Ancestry's Chromosome Painter: Does It Reflect Reality?

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We've asked Ancestry for a chromosome browser. They gave us an ethnicity-based chromosome painter. Does this help genetic genealogists?
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
00:55 First Problem with the Painter
01:48 23andMe vs Ancestry Chromosome Painter
03:12 African Heritage Chromosome Painting
04:08 Why so much variance for African DNA?
06:10 Child to Parent's Chromosome Paintings
11:34 Ethnicity results aren't exact
12:21 Paintings for People Without Matches
14:17 Final Review of Chromosome Painter
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@tonygriffin6049
@tonygriffin6049 Жыл бұрын
They need to give us a browser instead of toys...
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
AGREED. If I could insert a GIF that points to this, I would.
@sr2291
@sr2291 Жыл бұрын
In the side by side the Irish and Nigerian are on opposite sides. On the browser they are on the same side. Also Ancestry needs to allow us compare cousin matches in the Chromosome Browser.
@danaleeds9819
@danaleeds9819 Жыл бұрын
Bravo, Andy! As another person whose ancestry is from NW Europe and has had both parents tested, this has been my experience, too. Also, you mentioned several times how you are seeing entire chromosomes representing a specific region. All of my chromosomes are showing 100% from a specific region. Really, what are the odds of that happening? So with people from NW Europe, I do not currently find this tool useful. In fact I would say it is misleading as those who haven't tested their parents cannot see how inaccurate their results are. Thanks for sharing!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Dana, Devon will be so happy to hear you agree with her more strongly than what I shared in this video. She will especially like the part that you said "misleading as those who haven't tested their parents cannot see how inaccurate their results are." That's her take away but since she's the Debbie Downer of DNA, she didn't want to put forth her confusion. I'll let her know she's in good company with you.
@drewsg3
@drewsg3 Жыл бұрын
One thing I really dislike is the color scheme. It makes it hard to distinguish when you're made up of ethnicities from multiple continents. For 23andMe, it's very clear. Shades of blue are European, shades of green are South Asian, Red/Orange East Asian, and purple are African. Ancestry has the similiar colors from different continents like Ireland is purple, and Bengal is light purple. It makes no sense. I hope this is the first step in giving us a full chromosome browser.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
One can only hope. right?
@RebeccaC2007
@RebeccaC2007 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video and research. I’m adopted and found the ancestry chromosome painter helpful, in it helped me to decipher between who was parent one and two. I am lucky and knew my biological father’s surname was Irish and my biological mother’s name either Yorkshire or Orkney Islands (Scotland). It was then fairly simple to work out which parent was paternal and which maternal. Thanks to a lady (related to my paternal line) who had built an in-depth public family tree on ancestry, I was also able to find out where my biological paternal line came from in Ireland and England. It meant so much to me, after years of wondering and not wanting to offend or hurt my adopted parents. My maternal side showed more or less what I expected, with a sort of surprise. I can only offer gratitude to people who unknowingly help adopted or foundlings by sharing public family trees and whom take dna tests. I do agree the ethnicity percentages and chromosome painters may be slightly off, in that they still aren’t accurate enough in being able to distinguish between certain close communities due to mixing over many generations.
@GenealogyTV
@GenealogyTV Жыл бұрын
Interesting video Andy. Since my folks passed away before DNA came around I am not able to do the kind of comparison you did. This was very enlightening. Thanks!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. I appreciate it. My wife's parents passed away before we could test them as well. I love having my parents' DNA and one line my grandparents. It makes analysis very interesting.
@timothysykes1135
@timothysykes1135 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for demonstrating the major pitfalls of Ancestry’s chromosome painter. To be fair, you did say that it’s in beta phase. Your video really hit the mark and it clearly shows that this painter needs some serious work or a major rethink. I’ve been using my verified (by record) matches on GEDmatch and the DNA Painter tools to map chromosome segments that I can assign to MRCAs. This is the capability that I’d like to see on Ancestry but I’m probably in the minority. I only wish more DNA testers would upload their test results to GEDmatch, then I could really make some progress. Is there another reliable way to assign unknown matches to an MRCA couple other that DNA painter? Thanks, and I love your channel!
@Jibcutter
@Jibcutter Жыл бұрын
Great job highlighting this. I attempted to identify my paternal/maternal sides for many of my kits using aunt/uncle/cousin/single parent tested kits in tandem - it wasn't working extremely well. Wish we had a full-blown chromosome browser on Ancestry ....
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I wish we had the chromosome browse as well.
@davidirwin1549
@davidirwin1549 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out how with the European results "basically nothing is broken up" on each chromosome because I thought that was funny too as 23andMe "breaks it up more" as does FTDNA. To date I have looked at the "ethnicity results of thousands of my matches on Ancestry" which are all predominately Northwestern European. Basically "all of the results with only a few exceptions" look "identical with each other with the same Scotland, England, Sweden/Denmark, Ireland, Wales and Norway results". It looks as if Ancestry "really hasn't made much of an effort" and has written off people of mainly Northwestern European ancestry and have given them "almost identical ethnicity estimates and chromosome results" with "no real effort put in". They appear to have folded Pennsylvania Dutch German into either England or Sweden/Denmark even though the vast majority of people I know who got these results have no (0) Scandinavian ancestry that came to North America via Scandinavia. So is this Viking ancestry ? That would go back over 1,000 years. If this is the case then "why is there no breakdown for other ethnicities people would probably have" over the last 1,000 years such as Italian, Iberian and Native American ancestry like 23andMe reports on
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Since I don't know for Ancestry, I don't know the whys behind the results we see. I just see the confusion when people comment on these videos and in other platforms wondering how to make sense of the ethnicity results.
@jeromevspears
@jeromevspears Жыл бұрын
Andy this was great! I don't want "shiny objects" and YES, (sorry Jack) "I CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH"! If the various DNA testing companies are working hard to provide us with the most accurate information they can (based on current science and capabilities), I'm all for that. If they are putting out "beta products" but WORKING toward the goal I just stated - correcting as they go and "bringing us along" as they improve their methods - I'm all for that too. But if they are putting out "shiny objects" that they KNOW have multiple major flaws (and will just confuse and frustrate people) NOT COOL! Thanks again Andy (your wife and family) for all that you do! YOU ROCK! my friend!!!! JVS
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support and your comments. They did say this was BETA. However, my impression of BETA products doesn't mean a full roll out to users but an invitation from a select group of testers to, well, 'test' the product. Ancestry isn't the only platform that rolls out "Betas" to the general public rather than a test group. It's not pleasant.
@davidboyles47
@davidboyles47 Жыл бұрын
Excellent. The only thing missing in your presentation is the fact that we get ONLY 50% of each parent's DNA, and presumably ONLY 50% of their respective ethnicities. And there's nothing we can do about it, obviously. Furthermore, there is absolutely nothing to say, as far as I'm aware, that the 50% of a parent's DNA that is transmitted to a child is representative of the entirety of that parent's ethnicity. In other words, the ethnicity tool is based on the fallacy that the ethnicity transmitted is representative of that of the parent.
@LanceHall
@LanceHall Жыл бұрын
According to my uncle's DNA my Indian grandmother has at least half a chromosome of Norwegian. I call BS.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Call it what you want. Just keep leaving me comments on the videos you watch. Thanks for the continuous support man.
@jjbud3124
@jjbud3124 Жыл бұрын
I think I was able to sort out which DNA I got from each parent with this browser, although I'm not sure how important that was. I had some trouble at first because the percentages of my parents are so close to one another (they are both long deceased, so not tested). There was only one of them that had Welsh ancestry, and from my mother's ancestors having a Welsh surname, that's how I decided. Actually, you really need a family tree along with DNA testing to really get anywhere.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
"You really need a family tree along with DNA testing to really get anywhere." This is what I preach on this channel.
@nancyharris4913
@nancyharris4913 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! I was totally confused by my results...with 3 entire chromosomes painted as Wales (10% of my ethnicity according to Ancestry), and my matches did not line up with that. I won't waste anymore time with this tool. That's unfortunate because I was hoping it coud help me identify unknown matches that were from my Welsh line.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics 10 ай бұрын
A Chromosome Browser helps with matching. A Painter is just a pretty picture.
@pam.h4007
@pam.h4007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It prompted me to compare my parents' results with my own. Mine says I got my only Swedish/Danish on chrom 13 from my mom (there is a tab at the top to select either paternal or maternal), but hers says her Swedish/Danish is on 1 & 4. My dad has his Swedish/Danish on 1, 6 and 12. So it is not correlating. Now - I should mention that I share the expected number of cM with each parent, so they are my birth parents. It's definitely not correlating. In case you are wondering - I do share the expected number of cM with each parent, so they are my birth parents! You can give feedback by clicking the line at the top of the page. They are asking about our experience and what would enhance this feature. They are also asking how important adding trait info is - personally I don't care at all about that, I'd just like the ethnicity to correlate. haha
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for testing out the tool. Ancestry does put out the feedback request tools with every product launch. It's up to users to decide if they want to share their feedback.
@tobypetzold4540
@tobypetzold4540 Жыл бұрын
Andy, I think your struggle and ambivalence in explaining this browser, when you are often excellent at explaining things, tell me all I need to know. It isn't a serious product. Moreover, it is a product based on the racial/ethnic thing that Ancestry likes to promote when they should be promoting interaction between human beings. Like with an actual chromosome browser.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment. I am not really a fan of these ethnicity tools. This should come as no surprise as I focus on tree building not ethnicity results on this channel.
@thisuserdoenotexist
@thisuserdoenotexist 11 ай бұрын
I like this new feature, It's fun and interesting. However I don't think It's perfect. The whole chromosomes of ancestry are extremely unrealistic especially considering my background, and some chromosome assignments don't align at all with other sites (I have 23andme and others to compare) or with DNA matches backgrounds on other sites. It is decent though. I am hopeful they'll update and tweak it though :). Excited for a 2023 update!
@aranmcdonagh255
@aranmcdonagh255 Жыл бұрын
What does the numberinh of they mean & why do they get smaller down
@Holy_Moley
@Holy_Moley Жыл бұрын
I wish they would take it a step further, and allow you to see which DNA Matches are matching on different portions. I wonder if it would help separate matches from paternal and maternal sides. Otherwise, it didn't seem useful. The only thing that came up strange, was that it came up with Welsh on my paternal side, when I expected it on my maternal, where it didn't show up. It is interesting the way you've found mistakes. Hopefully it will get better over time.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
You're basically wishing for something called a chromosome browser that is available on 23andMe and MyHeritage. We keep passing along the information to the developers. Right now, I think the biggest hurdle is how to handle privacy - something Ancestry is more strict with than others.
@russbeers9613
@russbeers9613 Жыл бұрын
Question: If I'm able to determine on a few chromosomes that, say, my mother's DNA is represented in the upper bar, is it safe to assume to assume that ALL the upper bars are a representation of my mom's DNA contribution? Or are they mixed up, sometimes upper and sometimes lower...? Thanks
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
NEVER ASSUME ANYTHING. The Chromosome Painter isn't really a Parent 1 / Parent 2 differentiation either.
@sheppeyescapee
@sheppeyescapee Жыл бұрын
I'm currently working on DNA Painter comparing all the chromosome paintings and it is interesting that Ancestry divides it in large chunks compared to 23andme. Hence, the same segment looks very different for me as someone who is very mixed. For example, I have a segment on Chromosome 1 which Ancestry paints as one chunk of Cameroon, Congo and Western Bantu Peoples. In contrast, on 23andme it's divided into Angolan & Congolese, Filipino & Austronesian and South Chinese and FTDNA breaks it up into a mixture of Northeast Asian, Western Europe, Indian Subcontinent and Central African. I have lots of chunks like this across most of my chromosomes.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Yep. That's been my experience as well.
@sheppeyescapee
@sheppeyescapee Жыл бұрын
​@@FamilyHistoryFanatics The other issue I have with the Ancestry painting compared to the 23andme is that certain segments seem to have been assigned to my paternal side when they should be maternal. To be fair my 23andme is phased to both parents so they have more data to work with, but I can line these segments up exactly. For example on Chromosone 8 I have a chunk of Central & Eastern China on Ancestry that they have assigned as paternal which is Southern Chinese & Taiwanese on 23andme on the maternal copy. I've looked at all the segments of my Southern Indian and Central & Eastern China on the Ancestry painting that they think are paternal, same thing. My ethnicity inheritance is wrong on Ancestry and I can see where it is wrong on the chromosome painting. There are a large number of areas where there is consensus, especially between Ancestry and 23&me when it comes to my European DNA (largely British Isles and Dutch), but it falls down when it comes to my non-European DNA which tends to be lots of small segments of different ethnicities lumped together due to the nature of that side my heritage (Mauritian Creole with Malagasy, Mozambican, Southern Indian, and Chinese roots)
@tomdavis641
@tomdavis641 Жыл бұрын
mine also gave full chromosomes painted a single color. again, not matching well with 23 and me at all.
@sharonjacob4782
@sharonjacob4782 Жыл бұрын
Agreed this is more a toy than something serious like Gedmatch. But having said that I have an extremely diverse ethnicity much like your friend and this toy seems to work quite well with the diversity. I could easily recognize which was which parent just by one look. I do think the biggest problem is the homogeneous dna patterns from Europe the Scandinavia and UK. Seems almost every platform battles this problem.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your review.
@whyaskwhybuddry
@whyaskwhybuddry Жыл бұрын
Andy, 23/Me or Ancestry allow you to modify you Ancestry colors?? I've noticed that too many of my Lines are painted with faint shades of the same primary color. Makes it hard to distinguish if you can't see well
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
No, you can't modify the colors. Sorry.
@MichelleK.B.
@MichelleK.B. Жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with most of my chromosomes showing only one group. Only my dad was tested and there is no connection where I can match his results to my own. The new ethnicity estimate might have an issue with “Norwegian” ancestry. I can easily determine which parent is 1 & 2 in the side by side yet it says I inherited Norwegian from my dad but his current estimate shows no Norwegian at all. My sister tested before me and as soon as my results posted I could see that the ethnicity estimates would be pretty useless in helping me build a tree and know where our family came from. The differences between the ethnicity estimates for my sister on 23andMe versus mine are very interesting but nothing I would trust for genetic genealogy. Our ancestors from Southern Europe sometimes read as Balkan, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, Baltic, Greek or even Central Asian or Egyptian. It changes with each update and the groups on Ancestry are significantly different from the ones on 23andMe. I can confirm she is my sister and we connect to the same families through our matches but the rest is just pretty colors.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your review. I think we all need to hear the good and bad and decide what is worth spending our time on.
@agrotta1650
@agrotta1650 Жыл бұрын
23andme finally got my region of Italy correct, and then they "updated" again and got it wrong 😤🙇🙇🙇
@carokat1111
@carokat1111 Жыл бұрын
I am so frustrated by the recent ethnicity update. In the previous one, I had a 3% Welsh percentage and knew exactly which parent that came from. It was the only way I could sort out my parents. Now the Welsh has disappeared and has been replaced by Sweden and Denmark. No idea which parent is which now.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear of this.
@chrisanderson7945
@chrisanderson7945 Жыл бұрын
It couldn't read 10 quarters all together on chromosomal painter
@aspieatheist6040
@aspieatheist6040 Жыл бұрын
With my father's side of the family, All the chromosomes were only one color, but on many chromosomes of my mother's side of the family, they were two different colors.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
So you have the Ancestry preference for coloring a chromosome one solid color. Does that reflect reality?
@suzannemcclendon
@suzannemcclendon Жыл бұрын
So, if my father has Wales at the beginning of C-3 and I have Wales in the same area of C-3, can I assume that it comes from him and that side of the chromosome is him? That one is my only split chromosome. If that is the case, then you may have just helped me to figure out Parent 1 and Parent 2. ​My mother has Welsh ancestors, too, but she isn't tested on Ancestry, so I can't compare to her. She's on MyHeritage.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I would not assume anything at all from this tool. I would take anything as a possible clue. I have too many concerns about the accuracy of it to assume anything.
@suzannemcclendon
@suzannemcclendon Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I knew it couldn't be that easy. Oh well. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us on this tool, or a better word for it may be "distraction" since it isn't as accurate as it could be. My mother and bio father appear to have completely similar ancestries and it is making it impossible to sort out the Parent 1 and Parent 2 thing. If only mine could be as easy as my mother-in-law's! Her matrilineal great-grandparents are our family's most recent immigrant ancestors, coming from Bohemia/Austria in the 1860s and appear to have been there since time began. Her grandmother was a first generation American. Her grandfather's folks have been in the US since before it was the US, back in the early 1600s. Sorting her out was a piece of cake.
@nailahdawkins
@nailahdawkins 10 ай бұрын
It'd be perfect _if_ actual time periods showed as well, i.e., 1950s, 1640s. It's cool. When you have different ethnic backgrounds on a DNA chromosome, the relatives intermixed with each other. For example, I have mixed on most of my chromosomes. On chromosome 8, I have Cameron, Congo Western Bantu Peoples, England/Northwestern Europe, and Nigeria (upper chromosome); Benin & Togo, Sweden, and Cameroon, Congo & Western Bantu Peoples (lower chromosome.) On chromosome 4 (lower) is Sweden and Ivory Coast & Ghana present. So ancestors from each country procreated at some point on each respective chromosome. Given the slavery history of Sweden in Ghana (in particular) it makes sense, why my chromosome looks like that! I am looking more into how and where the intersections occur and why.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics 10 ай бұрын
Do you think it's strange that I find mixed DNA more fascinating than DNA from a single group? The mixture tells a more intriguing story, doesn't it? Sorry for the tangent. But, time periods are harder to predict genetically. When I tried to discuss the average time between generations, those on the 'outer ranges' complained that I didn't account for those. However, that's the nature of averages. Does that make sense? The point is, that it's difficult to pinpoint when the intermixing happened on a timeline. So, while I like your idea, I'm not sure if it's possible to do reliably.
@alayadeluce
@alayadeluce Жыл бұрын
I have Scottish taking up the whole of one of the chromosomes in number 1 (and also 8). They state the longer the segment, the more recent the ancestry but I don't know of any recent ancestors from Scotland. I know that Scottish can come from either my Irish or English side, but I figured it was from more than 8 generations ago. My Scottish was 6% (estimate 0 - 13%).
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Yep. I'm going to vote no on that longer the length the more recent the ethnicity. Did you see my Norwegian ancestry? I do have some Scandinavian ancestors but it's at least from my 4th great-grandparents.
@tomask1436
@tomask1436 Жыл бұрын
From my observation, it seems that when only some small e.g. Scottish segment is detected on the chromosome then the painter stretches this ethnicity over the whole chromosome.
@karendebruyne9592
@karendebruyne9592 Жыл бұрын
Because I have had my mum tested, ancestry has labelled my parents! Recent update
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I have had my parents and my paternal grandparents. Ancestry didn't label things correctly, which is what I pointed out in the video. I'm not the only one. But I'm glad they figured out yours.
@aaronjennings8385
@aaronjennings8385 Жыл бұрын
I'm having similar issues. I thought it was just me. To make things more interesting, there are grayed out segments. I have no idea why.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Glad I could explain some of the problems.
@thisuserdoenotexist
@thisuserdoenotexist 11 ай бұрын
Same
@Rambo2point0
@Rambo2point0 Жыл бұрын
As a product of a mixed ethnicity Marriage, it was pretty easy to find stuff from either side. Not sure what the lines have to do with anything
@Rambo2point0
@Rambo2point0 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the descending increase in numbers/ decrease in the size of the colored bars that is.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
The bars represent your 22 chromosome pairs.
@Rambo2point0
@Rambo2point0 Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics thank you
@agrotta1650
@agrotta1650 Жыл бұрын
I know which one is which, because I know where 1 pair of my great great grandparents came from, that is a very distinct part of Europe. Southern Italy.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Then you're fortunate. For most test takers, the results aren't very clear.
@agrotta1650
@agrotta1650 Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Yeah. I'm thankful I don't have that much of an issue. I hope it can be cleared up eventually.
@CitizenTurtleIsland
@CitizenTurtleIsland Жыл бұрын
Only Ancestry gives me" Norwegian" ethnicity (probably Frisians are involved; I have several fully Frisian maternal 2x great grandparents and back). It's the same situation as what you observed... big chunks - including almost one full "side" of ch. 1. However, Ancestry does sort by ethnicity via parent for me... parents who were both born in Germany (deceased for some years). I don't have close matches at Ancestry and all my matches at that site are "unassigned", as in not labeled by me, as maternal or note. How did they do that? Baltic and Norwegian are pegged as maternal, which would be as expected. Eastern European for both... also very plausible for another "minority" ethnicity in my background. They label a chunk of ch 13 as unassigned. This appears as Ashkenazi at 23andMe. But again... my best guess is that would be paternal too, as they have it.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Ancestry is making guesses about your ethnicity and where it appears on your chromosomes. As I said in the video, I think it's not as good as the 23andMe painter which was developed a good 10 years ago. Again, with the splitting of DNA matches into maternal and paternal, Ancestry is getting some right, some wrong, and some fall into the area of indeterminate. Without a chromosome browser to see the specific segments where the DNA matching occurs, I do not trust the recommendations. (I don't trust much that I can not validate, so It's not an Anti-Ancestry thing.) So... I do not spend too much time on the ethnicity side of DNA, I recommend people focus on the tree building. If you do not have many close DNA matches (particularly since DNA testing is underrepresented for the areas you're researching), then I would advise you to build a records based family tree and then encourage as many people with German and Norwegian heritage to test. With increased participation in testing, perhaps you'll have the answers you seek.
@jordan9941
@jordan9941 Жыл бұрын
I don’t care a whole lot about a Chromosome painter for ethnicity makeups. I care a lot more about a chromosome browser for DNA matches showing where you share DNA and comparing it to multiple matches like MyHeritageDNA does. Ancestry has the largest database so that’s why I’d like to have it but too bad it’ll probably never happen.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Sadly, I don't think it will every happen, otherwise it would have happened by now.
@cooperjdcox49
@cooperjdcox49 Жыл бұрын
This is an Ethnicity painter!
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
That is correct.
@tweerden
@tweerden 8 ай бұрын
Thank you. I have some remarks to make. ‘It didn’t take a long time to separate the different groups in Africa’ you say. That is the wrong way around: They were separated from the start. Because of geographical boundaries a the huge distances they didn’t mix. -in Africa, when mixed it is done in the America’s and later in Europe. Nr2; as being from Europe, I have to make clear that you can’t mix up countries and just combine DNA groups. You group Scandinavia, UK, Germany, France, etc. There is a distinct difference between Scandinavia and the rest of Europe. But… because of migration you can find Scandinavian DNA (strangely enough often referred to as Viking DNA in the US) thoughout the northern part of Europe. This includes, of course Scandinavia -Norway, Sweden and Denmark -NOT Finland- but also the northern parts of -right to left- Poland, Germany, The Netherlands, and ENGLAND. Of course the former parts of Scandinavian countries are included; Iceland and Greenland. - German DNA has also migrated; Anglo-SAXONS have English and Saxon (German) DNA. And certainly in the northern part of The Netherlands. - France has in DNA and in language, culture a Roman origin. Belgium and the southern part of The Netherlands (3 provinces) have a mix of the three above from origin.
@rebeccas5024
@rebeccas5024 Жыл бұрын
Why isn't this available to me on my DNA page?
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I do not know. Several Ancestry customers have said they don't have this yet. I am not employed by them. I only review their products and make suggestions on what services to use.
@rebeccas5024
@rebeccas5024 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for replying. I will wait. I appreciate your videos because your explanations are so detailed.
@aperez4198
@aperez4198 2 ай бұрын
You said the tool is OK but it’s actually horrible. Customers should sue for false advertisement.
@carolync3163
@carolync3163 Жыл бұрын
On my ancestry I have 5 that are split. Not sure if it’s because it’s in beta
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure it is because it is Beta.
@carolync3163
@carolync3163 Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I’m also not sure what to do with this information. Like what do I get out of chromosome #5 being British?
@derlingerardclair6252
@derlingerardclair6252 Жыл бұрын
Maybe in some cases,especially when the person may be an orphan,or perhaps hardfly knows anything about one of their parents.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
May I invite you to watch this video? I believe the Chromosome Painter has some flaws that would harm the research you are identifying.
@suzannemcclendon
@suzannemcclendon Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics I agree. In my case, I only have one side of one chromosome showing more than one color(it has two). All of the other chromosomes, each side has one solid color all the way across. Maybe it is correct, maybe it isn't, but it sure seems weird to me. I have several split chromosomes on 23andMe.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
@@suzannemcclendon The only thing we can do is point things out, make notes, and build our family trees.
@suzannemcclendon
@suzannemcclendon Жыл бұрын
@@FamilyHistoryFanatics Build and document them along the way and hope not to run into too many people with the same name in the same area (one can hope!). Ethnicity has never been a concern of mine, at least not until something unexpected showed up. It still isn't, really. But, it is part of the whole DNA bit, so hopefully I can get that figured out, too.
@quiltingtangent459
@quiltingtangent459 Жыл бұрын
They need to clean it up. Some results flip flop between Parent 1 and parent 2. 1st run they where one way, 2nd run they flipped some of the chromosomes not all of them. They also changed locations place in Africa to Germany.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
If they could, I think they would.
@honeyjazz4147
@honeyjazz4147 Жыл бұрын
I agree they flipped mine totally around from parent 2 to parent 1.
@nickmiller76
@nickmiller76 Жыл бұрын
I've not found it to be of any use.
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Neither have I
@KayRudolphFL
@KayRudolphFL 8 ай бұрын
I'm confused! Your mother's and your father's chromosome paints look identical to each other -- I can't see any difference between the screen you identify as your mother and the screen you identify as your father. Is this right?
@leodhasmacleod617
@leodhasmacleod617 Жыл бұрын
One of the problems with Ancestry is that it is near impossible to isolate from groups that come from let's say an island in Scotland..where everyone on that island is genetically link with everyone without mainland Scotland influence. Struggling with a paternal grandfather who bio dad is unknown, but his adopted father was from the same island, and his mother comes from that island. And the bio dad is another islander. On ancestry match list, even compared to a half first cousin is impossible as they share the same cousins from that island. If I match with a person at 160cm but have no clue how the other person matches. Unlike 23andme which is by far more helpful. But ancestey holds my top 5 unknown matches. Side note: we match with people that are proven to be on the adopted father side of the family. I consider myself a pro but ancestey has limited me to constant message people which isn't working really. Anyway, with these gimmick tools is hardly worth more than a 5 min video. Enjoy your videos. Thanks
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the time you spent watching the video and then sharing your feedback. I do wish people would focus more on DNA matching and tree building than ethnicity results.
@Shortstuff9
@Shortstuff9 Жыл бұрын
Ya know we have 23 sets for a total of 46 and not 22..
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
The 23rd has a different use in autosomal genealogy research.
@OldSchool-dr5ql
@OldSchool-dr5ql 7 ай бұрын
It's probably me but I never can understand this guy.
@minihooperprod.8332
@minihooperprod.8332 Жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ is king 👑 amen 🙏 😊
@FamilyHistoryFanatics
@FamilyHistoryFanatics Жыл бұрын
Off topic, but you do you.
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