Just a thought. but I enjoyed the old videos where they got a budget and we followed them around as they picked up their gear and the thoughts behind it more.

I love how you could see Ben die a little inside when John said "this has a gate". 🤣

I love the captain and Pete but dear lord this is brilliant, love the banter!

Ben = Better lead tone John = Better rhythm tone

Ben's 100%, maybe it's just how it was recorded but his sound has so much more body to it

Perfect choice of jam riff - gotta love when Diamond Head gets used, real metalheads right there and great rigs for the price!

The EQ pedal and noise gate are a must in any budget metal rig. They literally mask almost any downside

It’s funny, I went through this recently. I tried the pedals thing but couldn’t make the sound I wanted. So I scrapped the pedals, got a mkii 2x12 100w katana and presets have got every sound I could ever need, and gave me what I wanted

I don't normally like John and Ben's content but together they are brilliant. More of these two please.

Good to see some actual metal content. More plz :)

We all won with that contest, as an Anderton's metal vid is always a winner. Tbh there were bits from both rigs i loved... I use a micro dark myself so amp-wise I'm team Ben, loved his delay as well, but John's dinky and phaser were great. We want more of this stuff please Lee, and get some doom content too!

That string snap (& reaction) was perfect! :)

To my ears, the Orange wins this one but it had a lot of help from the delay. I thought the EQ actually made it sound worse but overall, I liked it more. I might have gone with something a bit cheaper than the 5150 and added a few more effects. Also, this was good.

Ben was very ready for this haha. Great value in his rig.

D I G I T A L J O N 🤖

I like the 1x12 and mini head setup, there's lots of great mini heads these days you could use and have a range of tones and lot of gear in a small space.

These guys killed it!! Awesome video!! Hope to see this duo again!

Thr listener won this contest! Great content guys and as mentioned, amazing banter.

more of this please, don't get to hear a good ole Jackson wide freakin open every day.

So thought Jon would stomp this and really thought I wanted that 5150 amp myself. Surprised how bens rig cut through. Ben for me🎉

John with a Tiffany Rolex OP in a metal budget rig video is a vibe

Entertaining video. Both sound like death. Mission accomplished.

lets talk about the chemistry and their banter. made my day.

5150 Iconic with a boost is all you need. The built in boost is such an important one too.

Love It! The Metal the Battle the Rattle! Soundwise both are fine.I think rhythm wins over lead both times. Also Love the 4 Guys 1 Riff Thing. Bang on

Do I get extra points for farting with my hands like that?

I’m actually really surprised how much £1000 buys for this genre, both rigs were decent!

Ben won tone

Ben because I have a micro dark and I'm biased

The “DIGITAL JOHN” introduction gets me every time hahahahaha

Wild Stallions!

looks like me and the captain started a cool trend of playing am i evil haha :D

Great video...need more of these. I prefer Ben's rig but love DJ's playing. BTW, I need more SOUNDS LIKE

I've had the Orange Micro Dark myself for years. He sounds incredible for his size, and it's really loud! But now it has become my live backup for the VX Kraken for half a year.😝

Oz should have been part of this

The orange sounds so much better honestly. It's not even close

I have an Orange Microdark, and a Jackson guitar. does that mean I win?

My cheapest metal rig for 1000 (insert your currency here) would be this: Guitar: Ibanez RGA42FM or Ibanez RG421PB (both around 400 EUR) or if you don't need tuner pedal: FGN Boundary Odyssey (549 EUR which is a steal for a japanese guitar!) Pedals and Amp (=493 EUR): TC Electronic PolyTune 3 (good buffer and tuner) Tone City Kaffir Lime (great to control bass/treble) Mooer Micro PreAMP 005 (for really heavy stuff) or Mooer Micro PreAMP 012 (if you like boosted brown sounds) Mooer Baby Bomb 30 W (plenty loud to play with a drummer) Harley Benton G112 Celestion V30 (sorry but this is the cheapest way to get a decent V30 cab) This goes on a really small pedalboard and is the ultimate lightweight rig.

Ben dover. John wins.

I'd choose a different guitar for sure.

Beardy wins!! Although could of turned off the ts for the rhythm to help John out

Love how they make fun of eachother! made me laugh

With a Blackstar HT model you wouldn’t even need pedals and have a killer metal tone

Nice video 💯.... However I would personally like to see a video where we take the amp out of it... & Use a Multi Effects Pedal with Pedal Sims 🎤 mic Sims Amp cab Sim's And Speaker Sims Although I believe adding a pedal is good... Than the Guitar 🎸. IMO SPEAKERS are More important than the guitar. However The most important thing is the PLAYER... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶

John wins rhythm and riffs, Bens wins lead/ melodic runs. Both will compliment eachother in a mix almost perfectly. Last thing you want is rhythm with a lot of delay or reverb. Bens will not chug nicely, and the lack of delay on Johns is a no go for a lead/solo

I reckon we win for getting to listen to that. The rigs complement each other really well to me. I don't prefer one over the other, they do slightly different things and work well together.

Joyo Jackman II (Or the Dual Rec clone they do) 112 V30 cab subzero/hardly bentone Tone city TS clone Whatever other tone city pedals you want as well Epiphone Explorer, V, SG or Paul Sinple as

Both rigs sounded awesome so it's really hard to choose, but if I did had to pick then I would probably say John's tone with that phaser just bumped it over the top for me. Absolutely brilliant

Under a thousand? You can do this under 500$ and sound spectacular! Will it have tubes? If You look used and very hard. The sound of Chinese manufactured pedals, preamps,speakers, power amps and guitars is absolutely stellar these days. For under a hundred You could have a set up floor and tour rig. If You can watch a video about intonation (really easy) You can have an Amazing Metal Guitar that no one would know how cheap You were cause You sound so awesome! Don’t get Me wrong I used to have to Have a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier, matching Oversized 4/12,Boutique tube screamers and the like, a Gibson Sg Standard and PRS S2 standard 24 satin for back up and I understand marketing and the consumer base, and the need to feel “professional”, it just isn’t worth it to Me these days because I can emulate it to a blindfolded challenge debate and debacle. Been doing this along time and In this case I would mix match these two rigs and have 600 ish left to spend! Well 400 with cab. Awesome even though I would totally not pick any of these choices. (Maybe the Jackson but different color) yep I’m bored but 100 percent being factual!

john wins great vid boys,

bring back the part which they choose the gear pleaseee. that was the most fun part!!

I enjoyed the sound of the Orange rig a little more. Probably due to the V30 loaded birch ply cab. My ears are so used and that sound and it just works.

L’Orange. God Orange is so damn good.

Ben’s rig rocked 🤘🏻🤘🏻

Ben I think sounded a bit rounder and the delay just did it for me. Brilliant video.

Used to gig with a micro dark literally for years. That said, I preferred the 5150 for rhythm and Ben’s Micro Dark rig for leads

These two should do more vids together - the banter is great 🙂 But what we really need to see is Nathan & Lee back doing bass stuff. Where's all the good bass stuff?

Servitude by Sylosis. I heard you!

Looking for a begginers rig i would probably go Hotone Ampero II, its decent enough to keep you entertained and its conveniet. Everything else is going straight into guitar. I fould either get an FRFR monitor later or experiment with real amps, but if i am on a budget and i am fresh to guitar world (basically these two together are almost always the case) a reasonably priced modeller plus a decent guitar is the go for me.

Well they sound best together to be fair , that orange rig is perfect for rhythm and the Evh was perfect for lead , Ben’s rig sounded thick and juicy in the mids what carry’s the heft of the sound and John’s is spikey and sort of thin sounding with a very high register fizzyness that cuts trough the mix like a battle axe .

Great challenge, both good choices of gear. Ben wins for me, that dark terror is so good.

More from these lads!!

I was expecting this to be close, but John totaly owns this for me. That raspy agressive in your face sound but with great string separation, just wins.Bens sounds too squished to my ears.

Sorry, Digital John - you've been beat. Ben's rig completely cuts through.

Ben, and the V, for the win! Plus, it's the only way John still gets a decent pint.

Ok so just for the metal look of that V... i would pick the 5150, the Jackson V and the mini TS. And call it a day. Bring on the groupies.

I prefer John’s guitar and amp; its a great start but delay, plate reverb would widen the gap over Ben’s rig for my metal rig preference.

Not even a debate; John's rig sounds more metal. 5150 will always be the standard. Also, came into this video thinking "none of these guys are going to know shit about metal," but I was pleasantly surprised.

Great video! Played totally in the spirit of gearheads everywhere ("mine's bigger than yours"). 🤣

For the purposes of the video. The guy on the right's rig sounded better. But I have owned that Orange setup before - without the EQ pedal - and I was not happy with it. I question wether there is any chance you could hear it over a drum kit either. And the 5150 sounds way better in person. But whatever. I havn't watched one of these in years, back when Rabea was doing them. This was entertaining and fun

Great vid….I’m totally not a metal guy but Ben and John are very watchable

That Orange rig utterly dominated.

Orange cut’s through? LoL, he must be mad🤷‍♂️🎸😆

found it interesting that without the eq on the orange amp it really sounded better, but with the lead tone the eq was really necessary

Out of all the stuff I like the 5150 the most

I bought a Js-227 and the quality blew me away. Maybe I got lucky but when I tested out LTD schecter etc. nothing was close. It's better than most of my other guitars that cost 4x.

5150 amp with the Flying-V and effects is the direction I would go.

Yeah anything with orange instantly wins for me, i think an old Marshall JMP might overtake orange but in this case orange wins hard. I think its that raw organic sound orange has, its exactly like those old Marshalls cranked hard

Would be happy with either of these rigs tbh but maybe Ben’s cuts through just a teensy bit more?

The orange rig sounded way better, 5150 just sounded weird, might be a speaker thing

Orange for the win...sorry John.

Funny - I can almost replicate Ben's winning rig with things lying on my "spares shelf" including a King V JS32 (EMG upgraded) and a criminally under-used Micro Dark. I foresee a mini rig-build coming up ....

Orange rig for the win!

I'm more into Doom / Stoner metal. So I'd get an Epiphone SG Standard. In Alpine White. And a Marshall DSL20 combo amp. For pedals, a Electro-Harmonix Nano Metal Muff, because it has EQ and a gate too. And a TC Magus Pro, because it does the heavy Fat Rat sound, and the gnarly Turbo Rat sound. Fuzz & Rat together would get me toward that Sunn O))) Life Pedal sound. Can play the octaves by hand :)

Minus points for talking smack.

John's sounds better on its own but can't be heard when played with Ben due to his pronounced mid range. It could be an issue with the EVH in the mix but maybe through a tube screamer in and that might fix it.

Finally youtube gets to see good metal and it is not jus sweep picking and super down tuned chuggs

First off, you two need to make more videos together; as for the rigs, they both sound great but I've gotta go with the Dinky and the 5150.

John won that one 🤘

Digital John, both players were great.

I have a Micro Dark and a Dark Terror. I don't find they NEED an EQ pedal if you know how to use the tone knob. You can easily get a balanced but mid-heavy tone.

"If there was a single day I could live....." 17:06

Metal is supposed to sound big and loud and powerful and you cannot get that from a little 3 inch orange amp that makes it sound like it's in a bird house.

I was expecting John to use a Valeton multi effects pedal and a clean amp/cab.

Floyd rose special/cheap license floyd- stay in tune, choose one.

Here would be my picks (Current Prices in USD from Sweetwater): 1. POD GO: $375 + $20 (You can by AMAZING IRs and Presets for like $20 and really transform this), personal fav: Fremen Presets 2. Boss Katana MKII: $229 (Only interested in MKII since they have POWER AMP IN - so directly acts as a CAB for POD GO, can also be used as AMP if needed) Both 1 and 2 total 624 USD 3. Now you have $376 for a guitar, so depending on what you play, you can try couple of these. However, you may need a lil more for a decent guitar 3.a. Jackson Dinky Arch Top JS32 - new one for $399 - Amazing fret work and great pickups for the price. Comes with A Floyd Trem system - not the best but pretty stable. 3.b. If you shell a little more for a Schecter Omen 6 - that would be the best choice but will put you 50-100 USD above the budget.

The guy with the Jackson guitar has the better rig.

I prefer the dinky with the Orange 🍊👍

voting for Jon's rig

They could have used a katana 50 mk2 and saved a ton of money for better guitar/pedals. I vaguely remember them having Rebea on and he used it to emulate like Trivium or someone