Winch not working? Here's how to test the solenoid

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4 жыл бұрын

Electric winches are awesome aren't they! Well, not when they don't work! It's that heart sinking 'clicking' sound but no movement of the motor....well, this could be for a number of reasons but the solenoid pack is often the cause of the problem.
In this video I use a common WARN solenoid pack which has a fault. Included in the video is the wiring diagram, testing & disassembly of the complete component to show the internals & more importantly why it failed.
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Andy
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@COZMICTOM 8 күн бұрын

THANK YOU ANDY YOU WERE A GREAT HELP FROM A 74YR OLD SCHOOL ENGINEER IN WISCONSIN ( RETIRED FROM CHICAGO ) THANKS MATE

@AndyMechanic 8 күн бұрын

No problem Sir, pleased to be of help. All the best Andy

@garneauweld1100 Жыл бұрын

One of the most practical and helpful presentations, ever. Thank you!

@charlesmoore5369 2 жыл бұрын

Now that’s an intro,I came here for the tech data,thanks for the eye candy.!subbed

@johnathanainsworth4138 Жыл бұрын

Thank you, this was very informative. I love tinkering with things that everyone else thinks is garbage. More people need to try things before they just scrap it.

@coreyneedtoknow3959 8 ай бұрын

Your video was spot on. After a fight to get the 'universal bracket' on the plow, get the plow on, the winch would only go in, not out. Fight with thr button, then found a fuse blown...then nothing...then take the solenoid off and check to see your video if it could be taken apart...sure enough...the one was jammed same. Clean it then release oil...boom.

@AndyMechanic 8 ай бұрын

Awesome, great job All the best Andy

@erocgr00t6 Жыл бұрын

Excellent job on explanation of how they work and troubleshooting. Thank you!

@renegademanxxx 9 ай бұрын

Yup…. The most interesting, entertaining, and helpful channel on the KZfaq 😎 A new subscriber from Newfoundland 👍

@murrengurk Жыл бұрын

Great informative video, thanks heaps! Pulled my not working winch out today and after watching this I'll pull it apart tomorrow and hopefully save myself 3K by fixing it. Legend!!!!

@markkurdys943 3 жыл бұрын

This was amazingly good, step-by-step troubleshooting AND fixing the problem. I'm going through the same process on my ATV winch solenoid. Well done1

@joebatch112 2 жыл бұрын

thx😂

@steverobinson8123 2 жыл бұрын

Tdhanks a bunch for this great video. I was able to track down my problem to a faulty switch using your instruction. Saved me a lot of money!

@AndyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

No problem Steve, good to know it was of help. Thanks for your feedback. Cheers Andy

@clydestamp6970 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding vid. I now posses knowledge needed to repair mine. Thank You.

@wowlord37 9 ай бұрын

This freaking video🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏just learnt me everything there is to know about solenoids and I finally got the plow down on my atv😂😂😂 aaand learned that the relay is fine! Thank you so much for this!

@ramonazteca 10 ай бұрын

thank you for the great video. you probably saved me $3-400. never underestimate what some lubricant and persistent bobbing can do.

@makemaniachannel1354 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this. Very helpful informations for me like a base before installing a remote control on my winch!

@falseprofit4u 10 ай бұрын

Excellent video, very informative and detailed 👍

@jondwyer3037 4 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, Andy.

@georgemcfly7358 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. I fixed it thanks to you. It looked the same inside

@curtklemenz4783 4 ай бұрын

Excellent video: persistence and thoroughness

@AP9311 4 жыл бұрын

Well Andy, that was interesting experiment!!! Great fix. Wish it was saved to live another day! Like Ivan's motto, no parts required, lol!!! Many thumbs up!

@AndyMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Shame that main spring had corroded away. Plus I destroyed the top casing by not spitting those top screws! Lol

@AP9311 4 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic haha, right!!

@williamhillis4185 10 ай бұрын

Very informative video. Worth the time to watch and learn.

@gamalielmahachi4984 2 жыл бұрын

Thanx Buddy, honestly this was well done, & stripping it open made it even clearer as to how these solenoids work. I actually thought the clicking in the solenoid was it malfunctioning, but turns out it’s the winch that was toast. I guess, I normally would not hear the solenoid clicks over the sound of the winch. Saved me buying a new solenoid for nothing.

@AndyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

No problem, pleased to be of help. Happy winching Cheers Andy

@4pevans Жыл бұрын

Thank you you've helped me wire up my new winch!

@ferrariguy8278 Жыл бұрын

Hah.. I have been taking mine apart while watching your video. Mine didn't have the sticker on the top to disguise the 2 Phillips screws holding the top on so I managed to fully disassemble w/o tearing it up. Nice video.

@motorcyclesplusparts7309 4 ай бұрын

Very nice well explained video! Appreciate it mate!

@geoffreyrobinies8592 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the help video I can now fit the winch . Cant think why they didn't put a wiring diagram in the box. In the light of the information on corrosion I am going to put two 1/16" holes in the top of the casing and two 3/32 holes in the bottom for injecting wd40 and airline blow through points and fit the cut out switch. cheers

@lyleerickson7398 3 жыл бұрын

great job show every thing needed to do

@christopherringston3298 11 ай бұрын

Great video Andy, thanks

@cerwin21 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Going to clean up mine up and seal them with right stuff permatex

@tobytollefsen8802 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. Thank you.

@lucasnjtube 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Cheers!

@davidmartin5179 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great video

@kakagaga6246 4 ай бұрын

Thanks Andy for your so prompt answer. I am a woman, solo sailing, and on top of that I am french! Ahahahaha..... See how clear your explanations were? Cheers man!

@mikejordan6244 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@albertoramirez3903 8 ай бұрын

Very Good video Thank You For Explain Everything ..

@oby-1607 3 жыл бұрын

Intro was worth a sub just by itself. Rest of the video was great as well.

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Oby-1 :-)

@abraaofelipe8370 3 жыл бұрын

Ótimo vídeo consegui resolver minhas dúvidas graças ao vídeo obrigado.

@davidhayniern8973 Жыл бұрын

saved the day , thanks

@willytwo53072 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, well done.

@andrewcox710 4 жыл бұрын

I've always coated the solenoid in wd40 or innox before a trip. Also before fitting a really thin coat of silicon around the plastic joints! Never bothered to take one apart though! Thanks heaps, it was very helpful!

@brettparry2052 9 ай бұрын

Thanks man J7st one heads up . Soleinod is for electric winch Relay is for hydraulic winch. Relay is just a switch

@mapleridgefarm1026 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Andy! Thanks for sharing! I know better how a silonoid work now. Im still having a hard time figuring out what going on though. What if i dont have anything connected to the brown switch connector? It was working before so its not the problem but just curious how to why there is nothing connected there.

@paulmarcusholleman4556 Жыл бұрын

Thanks dude

@srdjan272able 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@walterjoncas12 4 жыл бұрын

well done

@aschroer Жыл бұрын

Spot on!

@GF-wb7xt 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@yurabonehed83 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness, you are very helpful! Unbelievable how many videos are totally useless. You helped me so much.

@Luisrod56 Жыл бұрын

Great,great,great . Video

@danielalamo2075 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the tips about battery cut off switch.

@danlux4954 3 жыл бұрын

My winch won’t work until the key is on.

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dan, your winch may be wired up in a way that the trigger circuit for the contactor doesn't get a voltage supply until ignition is on. If so the main power feed to the contactor (heavy cable from battery positive) may still be permanently live - this is a problem as the contacts inside the contactor will be live & will corrode. Best to fit an isolation switch which will stop this & also allow you to cut power to the winch motor if the contactor fails when spooling in or out. Cheers Andy

@danlux4954 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic my last Warn contactor had a recall. Replaced for free. Nice to see the insides.

@justincranford7249 Жыл бұрын

Just wondering if you have a video or know where to get parts for the DC motor on a liftmoore 2000 the magnets have a spring loaded spacer and they got smashed and don't hold them in place anymore

@BillsBayou 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the testing instructions. I was able to determine my solenoid is operating correctly. Do you have any battery isolation switch recommendations? I'm reading good things about the Blue Sea 9003E. It's made for marine use. (I am not a Blue Sea affiliate in any way) Would you also recommend an ON/OFF switch for the trigger circuit just in case the OUT/IN rocker gets stuck or goes rogue? And thanks for the disassembly. I love taking broken things apart and learning how they work (and how I broke them).

@doc559 3 жыл бұрын

🏆🏆🏆👍🙏 . Thank you for sharing

@chrisgerlt4957 Жыл бұрын

I have a 12 volt winch when test the control box the red lights up tester when pushing the in on the controller and on the black when I push the out. When plugged to winch it lights up in and out on both the positive and negative post on winch. Tested the plug for winch plugged in same thing but unplug winch control box lights like it should??????

@edwinthomas618 3 ай бұрын

This was the.cooliest video ever

@roland4953 3 жыл бұрын

Those solenoids are not made by Warn but by Albright here in the UK.

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for the info. Maybe they should watch this video then! :-)

@geezer4444 2 жыл бұрын

perfect tutorial of how to. could also be an idea to fabricate a small Perspex case make it waterproof to house the solenoid ?

@AndyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks :-) There are much better/waterproof solenoids available on the market so it would be best to just upgrade to one of them. All the best Andy

@geezer4444 2 жыл бұрын

thank you for your reply that gives me an incentive to subscribe to your channel

@alonsoelectro1052 Жыл бұрын

Felicidades desde 🇵🇦

@spundyo9 Жыл бұрын

Andy what is the difference between the 4 terminal unit you have and a 3 terminal unit on an anchor winch ?

@kakagaga6246 4 ай бұрын

Hi Andy, thanks for your video, you are very clear. My solenoid is different, with only 3 big plots instead of 4. It goes with my boat windlass. Anyway, I shunted it to test my windlass and the windlass works. When I connect it to the solenoid it doesn't. I tested my solenoid the way u show it, with the multimeter. There is a clicking sound on both side... but hardly any voltage! 3.5, 4 V... Does it mean it's totally dead? I did open the box, it was surprisingly clean, no corrosion or hardly, I cleaned everything, but still same result. What is your opinion? Shall I replace the whole thing? The coils inside are hidden by some kind of plastic wrapping, so I couldn't check them. But the rest looks OK, springs etc.. Thanks man!

@AndyMechanic 4 ай бұрын

Hi, yes, it certainly sounds like an internal fault with the solenoid, I'd suggest replacing it. Thanks for the feedback, pleased you found the video helpful. Cheers Andy

@lockporttransport Жыл бұрын

Very informative. Is there a circumstance where the solenoid would still 'click' but no current on that side? 🤔 Thx

@AndyMechanic Жыл бұрын

Yes, definitely - usually the internal contacts will be badly burnt when this happens. Worn brushes or burnt windings in the motor will also cause the same symptoms - but would occur in both spool In & out. Cheers Andy

@tambitre1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! A question.. what happens when one uses a bigger relay than needed.? A 8000lbs winch relay for a 2000lbs winch..

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

it will be just fine. no problem at all :-)

@tambitre1 3 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic one more question.. how do you do this with the girls 😂? Just kidding. thank you very much.. great help 🙏

@Sethjxl 2 жыл бұрын

If you use a solenoid from a heavier winch, it will probably be for a series wound winch, they are wired differently.

@jimk575 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Andy I have that same battery load tester. Wow does it get hot when you test a good batter.

@AndyMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Sure does :-) great for those cold days!

@forevercomputing 4 жыл бұрын

Mine just smokes and gives a burning smell. Other than that, it does what I need.

@sexymarine29 10 ай бұрын

I have a Traveller 9k winch on my car hauler with a wireless co troller but not getting feedback to the winch to let it unroll and reel it into the spool what gives

@simonrawle7885 4 жыл бұрын

fixing scrap parts is always fun

@AndyMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Sure is :-)

@forevercomputing 4 жыл бұрын

Reviving scrap*

@brandanrobbins4039 3 жыл бұрын

So let’s see the side of the winch that was working was the outside to let the winch out my watch has a free turning switch where I can just click over and pull it out so sorry I didn’t check it and then I realized my winch will not return but it was still go out I could switch the polarity on the load side to make that change to be the return then and be able to make it home with my vehicle instead of having to walk because my Winch only had 1 side working is that correct or would I change The polarity on the low-voltage side and it will automatically switch it on the high-voltage side

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

you'd have to switch over the two heavy cables to the winch motor for it to reverse. The fault is likely in the contactor - if not then in the actual switch that controls the winch. You'd have to do some simple tests... Hope this is of help. Cheers Andy

@usaquick5468 2 жыл бұрын

Good job! Nice to see someone test a solenoid correctly for once. BTW, those solenoids are water 'resistant' not waterproof, despite the label. There is no such thing as waterproof....

@dynamicworktrade924 2 жыл бұрын

Im thinking of using marine solenoid should it work ank 2000lb winch ampere is 35 - 150. Should it be okay?

@AndyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

Yep will be just fine though remember the winch solenoid is a duel change over relay, not a standard type relay. Cheers Andy

@dynamicworktrade924 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic but can i use 2 relays from a motorcyle type 100a?

@dynamicworktrade924 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic the winch worked with it but cant figure out how to wire it 🤣

@AndyMechanic 2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm.....how many wires to the winch motor, 2 or 3

@dynamicworktrade924 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic 2 only i have

@Jimcool1942 3 жыл бұрын

Very helpful and clearly presented. Thanks!

@bigzoffroad Жыл бұрын

Andy, I got a winch that’s passively drawing 12amps from my battery. I have pulled it all apart, checked the solenoid, the solenoid is good, but the winch still just draws the power from my battery. Do you know what the issue could be?

@AndyMechanic Жыл бұрын

Yep. It has to be a solenoid fault. The solenoid, when the winch is not in use, should disconnect all of the heavy cables to the winch so there should be no circuit I'd suggest replacing the solenoid - 12 Amps draw is very high. Also make sure you have a battery isolation switch fitted on the main 12v positive from battery to solenoid - without one things can go really bad if solenoid jams in spool in mode.... Cheers Andy

@bigzoffroad Жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic aight! I have a replacement solenoid ready to go, so I’ll give it a try! And yes, after watching your video i was like “yeah, i need a switch!” What kind of switch do you run for that kind of job?

@AndyMechanic Жыл бұрын

Usually the type they use in really cars...normally rated to 100 Amps. If winch draws more current then you can get a larger one from a truck parts supplier

@bigzoffroad Жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic thank you for the help!!

@shoreangler3383 3 жыл бұрын

So, in the field, we just bypass the relay and energize it directly. But interesting video, anyway.

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have done that a few times too...a neat trick to get you out of trouble when the solenoid fails. Great feedback. Cheers Andy

@Heavens7thCloud 2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic Lets say my winch is stuck because of this same issue. How would i bypass it correctly so that i can get some slack in my winch??

@nicholsceramiccoating8284 3 жыл бұрын

So I've have had the problem of winch goin out but not in, replaced solenoid, and switch with new one but still have same problem 😡😡😡 only thing left is winch, right?

@danlux4954 3 жыл бұрын

Switch maybe.

@ZhangyXD 3 жыл бұрын

There are solid state reversers now that can handle this power, no need to repair again

@forevercomputing 4 жыл бұрын

Why didn't you wire from the solenoid first, then wire the battery last? Maybe you didn't think of that at the time. Avoids the surprise sparks.

@AndyMechanic 4 жыл бұрын

Sparks are fun :-)

@forevercomputing 4 жыл бұрын

@@AndyMechanic Only when you expect them. lol

@jfrog180000 Жыл бұрын

Sparks are way more fun when you aren't expecting them! It gets your heart racing and just reminds you that you are still alive 🤣

@FirstLightAdv 2 жыл бұрын

6:00 the schematic

@AztecWarrior69 3 жыл бұрын

2:06 " my background is 4 wheel drive winches warn....." , Seem more like you just have a little bit of experience with them not a background in them.

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

Correct....I have fixed a few over the years on our 4x4 recovery vehicles & Unimog (rear anchor winch) - had a hydraulic on the front. Plus a few ATV winches too...

@phantomwalker8251 3 жыл бұрын

if theres a spring at bottom//top. its rusted to fk. id say..

@AndyMechanic 3 жыл бұрын

yes, exactly....these are not waterproof despite what Warn claim! Cheers Andy

@SuzukiJimnyOffRoadArmenia 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. my question is the following. I have Axon 45s installed. But its works in wired way. When try it in both ways (in and out) it works with clicks. It turns and stops, turns and stops. Please see the video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g9uUldNi3cvZdX0.html). Any idea what causes this? I think this model is with integrated contractor, and no solenoids are there correct? Will appreciate your help.

@AaaAaa-mu1ro 17 күн бұрын

Daniel Kistler from Australia has a good video on how to access the contacts and bussbars in a Albright solenoid by taking bottom nut off 4 terminals and removing the 4 terminals which are like studs in copper retainers he then removing the copper retrainers with pliers so you can clean the contacts by remove the top cover without destroying the solenoid which when cleaned you can retain as a spare. he used sandpaper between the 2 contact surfaces worth bit of a look as could all be done on the track