he mentioned streaming that one of these joy sticks felt flat, how is the rp3+ joysticks for streaming do you know?

​@@PINTO2O2Ofor me it feels fine. I've only streamed NFS Heat and City Skylines through xbox gamepass, but I've had great experiences with both on my rp3+ so far.

Esr kickstands are amazing 👍

why logitech cloud?!?!??! its a joke...

How does the build quality feel? I was planning on picking one up but one of my main gripes is the cheap plastics often used in handhelds, creaking ect. Hopefully it has some strong hard plastics or even metals

@@duckiesae Hi There! I've got one as well, and my d-pad squeaks maybe one time in a hundred when I hit Left. Otherwise, it is rock solid. There is no flex at all in the joints, and I can't even figure out how I would open it. (I was tempted to try to see if I can tweak that d-pad). I do love it though. For what I wanted to emulate/ play, it is great.

@@I4get42 logitech cloud teardown video has uploaded on other youtube channel. it looks quite hard to open.

lmao that handled is as weak as my Samsung A72

next year (2023 black Friday) will be amazing if the g cloud just sits on store shelves the whole time. $200 would be totally worth it.

I was gonna spout some nonsense saying it's for 'e-sports titles, emulation was an afterthought', which is probably true. But if that's the case, why do you need physical controls for games that don't natively support them. If you're buying it for mobile eSports, why not get an ROG phone? Doubles as your gaming machine and a phone. This device becomes an enigma every passing day. Who 'is' this for?

Silly design decision that is further silly with the curved corners. This must have been developed in a Yes man bubble.

It seems pretty good. But honestly I think the pimax portal might be where it’s at once it comes out!

@@toma01001 What? Did you hear what he said at the end of the video?

@@Pix3l_Pr1ncess Waiting for the G Cloud to drop is the best in my situation. I just want it to stream at home. The 20:9 on my phone drives me crazy lol Might get a small tablet.

Edge is not only a cloud gaming handheld which only works 16:9. Google Play games works great on 20:9

A Logitech g cloud display with Razer edge internals would’ve been like an insta-GOAT. I still love my Edge but I love my g cloud to and combining their strengths would be insanely good.

Hell no, it’s perfect for modern android games! GeForce Now has a setting which takes advantage of the full screen of the Razer and is 120 resolution.

Long comment, but good info ❤

That screen on RP3+ is too small for me. I bought one and have already sold it.

Based on what he said at the beginning i kinda wish he had also included it in the comparison.

@@brucegreen8463 That's a valid concern for some for sure. I love it though because I have a use for a true pocketable.

@@bland9876 I think he has an in-depth on it somewhere. From his performance assessment section in this video it seems like the RP3+ is pretty similar in capability to the Logitech.

@@brucegreen8463 it's the good size for me, I just can't get behind the ergonomics at the moment. I guess what I really want is just a smaller odin. The pocket 3+ almost did it... almost.

the most recent gen screen is gorgeous. I don't regret picking up my Pro used from someone who bought it to play the God of War ps2 games, then sold it locally for less than msrp.

I think he should have included it in the comparison even if its only as powerful as a G Cloud.

@@bland9876 ah I think it’s fair to exclude it, it won’t hold up to these higher priced devices at all. It’s just how close it gets for the price that amazes me.

if you forget the steam deck exists (cuz its way to cheap for what it is) then the $3-400 price range makes sense. You have the $100 devices like the myoo mini and rg355xx and then the middle price of these things in this video (don't forget about nintendo) and then on the high end you have the X86 devises like GPD and aya. the steam deck is way to powerful for what you get valve is spoiling us just like how games on steam go on sail so i feel ripped off buying an indi game for more than like $3. i saw the gal gun metroidvania for $22 and went hell no that's only worth $10 max and i still feel ripped off. dumb steam sales

GPD XP+ would be a great alternative to these four Android-only devices IMO. It's too bad there're so few Linux-based handhelds in this size/price/performance-range. (... there's Anbernic but I prefer clicky D-pads like on Odin, Pocket 3 and XP - preferably above the joystick like RP3).

i'd rather just buy a kishi for my phone than buy any of these.

@@chrisrichfield8906 most phone has a camera hole or something to mar the experience.

Since I dont care about a massively compromised pc gaming experience just so it can be like a mobile console vs a nice laptop, I would pay perhaps as much as the cheapest Steam Deck in the android space. I dont think the area's between $200 and $400 are some no mans land - if you really care about android emulation for the nice battery life and great compatibility, then yes, you can easily justify something over $200. Some of you people create weird rules and setups in your head. there is no fight, outside of your own mind.

Which one you use the most tho

@@3dthekingright now the G Cloud because I’ve had the Odin a while now and the G Cloud is new. I’ve been having a lot of fun playing through the huge Xbox and PlayStation library. I actually thought GCloud was ridiculous when it was first announced lol. Some other perks besides the battery life is the screen is amazing and larger which is better on my aging eyes :)

How is the odin for remote console play?

@@jbc6980late responding sorry. It works well for it too! I used it for that purpose before getting the gcloud.

which game are you playing ? is that not a deal breaker that the screen of the razer is not a 16:9 ?

The Kickstarter ended over a month ago for the Portal.

@@eiceys4612 I play android native games. War of the Vision, FFBE. I use the razer mostly for native games

@@4G3NTOR4NG3 Oh, you are right. I guess I can edit it in 48 hours but not cancel. Good thing I wasnt going to anyways.

@@eiceys4612 The app Second Screen controls the aspect ratio and pixel density of Android games.

i wish they rolled the 5G version into "Razer Phone 3". I miss using my RP2 as my daily driver.

I know the anticipation is killing me

I am surprised it didnt end up like the smach-z

@@ca9inec0mic58 I was so uncertain on that device (Pimax Portal) it's not even funny. But near the end of the campaign, I decided to take the gamble as there was many efforts to show the legitimacy of that device.

Address confirmations went out today or yesterday

Shipping to backers starts anytime!

I understand where you are coming from, and I appreciate the feedback. As I mentioned in the voiceover, the average battery life for each of these devices is 12 hours for the Cloud, 6-8 hours for the Odin and Edge, and 3-4 hours on the Portal. I should have taken more time to elaborate that this was with a general use case in mind, so a mixture of streaming, retro games, and some higher-end emulation. I come up with these assessments over time based on my average battery life while using the devices in everyday scenarios. My comments about the poor battery life for the Portal (and others) when pushed to the max were simply meant to make the point that while the Portal can outperform the others, it comes at a more drastic cost -- not as an overall judgement of the battery life (which I made later in the video, by giving the figures I just shared). I like your idea of testing the same game for all devices, although it would also extend my testing and filming process by many hours (likely an entire day) to get an accurate report, and I'm not sure that juice is worth the squeeze in regards to my workflow. Additionally, I think it's worth considering that if someone buys a powerful device at a high price, one of the reasons they bought it was because they were looking to use the power they paid for; so doing a battery test at a performance level well below what many users will actually play (like PS2 at a 1x resolution on the Edge and Portal) may not give potential buyers a good idea of what kind of battery life to expect when they play their device. I realize my battery assessments are technically flawed since they are general observations made over time, but that's also part of my style, to show what it's like to use a device without getting too mired in technical details. Thanks for giving me some perspective to chew on, I appreciate the comment!

@@RetroGameCorps On Steamdeck you've demonstrated a willingness to compromise performance to get better battery life ;-) Maybe I'm being cheeky, maybe I'm being a smartass, but I bet you'll find yourself wanting to explore and elaborate on it more. With phones it impacts battery health. Handhelds aren't so different.

But does it actually work on the edge??

Where are you finding the G Cloud for that price? I have only seen it hovering around $300.

@@DustoMan Mercari, 2nd hand items. Ive seen one go for 116 not that long ago. Lucky find to whoever grabbed it tbh. Besides that they average 200-240

KZfaq PiP

Did he test the Nreals with the others? I'm at the benchmarks now

@@efad3215 Russ didn't test with the glasses. The Pimax might support the glasses, the Razer also without the controller attached and the Logitech doesn't.

@Golf Techie I'd be shocked if the pimax can't use ar glasses, but true on the Razer (it's literally a phone in a grip) and the Logitech.

If that's the case, I'd recommend a controller grip for a phone.

​@RJ I've done it and wouldn't recommend it. Calls, texts, and notifications ruins the experience.

@@pghj100 Can't you just turn on Do not disturb mode while gaming?

@@tetros5265 yeah but then I basically don't have a phone. I need the phone more than I need to game on it. Ignoring everything else I have going on just to game isn't a solution.

@@pghj100 that's what I hate about using your phone for gaming: I can't just stop using it as a phone / communication device and I can't afford to burn through the battery. The whole thing makes it so unpleasant as a solution.

They can keep it

​@@obvious_giraffe8386 It is is still a little too phone like with the aspect ratio and detachable controllers, but with a somewhat lower price it would be a fantastic device

The chipset is outdated and it's already showing its age it won't last another yr before it's obsolete

@@mackw919 It can emulate Switch and play thousands of PC games including Elden Ring and Cyberpunk so not really true...

why not both?

I found that people jockey hard for brand names. Everyone loves screeching "GET AN ODIN!! GET A WINGPD MAX!!!" like... come on, man, let's be realistic here.

The app Second Screen controls the aspect ratio and pixel density of Android games.

I've updated it, thanks for the catch!

….the Nintendo switch is the original tablet with controllers and no one is complaining.

That's not fomo definition

the RG353M would satisfy your need for n64 games for a tiny step up but the RP3+ would let you possibly play some gamecube and ps2 titles. Youre probably better off just enjoying the RG35XX and wait until later this year when more powerful handhelds come out.

@@VSMOKE1 I only had so much disposable income for a retro handheld, wish I had waited just one more month and got something better. I don't regret it, but now I'm now missing out on better hardware that's now releasing (like the Miyoo Mini Plus).

@@VSMOKE1 explain

Unfortunately I still think the $450 asking price for the XP+ is still too high to be a serious contender; I kept this comparison video limited to $300-400. The XP+ just never really resonated with me, I pick it up every once in a while but I still think it's not tall enough. But I do like the analog sticks!

There are a few reasons why the XP models didn't make it into this video. I didn't even really consider them due to pricing, which remains about $450 for the XP+ depending on where you shop. I also decided to really focus on one 20:9 device, and for me the Edge beats the XP+ in just about every category, particularly in ergonomics. Sadly the XP line is simply hard for me to recommend to users.

@@RetroGameCorps agreed, I live up in Canada and the prices range from $480(eBay) and up depending on the website. I wouldn't mind seeing what the sub $300 handhelds would be like, Odin lite, retroid pocket 3 and 3 plus, powkiddy x18s, etc...