Please do Fletcher from Whiplash!!!

@@calebkeith2630 I need to watch that movie all the way through one day.

@@pezzz182 please do! the ending is astonishing

no offencsh John but I gotta IQ of 136, itsh been teshted

@@calebkeith2630 I'll have to check that movie out, thanks!

The breathing, dude. His loud ass breathing had the most lines of dialogue in the entire show.

I can picture him yelling "Muthafucka!" as he throws it.

@@AoKodo haha

😂😂🤣

You know he doesn't trust that cookie shit...

😂😂😂😂

He was a bit of a jerk, too.

@@briangriffin8106 -- Most people in a position of power are usually JERKS -- I think they think so highly of themselves and think so low about anyone who is beneath them

That really hurt my feelings!

HE WAS A HOOWAH!!

A. She was hoowah B. SHINEBOX

@@jazzs7480 And C…that wasn’t his kid she was carrying. (It absolutely was)

@@markf.9396 that was no kid, that was a grilled cheese in your belly. Made m Chef Leotard-OH

@@jazzs7480 Before…and *WAY* before! You hear that Tone?

@@markf.9396 some people are you there stuffing themselves lol

This deserves more likes lmao

OHHHH!

😂

Oh she knew. That’s why she rejected Tony’s advances

Small hands that was his problem.

True

we are all good and bad persons. we are all good and bad. One time i told a fellow i wasn't going to give him the car till the check became cash. He replied "but you know where i live , i have a sucessfull business, and i'm a Good Christian." To which i replied. "Mickey, mickey, mickey, that's what They all say. I never met a bad christian yet."

very interesting observation

@@NoName-id9jv you just spouted nonsense

Lots of criminals are funny and likeable, for some it’s a necessary part of the job

*THANK YOU.* It's a common mistake. He might count as an anti-villian, but I'd argue not even that.

@@Delightfully_Bitchy what is an anti-villain

I like this description seems to fit perfectly.

@@Delightfully_Bitchy What's the difference?

No he’s an antihero

Vito was killed because of the collective influence of the Mafia and their so called obsession with respect. As if anybody cared or their Crew wouldn’t get any respect already for just having a gay member with all the killings they’ve donde before killing Vito, it’s hypocritical. They are all mostly sexually delicate or insecure, Even Tony mentioned he did enjoy femalel on female sexuality but when it comes to men he is “disgusted”, it’s al hypocrisy produced by his crew and the need for constant approval and the need for constant respect as a Boss in the crew

Gay people suck boooo

Ya he likes wild animals, pets, small children, young women, old people occasionally get a break, tomato's & gays. The average human is on their own.

@@slavesdetach ? St8 yapper

You can’t blame someone over humanity’s mob mentality. If you show weakness you’ll be next.

and Phil since he did 20 years and not a peep.

@@TehUltimateSnakei jacked off in a tissue I compromised

@@TehUltimateSnakehe compromised.

My favorite character

Man I have been asking him to do one for literally months on Christopher!!! I really hope he does

Who?

wow... deep

@@user-wo5tc9ux7u Bravo Vince

Didnt Bryan Cranston say that?

@@mattjindrak there couldn't be a more detailed explanation of who he is, Vince Gilligan, the creator of Breaking Bad... a little known show about a gifted science teacher who gets terminal cancer and decides to produce crystal meth as a means to pay for his treatment and support his family after his demise with hilarious consequences... I can understand your confusion, hardly anyone watched it or have mentioned it online.

Your not that guy

Woke up this mornin... Got some gabagool

Hey! Youre talking to the boss here!

The toxins.

You look like Stevie wonder with your eyes rolling like that

Carmela whit one l

Loved how dude said he wasn’t charging her for the session because he doesn’t accept blood money.

im watching this show for the first time and when I saw that scene I had to assume that there was tons of research done on therapy by the script writers

My favorite scene of the show. That was basically a wake up call for the audience. If you were a legitimately good person, you were in the show for the blink of an eye because you wanted nothing to do with these people.

​@@futbolusa100%, and it's kinda crazy how many people miss the point while watching this show, idolizing tony or at least downplaying the abhorrent actions of the various characters. it's actually kind of a great barometer for personal morals. if someone finds themselves agreeing with most of tony's behavior or rather justifying it, you can get a rough idea of who they are as a person. i'm not saying you can completely sum up a person based on their opinions of a fictional story, just that you can get a general idea of the things they find acceptable or unacceptable on a moral scale.

Trying to cure oneself while you're responsible for murder, theft and suffering and pain of thousands of people, is probably the hardest conflict a man can have. That's why he has such a struggle with his morality. It's truly hard, but not impossible.

That's true but he only partially lets himself off the hook, in that he doesn't force himself to recompense or course correct in any way, however he still absorbs the guilt internally which manifests as slowly growing self-loathing.

That’s why he’s such a great character..so much depth and complexity when it came to who he was as a person. The whole dialogue of him and melfi about him and his crew of “soldiers” explains it all. As long as what he does(good or bad) is within the frame work of the mob he really had no guilt about it. It’s almost like he has 2 totally separate lives with a completely different personality to match each one of those lives.

@@rippindrummer666 good analysis

Whatever happened to Gary Cooper...

@@tapoemt3995 The strong silent type

@@rippindrummer666 is just Okay

Or a varsity shinebox.He had to compromise.

vArsIty aThLeTe

@Mattress Store Its undermining, and its the kinda thing that im teaching my kids NOT TO DO

Small hands, thats his problem!

@@Grandmaster-Kush daddy always said that

Livia.

@@skatefan9495 ...

Yes! So well said, she was also furious that Tony put her in the nursing home aka retirement community and wanted revenge

Nancy Marchand should have gotten ALLLL the awards for playing Livvia Soprano. Holy moly did she NAIL that role so utterly. That farewell episode where they so vividly show the effects of smoking is seared on my retinas. 🤣💔

Second paragraph really nailed it. Well observed. I've noticed this more & more the more I watch it.

Yes, thank you! I was surprised he didn't mention his daughter. For me it was obvious that he loved her the most. She was probably the only person in the world that could disrespect him and get away with it. There was a scene in the kitchen, I remember, between them that it was emotional since Tony is being honest with her and summarizes their relationship.

Tony definitely saw Meadow as the last pure female left in his life at that point cause she wasn't born into the mob life. Plus she speaks to his empathetic, sweet side he never gets chance to show

@@dtraversodt Very true, a woman that he would never want to sleep with for obvious reasons and one that he admires and nurtures (albeit in his own ways)

She woulda had the stones to be in the life. He loved that about her

Considering how meadow is probably the reason Tony was killed at the end, her not being next to him, therefore blocking the killer's shot. Those two have the closest relationship in the family

that's why he never made it as a varsity athlete

Correct.

I don't think he cared about what others believed. He had his own personal code. When confronted with social norms, he dismissed them as any other point of view he didn't personally subscribe to. Pretty common for criminals to have their own code, and it's usually based on what actions bring success within their environment.

See every other human being ever for examples

He actually did try to change a few times but he never followed through with either of them

On the other hand, could one argue that the mere fact that he needed to seek a moral justification for his self-serving behavior showed some psychological ambivalence and ethical conscience?

That second writing is just the first sentence with extra steps.

@@Rrr_558 Your reading comprehension needs improvement

You are correct

My interpretation as well. He kept saying it to people as though he was trying to convince himself...

I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY THAT NOTICED THANK YOU‼️‼️‼️

@@Lysergic_acid_diethylamide1943 Discontinue the lithium.

Subconsciously hating the role of the housewife laid upon her

He compromised. He wanted manicotti, but he ate grilled cheese off the radiator.

@@JordBrown91 that muhafuckin animal blundetto….

How'd you come to that conclusion? I don't think it was mentioned in the show?

Rad-iator.

Twenty f&@king

I see this as a Dante Allegieri reference. In The Inferno, Dante is stopped from going to heaven by a hungry wolf. "Feeding makes her hungrier... she mates with many beasts". This wolf symbolized the diabolical effects of avarice and greed. Just so, we watch Tony's metaphysical and insatiable "hunger" for everything denied to him grafually manifest on film as his growing voracious appetite.

Depression can do crazy things you your body. Food soothes alot of pain. But all the meals looked great. Myself i could eat

@@mjohnson5030 wow. yeah, you nailed it!

“You eat meat by the fuckin’ carload”

@@cherecrow2333 It's weird, when I'm depressed I eat a lot more, but when I'm extremely depressed I lose my appetite and barely eat. Then again when at the latter I only go out of bed to take a leak then go back to sleep.

That's what makes the shows so compelling and why they still hold up today! It makes you question your morals and how you were raised. It's hard not to look at them as icons which is fucked up

Because I feel like the point of sopranos as much as everyone disagrees is Tony was not at heart an evil man he was stuck wearing mask he could never take off even if he did terrible terrible things he didn’t want to be that person was a big cause Of his depression depression is being tired of urself the person you’ve portrayed however Tony could never truly come to this conclusion bc he has to be the strong silent type

@@saintsaint3948 A huge difference between the two shows is that Tony was born into this life and he knew little else, while Walt made a conscious decision to enter it.

Or you could just watch 2 horrible characters slowly self destruct. Never thought they're good guys. The writing on both shows were genius.

Yeah, that's not really true. Walt may be sympathetic from the start, but you're not meant to be rooting for him till the end, or at least not justifying his actions. I mean the show makes a point of showing his rich friends offering to basically solve his problems no strings attached, and he chooses to cut ties with them, insulting them in the process. That's not a show "getting you to make excuses" and they did that in season 1. And what about Sopranos? Most viewers seem to say about Tony that "the charm wore off" or "the show slowly tears back the façade". The whole first season his traumatic childhood and abusive mother are focused on, and he's the victim of an attempted hit by his own uncle that he then retaliates against. The first season does about as much work making him sympathetic as Breaking Bad did for Walt.

Yeah I noticed that too so I looked up how tall James Gandolfini was thinking he was like 6’4, turns out he was 6’0 which is tall, but makes me wonder how short everyone else in the show was lol

@@leroybrown7927 they probably put lifts in his shoes!!

Camera angles were everything in this show. Gandolfini was definitely a big guy but he was just slightly above average height. His mass did a lot of the work, but in most dialogue scenes the camera is looking up at him as he talks to another character, almost engulfing them. In his fight scenes he moves like a gorilla just throwing his weight around. He was smashing Ralph like a ragdoll. It’s actually amazing that Bobby was able to beat him fair and square in a fight, and it clearly bothered Tony severely as he’s always the toughest guy around

He did indeed. R.I.P., James.

Unique is putting it lightly, more like LEGENDARY

Facts, the only way someone else can take on that character is to go the way they did: by having his son take on the mantle

And the sky is blue.

You must’ve been at the top of your fuckin class

Can you educate me on who robin williams played as a evil person? I can’t think of the role

@@ashtonpain6867 Genie in Aladdin, obviously! Joking, Im curious as to what role he played where he was evil beyond maybe the hunter in Jumanji but is that really evil? lol

@@louis4529 man I ain’t get the joke now I feel like an ass my bad bro lol

@@louis4529 he played a villain called Sy Parish in one hour photo

@@ashtonpain6867 Don't know if OP was referencing it but Insomnia with Al Pacino. Underrated movie.

The best actors are always the ones who like to play against type.

You just dislike him because he's racist

Bobby swore and oath. The oath states you kill for the family. You would kill your own brother when ordering. Bobby had an easy life. He got paid good money to do nothing. And he paid for it being shot up.

Sharp as a fuckin' cue ball, this guy.

Well said

@@oliviav.3565 thank you ♥️

Yah makes sense actually well put.

Great points But I think it would be better put, “she’s of the family, but she isn’t in the family.” Just my literature-obsessed 2cents lol

@@DonRoyalX No, that doesn’t make sense. She’s “in the family”, as in she’s related by blood, but she’s not “of the family”, meaning she is different than them because she distanced herself. I didn’t make this up, which is why it’s in quotations. That’s literally what it means.

I agree, i’ve seen a lot of other people rationalize it as Davey asked for it because he kept insisting on being in the game but what Davey asked for doesn’t really matter because at the end of the day he was a small fish compared to Tony. Tony had a choice to make in that situation: not get involved in his family friend’s gambling problem or take advantage of him for his own gain. So easy for him to take the first option and write Davey off but his greedy, unempathetic and opportunitistic behavior drove him to the 2nd one.

Just because Tony said that doesn't mean he predicted that happening he's not the halfback of Notre Dame. Look who he's talking to it's degenerate gambler Davey who owes him lots of ziti. He can't sympathize with him he needs to be feared he needs his money. It was business at that point.

​@@user-ju2ut2dj1l I think it's deeper than that, I think Tony did it to hurt him because Dave was using him to get what he wanted like Tony does to others, for a guy who uses others all the time he really doesn't like being used himself.

@@user-ju2ut2dj1lTony did try to stop him from getting in, Davey manipulated his way into the game

The fact that his house looked like shit should be especially analyzed. What could that mean on a psychoanalytical level? A conflict within the self?

@@KevinFinkbeiner I'm glad you caught that Kevin. Very observant. The sacred AND the propane

exactly my thought, I commented on it on one of Sopranos clips.

Nope. The gabagool was tainted and poisoned his mind much like ergot poisoning.

@Inland Empire Absolutely right. No matter how many times I see it, that phrase _"Who am I?!? Where am I goin'?!?"_ sends chills all over, especially when he wakes up from the coma. That phrase is the heart of the show's existential exploration... I just happened to be rewatching the series, including that episode, the day we all learned of Gandolfini's passing... so surreal.

That is something him and his mother have in common

"Gabagool? Over here."- Silvio Dante

Yeah Tony, is definitely just a carbon copy of his father at least when he grew up, but he doesn’t want to admit it, and which is the reason he tries to get help by going to a psychiatric, but the way he flips out at Doctor Melfey, when she says something he doesn’t want to hear, or agree with, just literally shows he is very much like his father, and even has his fathers temper, and is just treating her like Johnny Boy, treated his mother.

@@joshshrum2764 Well said, those moments when Tony lashes out at Melfi just shows he refuses to change, which eventually lead to his death as that cut to black may had implied.

@@rdobson5413 I’m glad to hear you like my thoughts on the fact of the matter, but yeah it just shows he doesn’t wanna change, which is why the song King Nothing, playing in a episode is so fitting because Tony, is king nothing he wants to change everything, but is still stuck in his same old ways because he refuses to change he tries, and probably wants to deep down somewhere in him, but he freaks out instead of hearing her out because if he did he could actually change you feel he had character development, but it was never enough, and even though I haven’t finished the entire series i can tell that, plus and it’s why Melfi, just can’t stand him because he’s probably the hardest case she has ever had like dealing with a Italian mob boss isn’t easy for anyone especially a psychiatric, like he’s so bad she needs a psychiatric herself which is tragically funny, but i understand since Tony, scarred her because he was to much of handful. Yeah he just got to big in the mafia, and finally got popped, that’s just the way of the mafia world especially if you refuse to change, though i don’t believe in Tony’s, belief that once you die that’s it it just fades to black, i believe more in what Christopher, saw, and what Paulie, personally believes, but i guess for the context of the series his opinion was the real one which explains why death is so cruel, and sadding more reason being a ruthless mob boss makes you a big target because people really don’t like what your doing.

@@rdobson5413 While it is understandable why he is the way he is, the only way tony could have helped himself is admitting that he's actually not a victim and he's responsible for his every action, but he was constantly locked in his own past.

@@joshshrum2764 I'm gonna put my comments a ways down since I don't want to ruin anything for you at end. But I just wanted to add something that I thought was interesting reading these comments. Thar be spoilers ahead. At the end, when the camera pans out of the front of the deli, the only person you see for the family who really has any type of significance to the family is Paulie. Everyone else is either in jail, dead, or mentally gone. Yet there goes Paulie, doing what he's always done since the beginning of the show. Trying to get a tan and "basking in the glow." Earlier in the series he makes a statement saying "I survived the 70s by the skin of my balls!". Implying literally he's only surviving in this life, not living it. This is shown in many ways. He lives alone, lives for the family and has no other relationships outside of it. (he literally had a painting redone of Tony and has it in his apartment) and has shown many many times he will go to great lengths to carry out Tony's orders and not disappoint him. He also has many times where "religious" scenarios can come in for him showing, which I perceived as, his guilt and fear of the unknown. He sees The Virgin Mary in the Bada Bing, he See's a psychic who can apparently see the ghosts of the people he's killed, (very funny scene). He doesn't want to take the contractors job cause it's "cursed" and refers to the cat as evil. Mentioning the cat was staring at Chris' painting and they'll "suck the soul" out of you. He's an absolute creature of habit who will not change anything because he's survived so long doing it his way. Not changing anything. He'll explode in anger one minute, but he can be the funniest character in the entire show. A complete duality. He can get his job done, but on his terms and will only show his funny side to his peers or the ones he fears. As the camera pans out you can see the cat walking towards him with his eyes closed as usual. Which for me I took as one of two ways. "if I don't look, it won't hurt me" not wanting to break his habit and push his luck with his old wives tale about how cats are evil. Or how the cat is coming to finally take his soul as well, metaphorically. It's all cyclical for everyone in the end. No matter what you do or how you try to escape. Everyone has to pay their dues. Long post but Paulie to me, besides Tony, was one of the most interesting characters to analyze because there is so much to unravel behind his tough demeanor. On a completely different side note. I live in one of the major areas they would film. Never really got to talk to anyone but my parents met and spoke on many occasions with Vincent Curatola (Johnny Sack). Great stand up guy who loves the history of NYC and NJ. He was a pleasure to speak with. Everyone else I spoke with said the cast and crew were decent folks as well. But would cause one hell of a traffic jam when they would film outside of Satin Dolls lol. (The Bada Bing)

No shit. I'm always having dreams about working for Tony. He usually arranges for my wacking at the end of the dream..lol. No joke. And in the dream I feel dominated and intimidated by his presence..lol

@@aj5424 kinky

@@aj5424 what the fuck 😂😂

Lmao

I stopped watching TV for a while, a guy at work sold complete series DVDs of sopranos which I bought to gift to a relative. I too caught myself thinking agressive thoughts because of these mob series.

Messes with Bobby’s mind lol, wtf do these mobsters think the social club is? Sit around and play cards? It wasn’t evil that Tony sent Bobby to kill the fool, he was the boss and Bobby worked for him end of story…Bobby was in the wrong life if he felt squeamish about whacking folks

@@Aven-Sharma1991 it certainly was evil. just because it's expected of them doesn't mean it's a normal or excusable thing to do.

I think James would. However, I think if he was still alive, I could see him reviewing this as Tony in a video and losing his mind. Which I would love to see.

Yesssss

Taken too soon

@@leannerose6181 like heath ledger... his death made him an immortal legend

Like a lot of actors who have played iconic villains, he was reputed to be a wonderful person in real life.

Small hands that's his problem

Oooohhh! You're talking to the boss here! 🤘🤘

i dont like that kind of talk now stop it upsets me 😫

Thanks Uncle June.

WHY YOU GOTTA ALWAYS BRING THAT UP

Your mom wasn’t that bad.. she made me a pecan fritter last time I visited her. You just aren’t grateful. Marone..

Sorry to hear that, hope you're doing well

My grandmother god bless her soul, when watching the show we all look at each other cuz Livia quoted her alot

Wow, children picking up their parents traits? You’re so smart….nobody could’ve ever guessed that children inherited elements of their folks

Sort of started out as an anti-hero but turned into a full on villain later on.

@@LumpyAdams How was he an anti-hero?

@@adgone01 He said "sort of" which i agree. That thing with the teacher's car and the coach

Yeah he’s a bad guy despite all that there is one thing I’ll give him..he was a man of principle sometimes the things he did were actually justified even if it wasn’t morally justified in society’s eyes

finally? there are hundreds of videoessays on how tony is a despicable character

They'll read Sopranos scripts in schools 500 years from now, no different than Shakespeare or Socrates

To this day

psychiatrist even studies the series and won most accurate psychoanalysis

@ashy how about we recreate phil's end irl with you being phil?

Nah

yeah very emotional scene. and yet they say he's incapable empathy and fakes emotions. dumb

@Bhlack_Bishop I feel like that attitude is going the opposite extreme: Tony clearly feigns empathy and emotions throughout the show, most notably when he pretends to empathize with a friend who is suffering gambling debts when he really wants to own his shop. You can't blame people for generalizing him for no empathy when there's so many examples of him lacking it.

Tony Soprano is IMO the greatest fictional character ever created, much of that is credit to David Chase but NO one could have pulled off playing such a complex & well remembered character as James Gandolfini did. Amazing show I watched originally when on HBO and at least 4/5 other times since now. Every rewatch you can find new or nuanced layered thyings you may have not seen upon first viewing.

@@Delightfully_Bitchy You mean the friend he tried to protect by warning him 4 times not to get involved with his type of business, but he didn't listen and went ahead with it anyway. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sM-jqtCYntjYYIk.html "You can't blame people for generalizing.." I do actually because they let their emotions and subjective bias cloud their judgement.

@crassgop Think you replied to the wrong comment mate. I never called him a sociopath

you can even say if he's a great guy to hang out with if your in his good graces

@@andromeda7588 That's kinda how all humans work

We call this 'a man' It's normal to like Tony, that's the point of the show lmao all heros are flawed, humanity is flawed, judges reveal themselves by judging Tony He's chaotic GOOD.

@@looweegee252 chaotic good or chaotic neutral. He's hardly an evil person due to his love for animals. The evil things he does most people would do the same shit if they were in his shoes.

@@looweegee252 Yea but if you piss the average guy off, he doesn't try to strangle you and say he's going to chop your balls off. They usually just distance themselves from you.

@Ut1F70F Sin ok mr badass you got anything else you want to let us know before you disappear after you just wrote Jackie Chans prologue

your father never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

Yeah, my dad did the same.

I get that from the scenes of Tony with his mom. My dad was no Tony, for sure, but he was totally dominated by and terrified of my grandmother. My parents divorce stemmed a lot from issues he has that came from her and how she brought him up.

My dad was the same way

He should have taken better care of himself, he had a coke problem when he was younger and an alcohol problem and was known for having a eating problem even on set, had a thing for fried food especially.

@@SagaciousNihilist I never could understand why someone who has everything would work so hard at destroying themselves. Gandolfini was super rich. He could have had the best medical care. A personal trainer, nutritionist, etc. Weight watchers would probably have paid him millions to be their spokesman and lose 50-60 pounds. Smh.

@@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime Maybe deep down he didn’t care what happened to him. Wouldn’t be surprising.

how do you know no one else could have nailed that role?

@@Mostopinionatedmanofalltime You should get down on your knees and thank God that you don’t understand addiction. Addicts lead horrible lives, and it doesn't matter how much fame, money, and prestige they have.

maybe in the 70s and 80s. By the 90s things were much more loose.

I saw something where a mob guy sent a letter to James Gandolfini that said something along the lines of “Good portrayal, except the don wouldn’t be caught dead wearing shorts”

I think it was call to the writer at 2am. More ominous. Can't imagine a gangster licking a stamp.

@@orangewarm1 according to who

I mean Junior literally tried to murder Tony for going to therapy

How many people did Tony kill

@@elgato5631 Directly or indirectly?

@@lunatuna9313 indirectly

@@elgato5631 at least 2

@@elgato5631 what kinda stupid question is that? He ordered the deaths of multiple people as soon as he's the official boss. Adrianna The two black guys Christopher hired Philly Rusty Milio (a favor asked by John) That Puerto Rican dude The first Vito

He was the first guy to have the vac, open incision, less pulling on the outer dermis layer

Thank you for saving lives but 🤢🤮😂

😯😯😯What type of surgeon are you?

@@KristaGrym Surgeon General and Laparoscopy.

You’re a surgeon? Yay, awesome!!

Yeah but the movie really sucked.

You’re talking through your hat

It's strange because Livia also got emotional over that. It seems like after Tony suggested she get pills, she genuinely begin to believe her son was plotting against her.

@@Helmuesi911 I think it was good. If it was longer and they didn't pretend Tony was the main character in the trailers and other marketing, it would have been way better.

@@stanleysmooth lol 😆 that movie was so ridiculously terrible. Wow.

He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

mrmojok The hell he didn’t. That was the dumbest thing that junior ever said. He had the savvy to control Junior and Junior was too stupid to recognize it. He got ruled by everyone, Livia included. He said that because he knew Tony was like Johnny and it showed his own inadequacies.Very thin skinned.No varsity team that’s why he tried to project on Tony.

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@@mathewmcdonald3657 junior was actually very wise according to David Chase. He also stated that he’s his favorite character I suppose it’s all a matter of perspective

Oh yeah! Daddy used to say that

David Chase is a Clown 🤡. He has also said that the show ends with Tony alive and he did Not write Tony being Killed. He said Tony did Not die off screen. Chase also said he decided to let that final scene be whatever people thought it was. Chase was a Coward. He couldn't Kill Tony Soprano on the Screen because he thought it would turn off half the fans. He couldn't make it clear that he lived either. So the answer is Tony Did Not die because David Chase never wrote an ending. That is word for word what Chase said.

Bobby was the only one I really felt bad for

@Maniac 5000 doesn’t mean you can’t have empathy for Adrianna still. Why do so many hate her so much I’ll never understand

People hate Adrianna? That's news to me. When it comes to female characters getting hate, it's usually Janice and Carmella (In that order) but I got the impression that Adrianna was a favorite.

@@Delightfully_Bitchy yeah she gets a lot. Go to her death video or any prominent scene she’s in and lurk the comments. People are nutty lol

junior soprano is more of a sociopath then tony

Cristofah

Chris’ issues most likely came from not wanting to actually be in the mafia. It was all he wanted but after he became a made man his substance abuse issues got much worse. He quit everything for a period of time and “made” a movie and he was ridiculed for not drinking which ultimately lead him to abuse substance again “That’s the man I’m going to hell for. My uncle Tony”

Yes! Agreed.

We might finally find out what his arc was 😂

A wild pepe

Was he an adulterer?

wait, you dated an Italian American ? I was going to ask if he was racist or if he made disparaging remarks about other races ?

Poor guy, black men don't even like dealing with their women

@@bobdollaz3391 white people try not to be racist when they see a black person challenge (IMPOSSIBLE!)

​@@mithvibes4727Way to assume his race lmao

Remember how he attacked Janice and undermined her to her new step children.

How was Ralph bettering himself?

Like most socio and psycho paths though Tony cared deeply about certain animals. And after the pie oh my incident that's when Ralph was doomed. Maybe I can't remember properly but for some reason I don't think that Ralphs opinion of him bothered him that deeply.

@@laurafreedlund2899 one of his kids got lawn darted remember? And Ralph became more introspective of himself. But not enough to stop being scum entirely.

Ralph murdered a horse for the insurance money since his kid was in the hospital. I would Hardly call that bettering himself. He did it out of guilt because had he been watching his son in the first place instead of taking a bath in the middle of the day it wouldn’t have happened.

Yeah being in the mafia will do that to you. It’s an evil lifestyle that slowly erodes your soul.

I really thought he would spiral more. I thought maybe he might change more after being shot, but as the sayin goes "where ever I go there I am."

Could you explain that saying?

@@Delightfully_Bitchy You're the one controlling your life and you will not change unless you make the change yourself. If you burn all your bridges where you are now, unless you recognize and fix yourself wherever you go you'll do the same thing. It can be applied to people with drinking, drug or gambling problems, but it also works for someone with anger issues.

Killing Chris rammed the point home.

One of the best episodes for pointing out the hypocrisy of Tony's crew

@Char Aznable based indeed.

@Char Aznable Far from it. Your teacher lied to you.

To alot of guts

@Char Aznable based? based on what?

He really looks like the shah...and he called Johnny sack count chocula

@@tapset 😆😆😆 i don’t remember that!

Thanks for reminding me that Phil spent 20 years in the can. I had completely forgotten.

That monster was our boy during the pie oh my incident and confrontation with Ralph cifaretto though

@@JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski I was on ralphs side. "What are you a vegetarian now? You eat beef and sausage by the fuckin car load!"

Yea but that kid needed that

@@nicolebroughton721 What he needed was somebody to help him make sense of what happened and the fact that he shouldn’t feel ashamed of who his father was and the way he lost his life however due to the whole macho bullshit all they could think about was toughening this kiddo

Well said.

People didn't like T? Huh.

@@libertylivesin1776 I mean, I don't like him. He's a terrible person. lol But the complaints weren't as simple as "I think Tony's an unlikable character." The complaints were "Tony is too unlikable and it's ruining the show." The former is a pretty normal response. The latter is a suggestion that a protagonist needs to be "likable" in order to be well written.

@@jakecorenthose2901 I doubt it had to do with being too unlikeable, it more had to do with a minor sense of comic nature to his actions in the last couple of seasons. It seems to be somewhat bordering on ridiculous, but I agree, if Chase didn't fully embrace most of the darker traits, we wouldn't have had such a riveting series. At least on my second viewing it made me appreciate Phil Leotardo and Johnny Sack more

@@HydeFK I always sympathized with Johnny. Phil? Nah. For as much as Phil expresses disgust with people like Tony for not upholding the traditional values of the mob, Phil does plenty of that himself. He's just as much of a hypocrite in many ways. Also, he tried to have a woman gang raped. Indefensible.

Oooooooooh! That would be a good one!

Yes please. Clay's a good one.

"I nose the truth."

Absolutely

Yeah but is it bc u prefer SOA (bc they look or live near you idk) over the Sopranos ? Just curious

bb: slowly dying of cancer sopranos: slowly losing ur mind

Tony never even attempted to rise above evil

@@reneiscool22 he literally got worse and worse, by season 6 he is a pathetic, spiteful, spiritually bankrupt man

@@stairwaytoheaven8 in what way was he trying to be a good person? not trying to insult your opinion, i just wish you’d give a few examples. I personally think that tony soprano is such an insanely well written character because no matter how terrible of a person he is and all the chaos he causes, you cannot help but root for him.

I agree with you except I would probably describe it as Breaking Bad as a 90 mile an hour drive to hell where as the Sopranos is more like a slow soul sucking spiritual descent into hell.

They laughed at Johnny Boy when he fell down the steps when Tony was a kid. Livia was evil

Remember when Tony went around to Bobby and Janices for lunch, saw that Bobby and Janice were happy so started tearing into Janice until she snapped. Tony had the exact same sadistic grin on his face that Livia had when he fell down the stairs.

I always loved the scene. Tony runs out of the house like he's being chased by a movie slasher and it's just a little old lady. Then that laugh? Livia was pure evil.

@@RichSmithson or when tony caused the cheese incident

Do you think he kinda started freestyling there in his definition of BPD? I mean I have a copy of DSM (which he says he is quoting) right here and I don't see where it says incapable of loving or having compassion for anyone or that only their phobias exist and the real world is peripheral.

Tbh I wish you had made this video - or contributed to it.

Eh, i mean you start up saying he's not a sociopath, then say sociopaths are made and psychopaths born, and then give us the reasons why he BECAME a sociopath. Yes those terms are thrown around but the professionals discussing seem to just be sizing up the reality of his case. By the end, Melfi and only the closest people to her, who can objectively see and question the "progress" made are the ones who can make an unbiased diagnosis. That said, I firmly think Melfi was blinded not only by her professional goal but a personal one, as she felt privileged to have this exclusive source of depth into his persona. She was trying to help someone she many times stated she sympathized with. She even became close to consider dating him because of her own vulnerability (after the rape) and the qualities he had chosen to sell to her, such as his sense of humor, protective nature, and sensitivity to very specific things (such as animals). All in all, he's a textbook sociopath with some 'endearing' qualities, sometimes legit, more often constructed by Tony as a cover and self defense mechanism.

You just contradicted yourself and then explained why he became a sociopath

Fucking nerd

Was Tony B a sociopath too you? Something was clearly off about him, but he struck me more as "brain damaged" than "sociopathic". For someone who was considered such a smart guy, he made decisions too short sighted for even sociopathy to explain! WHO TRIES TO ASSASSINATE A MOB BOSS, COMPLETELY INDEPENDENTLY, WITH NO OKAY FROM ANYONE, IN BROAD DAYLIGHT, MASKLESS, IN FRONT OF A HUGE ASS CROWD OF PEOPLE, AND NOT ONLY NOT MAKE SURE SAID MOB BOSS WAS DEAD, STAYS AROUND TO MOCK SAID MOB BOSS TO HIS FACE. I'm no expert, but that doesn't sound like "158 IQ" behavior to me, and Tony B made decisions like that all the time!

What are you gonna do?

@@joannerowe7084 whuddya gonna do? Ya know?

@@joannerowe7084 I'm gonna do the best I can.

@@Delightfully_Bitchy i feel like intelligence doesn't always mean wisdom. Tony B was too impulsive despite being able to outsmart most characters that went up against him. Tony S specifically acknowledged Tony B as, paraphrasing, someone who if he could just listen and keep it together, could really be used by Tony in the business. To answer your question, Tony B is a sociopath because he actively chose to resort to crime in order to resolve issues. Same as Tony S and all the fellows, all of them meeting an end because of the conscious decision to engage in crime

Well, he tried to kill Chrissy so it’s not like it wasn’t out of order for tony to want to kinda relish in killing him, would Tony have kidnapped Bevilaqua for nothing and tortured then killed him for no reason like some sick twisted serial killers do?

Johnny Boy used to threaten young Tony that if he misbehaved, Uncle Paulie would come get him (the ultimate boogey man).

How about Paulie's response, which I always loved... _"He thought enough of ya to give ya the Willie Overall thing, didn't he?!?"_ Ergo, he loved you so much, Ton', he gave you a hit to do! 😆

It's almost like he's desperately trying to convince himself of his father's good nature, more than anyone else.

@@Jimmy1982Playlists that’s love if I’ve ever heard of it! (Of course for them, that’s actually true…)

Johnny Boy was a far worse parent than Livia

As someone who has always had slight sociopathic tendencies, I always saw Tony as the worst and best of humanity.

😬

@@Delightfully_Bitchy if that was towards me, it's not like I'm full blown sociopath, I just have tendencies (it's clear to people who interact with me I don't care what they think about me, I have a tendency to ignore people with clearly lower i.q.s opinions on things, I can get a pretty hot head. I get enjoyment out of toying with people's emotions) But I also know this about myself so I make clear steps to not allowing myself to go to far. I don't lie when asked questions, my moral code doesn't allow me to cheat in relationships because of seen what it can do to someone. I don't steal either.

@@Irishhound edge

Tony had amazing superficial charm. Towards the end of the show when it’s all coming un done and the charm wears off you see the mask completely off and witness who tony soprano truly always was underneath. Tony is like a Frankenstein. An invention/product of his environment. Brought into this life by cunning charming manipulative sociopathic narcissistic gangsters. Raised by them. Mentored. Led. Conned himself by the surrogate fathers or his life. Misery prison and death.

Oh he totally bought it at the end.

@Raylan Givens anyone has the potential to improve but if they don't act on it some persons passive belief means nothing

@Raylan Givens yes, anyone can change, but tony actively stopped himself from becoming a better person throughout the series

@Raylan Givens “…provided they have the right motivation.” Thing is, after killing Christopher in “Kennedy and Heidi”, Tony basically gives up on any potential that he may become a good person, especially since his death was massively outweighed by the monetary gain he acquired later in the episode.

I agree on all counts. Men like Tony don't have happy endings, and the unhappiest of all is if he'd lived a full life. The only real tragedy is that his innocent family had to suffer one final trauma by having to witness his death.

I think Tony somewhat acknowledges this in the episode as a possibility, it's subtle but I think that's why he gets so angry because he sees ADHD as a negative (which it isn't) and also sees the traits they are listing as being similar to some of his own traits. Still it's a shame it never came up again.

ADHD typically can develop into ASPD

@@Shark_King325 Indirectly, yeah. ADHD can lead to societal isolation and stuff, which can lead to conduct disorder which can lead to ASPD

@@judeconnor-macintyre9874it is because people that have it never stop talking about it which is annoying as hell

​@@jonmann4980what an idiotic thing to say

He doesn’t even say sorry lol

@@yesindeed5608 he very much just shrugged and said get fucked

He did warn him many times in advance though. He made his choices and knew what he was getting into. A man must live with his choices.

@@jonesdan85 You're not wrong.

@@jonesdan85 that warning was a small piece of Tony trying to be as good a person as he could. He does this a few times through the series, like when he tried to really help Artie with his investment. But Artie misread his intentions as the worst, and that made Tony revert.

i didnt expect that to be something thats even touched upon yet alone given a scene too

Did you see when he confronts that paparazzi bothering his family He could be terrifying

@@mattslater2603 He was literally Tony Soprano in that moment, I remember that video. So he could channel his character. He must have been a blast to party with when he was still alive. I heard he did a lot of Cocaine though.

@@stickeyyyy Who didn't though

@@stickeyyyy i heard he was really insecure about his performance and that he never does well enough, a bit of tony must've been molded off of him because neither give themselves enough credit

@@clawzx1195 the writers apparently took a lot of inspiration from the actor's personal life so probably

It's the longest under this sub-species, very allegorical.

Longer than the many of shineboxes now forgotten.

@@johndcoffee632 the sacred and the propane

@@johndcoffee632 it doesn't however explain the alteration between Dickie and Uncle Jun, and the impact on their respective bottom lines...

i’d love a redone version of anton chigurh. there’s definitely more to cover there than 8 minutes with that freak.

Been there too my man. And yes, having someone just invades your personal space and get right up in your face definitely throws one off.

Tbh i honestly thought that Tony's level of anger was relatively normal to me as in It's not uncommon to see that in people

@The Ace of Spades Well tbf i have seen people who have anger issues Note: I'm not saying i have it but have seen people who have anger issues that high

@@simonpetrikov3992 You re right it isn't that uncommon, even in women.

It really is. My dad would hold me up by the shoulders and his eyes would bug out in rage. I can't take it, man...I just can't. I still shy away from anyone who stares at me in anger or even mild annoyance.