nah, the would give it to china because if given the option china would claim singapore

btw Hunter f6 is 10.0 but has worse missiles and it doesnt even get flares

@@anotheralpharius2056 Nah, China has the A-5C

Japan honestly could use it, their first aircraft with countermeasures is the F-4EJ at 11.0

I mean, Singapore is part of the commonwealth so it's not unreasonable to add it to the british tt

*Swiss bias

IRISH BIAS

​@@smokeyjon2000 based

Unbritished.

Don't think that British Bias has ever been a thing tbh

yep. Man was playing 4D chess. Would have been cool if it actually worked

*Jets

For real, the F.1 and the J34 should go to 8.7. They're just sidegrade Scimitars at this point. And there's an argument to be made that this should be 9.7, no way it deserves the same BR as the FGA.9, though that thing might be semi-decent at 9.0, then this can stay at 9.3.

​@@K0MMyHuCT As a teaboo and subscriber to the idea of 'suffering in an uptier isn't an excuse to stomp in a downtier' it shouldn't go to 8.7 There's *nothing* an 8.x aircraft can do against a Hunter F.1

@@lukeskylicker Well, that's compression in a nutshell, because there is *nothing* a hunter f1 can do vs a 9.7/10.0.

Hunter F1 isn't useless. If you maintain speed at mach 0.9 and resort to vulture play you can get kills with it even in uptiers, especially now there are less small maps. It's borderline impossible to kill in a downtier if flown correctly and conserving speed. And you're far more likely to get a downtier at 9.0 than at 9.3, because 9.3 puts you in the F5C/A-10 uptier blackhole The only thing that makes the Hunter F1 particularly difficult to play right now in an uptier is Gaijinn's choice to put more Supersonics with less major downsides at 9.3 and keep 30g missiles in the 9.0-10.0 bracket Lots of people make silly comparisons with the Swift and Scimitar but forget that the Swift compresses like dogshit at high speeds, struggles to stay at Mach 0.9 without afterburner and has far worse energy retention while the Scimitar has absolutely terrible guns-on ability at high speed

​@@outrageoussharpie4107 You can definitely make more of an argument the Swift is more of a side grade to the Hunter (though the exchange in strengths puts the Hunter on top). The Scimitar, however, makes the Swift look like it's incompressible and I dare anyone to fly it like you would a Hunter and get kills.

It will get br change most definitely....I presume would be 9.7 or 10.0

@@Daiman01 The F.58 just moved down yesterday from 9.7 to 9.3

@@eurofalke6804 Yes, and when people unlock this thing after they gain enough squadron RP, it will go up in BR almost immediately. Gaijin are doing their usual thing with releasing something under tiered but it's behind a paywall. making people buy it, wait a few weeks and then up tier it after they get their money.

I'm sure you're right at least that's what I was figuring and tbh it was just fine at 9.7 and still wouldn't be upset to see it at 10.0

Su17m2 and su17m4 were in the same BR for almost a year😂

Well now we have r60ms at 9.7.

@@jonwinfield9193 SU-25s seriously belong at 10.7 how they're below the A-10s which are both artificially nerfed and far worse aircraft is a mystery. (its not its just bias)

You don’t go 8.7 at 9.3 really

My god I thought I was just a shit shot the last 10 or so games, been playing the 7.3 and had it constantly. Not much better playing AA where it's pretty much the same

tak, jesté dobre

​@IBZ when other countries can into space

The only difference is guided bombs tbh

me 262 a1u1 is ass cheeks

Why fire it from range if youre catching them and have a way higher chance of hitting

@@DEFYN you do you man, I just found it odd :p I just find long range kills so satisfying.

I just want my damn Ground Radar, that's it

It turns even worse then the ones we already have XD

@@r.u.s.e3586 yea but I think everyone knew that it would be a bus it was never a good turn or dogfighter but i don't think I expected it to be worse at bvr than the f-16 f-14 and mig 29 i thought it would be atleast better than 1 but it is not

@@andrewdiresta8416 Why wouldn't it? Air to Air was secondary to the ground attack role. I don't think it ever beat out any of those planes even IRL (not that it matters in WT)

@@r.u.s.e3586 yes but people were hyping it up and it came to the game and it sucks so much lmao. overhyped airframe.

@@andrewdiresta8416 I didn't realize people were hyping it lol

is the radar good for anything ?

nope but you don't have radar missiles anyways, just turn it off@@IvanTre

Yet the AV-8's cant

@@fire_drake12.arc.24 the AV-8s have flares what the Yak38s don't have

France: 💀

This update is quite the joke for Britain, this hunter fiasco how is it 9.3??, APDS "buffs" (apparently more of a nerf from my understanding), And ohh the 3rd worst ship as a 6k premium... (The Type 12 is a terrible ship in game mmm 3km blindspot directly forward).

Well, for a time Britain got the first APS for Black Knight, and their Jaguar with guided bombs and thermal pods, same with the Harrier were once the meta in ground RB.

@@johanapolinarioveliz6754 Have you ever flown CAS above 9.0? Dont hit me with the useless shit lmao. Jag is an aircraft from the 70s flying against air defences from 2015.

@@johanapolinarioveliz6754 and now the challenger 2E Although not the most meta vehicle, it's a really good upgrade to the already existing challies

"New F-4S" you mean the F-4J with incredibly minor differences when it comes to the game?

​@@evangalinsky2499 "incredibly minor" I wouldn't call agile eagle a minor change

@@desertfalcon1539 it's still a phantom, it's still very shit, agile eagle or not I did forget it had that but really doesn't change much at all.

​@@evangalinsky2499 agile eagle is the sole reason why the F4E is still good even after so much meta change. It can turnfight a MIG-21 and win. F4S is literally pay to win. It is a direct upgrade over the F-4J because it gets all the upsidrs of the F-4J plus it can turn.

@@evangalinsky2499 trust me, having that agile gives it a real chance in 1v1s

But not in the german tree

Bc. Switzerland even used them more than the brits

@@christof1192 The swiss version should be in the British tree as well. Just like the Rhodesian Hunter and the Saudi Lightning are in the tree. There are no links to Germany with this craft

@@christof1192 it's literally a hunter f6. But for some reason it's German now

@@TheTfrules yeah And shouldnt there be a kfir varient in the British tree considering the kfir is basically an Isreali Atlas cheetah

@@TheTfrules The only reason this is prob in the german tech tree is most likely due to how the Swiss sub-tree is coming and its gonna go to germany

its there as a CAS option to fill the gap which otherwise would remain empty

@@wapniak666 So the MiG-23BN and MI-24P just don't exist now?

@@StalledAgate832 mi24 is a heli so irrelevant and 23BN is kinda garbage weapons wise (also no flares or missiles) this gets mavericks, maybe only 2 but that's makes it the best CAS option until tornado/F4F which are top tier also, im 95% sure that germany will get swiss sub tree in the future for their tanks

@@wapniak666 A heli is still CAS. It's also just as expensive as the MiG and Hunter would be, but with more and better weapons.

@@StalledAgate832 we are clearly talking about fixed wing aircrafts That's what everyone understands under CAS name in war thunder Helis are also an insane grind so while technically a "free" tech tree variant is available compared to a normal aircraft a not a lot people are going to own it Regardless, aircrafts are aircrafts so whatever is in heli tree is irrelevant

For once... Good one

Still a hangover from the days the SRAAM Harrier shredded entire lobbies, I suppose.

Not much its not premium The games here were i think about 60k sl and thats a 6 and 5kill win

Do you have a brain?

Mig 15 is at 8.3 and bis is at 8.7 not 9.3

@@skolaskellofkells6195 I fly China mostly and the shenyang F5 is the one I’m referencing also is at 9.3

​@@thatoneguy1741 That's an upgraded mig 17

@@plantenthusiast3052 Really a 17? I’ve been under the impression for the longest time it was a better mig 15💀 whoops, but honestly i still think this thing should be 9.7 at the lowest, maybe 10.0

It is

@@DEFYN Thanks man. Short question, I asked this on reddit, but due to its BR of 11.0, is it me who is terrible with it or is the Mig21 bis (german techtree) just powercrept into oblivion?

Yeah the new maps make it even worse on top of that as well :/

@@DEFYN I guessed as much. no BVR capability really hurts it. Well, that was insightful. Thanks for that and have a good evening.

0.7

It's Swiss man

@@italo195 and its in the German tech tree

@@chunkblaster I... I know, but this variant was flown by the Swiss, and that red and white camo is Swiss too

@@italo195 and yet it remains in the German tech tree, my point was the *German tech tree* in the video game *war thunder* by gaijin entertainment has a disproportionately high amount of aesthetically pleasing aircraft skins, including this one OKAY?

Might do

So? The A-10 has 6 mavericks and 2 aim9l and its still 10.0

Tell me you don't know shit about the state of german aviation tree without telling me

Because Switzerland has a big German speaking population but Imo it should have been in either the Italian or the French TT

please dont make him play that thing 😪

@@briarrandolph307 but it actually has a missile set and a lot of flares, its got to be at least better than the GR.1

​@@lukigensfm the wing....the wing rip easily...... The plane wobble which frustrated Defyn the most...

That doesn't narrow it down very much, there are lots of American aircraft with varied abilities. Which plane are you talking about?

@@TheTfrules F4U4’s, P47/P51D’s, P38’s

@@HeyBigChriss like someone’s said yak 3 rips at like 660 kph, us planes mostly out dive and out speed them. Also most US engines have much more power above 5km

@@2552legoboy yeah but no one fights above 5km anymore. Everyone just stays low where it’s virtually impossible to beat a Yak 3, and then your left alone vs 4-6 other players. So what do you do? Stay high, and ~hope~ they come for you while they either farm ground targets for tickets/XP, or do you dive and try to take on 4+ enemies at once? I say a bigger problem is the teams not using US aircraft to their strengths.

Just gain separation via diving or just straight line speed and lure them to team mates. If there are none, then push head ons. Dogfighting them is impossible so ur best bet is just head ons unfortunately. Bringing them up high, like 5km would be viable if the matches were longer but they aren't so that's just a waste of time if ur not already fighting at such an altitude.