56 for me

Listen Wanda Landowska 😉

Chopin as well

not even close

I would mention Mozart as well.

mozart ew

@@JumpDiffusion with all do respect: who would you consider?

+Ronald Pavellas Well said. Much better than all the pretend musicologists elsewhere in this thread.

I agree. A Fantasia is like a recitative time is looser.

no rubato in fugue allowed !

+Daniel Korts Yes I am aware of that sir - that no rubato is allowed in a fugue. But that doesn't mean it has to be played mechanically and metronomically. It must have the correct PULSE, but not be played like a machine. All music (particularly Bach) should be played it feeling. It's not about over-romanticising the music but playing with deep expression, understanding of the music and coherence - which András Schiff does really well. And I don't really think he plays the fugue with much rubato to be honest.

well imo he just changed tempo here and that is not supposed to happen in the middle of a fugue I have his other performance of this piece and it is better than this one

+Daniel Korts Yes there is a better performance of him playing this piece - is it the one at the Teatro Olimpico after the D minor Mozart Concerto performance? That's the best he's ever played it... There are some other recordings as well. No I do agree with you - although this is a very good performance, it's not his best.

@Kelly Fischer Serious or joking?

envy is a beast

@Kelly Fischer LOL!!!

@Kelly Fischer Get well soon!

@Kelly Fis6her Welcome to being a man-child, without the emotional and musical sentiment of your parents. Anyways, hopefully in the case you ignored what i said above, I hope you can refer me to another composer after 1800 who could take multiple melodies and weave them together into a fugue larger than 3 voices. If not, I’d refer you to A Musical Offering Ricercar a 6, the Great Fugue in G minor, the second half of the Cello Suite no 5 Prelude (you tell me or another cellist that the cello suites are crap and you’re DEFINITELY going to get stabbed by one of our dislodged endpins...), The orchestral suite in B Minor w/ the Badinerie, violin partita no. 6, Violin Sonata in G minor (featuring among the few occasions in music history where a normally monophonic instrument was used as a polyphonic instrument). If you have not heard a single one of those compositions or consider them crap, I’m afraid your knowledge of the later composers is severely lacking if not deficient enough for you to be thrown out of a musical position in a school immediately. Because every single composer that you would support would, quite ironically, agree more with me. No one before or since Bach had succeeded in integrating Polyphony so well into so many compositions on such a massive scale. He wasn’t ahead of his time, nor behind the styles of his day: he was in a time of his own. The only person I currently know who got close was Beethoven. His Grosse Fugue, as whimsical as it was, was remarkably complex for its day and remains quite renowned. But it still did not lay a finger on the massive structures of Bach’s writing. What I can tell you that will hopefully help you understand why Bach gets the love he deserves is because, unlike some of the composers in your playlist, Bach did not specifically write for a musician to improvise based on the notes themselves. Expression was often built from the chords of the piece rather than the rhythm. That’s evident in the basso continuo and harmonic counterpoints built over the melody. Bach often takes advantage of having independent voices by having melodic lines that contradict themselves in direction. No, the expression was implied between the notes, vertically and horizontally and not just in one dimension. Through that, Bach was able to construct a 2 dimensional grid from which a massive fugue could be built from a simple melody. And that’s just the beginning of it. Here for example, you hear the same melody over and over again in different voices. You also hear repeating harmony and bass parts as well in the fugue, holding independently in that two dimensional grid. Fantasias were not as well defined in the 18th century but this amount of chromaticism in that time period was quite absurd yet workable! Another thing you should know: Bach did not intend on developing one solid musical point. It, yet again, doesn’t come in the notes themselves but between them. How? Conversation. One voice makes a minor musical point. The others answer one by one. Then it goes into an arpeggiatic section with passing chordal structures before returning to the motif. Such concepts were strongly used for Large symphonic works of the 19th century. Seems ironic that for someone who distastes Bach’s music so much you can’t properly thank him for being the inspiration behind the music you like so much. If you really wanted to have a distaste of Bach, distaste every composer you have in that list. They all at some point admired Bach and worked his pieces to death. Mozart most of all, through CPE Bach.

LMAO

One could only hope to shake one's jowls to something as meaningful.

Is he a basset hound, or what?

@@oriraykai3610 LOL !!!

EXCELLENT observation ! I thought of the (excessive) use of pedal in Alfred Brendel´s rendering of the Fantasie a while ago ...

I didn't even notice the playing without pedal until i read your comment. The playing is so good!

One of the best performances too is by Sergio Fiorentino

Minimized finger movements

+Johann Sebastian Bach Vay be. Re Minor Bach seven bir türk daha buldum. Üstelik roy roy kazım da dinliyor. Tam benim kafa dengim olabilirsin :D

Herr Bach, kann Sie in Deutsch sprechen? ( ´∀｀)

Leider nicht, aber ich lerne. P.S. I hope google translate translated that correctly :D

Ulan ne güldürdün be :D

And I like the way you wrote it. Thanks.

Same!

For sure!

Спасибо!

2:56 ( 2:58 ) Recitativo, ( 5:59 ) 6:00 Fuga

Tim O'donnell that usually happens to most music lovers. It’s easy to love Chopin, Mozart and Beethoven. But to love Bach requires a prepared heart and mind. I’m glad that you now love the music that deserved to be loved the most.

@@MARTIN201199 c est mon cas. Bach est mon idole même. je suis intimement persuadé que c' est la musique la plus belle, la plus profonde, et qu' il est de loin le plus inspiré, créatif ( un nombre incalculable de melodies et d enchainement melodiques hors norme) . et dommage que certains ne soient pas d' accord avec moi.

vraiment ? j' en suis heureux. qu' aimez vous de Bach ? moi dans le piano j' aime particulièrement les toccatas bwv 910/916 (par glenn Gould) qui sont de vrai chefs d oeuvre d inspiration et de beauté. et bien sûr tout le reste que tout le monde connait. clavier bien tempéré, suite anglaise, concertos etc etc...

@philippe573: Exactly. By the way, a nice touch was the Amazon commercial in the middle -- said NO ONE ever. András Schiff is a wonderful pianist, whose interpretations not only of Bach but of music from the Romantic Era are breathtaking. With artists such as András Schiff, Alfred Brendel, Glenn Gould, it is ironic we laymen can just critique at will.

Philip Cresswell in my case was 24 years ago

Mozart was sent to us from heaven! Bach sent him.

How was it?

@@marymills3581 Easily one of my favorite concerts. Schiff is always so in the moment performing live. A joy to listen to

Listen to his interview this same day before he played this. On this same channel, he explains.

If you do it enough, it becomes muscle memory after a while. You're not really thinking too much about it.

supahsekzy well, I imagine that by enough you mean A LOT then

Felipe Forlin You've also to love playing it as well if you want it to remain in your head. Schiff plays Bach everyday - why wouldn't it remain in his head?

After a couple of years of playing, you don't need more than a couple of weeks of practicing a composition. Most of the work comes from the experience.

It's not actually that hard to memorize music. I'm sure you do it all the time, when you're humming along to your favorite tunes. When you play the piano, the memory is reinforced, because you have aural, visual, and tactile inputs. I have found that it is particularly easy to memorize Bach's music, and most teachers will insist on memorizing it in order to really internalize it.