Anglican Unscripted 861 - Emotional Vs Reasonable

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2 ай бұрын

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@terryhemingway6983
@terryhemingway6983 2 ай бұрын
Acceptance is based on the recognition that every human being bears the image of God, marred by sin that it is impossible to deal with on our own. Our message is that the Lord is the God of the impossible, and demonstrates it by sending His Son to die in our place for our sins. Whenever any of us places anything above our love of God, the answer is repentance leading by grace through faith to obedience, never acceptance.
@cdy1952
@cdy1952 2 ай бұрын
AMEN!!!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🔥🔥🔥
@royquick-s5n
@royquick-s5n 2 ай бұрын
Love has been used to cover, cloak, many sins, not remedy them, e.g. TEC.
@iancallard3561
@iancallard3561 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for continuing with episodes when things on the home front are difficult. Regarding the C of E ordinands, if the bishops want any conservative clergy and membership still to be in the Church in 20 or 10 years, they'd better work out what that's going to look like. They're certainly not being 'inclusive' about it right now!
@JonathanRedden-wh6un
@JonathanRedden-wh6un 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your encouraging testimonies at around 3 to 4 minutes.
@chriselston1718
@chriselston1718 Ай бұрын
We should not miss the points made by President Bukele of El Salvador in the Tucker Carlson interview that first the battle against evil had to be won in the Heavenlies before the battle against evil was won on the ground in El Salvador, and that the government all prayed together and asked for God's wisdom to know how to tackle the horrendous crime in the country. This point is so relevant to Western countries in our battle against evil.
@rick11960
@rick11960 Ай бұрын
Thanks for another interesting programme Gentlemen. Ireland :The amazing and controversial Anglican,Burke family from Mayo frequently reminded the Irish Prime Minister and his party collegues of bringing shame on the country by their cowardice as they sought votes on the streets of Ireland,[Local and European elections].The PM and Ministers were seen fleeing from family members and never engaging with them. The Bishop of Meath and Kildare also did a runner at the, abandoned,Church of Ireland Synod. It was a bit much,George,to equate the Burke's protests with the appalling Fred Phelps family from Kansas, who have done untold damage to Christianity. I think the Burke family are certainly difficult ,especially in a country like Ireland which was very strongly Christian [at least on the surface].Cranmer would be a role model to people like this.
@Mark_Dyer
@Mark_Dyer 2 ай бұрын
Bless you both for these posts. However, from 14:00 onwards you discuss the validity of women in Holy Orders (within ACNA). To this Christian's mind, the problem is with the entire 'Churchian' concept of Holy Orders, in the first place. I suspect that, in an increasingly 'secular' Europe, Christians will be knowing, and recognising, one another in a manner similar to that in the Primitive Church; when Christians were Jews. When gathered together in the name of Jesus of Nazareth, any of those Christians may use the words of 1 Cor 11, Mark 14, Mt 26 or Luke 22 to ask God's blessing on bread and wine; rendering those elements sacramental. As I have written many times, "Blessings exist because God 'is': not because priests exist." Now aged 72, I was raised within Canterbury Diocese, in the days of the great Michael Ramsey (also previously a Bishop of Durham; and a lecturer in its University). Justin Welby has to be the dumbest Archbishop I can recall. He not only appointed the retired Chief Nurse of the UK to become Bishop of London; but that was only after he received advice to NOT appoint the Rev Paula Vennells (she of the cruelties of the Post Office Horizon Enquiry scandal) to that position. The current leadership of the C of E seems to have a 'downer' on theological acumen and merit. Welby has a 'managerial' frame-of-mind, inherited from the Oil Industry, (much criticised by Professor Martyn Percy in his book, 'THE FUTURE SHAPES OF ANGLICANISM') and this 'managerialism' has infected the Church like a virus. It has contaminated DEI appointments (like Rose Hudson-Wilkins), and the entire edifice of 'safeguarding' within the Church. Genuine Theologians no longer offer their services to the Church: perhaps the last one was the great JNT Wright (also Bishop of Durham; and the greatest living Pauline scholar). We don't need 'priests': but we DO need Theologians. We need them to demonstrate that a belief in a creator God, who made himself known in the history of one People, culminating in one young male Jew (much to the disgust of Rose Hudson-Wilkins?) is still a REASONED and REASONABLE position to hold in oday's World.
@dalecaldwell
@dalecaldwell 2 ай бұрын
I'm tryuing to imagine Michael Ramsey in a sombrero and, praise be to the Lord, I can't. BTW, the Magna Carta was not about free speech in any way.
@vivienneingram3760
@vivienneingram3760 2 ай бұрын
Thank you both again , may God bless you both.
@bbaker4311
@bbaker4311 2 ай бұрын
I went to Trinity for some week long mini classes. There was a lady there who was openly weird if not openly gay. She was loved and left to be herself
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. Ай бұрын
Waiting for the ACNA to split. If church is a democracy and faith only personal then there may be as many denominations as there are adherents. Endless splits.
@filigree123
@filigree123 2 ай бұрын
Douglas Murray rather than Charles Murray.
@787Earl
@787Earl 2 ай бұрын
God bless you, thank you
@campbellpaget453
@campbellpaget453 2 ай бұрын
She hasn't changed; but she's not alone at the top. It's what happens when your hierarchy are selected (by a carefully controlled institutional elite), not elected. They get away with the most egregious choices of people by claiming that 'they prayed about it.'
@ventriloquistvance2388
@ventriloquistvance2388 Ай бұрын
The Reformed Episcopal Seminary in Blue Bell, Pennsylvania.
@melvynmcminn9121
@melvynmcminn9121 2 ай бұрын
How about doing an interview with Bishop Steven Tighe of the Anglican Diocese of the South West??? He just might surprise you both! GBY
@annakimborahpa
@annakimborahpa 2 ай бұрын
Regarding the recent loss of cachet for the designation 'Episcopal', all I can say is: If - the King James Bible was good enough for both the 1928 Book of Common Prayer and the Protestant Episcopal Church in the USA, then - that's good enough for me. And if I ever forget the 1940 Hymnal, "let my tongue cleave to the roof of my mouth" (Psalm 137:6, KJV).
@kingpatriarch224
@kingpatriarch224 2 ай бұрын
If entire ACNA dioceses believe a woman priestess cannot confect a valid Eucharist, the ACNA has a real problem. The ACNA also has serious issues with the C4SO supporting alternative lifestyles. I really hope the ACNA can stop the slow drift back toward Mainline Protestantism. The ACNA has so much potential but the House of Bishops needs to reign the entire Province back to Scripture, Tradition, and Catholic order without giving a care to modernism.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 2 ай бұрын
What is a valid Eucharist? What makes a Eucharist valid? Surely it's the heart of the recipient, no matter who "presides" at it.
@kingpatriarch224
@kingpatriarch224 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmorrison2739 only priests can consecrate the Eucharist. A woman cannot be a priest because the Scriptures and Tradition have made this clear. Anglicanism does not allow lay people to preside at the Lord’s Supper. Many clergy and laity in the ACNA will not receive Communion from a woman priestess because she is not a priest. Hence, you have a serious issue when you can’t even have Communion in your own province.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 2 ай бұрын
@@kingpatriarch224 Last week i took part in a Lord's Supper service in a "high" Anglican church outside my home diocese. The minister presiding was a woman who preached a very wishy-washy sermon. There was a "Gospel procession" which I find ridiculous. Many of the communicants took the wafer only (which is supposed to be ordinary bread) and broke the general rule that we should both eat and drink in remembrance of Christ's death. I have no doubt that for me and my wife the sacrament was "valid" and it's absurd to suggest that it wasn't. A woman preaching and presiding is disorderly but that can't "invalidate" the sacrament. Normally it should be left to ordained male presbyters. If I were on a desert island with others and there was no priest available I would, as a layman, have no hesitation in leading a Lord's Supper service. But the cruises we go on usually bring us home safely.
@kingpatriarch224
@kingpatriarch224 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmorrison2739 if a woman cannot be ordained because she is invalid matter for ordination, if she is not a priest/presbyter, how can she offer and consecrate a valid Eucharist? Can you answer this? I hope it is not just because you think she can. Women's ordination is the white elephant in the ACNA that the House of Bishops needs to deal with. If not dealt with, more men and parishes will leave for the sub-jurisdiction of the ACNA: the REC.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 2 ай бұрын
@@kingpatriarch224 In the Eucharist we eat and drink in remembrance that Christ died for us. The idea of consecration and validity and all that is simply tradition to regularise and solemnise the sacrament. Jesus and Paul didn't say anything about consecrating the elements or who should do it. I believe my view fits in with that of 1662 and the 39 Articles, the official standards of the Anglican Church of Australia. I'm still waiting to hear what is meant by a "valid" Eucharist. Bread and wine are bread and wine and anyone can eat and drink in rememberance that Christ died for us.
@stephengriffin4612
@stephengriffin4612 2 ай бұрын
Is the Episcopal Seminary in Cambridge defunct? Did I win the lottery?
@georgeconger2850
@georgeconger2850 2 ай бұрын
Yes, it’s gone
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 2 ай бұрын
Women are not meant to lead in church, nor are they meant to be the head of the household. It is abnormal if they lead in church or the household. For example, a "single mom" formerly and more rightly called an unwed mother, or a widow with children are not normal for a family. As the man is the head of house, so men lead in church, it IS their role, Paul was quite explicit in it. Jesus chose 12 men; He was not an idiot, nor some "victim" of His culture. He knew what He was doing. This is MOST relevant to priesthood, since the design is one in which one acts in Persona Christi, i.e. standing in for Christ Himself who was a guy and then some. Design matters. He taught us to pray to God The Father, He was BIG TIME into the Father. In marriage the Father or man of the house stands in as a representative of God the Father, the Trinity itself being essentially a kind of family. So, if you want chaos, if you want a mess, then, forget St. Paul and just pretend that absolutely anyone can lead. Then maybe you can add women to combat units, put men in dresses, and make some guy in drag an admiral. Pretend does not work, it's a farce.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 2 ай бұрын
Since the only earthly priesthood recognised in the New Testamant is the priesthood of all believers, I can't agree with every detail of johnjon's comment, but of male headship and leadership he's spot on in my view.
@royquick-s5n
@royquick-s5n 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmorrison2739 David, people confuse the priesthood, i.e. temple priests (cohanim), with presbyters. Hebrews equates Jesus with "the high priest [cohen hagadol] of our confession."
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 2 ай бұрын
@@davidmorrison2739 What happens if by the laying on of hands Christian priesthood of an ordained ministry precedes the existence of the new testament itself and it is all male? I think the priesthood of all believers and that of the ordained ministry are different in type, power, and scope. I think were this not the case then the 12 would have not needed to replace Judas, among other things. Anyway, best wishes these are just my ideas.
@rick11960
@rick11960 Ай бұрын
El Salvador :Interesting comments on the President of a country named after Jesus Christ, who is a Muslim, This is a country where Archbishop Oscar Romero was murdered on the altar as he was celebrating Mass.He is now a saint and also recognised by the Anglican and Lutheran Churches.
@odinsraven116
@odinsraven116 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE EXPLAIN IF GOD IS AGAINST WOMENS ORDINATION OR NOT? If he is , then there is no argument , is there? Please explain this to me George and Kevin!
@JanetEchols
@JanetEchols 2 ай бұрын
I was reading the Fort Worth statement and had a few questions. Could you help me? I am a bit confused... they wrote, "RESOLVED, that this Diocese maintains its status as a member diocese in the Province of the Southern Cone while the formal process of recognition of this new province continues in the Anglican Communion." I thought Southern Cône was already a province. How can FW be in ACNA and be a member of SC? How can they be in "full communion" with GAFCON or Global South or Anglican Communion according to FW's own rules of engagement since all of these ordain women? I am not trying to be argumentative; I am looking for clarification.
@royquick-s5n
@royquick-s5n 2 ай бұрын
The issue of WO has not been fully resolved in the ACNA. Some are saying that it should be.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 2 ай бұрын
You could come to some services at our Anglican church in Sydney Diocese and you wouldn't know it was Anglican, even thought it has "Anglican" in its parish name. Robes? Written liturgy? Traditional hymns? Organ? Robes? Visiting Bihop in robes? What??
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 Ай бұрын
@@royquick-s5n For reasons other than personal taste I now go to a service with a largely "folk" liturgy and no piano or organ. And sometimes drums played ad nauseum! Fortunately Sydney Diocese has had a ban on the chasuble since 1910 and in any case our clergy seem to have mislaid all their robes, even the simple cassock and surplice. Even if they wear a tie they look over-dressed. But they are genuine, highly-trained Anglican deacons and priests. But I would rather have the organ and some more written liturgy if it didn't mean having to go to church with mainly fellow-geriatrics.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 Ай бұрын
@@royquick-s5n Not a member of Southern Cross. Ours is one of the biggest parishes in Sydney Diocese with four full-time clergy. Robes of any kind are becoming rare in the Diocese, with even bishops being robeless at confirmations or when visiting for other reasons.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 Ай бұрын
I prefer traditional services and I don't mind the odd surplice or two but I htink it's important not to miss the wood for the trees or the truth for the ceremony. I like the 1662 communion service but I believe we can have a true celebration of it wihout ceremony and without robes and (gasp) even wihout clergy. But for reasons of order etc. there are traditions and rules and sometimes they are good to follow.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 Ай бұрын
@@royquick-s5n It's not necessary for the Lord's Supper. That goes back to the earlier church.
@davidmorrison2739
@davidmorrison2739 Ай бұрын
@@royquick-s5n Probably in Corinth.
@Lyle-ke4ex
@Lyle-ke4ex 2 ай бұрын
Is being a horse ass illegal
@ericjorgensen1158
@ericjorgensen1158 2 ай бұрын
Reformed Episcopal Seminary
@bbaker4311
@bbaker4311 2 ай бұрын
I loved Trinity in it's first encarnation as a pentecostal seminary
@williamwilkes503
@williamwilkes503 Ай бұрын
No Kevin. No heterodox seminary can provide a formation for Orthodox Christians so different is our theology and praxis from Western Christianity. So; if there are "a few Orthodox there" as you claim, they're there "on their own dime" so to speak and that kind of education will get them no credentials in the Orthodox Church, trust me! I might add that Orthodox seminaries function quite differently from the Western model." Both men and women are admitted to Orthodox seminaries. Most who seek that level of education are there deepen their Orthodox education and spiritual lives. A minority - men only - go to Orthodox seminaries aspiring to sacramental ministry. Western seminaries are a product of "clericalism" - a phenomenon foreign to the Orthodox phromema (or mindset). You stand corrected, sir.
@bbaker4311
@bbaker4311 2 ай бұрын
Getting an ad for Biden using Obama
@odinsraven116
@odinsraven116 2 ай бұрын
PLEASE EXPLAIN IF GOD IS AGAINST WOMENS ORDINATION OR NOT? If he is , then there is no argument , is there? Please explain this to me George and Kevin!
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