhaps, but evil non the less.
@jacksonreeder8125
@jacksonreeder8125 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he's necessarily evil, just severely mentally ill.
@mrmhj9925
@mrmhj9925 Ай бұрын
And the problem with that is, you’ll get yourself killed. Evil corrupts, it dose not create. Everyone has evil. Everyone and Norman fell too deep into the abyss.
@CHRB-nn6qp
@CHRB-nn6qp 4 күн бұрын
@@jacksonreeder8125 'Evil' is a tough thing to define. I think the best way to classify Norman is 'dangerous'. No matter how you feel about him, you should be able to agree that he can't be trusted.
@Jaderabbit3485
@Jaderabbit3485 3 жыл бұрын
In the book, it is actually stated that he was into taxidermy and occult books before he killed his mother and that it was the combination of those 2 things that was the "secret" of bringing his mother back, preserving her body and willing her spirit back into it. Near the beginning of Psycho 2, he does also mention that while he taxidermied forest animals, he actually wished he could have live one's as pets around the hotel.
@orangeandwater1538
@orangeandwater1538 2 жыл бұрын
I can now finally say that Anthony Perkins is one the greatest actors in Hollywood. That stuttering and uneasiness, looks so natural and that smile in the end creeps me out.
@jonathandaykin3067
@jonathandaykin3067 3 жыл бұрын
I think Norman wants to love and be loved. Sadly "mother" controls him n won't let him love anyone else but her
@lol-wg6gu
@lol-wg6gu 2 ай бұрын
Honestly last Johnathan I met at circulus riverbank. Literally looked like Norman Bates. He would even act like our boss was his mom. No correlation honestly but he was the reason I'm here. Honestly weird but interesting
@highschoolhistorian6332
@highschoolhistorian6332 2 жыл бұрын
The Hitchcock stare at the end is so iconic.
@Hidfors
@Hidfors 3 жыл бұрын
Having gone through severe childhood abuse and neglect from my mother - which resulted in C-PTSD - I can't say I'm shocked over Norman's behaviour. The most common reaction to abuse after a very long time is rage. Uncontrollable rage. You don't want to be violent, not at all. The best way to put it is that if you're pushed and pushed and pushed too far, taught never to fight back. Never say no, never say stop. Well, at some point, you explode and it's far beyond any sort of mitigating control. The cup runeth over, if you will. When Norman murdered his mother and her lover, I don't believe it was out of some Oedipus complex because he has sexual desires to his mother. It's more like he's addicted to her. Always being told how to act, who to be, always bossed around by his mother. Now here comes a new man and gets all that attention, leaving Norman to fend for himself. I think *that* is the thing that triggers his supressed rage and he kills his mother and her lover. But then again, maybe it's just oedipus complex. I'm not Norman's brain, and I don't think we're given enough information in the movie to make any sort of reliable estimation. Is Norman evil. No. His actions certainly are, but he wasn't given a fighting chance in hell. I don't really believe in multiple personality disorder as it's depicted here, but for the sake of argument, we're sticking to what we see in the movie. Based on that I would hope he was sentenced to spend a lot of time in a mental institution, rather than ending up on death row. But I'm kinda biased, of course.
@Flashjackmak
@Flashjackmak 3 жыл бұрын
I must say that the films of Alfred Hitchcock never appealed to me at first, but they really grew on me after I saw The Birds. The Birds was a genuinely tense film and I was surprised at that when I first watched it. The idea of birds attacking humans on a huge scale sounds like the plot to some Syfy channel B-movie (like Sharknado and, fittingly, Birdemic) but when treated with a degree of seriousness and with cinematography that allowed it to be frightening rather than comedic it ended up being very effective. As for Psycho, it's not my favourite but I enjoyed it for the same reasons I loved The Birds. I think Hitchcock did a really great job at taking mundane things like flocks of birds or a motel run by a lonely man and making them frightening.
@monologue743
@monologue743 2 жыл бұрын
Me too ! 😁
@MrJohnlennon007
@MrJohnlennon007 2 жыл бұрын
Rope is a fantastic movie, I’d highly recommend it.
@monologue743
@monologue743 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJohnlennon007 thank you . 😁
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 2 жыл бұрын
Analyzing Evil: The Birds from The Birds
@RachelG1979
@RachelG1979 2 жыл бұрын
I love Rebecca, won best picture
@jeffreyworthen7033
@jeffreyworthen7033 Жыл бұрын
From 15:38 - 16:15 that final scene of Norman Bates (Anthony Perkins R.I.P.) when he finally breaks the fourth wall to look directly at us to this day still sends a chill through me.
@suzannehastings8182
@suzannehastings8182 2 жыл бұрын
There was an oatmeal ad in the 80s where Anthony Perkins is re-enacting Norman Bates, and saying “Yes mom, I’m eating my oatmeal!” That used to crack me up!
@rucianapollard7098
@rucianapollard7098 Жыл бұрын
I don't remember that one
3 жыл бұрын
I think back to the scene where Norman is sinking Marion's car in the swamp behind the motel. The scene ends with Norman casually smoking a cigarette and smiling as the car disappears. Norman is satisfied that he's removed all traces, and he's pleased with himself at how clever he is. We're left with the impression that he's done this before, and now he's gotten pretty good at it, and he knows it. That shows a degree of evil, if you ask me.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
At the end it's revealed that as Mother Norman had killed 2 other women before because when the psychiatrist asked the 2 cops if they had any unsolved missing persons cases and they said 2 Dr Richmond asks if it was 2 young girls who'd gone missing.
@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613
@edgarallanpoestheblackcat6613 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 Weren't there more than just 2?
@p_nk7279
@p_nk7279 3 жыл бұрын
He’s eating nuts/candy, not smoking.
@caseyphelps6232
@caseyphelps6232 2 жыл бұрын
He’s eating a treat at the time and just likes candy
@normanbates2486
@normanbates2486 2 жыл бұрын
It's called dark comedy and I only laughed out of relief because I was scared it paused for a bit... ;)
@Moszan
@Moszan 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh, Norman looks like he might have an Oedipus Complex.
@Stormkrow280
@Stormkrow280 3 жыл бұрын
It really shouldn’t be called that.
@NaturalMonroe
@NaturalMonroe 3 жыл бұрын
Freud would love hin
@AuteurGamer
@AuteurGamer 3 жыл бұрын
You should do videos on Hannibal Lecter, Buffalo Bill and Francis Dolarhyde.
@gahya1047
@gahya1047 3 жыл бұрын
🔥
@AuteurGamer
@AuteurGamer 3 жыл бұрын
@Wynn Wynn He’s also called the Tooth Fairy or the Red Dragon. He’s the villain in the novel and movie Red Dragon
@annabelvanpelt1196
@annabelvanpelt1196 3 жыл бұрын
All characters from Hannibal series! 😁 I love that series.
@dying101666
@dying101666 3 жыл бұрын
also, Mason Verger
@michaelgillis2724
@michaelgillis2724 4 ай бұрын
The video ends with Norman smiling as the narrator says, “I’ll be seeing you…soon.” Nice.
@jamesklatt
@jamesklatt 3 жыл бұрын
Planning to do one on hannibal lecter.
@PapaRikkiBalls
@PapaRikkiBalls 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 3 жыл бұрын
Are you speaking from your alternate personality as the Vile Eye?
@moustik31
@moustik31 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yes! I loved the books 😊
@isiboy
@isiboy 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, so you want a.... Hannibal lecture?
@tommynazer1800
@tommynazer1800 3 жыл бұрын
@@isiboy we love this.
@michaelhamm3234
@michaelhamm3234 3 жыл бұрын
Profile suggestion: John Doe from SE7EN.
@SillyGooseSam
@SillyGooseSam 3 жыл бұрын
I second this. What an awesome movie
@clarissefricks2137
@clarissefricks2137 3 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@kalinandreev9780
@kalinandreev9780 3 жыл бұрын
Yeeeeessss
@shanarasaunders7331
@shanarasaunders7331 3 жыл бұрын
whats in the BOX!?!!
@sophiabrown5608
@sophiabrown5608 3 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing, love to hear it because it won't be easy going on what the film gives us. The John Doe comics are great source material for getting more background on the character.
@carterbergland9264
@carterbergland9264 3 жыл бұрын
I think Norman should be labeled as a victim. I’ve watched all the other films and taking them into account, Norman has been emotional abused from a very young age with his mother giving very little exposure to the outside world. Then adding the fact that her boyfriend was a jerk to Norman, seems like enough to tip Norman over the edge. This makes me believe Norman’s poisoning of his mother and her boyfriend were more of an act of pushing back against the mother who pushed him into a corner rather than an act of violence simply because of jealousy. This would also explain why he cleans up after his mother’s kills because the last time Norman fought back, he ended up killing 2 people. Now his response of poisoning his mother instead of getting actual help is still questionable but he was a teenager and likely didn’t know the best way to respond because he’s never known outside help. With all this into account and the fact the jury found him innocent on the plea of insanity makes me believe he’s a victim much more than he is a perpetrator. Btw I’d love to see you do the bates motel tv show
@normanbates2486
@normanbates2486 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing you said that was true was that my mother's boyfriend was a jerk!
@schizoidboy
@schizoidboy 3 жыл бұрын
I feel he's a tragic villain, someone whose actions made him worse. I suppose there were others who stayed at the motel, who perhaps were not attacked by Norman, but I suppose that it all depends on his victims. The aforementioned missing girls were girls he felt an attraction too, but his plays into his upbringing where his mother prevented him from maturing sexually; in a sense Norman's mother is just as much a villain as he is. Whatever happened to him growing up stunted his sexuality making him hostile to the opposite sex. I wouldn't be surprised if his mother persona dictated who lived or died who came to the motel.
@lovely1641
@lovely1641 Жыл бұрын
It's like a warped Oedipus complex
@roninskater1385
@roninskater1385 3 жыл бұрын
I want to see Pamela Vorhees. She's definitely got a lot going on
@peytonkirk106
@peytonkirk106 3 жыл бұрын
I second this
@russianvalkyrie2358
@russianvalkyrie2358 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@morgantarot3351
@morgantarot3351 3 жыл бұрын
yes!
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
Pamela Voorhees and Norman's mother Norma were equally insane but at least Pamela actually loved Jason and after his apparent drowning she lost her mind, became convinced she could hear him talking to her and telling her to kill and decided to do anything to permanently shut Camp Crystal Lake down like poisoning the water, burning down some of the camp cabins, killing the 2 counsellors in 1958 she believed were too busy having sex to save Jason and then her full on killing spree in 1979 which ended when Alice decapitated her in self defence. Norma on the other hand abused Norman, developed incestuous feelings for him and encouraged his for her, kept him isolated from everyone but her and thought every woman except her was a whore.
@roninskater1385
@roninskater1385 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 you speak only facts
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
10:01 By pulling the dress and wig off while "Mother" was in control Sam probably drove Norman to complete insanity since the triggers to the alternate personality were taken away. Lila and Sam finally exposing his secret life was the last push over the edge.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 3 жыл бұрын
At least now, Norman wouldn't hurt a fly.
@Margatatials
@Margatatials 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard that it isn't unheard of for overbearing or controlling single mothers (with other issues themselves) to treat their sons as a sort of emotional husband. this combined with the more recent discovery that DID is usually connected to childhood sexual abuse makes me think your theory about the jealousy he felt of his mother getting a new lover a really solid one
@Dude_Abides
@Dude_Abides 3 жыл бұрын
Most definitely wish to see a video about Norman in the TV show
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 2 жыл бұрын
8:28 In the kitchen he probably rapidly switched personalities with Norma finally taking control, Norman putting on the dress and wig, going to cabin 1 and stabbing Marion to death in the shower.
@kgeo2686
@kgeo2686 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing this footage it really seems like Freddie Highmore was spot on for Norman in Bates Motel.
@winterramos4527
@winterramos4527 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@rexonatyleer3500
@rexonatyleer3500 3 жыл бұрын
Lol the movie makes it even stronger
@mullaoslo
@mullaoslo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes he was, but does this mean you watched bates motel WITHOUT watching Psycho first?????
@winterramos4527
@winterramos4527 3 жыл бұрын
@@mullaoslo he never said he did or didn't watch the film prior to watching Bates Motel. My theory is that K Geo111 watch the film years ago but can't recall it too much, but Bates Motel caught his eye and loved it so much that he had the urge to see this clip. It's a hunch
@mullaoslo
@mullaoslo 3 жыл бұрын
@@winterramos4527 yeah I was only asking since he started the sentence with seing this footage.. As in he hasn't seen it before.. Of course it doesn't really matter either way its just weird for me to see anyone even getting into bates motel without having a relationship with psycho..
@henrikgullikstad6318
@henrikgullikstad6318 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched a lot of horror movies etc but this character scared and frighten me. The way he is trapped by his own mind gave me shivers
@JerryFisher
@JerryFisher 2 жыл бұрын
Norman is hands down one of the most fascinating characters to have crossed the silver screen. The presenter does a great job of noting the variables that led to Norman as an adult. As a society, we abhor context because it can muddy up our demand for a neat, tidy, absolute decision. I don't begrudge judges and juries when it comes to rendering verdicts. Life is a messy thing.
@eddiewinters7184
@eddiewinters7184 3 жыл бұрын
The acts are surely evil. He is tragic but at the same time he protects himself from detection so that part could be considered evil.
@kimmolaine8069
@kimmolaine8069 3 жыл бұрын
Perkins got robbed in the Oscars. I think Norman was pretty much a result of a twisted upbringing, rather than anything else.
@Beautybybllc
@Beautybybllc 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love bates motel soooo much. It shows us what his real mother was like. And why she was the way she was as well. Great content. I'd love to see one about bates motel too
@betsady4076
@betsady4076 3 жыл бұрын
Bates Motel is just one take not further explanation and it has an agenda, the real story comes from the book, Bates Motel painted an emphatic version of her like a victim of circumstances, and painted Norman as if he was born crazy.
@armedwithwings3953
@armedwithwings3953 3 жыл бұрын
@@betsady4076 no after his father died is when he got disturbed
@betsady4076
@betsady4076 3 жыл бұрын
@Racist Person I don't think you understand the take.
@betsady4076
@betsady4076 3 жыл бұрын
@Racist Person you would understand I said the opposite of that but keep making a fool of yourself
@normanbates2486
@normanbates2486 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, come to the Bates Motel, 12 cabins, 12 vacancies! 🙂
@michaelmassey8438
@michaelmassey8438 2 жыл бұрын
The crazy thing is on the bate motel show Norman mother was so possessive because she knew he was a killer and she tried to keep him close so it gives you a better perspective about her that show makes me look at the movie different
@loworochi
@loworochi 3 жыл бұрын
Norman cleaning after his mother is like post nut clarity
@NVG444
@NVG444 3 жыл бұрын
WHY? JUST WHY?
@lawshorizon
@lawshorizon 3 жыл бұрын
LOL. ... That's sounds about right. Bates enjoyed killing (or re-enacting the original murder of his dear mother). Then, after he got his satisfaction, he went to work cleaning up the mess. His "mother persona" was just a psychological band-aid to excuse himself.
@loworochi
@loworochi 3 жыл бұрын
@@NVG444 cuz it just works like that
@NVG444
@NVG444 3 жыл бұрын
@@loworochi AAHHH
@J_Braz_
@J_Braz_ 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my, I need my smelling salts. 🥜
@zarasbazaar
@zarasbazaar 3 жыл бұрын
Norman is eager to please and to be liked. Is this the same as being a nice guy? He knows how to mimic a nice person, but his anger at people is just bubbling beneath the surface.
@derekmatzek9551
@derekmatzek9551 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite moments in The Simpsons is when Principal Skinner claims he owes everything he has to his mother’s watchful eye and swift hand and opens the curtains and starts talking madness
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 3 жыл бұрын
I love the idea in Psycho 2 where Tom Holland's script made Norman sane while the rest are insane and it worked. It's pretty sad at the same time thanks to Jerry Goldsmith's score. The other 2 sequels are worth a watch, not amazing but they have their moments. Rob Ager did an analysis on the first 2 psycho films including the trailer of the original. They are interesting.
@Xehanort10
@Xehanort10 3 жыл бұрын
I like Psycho II but retconning Mrs Spool into being Norma's sister and Norman's supposed "real mother" was stupid. They should have just had him dig Norma up again and bring her body back to the house after Lila and her daughter Mary drove him insane again.
@jwnj9716
@jwnj9716 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 Yeah I get what you mean but for me, I didn't mind it plus you get a memorable ending with the shovel. At times I prefer Psycho 2 more than the 1st.
@ateam404
@ateam404 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 Psycho 3 revealed that she wasn’t his mother. Just shovel to the head Mrs. Poole. Norman I don’t believe thought that either. He has just sank back in to the sunken place and used her as a fill in for the chair.
@chrislittman
@chrislittman Жыл бұрын
Psycho 3 was just awful, there was no point to it. 1 is a masterpiece and 2 is great
@rymmokhtari8778
@rymmokhtari8778 3 жыл бұрын
Matin Freeman reminds me of him in the Fargo series. He was a very different character, a very different kind of evil: a weak and cowardly man who would do absolutely anthing to get out of a problem. But his facial expressions, though comical, are very close to Norman Bates' final scene. I love your serial. Please do Tony Soprano!
@Qasde423
@Qasde423 2 жыл бұрын
Norman was mentally unstable way before killing his mother and her lover. Their murders actually threw him over the edge, deep into the hallway of his mind where he couldn't escape.
@doxiemomma8207
@doxiemomma8207 2 жыл бұрын
The newer TV series from 2012 takes place in present day and we see Norman's mother alive and interacting with him. She has extreme powers of manipulation and emotional control over him as a 17 year old high school student.
@fashizzle78
@fashizzle78 2 жыл бұрын
Norman Bates shouldn't count as "evil" since the character suffered from a severe mental disorder he had no control over ..he was a psychotic not a psychopath
@obidasauceman6140
@obidasauceman6140 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect content for a lazy Sunday
@BlakeGildaphish76
@BlakeGildaphish76 Жыл бұрын
The original Psycho is one of my most cherished childhood movies. It scared the shit out of my 6 or 7 years old self, but it also fascinated me. i figured that a fear of taking showers was an even trade for enjoying a VERY good horror movie. Seriously, i only took baths until i was 15 .
@VgnRaj
@VgnRaj 3 жыл бұрын
Whether or not he is evil, is not important as to what the consequences need to be for him as well as treatment. Many people over the years have had complex relationships with loved ones (mothers in this case), fueled by Mental Health challenges but (like you said), have not led tomurder or a furthering of their Psychosis. Norman is very unique but also shares in many other sufferers like him. His life and illness are tragic. We would do best to empathize with the man while learning from his actions.
@lesmorris10
@lesmorris10 3 жыл бұрын
Every person is different,,,there are the one's who can somewhat adjust to whats happened to them in early life..then you have the percentage that are just to fragile and act out in destructive ways, that harm themselves and others.
@SillyGooseSam
@SillyGooseSam 3 жыл бұрын
I would definitely love to see something about Bates Motel!
@072kratos
@072kratos 8 ай бұрын
When norman killed his mother it was a mix of alot of emotions that maybe were in norman without him knowing growing up like that effects you
@TheLukeMonster
@TheLukeMonster 3 жыл бұрын
8:11 - interesting. I just saw the movie again recently, and when I saw the setup for that shot, I thought Hitchcock was insinuating that Norman almost went upstairs as a way of "taking the high road," but instead opted to stay below, in his own personal hell. It slipped my mind that his mother's corpse was upstairs, so your take makes more sense.
@ateam404
@ateam404 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the channel. Maybe do Norman from the perspective of the TV show Bates Motel which give a ton of backstory and ends before this movie begins. The actors did a superb job
@StefanBorglycke
@StefanBorglycke 3 жыл бұрын
The one moment I never really got in Psycho was that part at the end, when he gets stopped from attacking the woman in the basement and starts cramping up like that, it just seemed like a weird choice to me... But if it's the paralysing shock of suddenly being brought out of scizophrenic psycosis I do feel like it makes much more sense now. Can't wait to watch it again sometime.
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call him evil, he was jealous of his mother's relationship and acted in the moment. He loved his mother more than anything so he wouldn't tell on her.
@iEcksy
@iEcksy 3 жыл бұрын
So, of course the closing scene with the fly is iconic, but something I recently learned that flies attracting to a person is also a sign of demonic possession. Interested to know if that was also part of the decision process in including it.
@itaintova8309
@itaintova8309 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he prolly just stank lmao jk that’s interesting though..
@bigrich8926
@bigrich8926 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I do agree with your analysis that Norman killing his mother was an evil act, and the rest of the murders he committed were a result of his mental illness, and that leads to my opinion that evil acts could trigger some form of mental psychosis since most people refuse the possibility that they are even capable of committing evil acts. Like the psychiatrist said at the end of Psycho, Norman had to erase the crime that he committed from his own mind, which lead to him developing an alternate personality for his mother. This same form of insanity driven by guilt is displayed in Crime and Punishment. I'll subscribe to this channel and can't wait for your next video!
@kainkong274
@kainkong274 2 жыл бұрын
Norman is honestly my second favorite villain of all time wit first being anton chigurh
@rucianapollard7098
@rucianapollard7098 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Hannibal Lector
@dayzdove
@dayzdove 3 жыл бұрын
“Norman is a nice guy” Nice guy or “Nice guy”?
@wolfgangoppenheimer2905
@wolfgangoppenheimer2905 3 жыл бұрын
Nice guys being virgin since 1960
@lucymcnamara4558
@lucymcnamara4558 3 жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangoppenheimer2905 exactly 😂
@DaveRCollins1
@DaveRCollins1 3 жыл бұрын
I recently watched this film. Hitchcock had me screaming at the screen due to the level of suspense and casting. Absolutely incredible. Bates was so attached and unbalanced. And CUNNING
@bangobuck8722
@bangobuck8722 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear your analysis on the show Bates Motel, I feel like Norman is more of a tragic character as the show makes it pretty clear that the murder of his mother was caused by his long pre existing mental illness, and most of the time Norman tries to do the right thing (Eventually turning himself in after attempting to kill his brother)
@twilightedwardbella9
@twilightedwardbella9 3 жыл бұрын
Anthony Perkins was always a babe and such a good actor
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108
@davidpumpkinsjr.5108 2 ай бұрын
While watching the Bates Motel tv series, I was surprised to see that the Bateses weren't even the most insane people in that town. I couldn't help but think "Is there something in the water?"
@jaymcc845
@jaymcc845 9 ай бұрын
Great video and I thought your analysis for Norman/ Norma was great considering the movie is all you had to go from. I'd be fascinated to see your results from the Bate's motel characters as they're both really well fleshed out in this series,
@gen-x-zeke8446
@gen-x-zeke8446 3 жыл бұрын
The house and background sky gets my attention.
@EddyTheMartian
@EddyTheMartian 2 жыл бұрын
Norman Bates is one of my favorite characters in fiction, and I'd love a analysis of the sequels and Bates Motel, especially Bates Motel as it has a lot more to analyze and also it kinda changes certain things.
@EdwardHill-oh3vr
@EdwardHill-oh3vr 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully you can pull these up. Childs play, casino with nikky , king of new york, frank white, menace to society, Odog.
@Mari-vw6xx
@Mari-vw6xx Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the Bates motel Norman be analyzed. Because we see his actual decline into madness. He starts off as a normal boy with an overbearing mother, then the mother gets more normal and Norman completely goes mad.
@wingflanagan
@wingflanagan 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh. Difficult! But I think the whole "is he responsible?" thing is a red herring. The answer is "of course!" Why? Because the mother side of his personality IS him. So is the non-mother side. They are BOTH him. Saying he is not aware of the crimes he has committed is simply untrue. At best, one part of his mind is not aware. The other part certainly is. It's all him. Does he belong in an institution rather than prison? I think so. But this is a different matter from saying he is not responsible for his actions. He is guilty AND mentally ill. One does not preclude the other. Love your analyses, BTW. Glad you got the copyright thing straightened out, as this video is almost the definition of fair use.
@fluff975
@fluff975 2 жыл бұрын
one does not preclude the other, but often one can outweigh the other. do u think his evil was more predicated on disorientation through his illness or the uglier aspects of his actual character?
@tonym994
@tonym994 3 жыл бұрын
Hitchcock actually wrote Simon Oakland(shrink)to thank him for ''saving" his film w/ his summation at the end.
@kimdoe3374
@kimdoe3374 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this movie when I was a kid and I had a huge crush on Tony Perkins (even though he was decades older than me). I am so glad you decided to focus on Norman Bates (Psycho 1) for this episode. My personal interpretation was that his situation was tragic. Although he committed the murders of his Mother and her bf, the question of his malevolence depends on the extent of the abuse from his Mother. Psychologically she was abusive and her treatment of her son when her bf was around may have had some influence on his final decision to kill them both. There is no mention of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was physically abused and humiliated as well (this would explain the low-self esteem). He may have justified his loyalty toward his mother and her getting a bf that changed everything as the ultimate insult therefore he had to take measures to adjust to this new situation. If it appeared that his Mother held her bf at a higher regard than her son, he likely felt jealousy which was a combination of lust and a need to ensure that he would be taken care of in her estate. Perhaps he wanted to ensure that the bf would never get any of his Mother's money and property especially since he probably took care of her until her bf showed up. If the humiliation was demonstrated in front of her bf, then his feelings would only exacerbate in this abusive environment. Since his Mother was his world, and the motel was their only source of financial stability (including their house), he may have felt like he had no choice, but to kill them both. The low self-esteem and awkwardness likely made him feel like he would never make it out in the real world on his own. You may be able to tell that I have contemplated this for quite some time.
@meemmeem9565
@meemmeem9565 Жыл бұрын
A piece of dialogue from this film is actually used in a Bastille cover of the song no scrubs
@Jennycosmo1
@Jennycosmo1 3 жыл бұрын
You do such a great job 💜
@JustTooDamnHonest
@JustTooDamnHonest 3 жыл бұрын
I saw this film in two of my film classes in high school and college and Alfred Hitchcock was truly a master of his craft and Norman Bates was his near perfect villain in this film. Also you are correct VE. along with Leatherface, Norman Bates was inspired by serial killer Ed Gein.
@bryant5233
@bryant5233 3 жыл бұрын
i just went on a binge and watched a bunch of your videos, you earned sub! very entertaining and made me want to go back and rewatch these classics. Keep up the good work!
@Kaydiva318
@Kaydiva318 Жыл бұрын
SAM: But .. why was he....DRESSED LIKE THAT??!! lmfaooo
@stefangermanski2668
@stefangermanski2668 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad i found this channel, so fascinating!
@bloodydru
@bloodydru 3 жыл бұрын
all of your video are super incredible and I absolutely love the content you are making!! :)
@nicklasvoncloust5001
@nicklasvoncloust5001 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis man. This case is "tricky" as there are 2 personalities here between Norman and his "mother." When I was young, I thought this case was of "split personality" but no it's a psychopath case. Now when we see Norman cleaning up the bloody murder of Crane, normally a District Attorney would conclude Norman knew right from wrong and tried to cover up the murder but in Norman's mind, he thought he was simply just covering up for his mother who killed his victims, not the latter. Norman is sick no doubt and terrifying from his victim's point of view. He's clearly not guilty of first degree homicide.
@KEN-1991
@KEN-1991 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: In the book version of Psycho™, the original Norman Bates back in '59 looked like Al McWhiggin from Toy Story™ 2, another villainous character that made his debut during Psycho's 40th anniversary. Oddly, Norman costumes as his mom, while Al costumes as a giant chicken, both characters live steps away next to their name-owned work places.
@witchingbrew3
@witchingbrew3 2 жыл бұрын
fun fact about that is the villians from toy story were inspired by an ex coworker who provided a toxic environment at Pixar in its early days. He would do little things that made the workplace uncomfortable, like Al McWhiggin and Sid.
@Jazzbur
@Jazzbur 3 жыл бұрын
I found you from your One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest video, and I've been watching a ton of your videos yesterday and today. These breakdowns are fantastic. I haven't got a chance to watch him on film yet, but one character that I think would be really fun to see you dissect would be Hannibal Lecter. He seems like a very complex character with tons of layers to search through. Keep up the great work man, these videos rule!
@ffa2dramachick
@ffa2dramachick 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice sounds like a 1950's movie announcer! It gave me warm vibes!
@Kaydiva318
@Kaydiva318 Жыл бұрын
i was about to say the same thing
@hangeishot7919
@hangeishot7919 11 ай бұрын
The Vile Eye. One of my favorite episodes.
@Behindthesauna
@Behindthesauna 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos! Such excellent integrity with each episode. So many good villains out there. Keep up the great work 👍
@EvilDick1995
@EvilDick1995 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see you cover Bates Motel. That show was amazing
@Ilovelechonk
@Ilovelechonk 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see analysis on the whole series and the tv show. Normal’s character is very complex. If more people ask then I’ll look forward to more content! 😁
@lucasgrezaud6582
@lucasgrezaud6582 5 ай бұрын
Psycho 4: The Beginning is UNDERRATED and i can’t say that enough. as much as i love Freddie Highmore in Bates Motel, i do think Henry Thomas made for a great young Norman in Psycho 4. i wish people talked about that one more!
@PortugueseKeto
@PortugueseKeto 3 жыл бұрын
This series is fantastic. I just discovered this channel and I’ve binged through three videos so far. I’m excited to keep going
@jasonbrowning6247
@jasonbrowning6247 3 жыл бұрын
Yo. A bates motel examination would be dope!
@Drew_Thompson
@Drew_Thompson 3 жыл бұрын
You know who you should analyze next, tony soprano.
@judywright4241
@judywright4241 3 жыл бұрын
----oooh, nice one!! Or what tortures Michael Corleone himself, why was Vito loved so much but he (Michael) is not. Both were merciless in revenge, but Vito was more discreet in every way.
@Nai-qk4vp
@Nai-qk4vp 3 жыл бұрын
@@judywright4241 Vito had a certain goodness that Michael didn't. His utter ruthless acts could still be understandably interpreted as done for family. Some acts could be even justified from a certain point of view , such as killing Don Fanucci and Don Tomasino. He had some form of standard and cared deeply for his family. He wanted Michael to to not live the life he lived, for him to lead a straight life. Yet Michael plunged into the criminal underworld and in his slow and steady downfall he told himself this lie that he did what he did for family yet he was responsible for the downfall of his family, his ego, his unstoppable, led to it(coming so far as fratricide). All his father worked for he undid. That's why I believe Vito is the more sympathetic.(And by far the less ruthless one as well).
@reginayfavors
@reginayfavors 3 жыл бұрын
Simply beautiful. I think Norman is troubled. I think there is a part of him that knows he kills and the part that doesn't know he kills. I also think his "evil" is soothing, helping him work through the chaos in his mind. Killing brings a definiteness. But what does he do when there isn't a target? That's when the question of evil might not be applicable. I just love your work.
@MorningStarMoonChild
@MorningStarMoonChild 8 ай бұрын
Oooooo I’d love an analyzing evil episode on Norma Bates based on the Bates Motel TV series
@christianhenderson2248
@christianhenderson2248 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, keep up the good work
@jasonsantos3037
@jasonsantos3037 7 ай бұрын
Let's just say Norman Bates is just a mama's boy.
@esmeraldaloschuetz9120
@esmeraldaloschuetz9120 3 жыл бұрын
I´ve watched a few of your videos, and this is the very first time you actually pose the morality question: Whether he´s evil, or tragic, or can be held responsible, etc. I´ve missed that with characters like the Joker.
@noahd88
@noahd88 3 жыл бұрын
Your channels is one of the few that I keep checking to make sure I didn't miss a video. Great content! I know you will hit a million subscribers soon.
@dianaszuts398
@dianaszuts398 3 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! Maybe one about Vilanelle from Killing Eve? :)
@thenicklas615
@thenicklas615 2 жыл бұрын
"Mother, mother, blood, it's blood mother!!!!" Yes, Norman's cross dressing isn't neccessary sexual at all it's, more like his mother's personality taking him over. This movie gave genuine birth to what we all know now as the "slasher genre" right here. Hitch single handedly created this by himself. Norman is definitely menatlly ill, however, he knows right from wrong. He can also be evil as well. There would be no Halloween or Friday the 13th without Psycho IMO. Excellent anaiysis from the narrator...
@rusi6219
@rusi6219 Жыл бұрын
I miss the time when the only crossdressers in entertainment were portrayed as psychotic as they all are in real life
@sovereigndayyouthkafir3943
@sovereigndayyouthkafir3943 2 жыл бұрын
As methodical and comprehensive as your videos are, I like how this and your Michael Myers analyses have been inconclusive. There really is so much room for interpretation with those two; it's likely why both are such compelling characters.
@dromalloma2651
@dromalloma2651 3 жыл бұрын
Yay, a new upload! Always great to see one from this channel.
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