I tried 5 Firebase alternatives

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Firebase leads the backend-as-a-service space, but there are many popular alternatives like AWS amplify, Supabase, Nhost, MongoDB Realm, Appwrite, and Parse. Let's compare the pros and cons of fully-managed cloud services.
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- Firebase firebase.google.com/docs
- AWS Amplify docs.aws.amazon.com/amplify/
- Supabase supabase.com/docs
- Nhost nhost.io/
- Appwrite appwrite.io/
- Realm www.mongodb.com/docs/realm
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@Fireship Жыл бұрын

If you wanna go beyond the basics, I’ll be spitting more fire on my new channel kzfaq.info/love/2Xd-TjJByJyK2w1zNwY0zQ

@JasonJA88 Жыл бұрын

Pocketbase

@greendsnow Жыл бұрын

strapi?

@ThePowerRanger Жыл бұрын

Subbed

@Khari99 Жыл бұрын

I found Dgraph from using your channel and prefer it over all of these options.

@shateq Жыл бұрын

🔥

@stefnirk Жыл бұрын

Supabase is open source, can be self-hosted, and connected to an in-house Postgres database; this is a massive benefit if you want to make a commercial product.

@minnow1337 Жыл бұрын

Just use firebase emulators in production 🥴

@sanesanyo Жыл бұрын

Isn't the whole reason of using BAAS is that you don't have to self host?? Doesn't it defeat the purpose?

@magicbinbin Жыл бұрын

@@sanesanyo it's great for prototyping, but Firebase becomes super expensive at scale. With Supabase, when you scale you can self host for lower costs

@stefnirk Жыл бұрын

@@sanesanyo No, in my professional experience, one of the main reasons to go for BAAS is the layer between the database and the app. Hosting a DB is quite simple, the problem comes with authentication and ease of query writing for developers.

@s3rverlord Жыл бұрын

Supabase is fake. They promote themselves as open source but always only promote their paid service. Their documentation and even the videos they make only always mention the service and never the self hosting option. Plus their self hosted app is unsecure. Doesn't even offer a login page to authenticate and sign in.

@wholesome8691 Жыл бұрын

"All about that Bass, 'bout that Bass, about that FireBass, NoSQL" - Fireship 2022

@user-re8lt2gy3g 10 ай бұрын

@arvidd 10 ай бұрын

@@user-re8lt2gy3g😂

@naxaes7889 Жыл бұрын

Am currently making my own alternative right now! It's written in C with the performance of Python and can host up to a two-digit number of people. It has a guaranteed uptime of 59.9999999999% (yep, that's 11 9's) and supports a large subset of both HTTP 1.1 and JSON. It's also monolithic, so it can be easily upgraded by buying better hardware, and you have LTS support as long as people are volunteering in the open-source community. Once it's done I'm thinking of releasing it for free, but with the option of a paid subscription if you want it to work. So stay tuned, and am looking forward to seeing it on a video in the near future!

@ashron4472 Жыл бұрын

Just let us know your github link. I will stay tuned for more information about it

@naxaes7889 Жыл бұрын

@@StretchyDeath Awesome! Just make sure to write "It doesn't work" because that's not always clear from context. You can omit the rest of the problem description; people will figure it out.

@naxaes7889 Жыл бұрын

@@ashron4472 It's currently hosted on Google Drive actually. But I will post a link when it's in open beta! That'll hopefully be within a month (or maybe sooner) depending on when we get our first successful compilation.

@ovidiusm7710 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMR-777 you have a hard time understanding jokes, don't you?

@naxaes7889 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMR-777 No, that's incorrect. Don't always believe the dogma perpetrated by educational media, universities, and peer-reviewed papers. I've written HUNDREDS of programs in C, and my colleague's Python programs have beaten them all. So it's easy to disprove that assertion with simple statistics.

@iamtheV0RTEX Жыл бұрын

"I'm not some apex alpha giga chad building my own backend in Rust just to serve 5 MAUs". I somehow feel both validated and attacked by this comment.

@JuswanthTeeb Жыл бұрын

Am I really listening at 1x speed? 🤔

@galaxies_dev Жыл бұрын

Been using Supabase for quite some time and love it - but it’s a great overview about all options out there. What a time to be a developer 🙌

@tamla9875 Жыл бұрын

have you ever used it for commercial use?

@aarond309 Жыл бұрын

I’ve used Parse because I couldn’t use Firebase, it works extremely well and is relatively easy for even a novice programmer like myself to use

@AkshaySood1 Жыл бұрын

Used it! Works wonderfully:)

@nullset2 Жыл бұрын

Parse is really good too

@KN-sc4up Жыл бұрын

Parse is great, but it's now a bit outdated and lacks development, which is a shame.

@owenwexler7214 Жыл бұрын

You've inspired me to seriously consider using a BaaS after having built and maintained a few backends the old school way. Lots of research, testing, and prototyping in my future.

@yanndonazzolo7944 Жыл бұрын

Great video (as always)! About Amplify, there is a massive advantage because you can define all your infrastructure directly in your codebase without touching a dashboard. So you can duplicate it easily for several environments with great cicd integration which makes it the only one in the list I feel confortable using in prod

@mahamedahmed9312 Жыл бұрын

I agree with u 💯

@coreyclemente2526 Жыл бұрын

I very recently learned about "Serverless Cloud" from serverless. Still playing around with it, but I'm loving it so far. Built on top of AWS, with wrappers for DynamoDB, S3, APIs, etc.

@sakkarinsawad548 Жыл бұрын

Honestly once explained it's fairly intuitive. Thank you for breaking it down so nicely for us newbies! Can't wait to play with the full version

@embedyt Жыл бұрын

I've used Appwrite for a tiny project and it was actually really nice to use. I definitely recommend it (and might even use it more when their cloud releases)

@vincentge1334 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! We've released some pretty big updates in 1.0, 1.1, and 1.2. This includes our stable release, redesigned UI, and GraphQL. Give it another whirl and see if you like the changes 🙈

Жыл бұрын

NHost is an incredible time saver for me. It's build on open-source tools and has very generous free tier. It's also very performant. I have 100M+ rows in a table and still get sub 150ms responses on Frontend. (I'm not affiliated in any way, just love the product).

@sorianojohnclarencel.2081 Жыл бұрын

Would love it if you continue this series...the best thing i ever saw on KZfaq❤️

@poorpotato4467 Жыл бұрын

I watch most youtube videos on my 2nd monitor while I'm doing something else, but your videos are so dense and well put together that I have to sit and pay attention to all the little details and memes that you pack into every second. Great content!

@olegnikitindev Жыл бұрын

You are doing great! Amazing format and huge amount of information! Thank you for your videos

@raymondmichael4987 Жыл бұрын

Sure, mongodb realm is my go to these days, when you pass the settings and schemas it's a done deal, very powerful and you can literally add few to none additional settings to go production

@4poorv Жыл бұрын

I really enjoy watching your videos and appreciate the way you present information in a fast-paced and to-the-point manner. For the past week, I've been binge-watching all of Fireship. I'm seeking out something which gets me up to speed on creating my first simple photo editor website. Could you please create an end-to-end guide that shows the fastest way for a noob web developer (who is not a programming noob) to create an awesome UI website? Designing is not my thing so I was looking for pre-designed templates to avoid the CSS hell. Thank you for what you do. ✌

@rey6253 Жыл бұрын

I really love the sense of humor + memes you put in the videos, hence they are funny yet very informative at the same time :)

@otakusong66 Жыл бұрын

IT WORKED, THANKS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOREVER, BUT NO TUTORIAL COULD EXPLAIN IT AS YOU DID

@Lucas-hn8hf Жыл бұрын

Great Video, exactly what i've been thinking about / looking into a lot recently, but didn't find any clear information!

@imbenzenker Жыл бұрын

OMG I can't believe Parse is back!! I remember being in love with that service

@jasonmucio6067 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos, man. Smart, informative and just hella funny. 😂

@MrIMacro Жыл бұрын

For beginner Android developers, I think Firebase is a good choice because you can connect your project with only one click and have everything ready for you, but it should be only used for things like authentication, sign in and real time database, but storage and bandwidth are very limited in the free plan.

@lilit3552 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. It has been a pain in the ass as a beginner android dev trying to find a ways to connect database to android. Firebase defenetly seems to be the best choice

@johnvandenberg1448 Жыл бұрын

You're on a roll with pumping out new visa, love it!

@JustCode39 Жыл бұрын

it seems to me that Firebase would be absolutely PERFECT if it had the following features for Firestore... 1. Full text search 2. Ability to know the number of documents in a collection without reading everything 3. A GraphQL API 4. Also maybe protected fields in a document? (only accessible by users with certain permissions)

@1LukasThe1st Жыл бұрын

The last point sounds like it should be possible with the firebase security rules right?

@erickheredia8910 Жыл бұрын

1. Supabase (Postgres) has Full text search. 4. You can use RLS with Supabase.

@varandpezeshkian6299 Жыл бұрын

I dont know why fb is not adding full text search to the default box? it's hight time

@JustCode39 Жыл бұрын

@@1LukasThe1st specific field? I don't think so. It can be done for specific documents though, so I guess it could be done if we structured the it a certain way

@1LukasThe1st Жыл бұрын

@@JustCode39 I don’t remember exactly been a while since I used fb 😅

@torkoff Жыл бұрын

Great reviews and comparisons. Thank you mate! I'll give supabase a try

@magicbinbin Жыл бұрын

Great video, just I think you missed an important aspect of Supabase: unlike Firebase, you can actually self-host your own Supabase instance, if you need

@magicbinbin Жыл бұрын

@Ioan Croitor Not sure, I've never tried it myself yet! But I love having the possibility to do so. Always felt kinda trapped with Firebase

@poolkrooni Жыл бұрын

@@magicbinbin thing is if you're really using Supabase heavily then you might discover that self-hostig is actually not an option, since you'd have to reimplement a ton of stuff yourself.

@AliciaGuitar Жыл бұрын

With fb emulators being released i think self-hosting is not far behind... however i personally would never host my own production server.

@boredguy1663 Жыл бұрын

That is the problem. People who use these most of the time don't want to build or deploy there own backend databases. They need simpler solutions and when your application scales you feel the need to change the database. So nobody uses them anymore.

@heroe1486 Жыл бұрын

@@AliciaGuitar But tons of people would for multiple reasons, or at least appreciate the possibility to do so, it seems like self hosting has become taboo in the JS community while it was just the norm few times ago

@drupi.0 Жыл бұрын

Currently self-hosting appwrite and I love it. I'm using it on a community project right now and it just works perfectly.

@lophixarts 10 ай бұрын

Do you Host it on a Server or at Home?

@drupi.0 10 ай бұрын

@@lophixarts at home using CloudFlare's tunnel

@BenniK88 Жыл бұрын

I’m trying super base since three weeks because I want to switch from firebase. And I have to say the community and service is very great! It’s definitely a learning curve and challenge to adapt to Postgres but seems like it’s worth it!

@techjandro Жыл бұрын

Same here, I like firebase from a long time now but Supabase is just amazing, I’m just moving there for now and it requires some work but the trade off is worthy

@hi9313 Жыл бұрын

Why

@welly_de Жыл бұрын

in pricing with big collection of data and access, which one is better...? firebase or supabase?

@mr_clean575 5 ай бұрын

I feel like there's been quite some updates with these tools. I'd love to see another video on BaaS

@sage_gamers Жыл бұрын

Please make video on your journey as a developer and the ups-downs you faced. btw love watching your video and it inspires a lot 👍🏻

@nickstrands Жыл бұрын

Jeezus lmao ... the first 5 seconds got me spitting my water all over my screen. Good one Jeff !

@samnayakawadi Жыл бұрын

It feels amazing watching your videos. Request you to create a video on how you research, go through these websites, lots of learning & then making videos. ❤️ Just create the video.

@wis4r Жыл бұрын

BROTHER, YOU ARE THE BEST!!! You oooh really helped me!! THANK YOU VERY

@briansunbury Жыл бұрын

I tried amplify recently and it looked really good when I was getting started but was missing some basic functionality that a lot of other people seemed to be looking for as well. I'd recommend everyone to play with all the suggestions in order to learn what each one has and what works well and what doesn't.

@Weagle1337 Жыл бұрын

Working on teams with the amplify backend and git it's terrible

@lillobyte91 Жыл бұрын

hey Brian, what kind of basic features were missing? I've dig into all the BaaS solutions and the most complete for me was Amplify. Just curious

@ZiPMo85 Жыл бұрын

@@lillobyte91 same, also curious....

@everyhandletaken Жыл бұрын

You just described every AWS service offering 😆

@ymi_yugy3133 Жыл бұрын

I used a combination of Firebase and Vercel in my latest project and am quite happy with it. Firebase for auth and database, vercel for hosting and functions. I originally wanted to put everything on Firebase but annoyingly functions require the paid plan and there is no easy way to put a hard cap on spending. I looked at a bunch of firebase alternatives, but their free tiers aren't as generous as that of Firebase.

@ThanHtutZaw3 Жыл бұрын

usage of function and why they need

@hi9313 Жыл бұрын

Can’t you set a spend limit on fb functions??

@ymi_yugy3133 Жыл бұрын

@@hi9313 Not easily. Firebase allows you to have billing notifications, but if you miss them or aren't fast enough you are screwed. What you can do is write a cloud function that listens to GCP budget events and disable billing. But setting this up isn't trivial for someone who is unfamiliar with GCP. You need to mess with various IAM permissions and because Google likes to switch things up from time to time, I don't trust that it will keep working.

@ThanHtutZaw3 Жыл бұрын

@@ymi_yugy3133 how can I limit for testing purposes. I don't want to pay for testing.

@ymi_yugy3133 Жыл бұрын

@@ThanHtutZaw3 You can obviously stay with the free plan, but all "testing" you do counts towards your free limits and you can't use paid features like functions (pretty crucial imho). If you go with the paid plan, you have to pay for everything you use, even if it's just for testing.

@mavdotjs Жыл бұрын

I prefer an SQL database so i like supabase, but one thing I don't like about using supabase is when using the no-code table editor, i can't add "on delete cascade" without writing weird sql

@bradleyh7457 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos!

@jlu Жыл бұрын

Used MongoDB Realm to create a graphql api from my existing data, pretty damn easy 🤯

@dricera Жыл бұрын

One of the most fire (bass) intros ever

@titusfx Жыл бұрын

Supabase can be self-hosted with the magic words "docker-compose up". There's also pocketbase. In any case thanks for ur videos ✌

@toothless.tarantula Жыл бұрын

Appwrite have a lot of potential indeed.

@AbhinavKulshreshtha Жыл бұрын

I love supabase. I have a self hosted version of it for my own projects. I recently started testing appwrite too and it is also something I would recommend to others.

@ThanHtutZaw3 Жыл бұрын

what is self hosted exactly ? what is difference

@ashron4472 Жыл бұрын

@@ThanHtutZaw3 you host the platform on your machine/cloud machine instead of using theirs

@greendsnow Жыл бұрын

It has scalability issues

@TheSuperBoyProject 2 ай бұрын

Appwrite seems to be lacking compared to even parse server. Supabase is all right though

@danvilela Жыл бұрын

New fireship channel? Broo Im IN!

@tekfoonlim4745 Жыл бұрын

Damn!! I'm so early!! 20s ago just!! Hello Jeff, I love your videos especially the code reports and the 100s videos! I hope to learn more from your channel :D

@alichamas63 Жыл бұрын

Hands down the best developer content on the web. Jeff is a man.

@agamjotsingh7371 Жыл бұрын

Please upload a video on heroku alternatives too. Thanks Jeff

@Eckster Жыл бұрын

Dokku is my favorite

@AngelHdzMultimedia Жыл бұрын

Search for Traversy Media, he made a vid 1 day ago.

@agamjotsingh7371 Жыл бұрын

@@AngelHdzMultimedia Thanku

@agamjotsingh7371 Жыл бұрын

@@Eckster never heard of it, would search it up.

@yuting386 Жыл бұрын

thanks! this is super helpful!!

@s3rverlord Жыл бұрын

Pocketbase should have been mentioned here. It is amazing!!

@stockiten3369 Жыл бұрын

love your videos before watching them🤩

@juanvelezlopez Жыл бұрын

That intro was absolute 🔥🐟

@ComisarioLobo 4 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for the video. It would be awesome if you create an up to date version of this video. Ideally, with a focus on end to end type safety

@terrencemashego4058 Жыл бұрын

killer intro 🤣. I love this channel

@juke-duke Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on the concepts of SPAs, SSR, Hydration, Islands Design and such, it would be really informative! Thanks

@minocs Жыл бұрын

Jeff you seriously make my life as a developer amazing 🙏

@Meleeman011 Жыл бұрын

you can also use a docker image for supabase as well

@turesoul Жыл бұрын

Scylla has a dynamodb compatible API that helps a lot with migration of app logic, the data is not so hard to migrate also.

@wendelyndike8721 Жыл бұрын

Brooo 😂😂 Your videos are just the best. 1 minute in and I’m already wheezing 😂😂 This is CONTENT!!! Thanks man 👏🤝

@wendelyndike8721 Жыл бұрын

Scratch that, I meant 10 seconds in 😂😂

@phywem Жыл бұрын

This is the best intro i've ever heard 🔥

@ElPolemista 5 ай бұрын

I became addicted to this channel.

@dongums Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for this

@pujakesuma240 Жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Aweso video

Жыл бұрын

Parse Server is self hosted but fun to work with in the JS realm

@giovannicrisalfi3189 Жыл бұрын

Want to be the Rust backend guy: suggestions? I was reading about Seeds lately and I love how they picked the many good parts of Elm, but this is all about front-end. How should I manage the users' authentication?

@sterinsaji4513 Жыл бұрын

0:37 Hence proved this guy is one year ahead of all of us 😂.

@hevityaus631 Жыл бұрын

This video is super helpful

@CSniper Жыл бұрын

would be fun if you tried off some of cloudflares stuff, durable objects are pretty cool!

@derkin860 Жыл бұрын

It's worth mentioning that, as far as I know, MongoDB + Realm Sync is the only OFFLINE-FIRST solution in this list, you can view Realm databases like you would a SQLite database, and the mobile dev experience of working with Realm is just far better than anything else IMO in terms of speed and the whole zero-copy architecture is awesome. You don't have to copy SQLite query results into memory and pass them around etc.. you just get live results from the local db that you can bind to that are kept in sync with atlas when you have connectivity. I'm not sure about Firebase or the others, but these are huge factors for mobile devs that felt a bit glazed over (I know.. it's a rapid fire review video but just sayin).

@DionV 9 ай бұрын

Interesting. Thanks for posting this. Gonna have to have a look.

@cemilfatihyol4547 3 ай бұрын

Do you have any suggestions for pricing? What’s the best choice for big data especially media storage.

@satyak1337 Жыл бұрын

Hasura and its row level data security is simple and easy to understand. I think Supabase its trying to implement similar feature.

@carlospavajeau7179 Жыл бұрын

Hi , thanks so much for your crack. It really works. But from the beginning it did not work for some reason, I updated visual studio and oh my god it worked. Thank you!

@_teker Жыл бұрын

You just made my write an entire parody of all about that bass, all about that base

@AbhishekKumar-qx9wq Жыл бұрын

Ahh got it thanks for this 😊

@jonjojr Жыл бұрын

Supabase is flexible. Postgres, Graphql, Authentication, API, RLS, Functions, Storage buckets. The full pakcage to get started with a free tier.

@fernandorubensada Жыл бұрын

Awesome content

@TarcisioXavierGruppi Жыл бұрын

Do you have a video about the things you could not implement in Firebase or that you needed a complicated solution to make it work with Firebase? I see a lot of good features in videos but not many with the hard things.

@markeem321 Жыл бұрын

Gosh, u cracked my mind. There’s now a endless loop in ma mind ..bout that baas, bout that baas

@whoamitalkingto9593 Жыл бұрын

So it looks like the best option depends on the type of database you want. Firebase for nosql and supabase for sql.

@MultiZ100 Жыл бұрын

Some basic database operations are very obtuse with Firestore. For example, it’s impossible to get count of documents in a collection without reading everything in that collection. Also chaining AND and OR queries is awkward. And of course, it doesn’t offer full text search.

@okie9025 Жыл бұрын

@@MultiZ100 also a HUGE HUGE problem is that you can't use any type of filtering based on reference objects (i.e. foreign keys) this is mostly a problem with NoSQL databases but basically it means any kind of deeply nested filtering is impossible without fetching every single document in a collection

@kgrez96 Жыл бұрын

WHO IS HE TALKING TO? LULE

@John-qt6qk 8 ай бұрын

I'll stick to Firebase they will get better in a short future

@imraninfrarote Жыл бұрын

0:14 Idk why but that pierced through my soul

@daydrivver2074 Жыл бұрын

Just recently lost my job... And your videos have been god sent to get on track would there ever be a discount on your platform? Kinda short on money and leave outside us (México) but definitely would pay for your content

@djdelinquent Жыл бұрын

your puns give life into my lungs in a world where it feels like i’m always suffocating

@angies2892 Жыл бұрын

I appreciate gamedev being a part of the conversation

@oscarmiranda9532 Жыл бұрын

Could you do a video about architecture, either tools or you know, the architecture itself

@erjiaxiao6577 Жыл бұрын

Hello Jeff, I'm curious about numba and pandas. Could you make 100 seconds videos about them? Thanks a lot! Your video is really awesome!!!

@sounishnath513 Жыл бұрын

@fireship - There’s one Fantastic DB I found it’s called RavenDB which is a document database but implement ACID strictly with multi master Nodes. If you make a video on it that would be great 😊

@oneito947 Жыл бұрын

What about yigabyte db

@nro337 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

@constructoraueshasoc.3607 Жыл бұрын

TNice tutorials is very easy to understanding.i have soft soft tutorial Tamil language .keep on each other's.greet job dudes

@jimmyalexanderpaezmoreno5217 Жыл бұрын

Have you already talked about docker and jenkins?, I'd like to learn about that.

@thatonefoxxy Жыл бұрын

to migrate off of Firestore you could write a script that downloads the Firestore data and then uploads or saves it somewhere else?

@ElementalCode Жыл бұрын

What about videogame focuses BaaS? Playfab and Gamesparks come to mind but have you tried / researched that can of worms?

@Rundik Жыл бұрын

Firebase is so widely used on mobile not because it's good, but because it's mandatory if you want notifications on android

@YuriG03042 Жыл бұрын

not really, there are notification alternatives but then your are forced to integrate several different techs when firebase handles everything for you with a single tech

@Rundik 10 ай бұрын

@@YuriG03042the only alternative to firebase is to display one notification constantly I think

@Whatever0704 Жыл бұрын

Have you done anything with back4app. Would love to see a video on that

@xavier2586 Жыл бұрын

I'm addicted to your videos

@CyrilKart Жыл бұрын

for small projects I use Notion as Database

@troyyoung8167 5 ай бұрын

Hi, I am looking for a database the same as Ninox (download version) but for pc. The functions I need are: be able to view a form next to the table and click and enter data in either the form or the table install time; relationship, for example between contacts list and job adds list. That’s about it. I’ve tried many, and found none. If you know one please let me know.

@KorhalKk Жыл бұрын

I wish I could add some portifolio projects to a hosting, but how do I know how much data I'll be using just to showcase a handful of simple projects?

@HiImKyle Жыл бұрын

I love the idea of Supabase ever since you did a video on it, but I can't ever get it to run with the default settings and the fact I can't have multiple projects is unhealthily aggressive for an open source project.

@paladyne Жыл бұрын

"Our Free tier gives you 2 free projects, but you can have as many paused projects as you want. Just pause and unpause them as needed." - from Supabase's pricing page at the bottom.

@vincentge1334 Жыл бұрын

😜As an Appwrite maintainer, I strongly encourage you to give it a shot. The self-deployment process, which is the only process we support right now, works with one command, and you're basically good to go. Multiple orgs with multiple projects and multiple admin tenants. While we still have some big features underworks, like a mongo adaptor, offline support, and more, still a good time to give us a try.