Analyzing LEA MICHELE's "Don't Rain On My Parade"

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Жыл бұрын

Beanie Feldstein has allegedly been fired from the Broadway Revival of FUNNY GIRL and replaced with Lea Michele. Is Lea Michele really that much better?
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@lily__e
@lily__e Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see how she sounds in this production. On Glee, she was playing a teenage character singing DROMP. Everyone's worried she's going to do a bad Barbra impression, but she's now 10+ years older and a more mature artist being directed by someone else. I feel like she will bring a lot more nuance to this role than people are giving her credit for.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
before Glee, LM was a celebrated Broadway performer in her own right (Spring Awakening, 2006 OBC). she'll be fine.
@donchey51
@donchey51 Жыл бұрын
Lea has NO COMIC TIMING
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
@@donchey51 ...wut? lol
@thedevilwearswalmart35
@thedevilwearswalmart35 Жыл бұрын
@@donchey51 I don’t necessarily think that’s true. She could be super funny on glee
@KT-sq2ml
@KT-sq2ml Жыл бұрын
Hope you’re correct! Guess we’ll see. 😊
@cherylkavanagh3387
@cherylkavanagh3387 Жыл бұрын
I love Beanie Feldstein, but she was totally miscast in this role (in my opinion). When Barbra Streisand was cast in the role of Fanny Brice, the songs were basically written to take advantage of her incredible voice. The Funny Girl story is pretty weak, so it really is all about the songs/voice. That may not be fair, but it is what it is. Again, just my opinion. I wish Lea Michele success as she steps into the role of Fanny Brice and I also wish Beanie much success in her future endeavors.
@imax773
@imax773 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY TY!
@larrybrunson6311
@larrybrunson6311 Жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that Lea Michele has been a Broadway star since she was a child.
@jayhartbarger2793
@jayhartbarger2793 Жыл бұрын
And Shirley Temple was a child star but what happened later?
@larrybrunson6311
@larrybrunson6311 Жыл бұрын
@@jayhartbarger2793 my point was that this was not new for Lea Michelle. You missed my point, it would seem. Besides, no one could dance like Shirley could as a six year old and then she grew into a lovely but not very charismatic teenager.
@punkwrestle
@punkwrestle Жыл бұрын
@@jayhartbarger2793 She became a US Ambassador.
@paulybarr
@paulybarr Жыл бұрын
@@jayhartbarger2793 Later, she walked away.
@gabygaby5701
@gabygaby5701 Жыл бұрын
Shirley was talented and had massive charisma, unlike like Lea.
@carabingham3207
@carabingham3207 Жыл бұрын
I am learning to sing, and I heard the gasped “ha” before singing is a cheat to activate the diaphragm, it’s supposed to be a beginners trick and when you get more experienced you’re meant to drop it but most people don’t break the habit.
@Larry-pl5bp
@Larry-pl5bp Жыл бұрын
You should have used Lea's performance at the Tony Awards live instead of the engineered sound from the Glee recording. Probably the vocal coaching she will be getting during the summer before her Broadway premiere will correct the particulars you brought up. It will be interesting to see how the peformance changes then. Good analysis of she & Beanie's performance differences.
@Fidgetym42
@Fidgetym42 Жыл бұрын
While I would never presume to start a comment with the phrase “you should”, I do agree with Larry. I don’t think it’s fair to judge Lea Michelle playing Rachel Berry singing this song. Her version at the Tony Awards was different and is a better indicator of what we might see in September. That being said, I’ve worked in film and television for over 25 years, and I knew the stories about Lea’s unfortunate behavior choices well before they came to light in recent years. Let’s hope she’s learned some lessons, and exhibits more of the grace and kindness she has exhibited on occasion. This was an excellent review! Thank you!
@gg79139
@gg79139 Жыл бұрын
I recall that performance and wasn’t impressed. Maybe because she was moving up and down the aisle, but I didn’t care for it
@SakuraMoonflower
@SakuraMoonflower Жыл бұрын
Aye, but only if she's open to receiving the training. 🌝 If she's got the same snotty attitude towards people she deems to be "less" than her, like vocal coaches, I feel sorry for every idiot who bought a ticket to see her show, but got seats way at the back: they will never hear her. XD
@kassiogomes8498
@kassiogomes8498 Жыл бұрын
@@Fidgetym42 well he really should. It isn't a lie.
@mikeomalley2460
@mikeomalley2460 Жыл бұрын
8:40 so the thing I’m hearing with Beanie is that her placement is nasal, which is actually not good technique. Singing nasally and singing with forward placement are often confused, the difference being one is poor technique that stifles the sound and creates that nasal tone, while the other is strong technique that sounds clear and amplifies the sound. Jessica Vosk is a great example of someone with that perfect forward placement that just rings out for eons
@goatpie882
@goatpie882 Жыл бұрын
Jesica vosk is like actually perfect
@bitchenboutique6953
@bitchenboutique6953 Жыл бұрын
I honestly haven’t heard any of Beanie’s performances in this show but when she was cast I wanted to believe that they weren’t casting her to play Barbra Streisand but to play Fanny Brice. I’ve felt my whole life like nobody knew who Fanny Brice even was because they assumed she was a Barbra clone. I wanted Beanie to NOT be Barbra and I wanted the world to be happy about it. But now the world is going to get what it apparently wants… a Barbra Streisand tribute show. And even if Lea is the greatest Barbra tribute the world has, that’s not the same as taking a role and making it your own, which I believe Beanie did.
@Heyjay454
@Heyjay454 Жыл бұрын
That is what Julie Benko has done she is true to Fanny while also being true to herself and that's what the show really needs.
@tinkbella450
@tinkbella450 Жыл бұрын
I think this is extremely valid. However, I unfortunately don’t think that Funny Girl would be the vessel for this kind of performance/focus on who Fanny truly ultimately was due to the vocal requirements of the score. Perhaps there will be a time in the future for that story to be told, but I just don’t think Funny Girl is that story, even if it should have been.
@deborahtucker4011
@deborahtucker4011 Жыл бұрын
The issue is the underwhelming reviews, lack of award noms and poor ticket sales. That is what the backers/director/producers used when they decided to recast Fanny. It's not unusual for stars to cycle in and out of roles, it never really had to come out why exactly Beanie left if she hadn't made sure it was known.
@kassiogomes8498
@kassiogomes8498 Жыл бұрын
Beanie didn't. She couldn't.
@deborahtucker4011
@deborahtucker4011 Жыл бұрын
The book of the show is the weakest part of Funny Girl. No actress regardless of talent could truly play Fanny Brice truthfully. The spngs are beauriful. The plot is lightly done and full of at best half truths. Nicky Arnstein was Fanny's 2nd husband. Nicky was a con man his whole life. She had 2 chikdren with him. A son and a daughter. The son requested to be left out because he was a professor and feared it would hurt his reputation. Franny's mother was a highly successful real estate agent in New York. Franny lived in a very pricy area due to her mother's sucess....those are only a few things different from the show btw.
@AdaVox
@AdaVox Жыл бұрын
I’m really surprised you didn’t use a live performance of Lea Michele’s “Don’t Rain on My Parade” to give a more accurate assessment. However, I worked with Lea michele, very briefly, for a performance on American idol. When I worked with her, she was wonderful and was an absolute pleasure to work with. No signs of any worrisome “Rachel Barry” attitude and I was very pleasantly surprised. I really hope that this means she truly has come a long way from wherever she may have been many years before.
@barch6232
@barch6232 Жыл бұрын
Omg Ada I was just thinking about how so supportive she seemed to be toward you when you guys performed together! I have faith!
@AdaVox
@AdaVox Жыл бұрын
@@barch6232 she really was incredibly kind. Even when the cameras were off and we weren’t on set.
@rydbthatsme
@rydbthatsme Жыл бұрын
Oh hey queen workin on doing less runs and fine tuning those tones? Love ya😘
@mshalo1822
@mshalo1822 Жыл бұрын
Ada, you are a class act. That was one of my favorite AI performances, and Lea (rightfully) held back to let your vocals shine. I wish more people would read this comment, and realize that people can grow and change. Hopefully, Lea has.
@cupcakeLacrosse
@cupcakeLacrosse Жыл бұрын
I also wish he used a live version, because with Glee versions of any musical theatre, I have to ask about how much pitch correction there is, because there is some very obvious songs that have pitch correction.
@shmalfie8674
@shmalfie8674 Жыл бұрын
I think Michele has since toned down on the vocal cries. Also, the songs were written for Barbara Streisand, so although different interpretations are welcome it appears that if you deviate from the Streisand belts of the songs, you deviate from what the songs are meant to be. There will always be backlash if you choose to interpret the song another way without the necessary artistic justification that can be found in the rest of the production. I don't know what beanie did, but it also appears like the character of Fanny Bryce has to be a belter, because of how much passion she has for becoming a star.
@stewie3126
@stewie3126 Жыл бұрын
I read that Jules Styne didn't want Ray Stark's top contender Anne Bancroft to get the part of Brice, so he wrote songs that only Streisand, who was also being considered, could sing.
@echen8068
@echen8068 Жыл бұрын
Just saw Beanie's last performance earlier today. She had some lovely moments at the end that were well acted and very emotional, but clearly was never up to the singing demands of this role. In addition to power, range is a huge issue for her - Beanie can't belt nearly as high up the scale as Lea, let alone Barbra. As a result, she sang some songs fully in head voice (e.g. People) and chose lower notes in some instances for songs that she fully belted. I was also taken aback that Ramin in some instances was singing the melody while Beanie was singing lower harmony parts, which seemed due to her not having the notes. The level of artistry in singing you see with so many Broadway actors - choosing different colors, ornamentations, etc. in the voice - also just wasn't there. This is by no means Beanie's fault - she doesn't have the years of training and experience other headliners have as she's spent most of her career acting only. I do think she never should have been cast in this role and it was really unfair to her. I felt the same thing after hearing Katrina Lenk - a far better singer - in Company, a role that was just too high for her.
@goatpie882
@goatpie882 Жыл бұрын
Katrina Lenk wasn’t good in Company?
@nanettecostanza537
@nanettecostanza537 Жыл бұрын
I agree and to me..Beanie seems to come off so young..very sweet though and I wish her the best...
@imax773
@imax773 Жыл бұрын
They should have NOT set her up to fails mentioned ,to sing songs written for Ms S- ! Then again, i think my ego would go against my intuition that this isn't going to work it was for Beanie also a life long dream to do "Funny Girl" At all cost-and unfortunatrley it was costly SUCH HATE in our world,WHY shame anyone, but especially Beanie- SHAME ON HATERS!
@OmniphonProductions
@OmniphonProductions Жыл бұрын
2:14 - THANK YOU!!! I'm not ashamed to admit I was a Glee fan, particularly Lea Michele, right up to the end. _However,_ I also must say that I grew to _hate_ that sound! That crying squeak is a valuable tool for expressing sadness, anger, etc. Unfortunately, in this case, it became so ubiquitous in her performances that I genuinely began to wonder, "Can she start a phrase _without_ that sound, or does she actually _lack_ the ability _not_ to (metaphorically) crack the door a bit before opening it all the way." Another technical issue with _this_ performance is that she occasionally breathes in the middle of phrases...and even the final word, "Pa," (breath), "rade!" (But now I'm nit picking.) As for Beanie Feldstein, it's not that her voice is _objectively bad;_ it's that it's _comparatively smaller_ that the voice we've been conditioned to expect...if not demand. With regard to Lea Michile's "divazilla" attitude and treatment of her Glee cast mates, I'm with you. I don't want to live in a world where we continue to punish people for (non-criminal) things they did _years_ ago...IF they have, in fact, changed. Along that line, when was the last time we heard a story about Lea's _recent_ bad behavior. It's been awhile. Yeah?
@magpie405
@magpie405 Жыл бұрын
i can't help but getting goosebumps on my arms when i hear lea michelle's final notes singing this song
@danielrisher9312
@danielrisher9312 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of Beanie, but to be fair, it's not just her lack of power or belting that is underwhelming people. She doesn't have the best tone and tone can make up for a lot of other attributes. I believe people would be disappointed with her vocals regardless of the Barbara comparison. Also, this is more of a Rachel Berry analysis than a Lea Michele one in my opinion. On Glee I'm sure she was told exactly how to sing it. I think Lea will be fantastic on Broadway. Many actors in Hollywood do far worse things than be difficult on set as a young adult without so much as a blink, so I don't think her real-life personality has anything to do with if she'll be right for the role. Beanie has a history with her voice for sure, but she's the leading lady on Broadway- the bar should be very high. Great analysis video!
@MusicTheatreTheory
@MusicTheatreTheory Жыл бұрын
Definitely a fair analysis! Thanks Daniel!
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
"I think Lea will be fantastic on Broadway" ...you should check out Spring Awakening (2006, OBC) 😉 she was excellent.
@TiannNChong
@TiannNChong Жыл бұрын
@@apatouros7572 There's a bootleg recording of her and J Groff's final performances in Spring Awakening, her first verse in Those You've Known always wows me when I rewatch it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abhintmIz7uuYas.html
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
@@TiannNChong oh my god... Those You've Known 😭😭😭😭 I'll be a blubbering.mess!!! that's for the link, friend!
@erinmchugh7168
@erinmchugh7168 Жыл бұрын
Didn't she sing DROMP at the Tonys one year?
@markbeck8384
@markbeck8384 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'm curious about how the comedy bits and the more intimate songs sound. Lea Michele can belt the big power numbers, I'm sure; but I wonder if she can be funny or particularly charming as a character? The quality she tends to project feels more like angst and wanting to prove herself, rather than being a little off-beat, vulnerable, and endearing.
@bluedancelilly
@bluedancelilly Жыл бұрын
If you've watched her on Glee or in the Funny Girl scenes she did on Glee, you'd see she absolutely has the ability to play the role.
@jesslane56430
@jesslane56430 Жыл бұрын
Watch her sing My Man or Where are You Now. They are beautiful. Her singing The greatest Star was good too
@deborahtucker4011
@deborahtucker4011 Жыл бұрын
She was amazing in Spring Awakening and as Cossette in Le Miz. Both of those require nuanced stage acting. Comedy in harder than drama but I think her acting will be the actual suprise from the show. We know she is a singer. She gets to show her comedic acting chops.
@adrichina72
@adrichina72 Жыл бұрын
Lea has A LOT of live performances of this song you could check one of those instead. Good video btw
@matthewhines9787
@matthewhines9787 Жыл бұрын
I personally would love to see Beanie originate the role of Mama Cass in a new jukebox musical based on her life and music.
@57andstillkicking
@57andstillkicking Жыл бұрын
Her voice isn’t good enough for that.
@saaaaltydaaalty310
@saaaaltydaaalty310 Жыл бұрын
She doesn't sound like Mama Cass tho
@matthewhines9787
@matthewhines9787 Жыл бұрын
@@saaaaltydaaalty310 I don't particularly think she has a settled tone or personal style of voice yet. I believe she is rather good at taking on styles and tones. I think with a little practice and immersion research, she could do well.
@MsLamotta
@MsLamotta Жыл бұрын
Beanie needs to be cast in HAIRSPRAY!!!
@peggydwyer8187
@peggydwyer8187 Жыл бұрын
Beanie is completely the wrong fach for this. Cass was a contralto. Beanie is a soprano, and therein lies the problem. Lea is a mezzo belter...
@goodyougetastar
@goodyougetastar Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your simple yet lovely analysis, and for your commentary on this whole situation. Absolutely love your infectious energy and can't wait to see more videos! :D
@johnkling6657
@johnkling6657 Жыл бұрын
THE CRY SOUND! Thank you!!!!! Whenever I spoke about her in my music classes (7-12 all girls), I always mention the "hitch" or "Hiccup" when she phonates. They all loved her, and I will admit that she is talented, but the cry sound drives me nuts. ANd I'm now going to compare her to Babs. Yes, Jule Styne was writing the FG score for her. There are layers and just a depth to Babs' voice that Lea does not have. Lea was a wonderful Cosette, but I'll wait to see what the word of mouth is when she takes over the role of Fanny Brice.
@Ben-yj8ye
@Ben-yj8ye Жыл бұрын
Thank God it’s just not me. I don’t know why people say Lea is a great singer. She does that cry sound excessively.
@bck0804
@bck0804 Жыл бұрын
It’s called a “catch”, isn’t it?
@katiewest7908
@katiewest7908 Жыл бұрын
I'm so old I remember how how our vocal coaches had us rounding all our notes, singing through the facial mask, and stopping any vibrato. I'm not really fond of modern warbling, sounds so overdone.
@toniharris2143
@toniharris2143 Жыл бұрын
She is already a broadway star. She was the lead in Spring Awaking.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
THIS!!! and in 2006, before Glee. does no one remember Spring Awakening?? that shit was SOOOO good when I was in high school... are we just getting old now?! 😭
@camara1194
@camara1194 Жыл бұрын
@@apatouros7572 LOVE LOVE LOVE
@rydbthatsme
@rydbthatsme Жыл бұрын
He literally lacks a ridiculous amount of credibility🤣💀🗣
@lilybee809
@lilybee809 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that your analysis is understandable to people who are not music experts. Even more, I appreciate your balanced and kind perspective on the performers. We need more people like you speaking up and less people just waiting for the slightest chance to tear others apart.
@camilac6808
@camilac6808 Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail made it look like this would be a harsh analysis but you're actually really sweet, I loved this
@melonieallyn-schwerin3511
@melonieallyn-schwerin3511 Жыл бұрын
With your discussion of Beanie's vocal choices, I wonder if at any point the director or producers told her to "make the role her own". I can think of several productions or revivals where the actor was encouraged to take risks with character development because they wanted to make the show unique, even if it had a history or classic role. It would be unfortunate if Beanie was told to make the role her own and put her spin on the character, and then she gets slammed by the critics and canned by the producers for doing exactly what she was told to do. Is the role so iconic that no one can perform it unless they're channeling Barbra? I feel like Beanie got the shaft no matter what, but I also wonder if she wasn't set up for failure based on expectations around the show that had nothing to do with her.
@Jules46219
@Jules46219 Жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!!
@d.a.carballo8400
@d.a.carballo8400 Жыл бұрын
You are amazing and so right about both performers. Unfortunately, Beanie Feldstein was miscast. I saw her in Hello Dolly and she was lovely. She brought that supporting role to life and made it unforgettable. In my opinion, she’s a great character actress who takes a supporting role and makes it shine. Lea Michele (and thank you for giving her a chance) will be an amazing Fanny Brice. Let’s hope she has matured and learned some important lessons in life. Thank you. Your music theatre theory is outstanding.
@ghoularty2030
@ghoularty2030 Жыл бұрын
I think Beanie did a great Fanny Brice. Lea will probablg do a great Barbara. It’s all down to what you prefer.
@kassiogomes8498
@kassiogomes8498 Жыл бұрын
@@ghoularty2030 and Barbra is the greatest Fanny Brice so Lea will be an amazing Fanny Brice.
@l.n.3372
@l.n.3372 Жыл бұрын
Admittedly, how was her singing in Hello, Dolly? I'm assuming she could handle those songs, since the character she played wasn't the main female role, or even the secondary female role.
@jrthiker9908
@jrthiker9908 Жыл бұрын
Great vocal analysis of the two singers. And thanks for mentioning how over-produced the Glee vocal soundtracks were. When Michele sang it at the Tony's she did struggle a bit and pushed in the bigger moments, but it could have been nerves. Either way, she's a skilled singer, and like Streisand has a smaller evenly produced instrument which the microphone loves so it doesn't distort as quickly in the louder moments. Mic'ing and recording the truly larger voices in MT and opera is very difficult from the production end, even with newer technology and software. Loved your mention of the 1950's brighter/brassier vowel sound in MT, a lot of that was to get the voice to project in the theaters pre-1965 mic age. We're now many generations into singing with mic's, and it's allowed folk to use more natural spoken vowel shapes as well as varied and expressive register blends that would never have projected in the old days.
@almostfreak07
@almostfreak07 Жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel. The way you explained very specific technical details speaks of your teaching skills. Great communication style combined with a super solid music background. Bravo!!! 👏👏👏👏
@MacDinoland
@MacDinoland Жыл бұрын
Let me start out by saying I'm not a big fan of Lea's. She has that whiny Disney Princess sound that I've always found annoying. And yes, that "cry" before almost every phrase is definitely over the top. Just like you mentioned, it can work in certain moments, but by using it all the time it loses its strength. Now without going further, I had to remember this was quite a while ago, and might not even be worth spending too much more time on. There's been a lot of years and a lot of growing up and vocal maturity since this performance on Glee. I Googled it to find out what year she did this song. It was 2009. So that's 13 years ago. She was 22 then and she's 35 now. A lot can change! I'm curious what she'll sound like today and more than likely with different direction. But to answer your question... "Is Lea Michele really that much better?" Vocally, a big yes! Whether I like her style of singing or not, she is a singer. Beanie is not a singer. Sure, she can carry a tune. But this is Broadway! Her singing voice doesn't sound much better than some of the high school kids I've directed in their musicals. Anyway, I do like Beanie. She has a very charming personality and is a very good comedic actress. But she did not have the instrument to carry a whole B'way show on her shoulders. Without an amazing Fanny Brice, the show runs out of steam real quick! That's the main reason nobody's taken a chance on bringing it back to B'way since the '60s. It needs a phenomenal actress with a phenomenal voice! There were so many known actresses that were offered the role way before they got Streisand. And they all turned it down because they couldn't handle the score. You see, Jule Styne, the composer, was told by some friends of his that he has got to check out this girl they just saw performing downtown in a little night club. She was just so good and so original. And so, he went. By this point he was willing to listen to anybody. And he was not disappointed! He fell in love that very night with the girl who had already dropped the middle "A" from her first name. But when he brought back this fantastic news that he's found their lead, the rest of them weren't as thrilled with the idea. They didn't want to take a chance with a virtually unknown singer, even though she had already done her first B'way musical in I Can Get It For You Wholesale. But even though she got rave reviews, it was a supporting role. And she was young, only 19 when Wholesale opened! And she would only be 21 at the time FG would open. Too much of a chance for a leading role on B'way, and a leading role who would be virtually on stage the entire show! So, what I'm getting at is that Jule Styne wanted Barbra. And he knew she had a very big vocal range. So, when finishing the score, he allegedly opened up the range on all the songs! The ranges for all Fanny's songs ended up being so wide and difficult to sing, well, like I said, everybody else turned it down, and he got his Barbra! Lol! So, my point is I haven't the foggiest idea how they thought Beanie was going to handle such a score. And in the end, she couldn't do it justice. Oh, and just to give you some background on myself so you would know I come from some professional experience. I'm a voice teacher/vocal coach here in NYC with a masters in piano and vocal performance. And I've had some students make it to B'way, Off B'way, tours and recordings. Sorry if that sounded a bit braggy. And also sorry for the lengthy post! It's hard to stop when talking about the field I'm in and love! Your passion shows as well. Good luck with your shows and future endeavors!
@MikroSporaki
@MikroSporaki Жыл бұрын
Just came across to this video. You got me. Yes to all the comments and to your perfectly accurate technical breakdown. Can't wait to watch more! Love from a fellow artist in Greece xxx
@seattlesusieq6945
@seattlesusieq6945 Жыл бұрын
I chose to go see Funny Girl in previews because I adore Ramin Karimloo. When I saw the FG trailer that you are using here, I thought 'oh dear'. When I went to the theatre, I desperately wanted to like Beanie. While she was much better than you see in the trailer, she just didn't have the voice required for most of the songs. I've heard others sing these songs well, so it isn't just a comparison to Barbra. (In fact, in the second act, there is a short reprise of "People" where Ramin sings one line AMAZINGLY, only emphasizing how mediocre Beanie's voice is. Also, I didn't know about Beanie's voice problems when she was younger. All the more reason not to cast her in the first place.
@itsbritneybisch8552
@itsbritneybisch8552 Жыл бұрын
I love this video. I have no idea about vocal techniques, etc. but the way you explained things, I understood the basics. Will definitely watch your other vids and subbed!
@josephball2623
@josephball2623 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! I wish it was a reaction to a live performance though, like on tour or the tony awards
@h.c.8731
@h.c.8731 Жыл бұрын
You’ve got to remember Lea Michelle is acting here. When you watch her perform this outside of glee specific events there is a lot less of the beginning of the note ‘cry’. This Performance is being given by Rachel Berry, not Lea Michelle. To assume Lea would make these same choices is wrong.
@MusicTheatreTheory
@MusicTheatreTheory Жыл бұрын
I don’t know… even when she sings outside of Glee (her live performance at the Tony Awards, for example) she uses a lot of “cry” sound. For this reason I’m inclined to think it’s a Lea Michele signature sound, and not just an affectation she puts on for Rachel, you know?
@adoragrayskull
@adoragrayskull Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheatreTheory it is a Lea signature sound, sure, but she doesn't overdo it as much in her own performances. Rachel Berry uses it, abuses it, overuses it... lea chooses her use of cries much better. Check out her performance of DROMP from around 3/4 years ago and her tour with Darren Criss.
@Marcel_Audubon
@Marcel_Audubon Жыл бұрын
Nice try. Not buying that her sloppy singing habits are her fully inhabiting a character since she sings the same way in all contexts.
@Ben-yj8ye
@Ben-yj8ye Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheatreTheory true, this “cry” is Lea’s signature singing inflection. That’s why I’m not a big fan. It gets tiring
@AtaTheKin
@AtaTheKin Жыл бұрын
shit I can't unheard the little cry at the begining of every verse she sings now, this has forever changed me, I love the review
@mr4523mr
@mr4523mr Жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’ve ever commented on a KZfaq video, but your analysis and explanation were so fascinating, insightful and well-presented that I just had to say, “Great frigging job!”
@frankgroff2604
@frankgroff2604 Жыл бұрын
your analysis is so amazing and your kindness is infectious
@laurenmcwhinnie2777
@laurenmcwhinnie2777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing out that people should be allowed to grow and learn from their past 👏👏👏
@lyndonjames8607
@lyndonjames8607 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the info about Beanie’s early vocal damage and technique rebuilding. It’s not something I’ve not heard anyone else bring up in the midst of reporting/analyzing this and goes a long way towards explaining why she would be both vocally cautious and selective of a perhaps narrower range of choices in order to protect the voice. Sharing this, alone, convinced me to subscribe to your channel as “a voice” really worth listening to. I’m sorry we couldn’t have heard more of Beanie in the role online, particularly as I’m not sure whether the OBC recording has been, or will be, released under these circumstances, I’m intrigued by the few clips you played to hear whether, more objectively, her sound and approach really could serve the music (separate from the Barbra expectations) after all. That said, your analysis certainly leads me to believe that vocally the score shakes out as “Lea Michelle, 2: Beanie Feldstein, 1”. But based on “ ... belt the ever-loving POOP out of it” - YOU win! ;) :D
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
it's a reach.
@nanettecostanza537
@nanettecostanza537 Жыл бұрын
..I truly enjoyed this video analysis... Thank you. Very interesting. 🎶
@dalila994
@dalila994 Жыл бұрын
Love your analysis. The explanations and examples were 🤩
@petawaincorporated3803
@petawaincorporated3803 Жыл бұрын
By the way, New subscriber here from Perth , Western Australia, and your analysis of the song MADE ME DO It! Thank you!
@DanielleAlexandriaAlchemy
@DanielleAlexandriaAlchemy Жыл бұрын
Love the theory and the perspective of allowing people to grow. Thank you for being honest yet kind to all parties 🙏💫🎵.
@jim55434
@jim55434 Жыл бұрын
Liked. Shared. Commenting right now and Subscribed. Great content!
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, Fanny Brice was a real woman with a distinctive voice of her own. Streisand had a distinct and rich voice of her own, but she managed to capture some of Brice's charm and style. It probably helped that Garson Kanin and several others directly involved in the production knew Fanny Brice and were able to guide Streisand into picking up her qualities without devolving into a parody of Fanny Brice. Michele leans so heavily into Streisand's interpretation as Rachel Berry, that I have no idea how she'll do as Fanny.
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567
@fabrisseterbrugghe8567 Жыл бұрын
Also, I'd love to hear a comparison with the late Naya Rivera's performance of the song on Glee.
@Jules46219
@Jules46219 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯
@brahamshdr
@brahamshdr Жыл бұрын
I liked the analysis, new subscriber. And looking forward to see Lea on broadway. Recently see her live on her tour and was terrific.
@allisonvandenberg3032
@allisonvandenberg3032 9 ай бұрын
I learned so much from this - thank you! I loved Glee (at first), but I never understood why everyone loved this rendition of "Don't Rain On My Parade" so much. It seemed so loud to me, and now I understand that's the result of overproduction. I love when songs really build up to that true climax - it's exciting! But this entire song sounds like it's one volume. LOUD. Thank you so much for explaining this! And the cries...also didn't know that was a thing. I grew up singing in the 80s and 90s, and that wasn't something we were taught to do (that I can remember...). It always drove me bonkers to hear it, especially so SO often. This is over a year old at this point, but I'm thankful KZfaq suggested this video!
@shYShy10128
@shYShy10128 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for analyzing this song and the difference of artists execution. I am preparing for my performance exam and this song is one of the songs to perform. I'm glad I found your channel. This helps me a lot. THANK YOU. XOXO
@TheHitchkick
@TheHitchkick Жыл бұрын
It was really interesting to watch and listen to you doing this. The passion and know-how is really uplifting and somewhat sexy. Now I need to find more vids and even perhaps something where I get to hear your voice. Loved it and am so subscribing
@cheryllee81
@cheryllee81 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the way you did the switch screen analysis of Don't Rain on My Parade with Beanie vs. Lea. I know virtually nothing about music theatre theory, but I know what I like, and I really like, no love, Barbra Streisand. When Funny Girl was revived on Broadway I wanted to see it, but I didn't know much about Beanie. I pulled up a trailer of her singing Don't Rain on My Parade and, while I know and accept there's only one Barbra, I was underwhelmed. Not only that, I think I would have been disappointed had I gone to Broadway. Perhaps Lea is a b---h, no comment, but I really don't care, she's not a friend, family, or co-worker. When I spend my time and hard-earned money for a show, I want to have my socks knocked off. Now that I've watched your analysis, I think I will go see Funny Girl with Lea Michele. Thanks for sharing, and, btw, your teaching voice has a pretty wide range too.
@jareddavidhirsh4948
@jareddavidhirsh4948 Жыл бұрын
When Streisand sings “ here I am” she doesn’t sound like past Broadway singers that came before like the merms or Carol Channing. Streisand is an original, she has no need to copy others or imitate others.
@audramcdonaldapologist3676
@audramcdonaldapologist3676 Жыл бұрын
That’s not his point yes Barbra is an original but her voice also sounds very of the time just like Broadway singers of that era
@jareddavidhirsh4948
@jareddavidhirsh4948 Жыл бұрын
@@audramcdonaldapologist3676 you are incorrect! Barbra was actually miked during the Broadway and west end run so she didn’t have to sound like the merms or that god awful Carol Channing. With being miked she didn’t need to be larger than life, she didn’t have to belt out to the nosebleed seats. I would say she is the first of the modern Broadway actors/singers. If you don’t believe me get the Time magazine issue dated April 12th,1964. BTW, she was the 2nd youngest actress at the time ever featured on the cover at 21.
@renaemirror7662
@renaemirror7662 Жыл бұрын
I agree, Barbra Streisand is absolutely nothing like Ethel Merman or Carol Channing. If someone puts her in that category I think they really don’t get her.
@jareddavidhirsh4948
@jareddavidhirsh4948 Жыл бұрын
@@renaemirror7662 Exactly! There was never a time that the Merms or Carol Channing weren’t larger than life, that’s why they could never make the transition from Broadway to film. People couldn’t take them for more then a few minutes on the screen here and there. A great example is the Merms in “it’s a mad, mad, world”. But that’s a totally different tangent all together. The Streisand voice is of a totally different timbre and vocal resources in my opinion. That sound she has was completely her’s and her’s alone, all that followed on Broadway and for the past 60 years are trying variations of her sound. Listen to Lupone, Peters, Menzel, and other Broadway divas after Streisand….
@michaelcuschieri4845
@michaelcuschieri4845 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a Barbra analysis next (any song honestly). This is fantastic!
@cradio52
@cradio52 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU for mentioning the rampant use of pitch correction, compressors and limiters in Glee’s music. It always, always drove me crazy and all the songs just felt neutered and lifeless to me as a result. It was more maddening than Lea Michelle’s cry 😂 It’s not just Glee, of course - it’s a major issue with practically all big, glossy Hollywood production these days. The live-action Beauty and the Beast movie’s soundtrack was just completely unlistenable to me due to everyone (but mainly Emma Watson) sounding like a computer, rather than a human. You should do a video on this topic if you can think of enough to talk about and enough examples to compare/contrast!
@curiouslystrongsinging
@curiouslystrongsinging Жыл бұрын
Great job. I wrote a blogpost about this myself last year comparing her to Streisand - and I think it's a phrase by phrase, note by note imitation. Her voice is great, and I hope that she'll make the role her own. It is ten years later, so maybe.... ? Note that the way she sings the finale "parade," she closes to the R for a full beat before she opens to the vowel. Thing I once heard about diphthongs, and it didn't pertain specifically to singing, but I like using it anyway: "When two vowels go walking, the first one does the talking."
@snoopenny
@snoopenny Жыл бұрын
The famous older Broadway performers performed with no mikes. I saw Ethel Merman in Hello Dolly and the show was miked, but Merman sang two songs in the runway with the mikes off, and she was magnificent.
@WhenUrSmilin
@WhenUrSmilin Жыл бұрын
Both actresses have a little-girl quality to their singing and most likely, it's because they started performing at a very young age. When Lea opens up and belts she sounds really good but not that whine/cry at the beginning of her phrases. That should be a big N.O. when performing a piece that was A) Written in the MidCentury and B) Evokes an even earlier time when Disney Princess-style singing was unheard of. Fanny Brice was a formidable WOMAN (as is Barbra Streisand) and she was also an elegant woman in real life--nothing like the characters she played in the Follies.
@lwest284
@lwest284 Жыл бұрын
I will be seeing Funny Girl in August and then again in Sept with Lea and I cannot wait!
@MagentaRoseRed
@MagentaRoseRed Жыл бұрын
It's really nice to see someone being kind and and empathetic in their analysis. 💜
@estudiorobertoayala
@estudiorobertoayala Жыл бұрын
Loved every minute, I work in showbussines in Mexico, and had done several musicals here, Colombia and Argentina.. you are so right in your post, I saw Funny Girl when I was 7, and did not understood in my 7 years old English the lyrics But I asked my parents why do the PEOPLE went wild?.. I knew it soon. Had seen this show in London twice with the lead AND the undesrtudy .. great, and saw this one on BROADWAY.. once at the theatre where I worked here un Mexico City had the rights to do this show..impossible to make a fair translation Take care Roberto Ayala
@Rye_Smile
@Rye_Smile Жыл бұрын
You are so fair, balanced, and insightful in your assessment. Followed!
@donnalthood3102
@donnalthood3102 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Such a knowlegeable and insightful review. New fan!
@nonosays
@nonosays Жыл бұрын
Great analysis! I don't think Leah has anything like the richness or texture to her voice of Streisand, but she channels her well and will do a fine job on Broadway. Beanie has a lot of charm which I think made her characterization work, not only acting-wise but vocally too, at least to a degree. She was a bit heavy for the role- not because we don't want to see a plus-size actress, but because Fanny was a real person who wasn't heavy, it's something we know about her. I'm glad Beanie was given a chance to put her unique stamp on this great role, and look forward to Leah doing the same.
@MusicTheatreTheory
@MusicTheatreTheory Жыл бұрын
While it’s true that the real Fanny Brice wasn’t heavy, my perspective on this is… well, the real Fanny Brice also didn’t break out into “Don’t Rain On My Parade” at a train station. Since we are seeing a fictionalized representation, it is valid (and maybe even adds additional depth to the story) to cast someone who doesn’t look like the real person they’re representing. Look at the casting of Hamilton, for example: there is something incredibly reclamatory and powerful about casting BIPOC performers to play white men who owned slaves. Similarly, I think Beanie’s casting adds a new dimension to the story, making it relevant to today. Think about this: Fanny faced a lot of obstacles in show biz due to her appearance as a Jewish woman, similar to how plus-size performers face a lot of those obstacles in show biz today!
@nonosays
@nonosays Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheatreTheory The musical HAMILTON was explicitly constructed with the device of depicting historical Caucasian characters as African-American. The use of hip hop, rap and race is its' central conceit. It doesn't resonate with everybody, but plenty find it brilliant and exciting. FUNNY GIRL wasn't conceived that way. This is a revival, not an original work. That should be respected. Non-traditional casting can often be great, but it can also be distracting and confusing. There is room for all points of view, in any case, and we will have to agree to disagree.
@delphinedjomo
@delphinedjomo Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheatreTheory I love this breakdown! I definitely think your point about her facing struggles as a plus size woman being analogous to Fanny Brice facing discrimination as a Jewish woman in a time that was much more anti-Semitic is a great point. Funny Girl is based on a true story and a real person (like Hamilton was) but adapting certain elements to resonate better in a modern climate is a great route for storytelling. I love your take on this! I think for both the sake of representation and its role in modernizing the tale, a plus size woman playing Fanny Brice makes complete sense and should not be discounted because the "real" Fanny Brice (and mind you, this is a fictionalized version of her character this isn’t a biopic) was slim.
@lazenbear
@lazenbear Жыл бұрын
I thought the casting of a bigger actress was actually perfect. Fanny was so far from the ideals of beauty that were seen on the stage back then. Now we have more people with "ethnic" features on stage so getting someone who looked exactly like Fanny wouldn't really carry the same impact. But we don't see big women in leading roles on stage, so the spirit is the same even if her weight isn't historically accurate.
@nonosays
@nonosays Жыл бұрын
@@lazenbear I'm a plus-size actress and I remain unconvinced that the audience has such a metaphysical attitude that they see Beanie's weight as a symbol of the anti-Semitic oppression Fanny faced. I may be great reading Vi in AUGUST, OSAGE COUNTY, but casting will see me as Mattie Fay. That's just the business of show. Good luck to Beanie, she's fabulous in any case.
@robwilliamson5082
@robwilliamson5082 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s such a shame that Beanie is leaving so soon. I saw her last month and she was wonderful and she had some very powerful vocal moments where she opened up, I think if she had more time to truly settle into the role vocally people would be saying kinder things. Cause Fanny has a million things to do, and doing it 7/8 times a week I assume would be exhausting and finding the best way to sing the score so much can take a while. I’ve heard many an actor talk about adjusting their sound to produce the best sound, while still delivering what’s expected. I truly believe if Beanie had her full initial run she would have found the right balance.
@mgmbacklot
@mgmbacklot Жыл бұрын
BF looks nothing like Fanny Brice.
@robwilliamson5082
@robwilliamson5082 Жыл бұрын
@@mgmbacklot ok so I sense body shaming here, so that’s gross. Also. If you think Lea looks any more like Fanny than Beanie does, you’re just even more wrong than you’re initial comment was. Lea may look more like Streisand, but even Streisand is Not Fanny Brice.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
@@robwilliamson5082 any actress that plays FB has to deliver on her iconic funny face. FB had a rather scrawny frame; but I don't really care if the actress is fat as long as she can give me FB's "look". it's 2022, y'all. Lizzo is up there shaking that big fat ass and changing the world. we are here for the big girls. BF was a disaster, and it wasn't because she's fat. BF might have had this role handed to her on a silver platter, but nepotism can't help fatigue. there's no way that voice would be able to do more than 20-30 shows. BF's understudy is one lucky girl!
@donna25871
@donna25871 Жыл бұрын
All I’m reading here are a lot of excuses why Beanie couldn’t cut the mustard. Let’s just call her hiring nepotism and move on.
@mgmbacklot
@mgmbacklot Жыл бұрын
@@robwilliamson5082 I have Zero support for Lea, she's a cold and snotty person, i know this from interacting with her during the production of glee. The original production of funny girl was more a star vehicle for Streisand than, an accurate bio of Fanny. I'm not body shaming here. You wouldn't hire danny devito to play jack skelington. Who would accept that casting?
@deen1843
@deen1843 Жыл бұрын
Must be very difficult to give this song a performance that differs from Barbra. Lillias White sang this song for the 2002 Actors Fund Benefit (it's on YT), which was uniquely different and powerful. Really worth a watch.
@josephmichael7133
@josephmichael7133 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with a lot of what you said, but I keep saying this to all of these people commenting because they are pissed Lea Michele is replacing her. The truth of the matter is, you can’t take what a couple people say on set as fact and judge her for it. Also, it’s exactly right that she should be allowed to be human and people should leave Glee in the past and focus on how she acts moving forward. She also didn’t dismiss what people said about her and call them out for it, but she apologized for the way her actions may have been taken, and I think she handled it in a mature manner. Everyone has people they may not get along with, and negativity is what goes viral, so I think people need to take accusations with a grain of salt and not believe it as fact. I am excited and happy for Lea Michele, and I am sick of people trying to now put Lea Michele down because of her past and accusations, while there were a lot of concerns regarding Beanie being chosen simply based on nepotism which isn’t right and if you look into how she got the role, I think it’s also problematic. Why are people not discussing the problems with Beanie being chosen for the role in the first place? People love to ignore that, and just trash Lea Michele. I think Beanie gave her own version of Fanny Brice and so will Lea Michele, and there is room for both of them :)
@RY-fe3rt
@RY-fe3rt Жыл бұрын
Very well said! You, sir, are a gentleman, scholar and a diplomat.
@BerryStraw15
@BerryStraw15 Жыл бұрын
She sang this live on the Glee Concert. You should have picked up that video, not the one from Glee.
@atdomb
@atdomb Жыл бұрын
I have just returned from a NYC trip where I saw 4 shows. With all the negative attention on Funny Girl, it was lower on my list; However, a Covid cast outbreak in a different show I was supposed to see freed me up to see Beanie Feldstein in the Funny Girl matinee on the same day she announced her earlier departure (Sunday). All the people around me shared the same initial concern before the show began. Several of us (who got last-minute tickets) had seriously upgraded seats designated by the usher (I'm sure not a good indicator). Nonetheless... The show was fabulous! Every aspect was great. The staging was impressive, the comedic timing was great, the chemistry between Beanie and Ramim was good, Beanie's vocals were wonderful, and her dancing was great. Jane was fabulous too. The audience gave multiple applauses mid-show and a resounding much-deserved standing ovation at the end. I don't know if it was due to changes because of all the criticism over the past several months or if it was simply the criticism was too harsh comparing Beanie to a freak prodigy (Streisand) - to which how many Streisand-calibre stars have there been in the past 50+ years?!!? Even Idina Menzel's performance at the Kennedy Awards to Barbra herself (while incredible) was not quite Barbra'esque. Beanie should not be compared to anyone! Allow Beanie to tell the story of Fanny Brice - the actual protagonist in this true-life story, not try and retell Barbra's caricature of Fanny. I feel so bad for Beanie! She doesn't deserve any of this... and I enjoyed the show very much!
@pedro4464
@pedro4464 Жыл бұрын
Your final remarks were very diplomatic and understanding. Props to that.
@sonicoluzzi
@sonicoluzzi Жыл бұрын
Though I'm quick to criticize Lea Michelle's performances and atitude, her interpretation of this song is ICONIC. Like, "Changed-my-life" kinda iconic. Gotta respect that.
@NickieOHara
@NickieOHara Жыл бұрын
now you've pointed out the breath thing, I can't unhear it!! Your critique is spot on however it's important to understand that the clip you're using is from Glee series 1 in 2009 - 13 years ago.
@Daytondaily
@Daytondaily Жыл бұрын
You literally need to do this live. I don’t know why you’d use a pre-recording lmao
@edwardonochie3565
@edwardonochie3565 Жыл бұрын
She’s done it live countless times
@nathanielhalls1893
@nathanielhalls1893 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardonochie3565 but the one she sang at the awards thing where she wore a white dress was not her best at alll
@katiee4396
@katiee4396 Жыл бұрын
I think Beanie’s voice is good, but it’s too pretty for a role like Fanny Brice. Beanie would be amazing in a show like Once because of the kind of voice she has. I think she would be great in Little Shop of Horrors playing Audrey. Her voice to me sounds good, she can sing (her rendition of The Meadowlark is actually very sweet), but her voice is sweet and pretty, not big and boisterous the way it would need to be for certain roles. But Beanie is iconic and I will always support her because she seems like a genuinely good person.
@nekusakura6748
@nekusakura6748 Жыл бұрын
I could see Beanie doing a solid rendition of 'Part of that World' from 'The Little Mermaid.
@darrencoutts6227
@darrencoutts6227 Жыл бұрын
I saw Beanie as Fanny Brice and I really enjoyed the whole performance. From a historical standpoint Fanny Brice was more a comedic genius than a singer. The haters will hate, I am glad I got to see the original cast.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
but... it's a musical, though. you know?
@nattievoices
@nattievoices Жыл бұрын
I’m just glad Lea can’t win a tony when she takes over for Beanie.
@mgmbacklot
@mgmbacklot Жыл бұрын
Beanie looks nothing like Fanny Brice. That alone should have prevented the casting.
@w.k.astrolabe280
@w.k.astrolabe280 Жыл бұрын
@@mgmbacklot Lin Manuel Miranda looks nothing like Hamilton, so maybe that shouldn't have happened either. Let's just go back to the good old show like Miss Saigon and that wonderful kidnapping plot in Seven Brides for Seven Brothers. (I'm clearly joking and you, sir, need to take a good look at yourself and how you treat people. You comment is dually inappropriate because the most recent video you posted on your channel is of a woman singing a WONDERFUL rendition of somewhere over the rainbow. Are you saying she should not have been allowed to play Dorothy? You are a disappointment to the world of theatre because you judge the quality of an actor based on what they look like, not their ability as a professional.)
@reddragon-bj7bs
@reddragon-bj7bs Жыл бұрын
The problem is funny girl the musical wwas literally made around Barbra it needs her sort of vocal presence and power. They set beanie up for failure, it's not her fault.
@jessakent2049
@jessakent2049 Жыл бұрын
I love when people do back-to-back comparisons of the Lea Michelle version vs. the Naya Rivera version (also from Glee). Naya knocks it down into her mezzo range but I really love her voice. Would you consider doing one?
@moreandmore7962
@moreandmore7962 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Barbra a Mezzo too? But yeah Naya is a lower Mezzo. DROMP is not an easy song, but it's still in Mezzo range. It's just the song is quite acrobatic. CMIIW
@Tronipule
@Tronipule Жыл бұрын
loved the way you explained their vocals. Thank you very much
@gogosqueez3367
@gogosqueez3367 Жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn't come off as too harsh, but I do believe if Beanie really had that much vocal damage and couldn't push her voice very far then she was very miscast for this role and should've never really been considered in the first place. I think that her father being a producer on the show was the priority reason she was even cast tbh. So while I do feel bad about the criticism, I do think some of it (not all of it, and especially not the fat shaming ones) is valid. Like if she cant sing the role how Fanny Brice would, then she shouldve never been on the stage in the first place, you know, seeing as the show is literally about her and the expectation of the audience is to hear a big and powerful voice.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
here's the thing: being a professional singer is all about stamina. there's a great video about this called "the new girls can't sing".
@TheBeverly7
@TheBeverly7 Жыл бұрын
@@apatouros7572 Yes to that video!!!!
@Doktorlady
@Doktorlady Жыл бұрын
The nepotism thing with her father being involved in the show is just a rumor
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
@@Doktorlady so you're saying that there's just a "rumor" about a rich white family and their rich friends bought a role for their daughter, who lacks expertise in this role - resulting in her having a end the contract VERY early? sounds about right 😆 remember this: rich people can pay for discretion.
@samanthagreen576
@samanthagreen576 Жыл бұрын
I knew nothing about the controversy or either actor but clicked on this because my little sister was literally just singing this (it's currently the centerpiece of her audition repertoire) and I was curious how she compared. Ended up being even more relevant when you started talking about Beanie's struggles with vocal damage because my sister had issues with her voice about a year ago and is still having to be extra careful. I don't know any of the technical terms but my sister's issues were luckily not as severe or permanent as they could have been so she can still belt and everything, she just has to be careful about it. Anyways, this was very interesting and I love how compassionate you are to both Beanie and Lea. You're totally right that people need to be given room to grow as people and not be permanently shackled to mistakes made when they were young and immature and Beanie may not have been the best casting choice to achieve the same kind of vocals Barbara Streisand did but it does seem like people are being harsher than necessary so I'm sending virtual hugs to her.
@KT-sq2ml
@KT-sq2ml Жыл бұрын
I was taught many years ago (80’s) by a voice teacher to not pronounce the R sounds at ends of words - to focus on the vowels. Would you say that’s incorrect? I’m not talking as severe as singing “comAH” instead of “comeR” but I specifically recall her stressing NOT to linger on the RRRR sound (I guess it comes across nasally?) I wondered what your thoughts were on this?
@MusicTheatreTheory
@MusicTheatreTheory Жыл бұрын
Great question -- there's definitely a difference between grrrrripping onto your R's (in a way that tightens your voice and doesn't allow you to resonate), and adding a quick little R at the very tail-end of the note, just so that the audience understands what you're saying. It's also important to think about character; I'm from Canada, and up here we tend to pronounce our R's at the end of our words, so if you were playing a Canadian character and didn't put those R's on the ends of your words it wouldn't be true to the character you're trying to portray!
@KT-sq2ml
@KT-sq2ml Жыл бұрын
@@MusicTheatreTheory Thanks, Mateo! Look forward to learning more from you! I should have mentioned that I’m originally from New Jersey, and although dropping the end R off words isn’t exactly a NJ “thing,” it’s definitely a New York accent (or at least my Brooklyn born and raised grandmother left R off the ends of her words!)
@stevekirschman354
@stevekirschman354 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@stephenbeaudoin7924
@stephenbeaudoin7924 Жыл бұрын
... except that Ms. Michele is lip-syncing here while filming, and so it's impossible to comment on her actual vowel/mouth shapes as nobody filmed her singing the actual track to which she is lip-syncing in this filmed segment. Lots of great analysis here otherwise!
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
yeah, I really don't understand why this video was made.
@jamessampson7175
@jamessampson7175 Жыл бұрын
I suspected so. Thanks for pointing that out. Again, which makes me wonder how wunder-Michelle will handle seven shows a week--and Parade is only ONE of the blockbuster arias in FG!
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
@@jamessampson7175 ...much better than BF had, I'll tell you that. check her attendance record and see for yourself. LM has experience leading a Broadway production, and she did the Glee tours. she has the stamina. she only lip-sync'd because that's how it's done did for scripted TV. likeeeeee... ??? 🤦🤦🤦 say LM is a racist/meanie/bitch/whatever; but don't come for the girl's chops when the ONLY reason BF is up on that stage is nepotism. I'd go as far to say LM is *singlehandedly* responsible for the renewed interest in Funny Girl, and she should have been headlining a post-Glee revival.
@mbpendleton
@mbpendleton Жыл бұрын
@@jamessampson7175 She grew up on Broadway...she will most likely handle it.
@star_baker
@star_baker Жыл бұрын
A better example would be live at the Tonys. She basically mimicked the scene but you could hear how straining the song is. No one does it like Barbra.
@secondaryactons
@secondaryactons Жыл бұрын
It's interesting how you feel like Barbra doesn't trill much. I'm sure she does but it's subtle when compared to modern singers. That said, the trill at 5:08 was lifted directly from Streisand's performance in the 1968 film. Barbra (especially in early recordings) was adept and jazy vocalizations that featured, growls, trills, and riffs.
@howlingghosts7304
@howlingghosts7304 Жыл бұрын
I subbed after just watching the opening of the video.
@HerHollyness
@HerHollyness Жыл бұрын
Finally someone mentioning the “h” cry sounds! When I was a teen watching Glee I used to find that SO irritating but no one else seemed to pick up on it!
@danielmcdonald4717
@danielmcdonald4717 Жыл бұрын
You’re a swell guy dude, keep on making videos, you do them correctly and with love and passion. I.J.S.
@bettymaines6305
@bettymaines6305 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully LM has grown as a person , and I appreciate your attitude that we not be so judgemental about someone ‘s past such that they are set up for future failure because of past mistakes. And while perhaps not a positive thing , the reality is the vast majority of people who will go see Funny Girl will go because of the performance and entertainment value of the musical, and not because of the character of the performers.
@jazzenthuiagirl
@jazzenthuiagirl Жыл бұрын
My choir director used to call it scooping. Would you say that's the same or different from vocal cry?
@jorielgeroleo
@jorielgeroleo Жыл бұрын
An honest and heartfelt review. Thank you 🎉
@JeffBazell
@JeffBazell Жыл бұрын
Regarding the 'open mouth' full voice of Lea....please remember that Glee used all pre-recorded soundtracks and lip-syncing, so, as you probably already know singers tend to over-act the mouth when lip syncing. Except Barbra. She did the opposite. PS: Ya' married? LOL
@haris8853
@haris8853 Жыл бұрын
Whilst the critics have been unkind, I'm not sure what Beanie expected after basically being given the role since her father is one of the producers. She didn't audition for the role, she wasn't chosen because she was the best singer/actor who auditioned. She was simply lucky enough to have been given the role. Lea Michele seems like the right person for the role, she looks the part and has a strong enough voice to be compared to Barbra.
@apatouros7572
@apatouros7572 Жыл бұрын
👀👀👀👀👀
@captainKbobkeeshan
@captainKbobkeeshan Жыл бұрын
This cannot be stressed enough. IF true, that she was given the role. I get that lots of people are TIP-TOEing around Beanie's performance, because she's so nice. And that says a lot about Beanie. But, her voice is tiny, girly (like a 5 year old), nasally, and not powerful. Which is disappointing and underwhelming for the STAR of this show. This is NOT being mean. This is acknowledging that people are paying a large sum of money for great performances and overall a great musical. She was miscast and should not be in this role.
@haris8853
@haris8853 Жыл бұрын
@@captainKbobkeeshan THANK YOU! I think theres a really clear line between being mean and simply commenting on a performance. It's not at all mean to say Beanie's voice is nasal and not powerful because we can all hear those qualities in her voice! Lea Michele is truly one of the few people who are capable of being compared to Barbra! I think Beanie would do great in other shows, if she'd even get cast after being fired from Funny Girl!
@kelseighingram
@kelseighingram Жыл бұрын
Except her dad isn’t one of the producers. Nothing has been found to confirm he put money into the show.
@captainKbobkeeshan
@captainKbobkeeshan Жыл бұрын
@@kelseighingram Maybe. But, connections are a real thing. I find it inexplicable why she would be chosen to open a musical like that versus a "name". Especially, after the Ben Platt 90th Sondheim collab on "It Takes Two." I don't think that showed her in a favorable light for the Funny Girl role. From that, I could see her being cast as the Little Red Riding role in "Into the Woods". And even with that I"m concerned about Beanie being able to power through on the vocals. Bonnie Milligan should have been given the shot for Funny Girl. She's got the pipes, sass, presence. But is she connected? Or someone else that exudes presence and power vocals.
@ClarkRahman
@ClarkRahman Жыл бұрын
Totally on your page about almost every point. You can tell that Lea Michele, in that clip, is almost going between Babs and Elphaba in Wicked. I hope she is working on the control, as you mentioned, with that many shows a week.
@uroojusmani5697
@uroojusmani5697 Жыл бұрын
This was GREATT analysis
@mirellasala4776
@mirellasala4776 Жыл бұрын
Leas voice is so amazing. It has been always great , but now , after so many years… it’s so much better. Love her always and so happy that she is doing this. 🥰
@vanessav810
@vanessav810 Жыл бұрын
Beanie is a nepotism baby, she only got this part because of her family connections. I think Lea is a powerhouse vocalist, she definitely has a tone that can be grating to some ears but even haters can't deny her talent.
@SamyLovesSam
@SamyLovesSam Жыл бұрын
Agreed, she appears like a nice person but if I pay hundreds of dollars on tickets alone I want to see a breath taking performance not an okay one.
@punkwrestle
@punkwrestle Жыл бұрын
Actually that’s false information, her father is not associated with the production at all. Just a vicious rumor put out by haters.
@vanessav810
@vanessav810 Жыл бұрын
@@punkwrestle no, I mean the fact that her entire acting career is on the coattails of her very famous brother, Jonah Hill.
@larkmacgregor3143
@larkmacgregor3143 Жыл бұрын
@@vanessav810 That's absurd. She didn't get cast in the things she's done (and been critically praised for, not incidentally) because she is Jonah Hill's sister- he had nothing to do with Lady Bird, Booksmart, What We Do In The Shadows, or Hello, Dolly. If you don't like her, just say so, but don't pretend that she only got cast in things because of her family connections not her talent, because it isn't true.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint Жыл бұрын
What you have to understand about Hollywood is that they are all nepotism babies by now. To say that she only got the roll because of her dad ignores the likely doesens of other actresses who have parents and siblings with similar power and status probably would be compeating for the same roll.
@nettie607
@nettie607 Жыл бұрын
I was taught that the "cry" like scooping, was a tool to be used. But if they aren't used sparingly, they lose all effectiveness. I am sad that Beanie has been forced out of Funny Girl. I was excited about a different take from Barbra.
@katiee4396
@katiee4396 Жыл бұрын
I’m taking voice lessons currently and my teacher always gets on me for scooping saying it’s not necessary haha
@darren340
@darren340 Жыл бұрын
Very kind fair diplomatic analysis.
@tonyandrade8131
@tonyandrade8131 Жыл бұрын
It is such an unfortunate situation. What is even more unfortunate, is how much these poor actresses are compared to the likes of Barbara Streisand. Yes, she originated the part, and it catapulted her career... but that happened over half a century ago. Let it go... Can we be more evolved and forward thinking to stop comparing actors playing roles they are re-creating and comparing them to another person. EVERY actor and actress is unique and special and brings their unique gifts to each role they take on. We should not criticize them for not being the original person... they are only doing their job as an actor and creating the role as they see fit. It is disappointing that people cannot take Beanie's portrayal for face value... a gift that she is giving us with her talent, and a real shame that Broadway producers are far more interested in money instead of the arts. I am sure Lea Michele will do a wonderful job as well, but for every 'great' talent out there... there are over one hundred people out there that are even more talented, and more are being born every minute... so just enjoy what every actor brings to you.
@MissCaraMint
@MissCaraMint Жыл бұрын
Thing about Barbra Streisand is if I wanted to hear her version of these songsI would just watch the movie. If it’s just a copy of Barbra over and over then what’s the point of seing a live show at all?
@anthonyquarles5762
@anthonyquarles5762 Жыл бұрын
Please do a review/analysis of Patti Lupone's Everything's Coming Up Roses, Being Alive, or Rainbow High
@michelegiallombardo3914
@michelegiallombardo3914 Жыл бұрын
The only comparison should be when Lea Michele actual performs the part of Fanny Brice on Broadway. Why should she perform it exactly like Ms. Streisand? She’ll then be criticized for “copying” her. The point being let us not criticize Lea Michele before she performs and for who she is as a person. I’m sure there are a few wonderful performers who are not the best of people. Give her a chance. After her first few performances, come back and critique.
@kunst7958
@kunst7958 Жыл бұрын
Check out her version of “My man” from funny girl. It was AMAZING. She performed it live at a Barbra Streisand tribute concert (in front of Barbra) and she did great (she must have been nervous but it almost didn’t show). You could perhaps listen to the Glee performance and then the live at tribute to hear how it’s almost the same
@kunst7958
@kunst7958 Жыл бұрын
And she portrayed the emotions extremely well at that live performance. It’s clear she’s broadway trained actress
@williamgardiner2010
@williamgardiner2010 Жыл бұрын
Of course My Man was never part of the original Funny Girl score but was added into the film as Fanny Brice traditionally closed her live shows with that eleven o’clock song by French composer Maurice Yvain. It replaced The Music That Makes Me Dance, a lovely ballad, which has been restored to the show.
@OriDaganJazz
@OriDaganJazz Жыл бұрын
Way to go Mateo!!! 😃👍❤️
@JC-jf6zu
@JC-jf6zu Жыл бұрын
Lea did a live version bro!
@SandViolet
@SandViolet Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
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