Ugh please let him not come back!

@@nettiea9384 why do you say that?

​@@nettiea9384 why lol? He's great television

I died when he said that!😂 and Lisa's reaction was fantastic.

Tbf he's not entirely wrong Lisa's name is on the opening credits but god Jax has clocked a million more hours of screen time on that show then Lisa has 🤣. Can't blame him for thinking he's the main character

By audacity, I think you mean mental disorder. Only a very sick person responds in that way. The guy is beyond mentally unstable. I’m actually worried to hear that he and Ariana still live together after she was on Watch What Happens Live. I truly hope he’s too fearful to do anything to her, but I really do not want to see this turn into Tom snapping under all the pressure of this and taking it all out on her. I personally feel like she and her camp need to get her the heck away from him for good. That house is not worth being near someone like him. The details, legalities, and logistics can be figured out later. I do not want to see the same stubbornness that kept her with him all those years be the same stubbornness that’s keeping her living under the same roof with her abuser. What he did to her was an insidious form of betrayal that he literally justified via his negative feelings towards her. In my opinion, do not under any circumstances continue to live with someone like that. People like him are completely unpredictable on a good day. When these people get backed into a corner, really not good things often result. He needs to stop being treated like some garden variety “bad boy” or audacious person, and really be looked at as the dangerous, unstable, manipulative, evil creature that he clearly is. If he treated her this bad while she was in his good graces, what’s the guy capable of doing now that she’s not and has the entire World turning against him. My hope is that he sees all the publicity as a good thing, capitalizes it for long enough that he forgets she exists, and they all move on with their lives. I’m just really worried that Ariana (and everyone else) have underestimated him in a very major way. I’m not for Raquel/Rachel or what she did in any way, but I have the same fears for her. (I think this was child’s play for her, and I hope it doesn’t result in her paying the ultimate price for playing with the nuke of a situation he handed her.) It’s alarming to me the spell this man has placed on these women, and they way he’s moved through this with blaming Ariana, insulting her, saying that “normally” he would have deleted the video with Raquel that opened these floodgates rather than saying it was wrong for doing it in the first place, going around to the group to apologize/save face, etc. All while constantly contradicting himself/his apologies and really working hard to convince himself that his various performances are convincing anyone of his point of view. I can totally see him lashing out and using the pressure he’s been under/his mental state as an excuse, once the gravity of the situation and how he truly screwed himself sinks in and that SHE is the one getting all the fame/exposure. I really hope that I’m wrong and he just slinks off into the night eventually.

In the end, Rachel did Ariana a favor. Sandoval is a superstar wanna be with no talent. He can’t sing (his band became popular only because of the show) and he is a HORRIBLE actor. He didn’t even cry well - especially when he was sobbing against Lisa’s window. The only thing he’s sorry for is himself. Am I the only one who never thought he was all that. Big bluster, no follow through. Even Schwartz said he should have been working on getting the bar open instead of getting his nails done. He loves himself too much to love anyone else. And P.S. Schwartz is Sandoval little boob.

Lala needs open the case on being a mistress.

😂😂😂

@@lovingme1st973 Lala has insight because she played the part of mistress herself. She disrespects other relationships by having sex with them, then acts like she’s better than everyone. It’s rather hypocritical of her. Just because she’s now able to financially provide for her daughter on her own, doesn’t make her better than Rachel, just makes her smoother at the game. Everyone still likes her. At the end of the day, they’re all cheaters. Always have been. But somehow Rachel is the only “bad” one. It’s such a ridiculous hit job on her. Bravo executives and the cast definitely are great actors. I don’t buy that the majority of this isn’t scripted. I think it was “forced” into writing this way when whatever writer/producer found out about it. They’re all under contract. Again, they were stellar performers.

Right! No longer has an audience!

So true.His ego is just too much!

More than that. His narcissistic mask is now uncovered for everyone to see what a vulnerable little boy he is.

Jax is not any better! Now it makes since they all Tom-Tom-Jax but Jax was always the one getting shit while the other 2 acted all innocent and these woman are worse than dumb! Didn’t your mother ever tell you once a man cheats he’s always going to cheat.

Exactly! He was more sad hugging his brother Tom. Didn't show shit with his gf.

He said he was sleeping around on Ariana, which he was. I don't think it was a mistake.

@@Smaugette No what he said was "Schwartz, you're an idiot 'sleeping on' Raquel." Like, not taking the opportunity to be with Raquel. But he said Ariana instead...

@@Smaugette noo he was quoting himself in conversations with Schwartz. Admitting that he himself was telling Schwartz that he was “sleeping on” (missing out on) Raquel.

Thanks for clarifying!

I thought he made the faux pas. Even Rachel said you called me Arianna

Schwartz is a creepy coward. I used to really like him. No more. Watching him interrupt Katie every moment at their house closing celebration…. He just made me sick. I’m over him.

@@user-wj2db9em1b I feel the exact same way. He was one of my favorites until now. He has no problem yelling and degrading the ladies but when it comes to men he’s a little b*tch ass!

She was groomed to be that evil b*tch. Ariana wasn't blind because Raquel was not that evil before so many ppl started gassing her to just live up her life and just think about herself. And when she ended up in Toms web it was game over.

Right? And I'm no Rachel fan, but Tom's 'correction' was dead wrong... wild.

People see her being groomed and controlled and just keep bullying her. It's just disgusting on both sides.

@Sister S My friend, Rachel is 28, not 18.

Mistakes were made and people sucked up can't everyone finally get over it

Mistakes were made and certain people sucked up can't everyone just finally get over it

Looking forward to Ariana or Lala being your guest.

EXACTLY

Tom definitely looked a lot different in the scene with Ariana than he did in the scene with Raquel .. with Ariana he looked like a scolded guilty school boy .. with Raquel he looked like an older and mature man ..

Probably the problem all along. He is way outclassed

@@lindsaymercier7618🎉😅😅😅

Very true and well said ❤ my friend

She has a cancer moon too

She does but she tends to enable the shitty behavior. I don’t think, as a business owner & Boss, she sets a healthy boundary with her employees/business partners.

Andy’s perception of Rachel is spot on. She turned into an attention whore and in the same manner as Sandoval she inserted herself into anything that put her front & center and to capture the spot light. I surmised she & Sandoval would burn out lighting fast always competing for the center of attention spot.

So true. And she loves andsupports and feels Arianas pain, too.

The only motive I heard of why it could be untrue, or highly exaggerated actually made sense to me. I heard it on Heather’s “Juicy Scoop” podcast (can find on KZfaq or podcast platforms) that Harry had just got his security taken away and the day of this incident or the day before he was wherever trying to fight it being taken away. So if it was exaggerated it would be just a slightly dishonest reason for him to prove that the security is needed still. With social media paps just hounding them so hard after they were just out in public getting thousands of pictures taken doesn’t’ make sense to me. So blurry back seat photos? Why, who is paying for those? If it was not pap but a heist or robbery or some type of chase from “bad guys” I would not be questioning them.

His security was taken away when they announced they were leaving the family business. He got a 100 million dollar deal with Netflix. They can afford their own security. He got millions from his mother’s estate. Look how they live. The police said it was not a high speed chase and it certainly wasn’t a 2 hour chase. If you have ever been to NY you would know it’s wall to wall cars and impossible to have a 2 hour chase in the city.

​@@rubyleuty9417 she literally explained why the word chase might not have been the best choice to describe what happened. Someone can follow you, at a slow speed. It was repeatedly said they were trying to lose them to avoid them figuring out where they were going. I dont know about you but if I had to drive around for 2 hours being filmed and photographed by numerous people late at night after already being out all night, having to resort to going to a police station to be able to get home without strangers following me to my doorstep, and said drivers putting other police officers in danger (the police actually said that not H and M) Id be a little pissed off. And possibly scared if my Mom had died in the manner in which Princess Di did.

No one said it was a high speed Hollywood chase. They had paps following them for two hours, so they could not return to where they were staying, bc they didn’t want the paps to know where it was. No amount of security can pay that away.

How do you think media deals work? Do you think Netflix paid them $100 million dollars the day they signed? lol.

Same, I subscribed.

Why would he seem broken? He's not broken. This is exactly what he wanted.

@@deecastagna9284 he said he was so I'm reaffirming how I don't believe that to be true

@@goodgolly4726 Ahh, 100%.

EXACTLY 💯

Chick's can love him all they want but Andy is openly gay. 😂 It's certainly not a secret.

It's so worth it. I've watched it but it's good enough that I will probably watch it from the beginning again at some point. It's cool to see how everyone has grown and evolved. The drama in the beginning was crazy too

It's ok to go back and binge it during the summer re-runs. So many didn't watch it all and can't understand even half of what anyone is talking about.

lucky you, I've watched from season 1 when it first started, so I know the story. must admit I've been watching old episodes, just can't get enough 😅

I kept seeing stasis’s old ootd pics on Pinterest, and that was like two months ago then I started watching randomly last month and crazy enough scandoval then happened😂

Absolutely. Leave that to the rest of the world

Same!!! 5 year relationship. Last year in it I was called crazy everyday cuz I sensed something was off. Affair? Middle age meltdown ? Something. I was crazy until I wasn’t. But then just blamed me because I was acting crazy, he had affair. SMFH I feel her pain

totally agree

Love Andy 💙🩵💜

😂😂😂 so true

@@2mis2TL86 LOL I'm like I know I'm not the only one that remembers ,ariana had the damn cone on her head and everything trying to be a supportive friend

Plus Rachell and Tom both have said how they do drugs like weed, mushrooms, alcohol, etc. How can production allow that.

@@DianaHill-tf1wc Andy also smokes pot. And it is legal in NY.

@A A I suppose mushrooms, cocaine are legal also in NY

Of course it comes with age but maybe Lisa vanderpump is just wise too!

Yes it is. 🙋💕 You go girls' ...

They're both Tom S lol but we all.know who you mean. Just made me laugh when I noticed you put "Tom S"

Ditto. His eyes!!! Like a crazed psychopath.

@@2mis2TL86 it was scary! Anf what's up with his color, he looks like the freaking eggplant emoji!.

@@fernandaolivares7926 😂😂😂not an eggplant

@@2mis2TL86 🤣🤣🤣

no ....she was repeating something Arianna said to her about her and Tom having dry spells

i agree... i worry for them too honestly, of course what they did is horrible and they should feel horrible about it but wouldn't want them too feel so horrible to the point they hurt themselves or something bc of all the hate they are getting. i get it what they did... ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE, but i feel like we've treated murderers better than this (cough cough oj simpson for example)

I still hate trump more but, yea

I think Rachel was worried without her relationship w James her time on the show was limited and that's why she hooked up w mostly castmates

That's right. I forgot James was in a relationship with Kristen

Damnnnn that’s actually a great theory… I remember in the final when Ariana said to scwartz “I had to beg him to stay sober for 5 days to test his sperm” That’s such an interesting theory!!

I kinda thought it was adrenaline. Typically narcissists become enraged, get loud and aggressive, and yell so that the other person retreats or give up (which we've seen Tom do multiple times). But with Andy or Lisa he can't do that so he had to restrain his natural reaction and attempt to control himself...hence the shaking. Just a thought.

Nope You are certainly not alone with this opinion, I share it and a few of my girlfriends do it too and I'm sure a lot of people fortunately are of the same opinion as us 😀‼️

Oh you're not alone. I think she got on the show and felt like only she should be allowed to be on it and that is just ridiculous. She also just NEVER takes responsibility for anything and I mean anything, which is annoying. At some point in life, you should be able to understand that it can't always be everyone else. And if it is always everyone else, the problem is you!

Good to know because seriously, I feel like no one cares about where they're at and really doubted they were being chased by paparazzi. People see them wherever and don't care about taking pictures. It's not like a picture would fetch millions of dollars.

But what about they years before that.

@@glitterarmy89 he was opening a bar, starting a band, partying etc!

Plus he really only wanted to spend time with her if she drank or did drugs.

When did Tom really breakdown with Kristen?? He did a whole fake cry in Miami to her to get her to back off which was about it. Gave me the panic attack vibes he had at Lisa’s yesterday’s ep

Ariana treated her like a bestfriend many times throughout the season. She stood up for her on numerous occasions, confided in her more than once, and outside the show they were a tons of events together. They were definitely close.

Well she sure as hell got it... That is just so 😢 , there will Never be a 👠 woman who will Trust to be around her man .. how can any " girl friend " TRUST " HER ALONE IN A ROOM WITH HER BOY FRIEND ????

@@kathyelliott6051 yup your so right very sad

@@elizabethhart2434 thanks. 🙋

Where did you hear Raquel's story? I've been saying since the beginning that there is something off about her. She's clumsy and awkward in all her conversations. Doesn't recognize social cues. She takes everything someone says literally, even if said in jest. She over drank on every episode, probably to feel that she fit in. What she and Tom did was a huge mistake. I also have a huge amount of empathy for Raquel. She is obviously struggling with her mental health. I hope she is able to get the proper help.

@@carolyndaigle770 she’s been open about it. Her aunt is her bio mom. Her mom is actually her bio aunt. Her mom didn’t want her. Don’t know the reasons? Young? Drugs? Accident? But she says she has very little contact with her. It’s actually really sad. I think Rachel is on the spectrum, or Asperger’s or something.

@Anna D That's precisely what I've been saying from the start of this mess. Apparently, she writes notes before being filmed because she's so nervous. The drinking to get drunk. Where were her "best friends" when she was obviously having issues. I hope she is being diagnosed with whatever gives her answers. The so-called mental health advocates on VPR are obviously given the title for a storyline. Raquel was asking for help starting season 9. Anyway, thanks for the info. .

@@carolyndaigle770 Rachel’s behavior suggests imo being on the spectrum: takes things literally, no awareness of social clues and more. Oh one more, when she starts a conversation and it didn’t go as she predicted in her mind, the inability to rephrase her responses or as Lala would put it, ‘You can do it-string a sentence together.’