What's better?! A £300 Pedalboard or £300 Multi FX!?

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What's better?! A £300 Pedalboard or £300 Multi FX!?

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» 0:00 Welcome Back!
» 0:39 What We Are Doing!
» 1:20 About the ME-90
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» 4:20 Delay
» 6:40 Modulation?
» 8:50 Tuner
» 10:03 Overdrive & Distortion
» 14:43 Compressor
» 15:23 The Boards!
» 16:10 The Cost?
» 16:41 Comparing Tuners
» 17:24 Comparing Compressors
» 18:30 Comparing Overdrives
» 20:04 Multiple Overdrives?
» 22:01 Comparing Modulation
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» 28:58 Testing Preamp & OD in ME-90
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@DollarAndAPint 9 ай бұрын

They should be using the same guitars. When Pete says that he prefers the Overdrive on the pedal, how can he/you tell? The Humbuckers sound dramatically different than the single coils. I like my ME90 a lot, and would really have loved to see this one with the only difference being the pedals themselves, same guitars, same amps.

@sammydodgers121 9 ай бұрын

agree

@carlossanchez-ho5ct 9 ай бұрын

Agree, I just got the me90 and I love it

@duanekauffman1818 9 ай бұрын

Was my thoughts as well

@steveme3192 8 ай бұрын

Agree

@AD-kv9kj 8 ай бұрын

Exactly, what were they playing at using two completely different styles of guitar and pickup to compare anything with? I was assuming at the start that they'd be swapping guitars to hear both rigs through the different kinds of pup, but they just didn't. Very odd.

@jar5173 9 ай бұрын

You guys should do this using the same guitar when you're making a sound comparison.

@SlyRyFry 9 ай бұрын

It's really not as big a deal as you're all making it out to be. It's a tele and a LP style guitar. There's a reason why no one's sold more LP's than Jimmy Pages telecaster. We as guitarists must stop listening with our eyes

@jar5173 9 ай бұрын

Has nothing to do with eyes. A tele single coil and a humbucker sound so different. Putting the same signal through both options seems like a more fair and objective way to judge the sound.

@lescaster2179 9 ай бұрын

@@jar5173 Doing so would help eliminate an obvious and expected difference rather than leaving it to people to try and excuse or dismiss the difference.

@tonepilot 9 ай бұрын

It’s OK, they’re both going through the same well worn tonedesk.

@iambear.6526 9 ай бұрын

What are you on about? They have two different pickup configs @@SlyRyFry

@michaelsnydermusic 8 ай бұрын

What I’ve found in my early days as a pedal guy and now a Helix guy is the biggest difference is in the way we approach them. Having everything at once can cause us to not appreciate and spend the necessary time on an individual pedal. With pedals, we get them as we need them. And when we’re spending money on them we tend to really investigate and appreciate them. With a multi Fx you get it all at once. Every effect feels less important because there’s always a new one to try. With this in mind, I force myself to take time on the helix. I focus on a pedal at a time, research its real life counterpart and experiment with the chain which makes all the difference.

@racerx3065 8 ай бұрын

I really like this explanation, this is exactly how i feel.

@michaelsnydermusic 8 ай бұрын

@@racerx3065 thanks!

@TeleTonemonkey 8 ай бұрын

How many guitarists base this decision on budget? Therefore, the first premis is false?! Regarding programming time and effort, it depends how much time you have on your hands, I guess! Bottom line, is are your are playing multiple genres? I have bought and binned 5 or 6 MFX over the last 20 years, always go back to Wah, tuner, 3 x OD, Boost, delay/reverb … works for me, jazz, Blues, rock whatever.

@michaelsnydermusic 8 ай бұрын

@@TeleTonemonkey it’s not a false premise since it’s based on my own experience. Plus I’d venture a guess that most guitarists do base purchases on their budget. Otherwise, budget gear wouldn’t be a thing. Anyway, I actually do record multiple genres so I need variety. The music under my name is ambient so I need a nice clean sound with plenty of fx to choose from and just as importantly to mess with their order. That’s why I loved stomp boxes. However, these days many multi fx units do this. Hence, my helix purchase. I actually made money by selling my pedals and buying the helix. I had some old and rare EHX pedals that apparently people really wanted on Reverb. I have two other projects where I do Metal and Rock so my amp and cab needs are quite different. To each his own though. My point is just that if you use multi fx units you need to have the same mindset as if you had a more traditional set up when coming up with unique tones and sounds.

@skankhunt2437 8 ай бұрын

thats the exact reason why for me personally i could never buy a multi fx. Ive already have the boss katana software and its cool to have so many pedals to try but on the other hand i need pedals that i can touch and which have actual knobs instead of looking at my pc . Thats just for me tho, mulit fx itself are a really bang for the buck if you dont care about "real" analog pedals

@trokey66 9 ай бұрын

Because of the myriad of pedals out there, as a beginner the choice is daunting. My thought is the ME 90 funnily enough, and using that to identify sounds I like to perhaps develop a separate pedal board in the future.

@seancook2264 2 күн бұрын

In exactly the same place. Great way to access hundreds of effects in one place before then moving on to the real deal with grown up pedals as part of the learning and exportation pedal journey.

@colonelangus3826 9 ай бұрын

As a hobbyist guitar player my favorite part of the hobby is the pedals. The hunting on reverb and various websites for what’s on sale, the tearing apart a board and building a new one just to nail a tone for a song, stacking different gains, etc. I think a multi-fx is great if bang for buck is what you’re after but man I love buying a new stomp box just so I can reconfigure my pedal board.

@ilmisxx2 9 ай бұрын

Now imagine if you spent all that time practicing instead of pedal hunting, alternate you probably could play circles around yourself now

@lw1391 9 ай бұрын

Spot on. Could not agree with the OP more.

@lw1391 9 ай бұрын

@@ilmisxx2it works the other way sometimes as well. Haven't you ever gotten a new pedal or piece of equipment and being inspired to play more because of it? I know that I sure have.

@coolboy-qc4eb 9 ай бұрын

that opinion will change quickly once you get gigs.. lugging around gear is not fun.. for most players now multi effects and plugins are more practical and not exhausting..

@ifugettoheaven 9 ай бұрын

Can't agree more, great guitarists like Kevin Shields and Billy Corgan never use any pedals. They sound great!@@ilmisxx2

@SoManyTopics 9 ай бұрын

Pedals are fun, sound amazing. It's cool to start building pedals as well because you start to understand and appreciate how they work and which pedals work better together, and where in the chain sounds best for yourself. That being said, I received a Fender Mustange GTX 100 for my birthday and have been so surprised at how closely I can match the pedals in the amp to the pedals I have. In the end, the only thing that matters is that you're making music that you're happy with.

@louiswagner443 9 ай бұрын

The moral of the story is Pete can sound fantastic playing anything! Whether he's using fantastically expensive gear, or bottom dollar budget stuff, he always sounds incredible.

@randymccoy2527 9 ай бұрын

Pedals for me. Nice having many things instead of one thing. Don't get me wrong, I've used so many multi effects when I was younger, but now I can afford to have individual gear. Very nice

@matthewlee8917 9 ай бұрын

I def think it’s more personal preference than anything. But I do think everyone would benefit from having a comprehensive multi effects pedal early in their playing as it can really help them discover all the cool things the electric guitar can do. Once you find what you like you can dig into more unique effects that “play” to your style and liking. For me I’m a Helix guy through and through. I’ve got a really nice tube amp and I tried fancy pedals and I just didn’t like twisting the knobs all the time. I play everything from country to metal so to be able to just push a single button and get a whole different genre really works for me.

@DollarAndAPint 9 ай бұрын

I love these guys, watch all of their stuff, and admire them tremendously. Having said that, they had no clue how to use the ME-90. They used about 1% of it's features. Did not know how the chain was setup. Like when Pete said "this is all the gain I can get", are we kidding, just flip the dial to the next Distortion pedal, there are like 12 of them. They did not even use the built in Wah/Volume pedal, and could not afford one for their rig. I would like to see someone who actually knows how to use the ME-90 vs. those pedals. I absolutely am convinced it would blow them out of the water.

@misguidedyouth2006 9 ай бұрын

I agree - they are not using the board to the full potential

@7polseven 9 ай бұрын

Yes, you can also get much more gain by changing the amp mod to a beefier amp like the rectifier. I have ME-70 and the gain available is more than anyone would ever use if you use the right settings.

@leokrissandy5579 9 ай бұрын

maybe you are right but i think i get them too, multieffect with all its feature can be too overwhelming for some, i prefer tinkering individual pedals than the multi

@7polseven 9 ай бұрын

@@leokrissandy5579 That why the boss me range trumps most other mfx units. You have the knobs on each section as if they were individual pedals. So you can treat it as as a five or six pedal pedalboard when you start. Then later you can create your own sounds and store them to patches for songs if you wish like most other mfx units. So if you are used to using pedals the ME-90 is the most intuitive mfx unit to move to.

@KeithMilner 9 ай бұрын

They should have also tested the situation where they needed to change the settings for a new song. With a multifx that is a tap of a foot. With standard pedals, you have to adjust them manually, if you can remember the settings.

@kennymacdonald1993 9 ай бұрын

To be a truly accurate test both guitars should be the same ,either humbuckers or single coils there is too much tonal difference between the LP and Tele

@yanicklajoie6237 8 ай бұрын

Multi effects unit for me. Pedals settings are great for some songs and aren't on others. Then I went to a minimalist set-up. Pitch-dark tuner, Boss Equalizer, a FullTone overdrive with two settings of distortions and a boost direct to the amp.

@jfinester 9 ай бұрын

For me the multi-FX unit wins hands down. I’ve used pedals before-in the early ‘70s I had a few-but since I started back in the days when the only effects you had were the tremolo and reverb in your amp, assuming you could afford one that had those, I’ve always needed very specific tones. Once I get stuff programmed in, my settings stay the same. Since I’m going through an amp, I keep the amp clean and use its tone controls as a master EQ to set it up for the room. I don’t need different settings for each song, as most of the bands I’ve played with don’t play songs in the same order every time. When the bandleader calls a song, I have to be ready with the right sound instantly. So I don’t use a wide variety of patches-I have my clean sound, my edge-of-breakup sound, and my heavier overdrive sound if I need that. The effects I use are tremolo, sometimes chorus, compression and reverb are on all the time, as is the volume pedal. I do a lot of pickup switching on the fly, and I may be the only player around who actually uses the tone control(s) on the guitar! I certainly can’t use a single-pickup guitar-there’s not enough tonal variation. Unless I’m doing a jazz gig!

@flybynight1929 9 ай бұрын

I've owned Roland/Boss multi-effects since they introduced them (I still own the original) and after playing and gigging with many people who had the misfortune of trying to track down which pedal or cable was either faulty or had a dead battery (power supplies saved that) sometimes right in the middle of a gig, I've never regretted my choice. I have mine set up with literally a hundred different pedalboards for every style and option, with groups set up for each and every different guitar I choose to play at any given moment. The sound is always balanced from one to the other, and the effects are always spot on for the guitars and musical situation, even using different amps. Pedals seem to be a never ending chase for the next latest and greatest, and I don't have the time or funds to join the race.

@KeithMilner 9 ай бұрын

I have been the sound guy for several local bands. On a number of occasions I have had to deal with a faulty pedal board or a pedal that is noisy (power supply issues are usually the culprit here). On one gig I did, we had to rewire one of the guitar players boards to remove a modulation pedal that he just bought. It worked at home in his garage but, in the noisy environment of a village hall gig with all the amps, keyboard, pedalboards, PA, and lighting connected to 3 or 4 outlets on the same electrical circuit, plus all the additional RF noise, it wouldn't stop buzzing. I've never seen that issue with a multifx unit.

@risteardohaodha23 9 ай бұрын

As much as i love my ‘real’ pedal board going into my Princeton Reverb, for the the last year I have been using a HX Stomp with two choice modulation pedals (mercury 7 & Starlight) in the fx loop. Not only are there many options available (too many? maybe), the board they are on is small, super portable and my bands two regular sound engineers both regularly mention that they don’t have to tweek my guitar sound as much as the other guitarist who’s going through a mic’d amp, such is the quality of my sound output from the Stomp. Plus if there was a patch lead/power supply issue with either of the modulation pedals, there are perfectly good backup options in the Helix world.

@KeithMilner 9 ай бұрын

@@risteardohaodha23 out of interest, how are you monitoring? In one of the bands I used to frequently do the sound for, they used a miced 100W Marshall which the guitarist also used for monitoring. Dealing with that in small hall and pub gigs was a nightmare: the amp needed to be turned up reasonably loud to get a good signal on the mic and the guitar player would occasionally adjust it for his monitoring preferences during the gig, which then needed adjustments in the mix. Also, the front row.of the audience often complained the amp was too loud. And, of course, feedback was always a problem. He has recently moved over to a Helix setup and sold his amps. Not only is it a lot less to transport, carry, and set up, but the sound mix is easier to get right and generally sounds better. The audience aren't blasted by the amp, and feedback issues are drastically reduced. He started with the Helix monitoring through wedges, but now has IEMs, and his band now has a silent stage setup.

@xcx8646 8 ай бұрын

I agree. For most of us watching this the convenience, instant adaptability and lack of clutter of a multi FX unit beat the last nth in tone but hassle and expense of pedals. If we want to sound better we should practise more.

@timwrigley54 9 ай бұрын

Can you do another video comparing expensive multi-fx vs expensive pedals? Also dial in each setup nicely and do a blind test. Please 🙏

@artg2767 9 ай бұрын

I bought a tc electronics thunderstorm flanger after watching a video on how to use a flanger as a multi effects pedal. By adjusting the settings, you can get chorus and emulate phaser, univibe, vibrato etc. Not gonna exactly replicate, but works well. Saves money and keeps things simple.

@friedrudibega6384 9 ай бұрын

I ❤️ Pedals

@Nik-8it5p 8 ай бұрын

I started off with pedals years ago, I find a multi fx pedal board so more versatile. I think once you find 'your sound' you pretty much dial it in no matter what you get used too. I am all for modelling gear these days. Use what you find fit.👍

@markharwood7573 8 ай бұрын

There are a couple of astonishing multi-FX on the market right now for about £100. You could start with one of those & never feel the need to move on. On the other hand, my small board has 2 units, combined value about £300: MXR Micro Flanger and Strymon Cloudburst plus expression pedal, and I wouldn't swap that for any multi. Developing a substantial board over a long period is an absorbing hobby in itself, especially now that there are videos like this one around.

@brusselssprouts560 9 ай бұрын

Don't forget the send/return feature of the ME-90 where you can bring other pedals in when you need them.....

@vinthomas 9 ай бұрын

I went all in on pedals over the last few years. I liked the sounds I was getting. But recently sold them all and bought the new Fender Tone Master Pro. The ease of use and full suite of pedals makes it such a versatile solution.

@robertgladstein 9 ай бұрын

Me too ..I agree....TMP seems to have everything.

@KahnuevsKrake 8 ай бұрын

When I started playing, my dad lent me an old Line 6 pod to experiment with so I could discover what I wanted out of an amp and effects. Multi FX units are great to experiment with when you're a relative beginner, but I found I didn't use half the functions it was capable of so I then discovered what I actually wanted. For example, the first pedal I ever bought was a Digitech Hardwire Delay, which had loads of different delay settings and bells and whistles at £150. It was a good pedal to try the different functions, but I only ended up using one delay type. Now I've got a TC Electronic Prophet, which is amazing and does exactly what I want for only £40. Simply put, if you know exactly what you want, invest more in decent pedals that you will actually use that would perform the specific functions better.

@Motocoupemusic 9 ай бұрын

I don’t have an amp, I just have an ME-90 into some studio monitors and interface. Sounds awesome, easy to use and has all the sounds I’ll ever need! To get close down the pedal route like the andertons vid I would also need to budget in the amp and cab which I assume is a little bit pricey!!! No contest for me, ME-90 all day. 🎉

@paul38501 9 ай бұрын

Sorry for my ignorance but your set up sounds interesting. How does the interface figure into the chain? I am just a bedroom player and like the idea of the ME-90 just directly through studio monitors. If that works. Thank you.

@SpartanLaserCanon 8 ай бұрын

To my ears, Boss have some of the best original instrument effects pedals.

@nagamata 9 ай бұрын

My old BOSS ME-50 is like the old family van. Loaded with good and bad memories. It’s full of features but less than half function the way you want. Sounds great on specific effects, but you wouldn’t wanna take it too far. It’s so big you can’t find a decent spot for it.

@Mijstrats 9 ай бұрын

Pedals for me. Started 40 years ago with Boss pedals, then went through the multi fx phase ( had the ME-50, ME 70 and the nova system from TC), but have fully come back to Boss pedals. It depends on what you really need. For me I don't a preamp (got a good Marshall amp for that). A Super Overdrive, the CE-2 and a delay pedal got me covered for 95% of the song we play in our coverband. Another important factor for me; I buy most pedals 2nd hand and Boss pedals will keep their value. Different drive flavour? I swap the Super Overdrive for a Blues Driver or a Dyna Drive.

@duncanmcneill7088 8 ай бұрын

I have been on a virtually identical journey through pedals, multi effects and now back to using 4 good sounding pedals - 2 of which I bought 40 years ago. Zero latency, no A to D conversion in the signal path. So much more inspiring to play with.

@goldtop362 9 ай бұрын

I love both pedals and multi-effects. I have a pedalboard that I have been fine tuning for several years, so that what was once Joyo, Danelectro, Biyang etc has slowly morphed into Analogman, Ceriatone, Strymon etc. Alongside those I've had the Boss ME70, ME80 plus others...and now have a Headrush Pedalboard. Like someone pointed out on here, all the time spent researching and buying gear would probably have been better spent on practising. I think my playing is actually getting worse! 😂

@Majik53 8 ай бұрын

Reminds me of a meme I saw yesterday, it was a sign from a band teacher. #1, I'm sorry I was impatient with you; 2, You're very talented; 3. 1 & 2 are lies. 4, Practice.

@shaft9000 7 ай бұрын

Re-tooling can be every bit as critically important as instrumental study. e.g. speakers.... to record yourself and then actually *hear* what the heck you are playing as well as you can, good studio monitors matter more than just about any of your other gear. There's little better time spent than understanding how to get results you want, what ever that entails.

@niclastname 8 ай бұрын

To me it all just comes down to convenience and bang for your buck. MultiFX are always going to be more convenient and more for your money. Pedals will (generally) be a bit more expensive, and less convenient, but you have more options and customization. You're not stuck with any single pedal, you can always pick whatever reverb you want, whatever drive you want, etc. What sounds better is always going to be subjective. Hell, you might get lucky and the effects on a multifx unit happen to be what you like most and you're all set!

@tiagomaia3047 9 ай бұрын

If you're in a band playing originals and you want to create a unique sound and have some consistency in output, individual pedals is the way to go. If you're playing live in a band playing covers, or with a hefty back catalogue with tons of different tones, I definitely think multi-effects is the way. If you're a hobbyist, you need ALL OF THEM.

@adamp8765 9 ай бұрын

just get a pedalboard and then a helix to recreate that pedalboard on for live shows. problem solved.

@caincolesr 6 ай бұрын

The pedals are like having a really good set of TV channels. You sit down, find something good on and enjoy yourself. The multi FX Processor is more like having way too many channels on your TV. You sit down start trying to find something to watch, but before you figure out what to watch you get bored from flipping through the channels and fall asleep.

@KenSpassione 13 күн бұрын

That's my problem. I don't want to waste hours dialing in gear, I want to play. Been doing this 45 years, and I like the hybrid approach to the effects I see here in the ME-90.

@jmaripen 9 ай бұрын

Both. I want both so I can put them on display in the studio and just look at them pretty things. 😆

@randymccoy2527 9 ай бұрын

This. I've thought before I wish I had more arms to use all the pretty things I have around me and such little time to use it all. lol. You get it

@daddio307 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. I have asked for this for a long time, and you're finally coming through. We all appreciate that.

@jasonswitzer1748 9 ай бұрын

I want to see a tuner pedal shootout. No joke. Would be interesting to see. Please compare with clip ones as well. Thanks, guys! Also, you guys are hilarious. You’re playing different guitars, so the pedals will of course sound different. You should have played the same guitar to serve as a control.

@woutlinders8823 9 ай бұрын

If i am not mistaken they already made one but i can 't remember when.

@victorbr234 9 ай бұрын

My beringher tuner sucks

@frankhughes5702 9 ай бұрын

Yes Andertons did a tuner pedal shootout 4 years ago. Just search tuner pedal shootout and you should find it👍

@AndyInTheUK 8 ай бұрын

Love it! Was going to point out that they are using different guitars but everyone seems to have spotted that already. However, it isn't about the sound they make, but the setup and ease of use.

@jkf9167 9 ай бұрын

I have an ME-70. Eventually I got greedy, but what I used to do is run a bunch of analog dirt pedals into the ME-70, and all modulation, delay, etc. was the ME-70. It worked great for me. I like to run wah and phaser and stuff after the dirt. If you like to run some of that stuff before dirt, it could be more complicated.

@picksalot1 9 ай бұрын

The worst thing about Pedals, when I used them, was spending a lot of time dialing in a awesome tone for one song, then losing it for the next song that required a different tone. Because of that, and versatility, variety, low noise, affordability, convenience, reliability, consistency, portability, upgradability, audio/computer interface, Editor, etc., I switched to Modelers ages ago.

@marcemusic88 7 ай бұрын

20:30 On the "me90", if you select a boost on the "fx2", it will automatically be placed at the beginning of the chain, and you can select whether it is a clean, mid or treble boost. You give it a lot of gain and it can be used before an "OD"

@knappster1754 9 ай бұрын

I really want a multifx but everytine i try one i either just use the first half decent sound i find. Or i spend ages trying to dial in the perfect sound, only to hate the sound next time i plug in.

@SpartanLaserCanon 8 ай бұрын

Lot's of cheap pedals don't sound that good to me because they have a sort of lofi sound quality, but my Boss ME-25 multi effects pedal which you could find for a cheap price price for an effects pedal now still sounds good enough for me. I do like some lofi reverbs and delays though. I like to put either a spare instrument/pedal cable or a headphone adapter into the headphone jack which takes the tones from sounding too digital to sounding more realistic. I did have to add a Chorus pedal and Reverb plus Delay pedal to my board to get the specific tones I wanted, but that is not that many pedals. The Boss ME-25 itself isn't that big for a multi effects pedal which is one of the reasons I like it so I have more room on my pedal board. I also attached a power bar with velcro to the side of my pedal board and I can still get it in the bag I have for it. There are so many higher quality cheap options for good tones now like some plugins and some multi effects pedals which sound better to me than many cheaper single guitar pedals. I do like some volume pedals plus the boss eq pedal are both on the cheaper side for pedals. Also, I don't care what an instrument pedal looks like, more how it sounds since most people will not be able to see your pedal board when you play live anyways. I love my small guitar gear setup and I don't think I will be a player with a million pedals like some players. I could still combine some of my pedals and set them up for good Shoegaze tones even. Heck, my Boss ME-25 has a freeze effect setting even.

@Whoosh12345 9 ай бұрын

Multi-Fx and modeling amps are great when it comes to value and dipping your toe in. For some, you can't deny the streamlined equipment, and I think think they certainly have a utility that's hard to argue against. BUT there is something about putting your own board together. Learning all the intricacies of one pedal and incorporating that into your suite of tools. Not trying to put down multi-fx, but I don't think it can beat the user experience of messing with a pedal you really connect with when it comes to the fun factor. Again, this is all highly subjective. You could get a ton of fun out of a multi-fx unit too. But for me, I get more mojo out of individual pedals.

@auldgrey 8 ай бұрын

Thx guys. My fx journey began with a (loop) pedal- it left me more money in the first-electric-guitar kitty. Lacking foresight and patience, further pedals followed when funds permitted: the notion of saving and waiting for multi-fx device never crossed my mind! No regrets!!

@mikewalde143 9 ай бұрын

I don’t think most people would be too unhappy either way. I chose pedals over a MultiFX and now I’m glad I did, as It means I can upgrade relatively inexpensively over time - my budget reverb turned out to be really disappointing so has to go. The option to stack drives is also something I wouldn’t want to do without. Interesting video though.

@sergiunita4257 6 ай бұрын

Whenever I am watching this channel, I feel like Alan Alda is reviewing guitar gear and that's amazing! Thank you, guys. Great job.

@tonysilverhill 9 ай бұрын

I'm a big fan of the show and use both pedals and multi-FX myself, but I don't think the multi-FX has been done justice here. As others have said, it is better to compare if you play the same guitar and amp. It also helps if the person doing it has first studied such a multi-effect. It would be nice to see this comparison again, but one with Pete demonstrating the stompboxes and "Digital"John demonstrating the Boss ME-90. Furthermore, the entertainment was good as always. Cool jam at the end!

@leokrissandy5579 9 ай бұрын

i think there are no better or worse between them, multieffects are handy for those who starts the journey of guitar playing, once you grow as a player and wants to broaden your knowledge or find "your sound" individual effect definitely your best choice

@PorchBass 9 ай бұрын

I have never seen a better case for discrete analogue pedals made. The afford a board had so much more character

@DanAddison 9 ай бұрын

Multieffects is objectively, practically far better for lots of reasons, the no-brainer wise decision (at least for anyone who isn't obscenely wealthy)... but they never feel even 1% as satisfying as pedals to use and curate and think about and look at. What a money spinner these stupid basic little boxes of fun must be for you, lads.

@Kokopellli 9 ай бұрын

Truth

@2003jackb 9 ай бұрын

Not great for playing live. Unless the presets are ordered incredibly well

@GatorMilden 9 ай бұрын

Sound comparison? The Tele completely hosed the Boss Multi from the get go! Brilliant.

@NamelessSmile 9 ай бұрын

@@2003jackbeh? Isn't that the point, you put the presets you need in order then you literally just have to press one button to completely change your sound

@2003jackb 9 ай бұрын

@@NamelessSmile yeah I suppose if it's a fixed set. But I just feel that if you know the pedals well you have more freedom when playing live. Plus if anything changes live you're relying on knowing the number. Each to their own though, I've just found pedals easier

@buddyrye9190 9 ай бұрын

Man, I’ve been waiting on content like this for years! Thank you guys!

@jsgovind 9 ай бұрын

Pedalboard is usually a huge investment. IMHO, buying a reasonably priced multi-fx and exploring the different options in it to find all the effects you like and would want to have is probably the right way for people to start their journey into tones. You could switch to a pedalboard later from here too if you are getting seriously into tone. But buying pedals without a full understanding of the tones you want can lead to regret because you are stuck with what you don't want and it cannot do anything other than the one thing it does. Thanks for the amazing content.

@RJW14 8 ай бұрын

Legit for a beginning guitarist a multi effect unit is the way to go imo, you get a bit of everything so you can start discovering what you want and do not like. Like, even if it's something you'd never consider (like in my chase, chorus, but I'm just lucky I inherited one). Also, flyrigs are a thing and that boss and even more the valeton are rigs in and of themselves.

@ivan_osorio 8 ай бұрын

I'll always be a multi-fx player, if for no other reason then because i'm not particularly proficient at tap-dancing... being able to switch to two entirely distinct sounds with one button is a god-sent. and yes, i know you can have controllers for multiple stomp boxes and achieve the same result... but not nearly at the same price or effort.

@adrianmcgrath1984 9 ай бұрын

Changing some boards around, when grabbing a tuner I switched a first generation of a well respected tuner to a Boss TU-3, it completely brought the whole board to life. The buffer in the Boss tuner is great, I was shocked at how much it changed the character of the board. - also, when you are daisy chaining, you might want to do some math. Digital pedals will suck many times more power than analogue, easily overwhelming most cheap wall wart type transformers.

@JohnShalamskas 9 ай бұрын

Digital pedals can also leak noise onto the power line which will show up when you start cranking up the gain on your overdrive pedals. Square waves are loaded with harmonics.

@Sea_Jay 9 ай бұрын

It's not a question of which is better, the answer is to have it all. Both!

@kunkmiceter 9 ай бұрын

Yep, I have over $3,000 in my pedalboard and still wouldn't mind getting the ME-90. 😅

@DollarAndAPint 9 ай бұрын

Yes! That is like when asked "How many guitars do you need", the answer is "just one more".

@NaturallyYouCoUk 9 ай бұрын

I researched all videos etc and bought the Valleton 200. Playing my Sire 335 which sounds great straight into my little Roland AC33 amp. Setting up the unit was easy and playing the presets were overkill and sounded as what they are, imitation! The real issue was that I lost the quality of my guitar which sounded great on its own. I have now for the same price bought 2 Boss pedals, Boss Blues Driver BD2 & Boss Digital Delay DD8. I now have my beautiful guitar sound with all the effects I need - my amp also has reverb and chorus. I think it depends on your playing ability and your musical ear. Andertons are great, prices are a bit higher but the service is second to none and the videos really help.

@SolidMitchRapp 9 ай бұрын

Keep up the editing. The close up slaps, falling pedals, sudden "woos" from Lee, etc. Makes me laugh, rewind and laugh again. 😂

@eliohfreire 8 ай бұрын

I use pedals for the past 20 years and I dont think a multi effects pedal will ever be as good as the single pedals, but I got a ME80 specifically to play in a band that plays many different music types and it makes my life easier, also the audience will never notice the difference. The only issue with the ME80 are the drives/distortion and I use an overdrive pedal to solve this problem.

@timelmore2 9 ай бұрын

All of this is why the HX Stomp is the best value a guitarist can get. It makes the hybrid board a real thing.

@TraneFrancks 9 ай бұрын

16:12 - Pete says "I can't do any more with pedals than you can." Technically true for any given scene, but you have the 36 presets and 36 user saves plus 97 effects to create a mind-boggling arrangement of scenes available with a few dabs at the footswitches. Now that my POD 2.0 has finally died, I sincerely want an ME-90. The collection of pedals under the desk here will continue to be used, though. 🥰

@whssy 9 ай бұрын

Plethora X5, a fuzz, an overdrive and an expression pedal. Sorted. Generally not been satisfied with the multi-fx units I've had. But the X5 is just like having a box of pedals...

@jjr007 9 ай бұрын

With the me-90 you could also add a overdrive, or what ever.pedal to the chain.

@MrKeefelm 8 ай бұрын

Depends on your needs, if you have a sound and that stays pretty constant and you just augment it with a delay or a mod here and there for certain songs then a core group of analog pedals will do you fine and probably give you a more authentic tone. However if you’re a cover band guitarist and require a wide range of effects and tones which change for every song, multi fx pedals are king because the advantages outweigh any tonal compromise (if there is any🤷‍♂️) I also find as a singer, a single switch press it so convenient

@Civic. 2 ай бұрын

You can buy a £50 multi FX that is better than a £300 pedalboard, a second hand RP360 or RP360XP will beat any £300 pedalboard. The RP360 is worth buying just for the Reverbs but the FX in the RP360 are great in general. IMO they still stand up against most if not all modern modellers especially when you consider the price. You can move any block to any point in the signal chain. They have effects the other modellers don't have as well as having some of the best reverbs you can find. And at the price they sell for you can easily buy two or more to stack effects. The trick when trying one is to ignore factory presets because the presets were created in the too much time period of modellers. Just start on the first preset and delete every block you don't need for your signal chain, don't worry you can easily add them all back. And the thing that surprises me even now is how easy they are to use once you understand the work flow.

@glenproctor1999 9 ай бұрын

Great discussion. One additional thing about your pedalboard is that it's organic. You buy it in instalments and add/improve stuff over time. You can't just buy the reverb module of a multi-effect and add the compressor bit later.

@steved1099 9 ай бұрын

True, but the multi fx companies do release updates. Line 6 released a patch this week for helix with 10 new amps and various new pedals. So they do expand a bit with new effects over time

@2003jackb 9 ай бұрын

I have gone from a multi fx to a pedal board for this reason. For live playing, it's no competition. Plus some are just very pretty haha

@utkarsh1874 9 ай бұрын

@@2003jackb 🤡

@teresaravenshaw5477 9 ай бұрын

Similar to what's been said by @stevedarby1099 Line6 do regular free firmware updates and add so many new things, effects, amps, cabs. So you may get an extra compressor or suchlike later - you just don't particularly get an option. Mind you, when you have over 250 effects, once you've done all the updates for any of the HX family, you're rolling in possibilities. With a physical pedalboard I wouldn't have realistically considered putting 2 comps in my signal chain but on the HX Effects I've got the room to do just that. I haven't got to pick just one delay for the footprint of my board, I can have dozens! And it sounds really good.

@tommedlicott976 9 ай бұрын

I have some pedals, a spark mini and a boss katana 50 so lots of options. Still might get the ME-90 just because of all the options available and can easily tweak with the knobs and I just play and record at home so this would perfect to use and not wake the neighbours.

@ozwalks8185 5 ай бұрын

Wasn’t going to say anything but Pete has a twin brother he obviously hasn’t been told about . Good news is he has a brother and better news we can now get both of them to play the same thing exactly on the same guitar so we can compare pedals and board on same guitar . Another great vid

@Majik53 8 ай бұрын

I have both a 12 spot pedalboard and an ME-90. The ME-90 is just so versatile, not to mention much lighter that the discrete pedalboard that it has become my first grab for a jam or gig.

@alwaysrockn2009 8 ай бұрын

Pedals rock. It’s a small toy of awesomeness and excitement and allows for expansion and versatility. The multi effect boards now a days, in the last 5 years especially, are amazing. For someone who needs portability and can’t use an amp in most applications due to family, using headphones is a must, therefore multi effect units are awesome.

@danieljdtaylor 9 ай бұрын

If you need a reliable, consistent and good sounding guitar tone for regular professional gigging - get a multi fx Otherwise, join the rest of us having fun with countless pedals!

@lehmusic2675 9 ай бұрын

I was a pedal guy. Have a Boss Katana or use Headrush now. So much easier and less fussing about pedals

@youngsavage80 9 ай бұрын

When you do the spark cab it would be nice to see how a multi fx sounds through it. Maybe the valeton gp-200.

@andertons 9 ай бұрын

You must be psychic…. 😱😱😱

@evenrai1021 9 ай бұрын

always pedals for me I working on my budget friendly pedal board hopeful will be done soon and this and many other budget pedal videos you guys have done is really helpful thank you guys for your hard work

@borek15 7 ай бұрын

I think the usual cycle of life is: amp with effects like katana or valvetronic so you get an idea of all effect types and how to use them. Then you build your first pedalboard as you pursue valve amps. Then you realize that there are so many types you might just use for one chorus or one song and the more you’re into this you realize it’s an endless journey and you switch to high end modeler/profiler. Alternatively as bedroom yuppie you pursue and purchase rare and pricy boutique pedals to prolong your di…rect sound 😅

@dcamnc1 9 ай бұрын

This is exactly what I was looking for. I have a ME-90 now, which I like ok. I next plan to put together an ampless pedal board with a UA Ruby as the core.

@ckhome8907 8 ай бұрын

Get a cheap old Zoom multi FX (i.e G1XON) and arrange your pedals in any orders. Can't possibly run out of combination....only amount of Patch slot limit your option. Reverb > Slow Attack > TS > Delay > Distortion....Just remember: There is no rule, just your imagination for new tone.

@elyssa.c90 9 ай бұрын

It's like Pete said: the ability to pick and mix your pedals is what makes them so intriguing, since no pedalboard is the same. It's all about creating your very own flavour, like a home made pizza vs. a storebought one. Both can be delicious, both will make you full - but with one you get to choose the toppings, with the other you don't.

@borgonianevolution 8 ай бұрын

Both have their place but pedalboards or rack mount processors rule over Stomp Boxes For recording stomp boxes may support a specific sound or gimmick. but in a live show every song from someone using a stomp boxes sounds pretty much the same unless someone in the background is fiddling with off stage extra boxes and settings. With pedalboard processors there is nearly limitless combinations you can come up with from a single unit. Less cost, less noise, less cable issues, less to lug around... The only limitation to those are the 100 preset memories. I would LOVE to see a Digitech RP500 processor with a built in NVME drive for unlimited presets to call up without the need to plug into a computer to rearrange things as needed. BTW... When you do these comparison's you should be using the same pickups. Other wise the contrast between a humbucker and a single coil leaves a weak sauce vibe intentionally on the table for some effects. Won't say you are steering opinions to keep certain products relevant but yeah...

@RetiredDP 8 ай бұрын

I went with the Valeton GP-200LT...multi-effects with a screamin'-deal price. For ONE DAY ONLY (day before Thanksgiving), I snapped it up on Ebay new for $180.

@fender4brad 8 ай бұрын

For me it comes down to if you love to turn knobs or plug in and play. For me it’s easy to dial a pedal. Multi-effects are a great value if you are a master of dialing tone. Pedal board for me. Easy to get great tones.

@davedavem 9 ай бұрын

I'm very familiar with sorting "low to high" on the Andertons website 😆

@armandosinger 8 ай бұрын

Or use both me90 + pedals. Me90 is the price of 1 premium pedal, and has an effects loops. So you so you can wet effects like Strymon Deco after and other effects in the middle via effects loop. Or disable preamp and IRs and have pedals or amp handle that part. Think of me90 as a programmable pedal bundle and just augment as needed.

@wibblewabblewoo6249 8 ай бұрын

Personal preference imo In a studio / recording situation of course you can hear the difference, but I’d suggest in a live situation, when competing with the sound of drums bass keys vox, 99% of an audience wouldn’t notice these subtle differences

@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy 8 ай бұрын

I am all about individual pedals. * You get to cater to exactly what you need. I have a band pedalboard, and a recording studio pedalboard. * You want a different sound? Then swap the pedals. Multi FX is stuck with "Reverb 1," "Reverb 2," "Distortion 1," "Distortion 2." * You want to borrow a pedal? Then plug it in. * You get to hear the sound of a REAL amplifier. There is no comparison to tubes being driven by a Klon or Blues Driver. Individual pedals into a real amp is the way to go. Give me that any day of the week.

@kirkwilliams2127 29 күн бұрын

I agree with ya.

@timwrigley54 9 ай бұрын

Comparing those 2 setups I'd personally go for the multi fx purely for the instant switching from one sound to another during a song. But then i like ambient cleans and crisp high gains. Horses for courses.

@BarrelAgedAdventure 9 ай бұрын

The argument for pedals is that you can buy a new pedal each month and build up your pedalboard. When its time to get rid of your pedal you are more likely to get some money back for them to reinvest in more pedals. Finally, if a switch on your pedal goes it's not as disastewrous as a switch on a multifx. That said a cheap zoom is a great investment if you want to experiment with sound.

@awilliamson3140 9 ай бұрын

I got a Helix LT a couple of years ago, it takes up less room in my cramped "studio" than my previous board and has been updated at least 3 times since I got it, with additional amps, cabs & FX. Plus I've got a much larger selection of pedals (and amps) to choose from than I had before. The down side is that I tend to set up song presets rather than just using the multi FX as "banks" of individual pedals, but that's individual choice. There is an argument that multi FX modeling is not totally accurate compared to the original pedals and not as quick to adjust "on the fly" but they do the job for me as I'm not gigging.

@JohnShalamskas 9 ай бұрын

You can always buy a pedal or two if you think the model falls short.

@IvanZupancic 8 ай бұрын

Understanding how the signal chain works, what makes a certain sound and tone is half the fun. Like legos but for adults. I'd go with pedals, cheap ones first and grow into the more exotic ones and put something like a gigmaster in front if I'd playing for money. What i'd like to maybe see a shootout between something like a cortex and a 'amp in a box' and pedals. something like the Dutches with some pedals vs Cortex. The argument I'd have is you most likely don't need 562793476 sound combinations. You like a handful

@Fukyourfeelingslol 9 ай бұрын

30:59 .... That was honestly the most beautiful jam session I have ever heard on Andertons.

@mattheweady615 3 күн бұрын

8:49 I saw Afterbirth & Anglegrinder at a pub gig in Camden a few years back. 🧐🤘🤘

@GitarrenSebastian 9 ай бұрын

I'm just on my way home from a Blues-Session, where I drove my Guitar (G&L Asat Deluxe Tribute) straight into my Fender Blues Junior... Gain on 12 o'clock, a little springreverb from the amp and I fell in love with my amp again - no Pedals at all 😄

@spacepodi 8 ай бұрын

For a home studio maybe a digital black box unit, but nothing beats a colourful pedalboard for fun and easy to use foot stomping.

@daddio307 8 ай бұрын

I'm not an electric guitar player, so my question is this. When you're playing a set of music and just going from song to song, with a regular paddle board other than stopping on the on and off buttons, what do you do about changing the settings on the different pedal. I can't imagine and actually never see people on their hands and knees twigling all these different knobs back and forth to change the settings for their different pedals for each song they just go from song to song. On the other hand, it seems to me that with a digital multi-effects unit, that you can actually preset all the settings for each individual song and then actually build a set list of the different settings tailored to your performance so that you can just Bank up or Bank down to each song. With this in mind, it seems to me that it would be much more flexible and practical to use a digital multi-effects Union in live settings rather than a regular pedalboard where you can't really take the time to adjust the different parameters that each song might require. Or I could be wrong, I have no idea. Thoughts?

@alonsoa.hernandez 8 ай бұрын

I believe that most guitarists are more “old schooled” and “prefer “ pedals at first.. but seeing this and high end multi -fx , multi fx are the future , but they are also a “platform” where you can discover the sounds that you like or the sounds that you want to achive , and then if you want to build a pedalboard , you can build like you really want, and not spend a lot on pedals that are “the same” pedal

@mrroye 9 ай бұрын

Come on guys you guys are probably two of the brightest guys I follow on the internet, and you can't be doing single call versus humbucker when you compare and sounds. Especially when you talking about how full one of them

@jordrop 8 ай бұрын

Captain, just as an FYI...since you had the website on your ipad you could add/remove to cart and it will do a lot of the math for you. :) Great episode.

@sasscrawtch3900 9 ай бұрын

I bought an ME90 and gave it a go hoping it could replace my pedals, but no… it just doesn’t quite sound the same to me… plus it’s kinda fun getting out there and hunting down that perfect pedal set up.

@incubator2k3 8 ай бұрын

I have a huge pedal collection and a boss gt-1000, i use both with valve amps and the 7 cable method to rig the modulation, reverbs and delays on the fx loop. It's super practical to use the multifx processor, no doubt about it. But, sometimes i tend to use a valve combo with no fx loop and for that, i bring out the pedalboard. Since my current pedalboard is quite easy to transport, i really have no problems with gigs. Combo in one hand, pedalboard on the other and guitar on the back. The multifx stays on my studio most of the time, it's an amazing piece of gear and is very good for experiments and testing out sounds. But i rather travel with the pedalboard since i really don't trust that kind of digital gear out of the house. I have a suspicion that it would be as road resistant as a pedalboard. Both sound amazing, can't pick a favourite tbh

@pabcrane 9 ай бұрын

The benefit of individual stomp boxes is that one can expand the pedalboard gradually as budget allows

@crisjohnalvarez6036 9 ай бұрын

Depends on the needs of a player, But Analog is The Real Thing For me; my Cabinet pedal is digital because i dont have the real one., im using a IR impulse Responses to download all the Cabinet i like, all i have A Analog pedals with the digital IR cabinet simulator at the end of my chain it works for me.

@casssieboy 9 ай бұрын

An eq should be the first purchase on every pedal board, most versatile things you can buy

@davelouis4004 9 ай бұрын

Love pedals myself but , you can get a decent multi fx pedal for under a grand which covers almost every possible sound , there are pedals in the $3,4, $500 range , to fill a board with quality pedals your looking at $2000 to $3000 , depends what budget you have , don’t forget power supplies cables and buffers , live I’ve used both , the multi fx is more convenient and sounds great !

@lance134679 9 ай бұрын

For me, it's whichever set up has me bending down to adjust things less often. If I'm going to use a multi-effects, I create a patch or two to use it in stomp box mode, and make sure I know the pedal really well so there is minimal downtime for adjusting settings. No one wants to wait around while the guitar player twiddles his knobs.