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Animation Is Under Appreciated

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Күн бұрын

The lackluster remakes of The Lion King and Aladdin got me thinking: I don't think we fully appreciate the incredible art of animation. So let's take a deep dive into that world and explore.
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@riverrun8535
@riverrun8535 5 жыл бұрын
Good to mention animators are generally the worst treated on a production team. They get paid less and typically have no benefits. They are not invited to parties or social events in most studios. You have to work overtime without being paid. I want animators to be treated better. They make the magic happened.
@Helaw0lf
@Helaw0lf 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yes indeed! Everyone ought to be treated on the same level and given recognition now and then. Otherwise, they may get up and abandon you (company). I imagine the work environment/culture is anti-socialist.
@emptyteacup8228
@emptyteacup8228 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@eoincampbell1584
@eoincampbell1584 5 жыл бұрын
Animators are basically actors in their own right, as they create and control the movements of characters to convey emotions in the story. As such they should be paid just as much as the actors.
@christmastiger
@christmastiger 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to be an animator for Disney movies growing up, thought it was a dream-killer when animation turned to computer graphics but I've realized over the years that being a Disney animator was one of the most stressful, taxing, and financially unfulfilling things you could do in that industry so probably dodged a bullet in the long run.
@thomasmurrell9394
@thomasmurrell9394 5 жыл бұрын
"the worst treated on a production team" What the heck ?! Where are you working ? What is the name of your studio where animators are not invited to parties and social events ? Working in the industry for ten years now, and i never seen any animator being treated like that. And directors and story boarders beside, they mostly do have the best salary.
@anonymous-hk6ge
@anonymous-hk6ge 5 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that animators are very underpaid and actors are often extremely overpaid
@minecraftkid50978
@minecraftkid50978 5 жыл бұрын
Uxbridge if your looking to work in animation I hope you don’t mind working a year at a time at random studios with unpaid overtime being the norm
@Yggdrasill8
@Yggdrasill8 5 жыл бұрын
@@minecraftkid50978 As a kid I thought animators made enough money to buy a mcmansion and a supercar. I was shocked to learn some of them get paid near minimum wage and work 12-16 hours!
@iExplainers
@iExplainers 5 жыл бұрын
@@minecraftkid50978 That needs to be changed. That's exactly what we are talking about here. Accepting this kind of treatment as a norm will make things even worse.
@3nertia
@3nertia 5 жыл бұрын
Which begs the question; why do they do it when they could potentially save money?
@iExplainers
@iExplainers 5 жыл бұрын
@@3nertia Because we have created this culture of giving most of the credit to the actors. The actor is just another artist working in a team of thousands of artists. Most animators and visual effect artists work 10 times as hard as the actor. Yes, the famous actor brings the audience to the theatres, but that doesn't mean that he/she should be overpaid while the post-production team is getting paid minimum wages. Sometimes those actors don't even bring the audience but still get paid in millions. What I'm saying is that all the artists should get respect, credit and a salary that they deserve.
@misseli1
@misseli1 5 жыл бұрын
I love and appreciate 3D movies and the hard work that goes into them, but I also want western 2D animation to make a big comeback
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
Stop motion has made a comeback
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
Klaus Is 2D Animation .
@ominouscrabmeat4764
@ominouscrabmeat4764 4 жыл бұрын
Disney isn't planning any new 2D movies, any time soon 😢 but luckily there are so many smaller studios making beautiful animations. Cartoon saloon is one of my favorites!
@cepahreinholt8710
@cepahreinholt8710 4 жыл бұрын
@@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 and it was awesome.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
@@cepahreinholt8710 it was awesome
@-dian-4208
@-dian-4208 5 жыл бұрын
I hate that animation is concidered a “genre” (especially pisses me off at the oscars) while it’s obviously a medium.
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 4 жыл бұрын
The oscars are not to be taken seriously to begin with. I don't know why everybody thinks being nominated for one of those worthless statues is somehow meaningful when there is literally a concept called 'oscar-bait'.
@elizabethiman7442
@elizabethiman7442 4 жыл бұрын
-Dian - Now I’m imagining animated characters competing against human actors for best actor/actress
@stvia
@stvia 4 жыл бұрын
I think animated movies can win best movie aswell. The best animated movie award is basically just extra tribute to them. They have different challenges they deserve an own award aswell
@Lauren_210
@Lauren_210 4 жыл бұрын
Eaxl Beauty and the Beast was only nominated. Silence of the Lambs won the award that year.
@derpi94
@derpi94 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, animation should have its own Oscars-esque ceremony (I know I'd watch it), with pretty much the same categories as the Oscars. That way, all sorts of animated films could be recognized.
@Artofizanagi
@Artofizanagi 5 жыл бұрын
Animation is so underrated is depressing. All that hard work for someone to go "meh that's just for kids" 😭 my soul hurts.
@orangusnake5517
@orangusnake5517 5 жыл бұрын
Artofizanagi I agree.... I love hand drawn animation ❤️
@misswolfy2000
@misswolfy2000 5 жыл бұрын
“meh just for kids” sAID NO ONE
@doro626
@doro626 5 жыл бұрын
The cartoons we made, weren't for children ~ Mel Blanc. They used to play that clip on USA/TBS/TNT when they showed looney tunes in the evenings back in the 90's, I think.
@antead4649
@antead4649 5 жыл бұрын
@@misswolfy2000 my classmates always say that
@creaturesoul4469
@creaturesoul4469 5 жыл бұрын
I have a good 15 anime/cartoons I could show people that are most definitely not for kids. I dare someone to have their small children watch Psycho Pass, even just the first episode is very intense.
@mechajay3358
@mechajay3358 5 жыл бұрын
_Animation is a Medium that needs to be Respected._
@coreylucas5346
@coreylucas5346 5 жыл бұрын
Alpha Jay 3.0 Say it loud for the people in the BACK.
@animalanomalies1601
@animalanomalies1601 5 жыл бұрын
@@ManubibiWalsh thats an opinion,not a fact. but I agree bojack is sometimes better than rick and morty but rick and morty has its own thing and they shouldn't be compared with eachother.
@theshyguy1580
@theshyguy1580 5 жыл бұрын
AMEN!!
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 5 жыл бұрын
@@animalanomalies1601 That's the ideal perspective on both shows!
@animalanomalies1601
@animalanomalies1601 5 жыл бұрын
@@kieranstark7213 what's that supposed to mean?
@mr.sinjin-smyth
@mr.sinjin-smyth 5 жыл бұрын
It's sad the ignorant "Animation is for kids" notion continues and seems so strong. *_Animation should be for ALL AGES_*
@RedFloyd469
@RedFloyd469 4 жыл бұрын
Western animation has somewhat created it's own tropes. Disney, Warner Brothers and Pixar have always heavily relied on selling kid's toys, meaning that their movies would have to be "kid-friendly". Disney in particular tried to push that trope to it's limits. No matter how mature the actual topic of an animated movie from these companies, their creations were always going to be associated with "kid-stuff". That is, of course, incredibly unfair to the vast amount of very mature animated movies. In Japan, animation is not considered childish in the slightest. So in comes dreamworks, literally adapting the biblical tale of the exodus, an incredibly bloody and dark tale of betrayal, tyranny, and loss of innocent lives. Sure is "immature" what with all them movin' pictures.
@creeperslayer241
@creeperslayer241 4 жыл бұрын
Considering some of the animated shows I've watched, such as Overlord and Devilman Crybaby(which I didnt actually enjoy but helps prove my point) that shit is definitely not kid friendly but definitely could never be achieved in live action. I mean, I get so sucked into these shows that I still have visible, physical reactions to some things that I see, but the same thing i look at in live action I have no reaction to, because it seems too fake. The blend of the fake and the real helps to announce the fake, but having everything not real, somehow makes you forget that none of it is real. Which makes no sense but I know you understand what I mean.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
@@RedFloyd469 What about Bojack Horseman, Ninja Scroll, Dark Knight Returns, Archer, Love Death and Robots, Castlevania, Akira, Princess Mononoke etc.?
@soip6710
@soip6710 4 жыл бұрын
If someone ever says that, direct them to a Rick and Morty or South Park episode.
@guillermoyac
@guillermoyac 4 жыл бұрын
Hellsing ultime, tokyo ghoul, Grave of the Fireflies, sausage party and other: let us to introduce ourselves
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 5 жыл бұрын
The animation category in awards exists because the film industry was so angry and insulted that an animated film did a better job than the "real movies"
@christopherwallace7903
@christopherwallace7903 5 жыл бұрын
Arcademan09 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Bravo! Well said! Exactly!
@justalostlocal
@justalostlocal 5 жыл бұрын
And still major awards only care about Disney, Pixar films. Yeah fuck Perfect Blue, A silent voice, Paprika, Girl who leaps through time, Summer wars, Paranoia Agent etc. LET'S NOMINATE BOSS BABY!
@mill2712
@mill2712 5 жыл бұрын
Even if animation was taken more seriously (Which let's face, it is coming but not at Japan's level yet.) American animation will still overtake major awards over foreign animation. Just as American live action over takes foreign live action nearly every time. There's a reason there is a best "Foreign film" category. Also Hollywood movies are simply too popular around the world for there to be a reason for them not to be included.
@Fafnd
@Fafnd 4 жыл бұрын
@@mill2712 and yet more and more American movies rely on overseas box-office money to make a profit when their domestic gross is less than the production cost.
@aerialpunk
@aerialpunk 4 жыл бұрын
@@justalostlocal Hey, I'm sure all those movies are great, but there's no need to knock Boss Baby here lol
@sebastianvarela5658
@sebastianvarela5658 5 жыл бұрын
“Animated movie = kids movie” I hate that misconception
@dr.insaneoiv
@dr.insaneoiv 5 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, pal. Everyone hates that. Well, time for Karen to take the kids to "Sausage Party" at the theater.
@diersteinjulien6773
@diersteinjulien6773 5 жыл бұрын
You can add "comics/mangas are for kids" and "video games are for kids" to the list of hared misconceptions
@theoxyscape7057
@theoxyscape7057 5 жыл бұрын
@@diersteinjulien6773 It sucks that people are allowed to literally lose their minds and sanity over celebrities, but just because we like to read comics and watch cartoons, we're immature.
@Nassit-Gnuoy
@Nassit-Gnuoy 5 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Varela A Lot of the people who think will watch some of the bs comedies, action films, and whatever Hollywood spews our every year.
@PipimiOden
@PipimiOden 5 жыл бұрын
I mean do people know of all the Japanese animated films out there? Some of them actually touched upon world war 2 and the bombings!
@chilk4508
@chilk4508 5 жыл бұрын
And I’m getting called immature by people because I watch silent voice Yeah a topic about depression, anxiety and suicide seems kid friendly
@Reckno64
@Reckno64 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand people at all sometimes. People just see animation and say it's "immature" cause its supposedly just for kids when that clearly ain't the truth. ESPECIALLY in A Silent Voice. That movie is incredibly mature, one of the most mature animated movies I've ever seen. Period. And now.....the studio that brought us that movie has been destroyed by arson, and 34 are dead. :( #PrayforKyoAni
@onepeace9632
@onepeace9632 5 жыл бұрын
Tell those people to watch Attack on Titan 😂
@lpflowrider8619
@lpflowrider8619 5 жыл бұрын
@@onepeace9632 Sadly that wont help either. Dark story with blood and political conspiracy doesnt equate mature to the sceptics. Dont get me wrong I think AoT is neato but it wont make them realize how much merit animation posseses. And neither will other animations with dark story and blood.
@fullmetalgamer6062
@fullmetalgamer6062 5 жыл бұрын
@@onepeace9632 Castlevania. Where there's cursing and kneeing opponents in the testicles.
@choco_beans6979
@choco_beans6979 5 жыл бұрын
John Smith that is literally my favorite movie the visuals story telling everything it's so beautiful and makes me really feel and understand the characters
@Eylrid
@Eylrid 4 жыл бұрын
Discounting animation is like discounting paintings if they're not photo realistic.
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 4 жыл бұрын
@Eaxl I that's more to do with Disney and WB wanting it to appeal only to children were as Ghibli marketed to whoever will watch.
@shadow_shine3578
@shadow_shine3578 3 жыл бұрын
That is a perfect example
@cletoreese3655
@cletoreese3655 3 жыл бұрын
I love this analogy
@Gemnist98
@Gemnist98 3 жыл бұрын
No one thinks like that about paintings anymore though, thanks to the rise of abstract art.
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 3 жыл бұрын
@@Gemnist98 There are still a ton of painting that are considered for adults. Abstract art is what let to graffiti and that’s definitely for adults
@misseli1
@misseli1 5 жыл бұрын
I remember being a kid, watching the directors' commentary on the Incredibles DVD and hearing Brad Bird bemoan how animation was underappreciated. And that was back in 2004.
@guilhermeviana8131
@guilhermeviana8131 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I remember being a kid back in 2004/2005, watching these commentaries, and I remember some animator or worker (probably Bird) talking how the artists took a whole month just to animate a scene where Bob puts his hand into his ripped blue uniform
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermeviana8131 actually every scene in the incredibles is hard to make
@badreality2
@badreality2 4 жыл бұрын
Animation has been underappreciated since the 1930's, when Walt Disney failed to win an Oscar for "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves". He was denied an Oscar, because of the artform he used to tell his story.
@timtam3730
@timtam3730 3 жыл бұрын
The most underrated animated film I can think of is the 1988 anime film Akira because my god there is so much detail in every shot of the film.
@raxzen-1610
@raxzen-1610 3 жыл бұрын
@@timtam3730 How is Akira underrated??
@ToonNick
@ToonNick 5 жыл бұрын
I heard some people demean Spiderverse by calling it just a cartoon, yet they enjoyed it. They said "Into the Spider-verse was good for a cartoon" Why can't they not have just enjoyed it??
@mycosat
@mycosat 5 жыл бұрын
ToonNick “you got something against cartoons”
@ToonNick
@ToonNick 5 жыл бұрын
@@mycosat Exactly my dude, that was probably for them lol
@x3no841
@x3no841 5 жыл бұрын
ToonNick Spiderverse was amazing. END OF STORY!
@ToonNick
@ToonNick 5 жыл бұрын
@@x3no841 I agree entirely 👌
@nicholetheotter1957
@nicholetheotter1957 5 жыл бұрын
ToonNick Because, animated means it’s for kids only...
@notsogrump625
@notsogrump625 5 жыл бұрын
I think that's why I'm so frustrated with Lion King 2019. I'm an artists myself, and i remember having the original VHS tape and seeing the behind the scenes stuff where the artists would sit in a room with REAL LIONS to practice drawing them with the Disney style. I appreciate the HELL out of that! Whoever is in charge rn really needs to bring back 2D movies because nobody can do color like Renaissance Disney did
@bartoldo5898
@bartoldo5898 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so do that yourself. What would you choose? Thousands of hours and a lot of effort or normal work?
@randominternetgirl1798
@randominternetgirl1798 5 жыл бұрын
@@bartoldo5898 If I was truly passionate about it, I wouldn't mind all that work to satisfy my audience
@notsogrump625
@notsogrump625 5 жыл бұрын
@@bartoldo5898 you shouldn't choose between 2D and CGI because you don't wanna do as much work. You should choose based on which one benefits your story more. And both still require hard work because CGI still require you to know what programs to use to make sure your 3D models don't look like something from the uncanny valley. I don't hate CGI animation. Pixars Toy Story was a breakthrough for animation as the first fully CGI animated film. But they used CGI because that's what worked for the story. The textures looked like plastic, but because it's about toys, it works. Meanwhile you have films like Dreamworks The Prince of Egypt that has a 2D style, but it lives up to the grandiose story that it tells. Even Disney's own Treasure Planet was able to mix the two together. And each of these movies have one thing in common-- they hold up. They don't feel dated (with the exception of the humans in toy story lol). These remakes sadly won't be able to live up to their animated source material. But that's not because the animation isn't good. It's because the love and care isn't the same
@bartoldo5898
@bartoldo5898 5 жыл бұрын
@@randominternetgirl1798 well that could be true. Btw there are still film made with that kind of effort and passion. The stop motion films. I'd say that the effort put in them is even more but I can't because I don't really know and I have never experienced doing that.
@notsogrump625
@notsogrump625 5 жыл бұрын
@@bartoldo5898 oh yeah for sure. I think it takes them one day of work to create one to three seconds of film. But they get to create their own world still. The live action remakes are just trying to make the animated scenes anew with humans/photo realistic characters
@cxnfxtti
@cxnfxtti 5 жыл бұрын
I want to be an animator when i grow up. I told my friend and she said “Why? Animated movies? Why not a movie actor?” I hated that. I grew up watching nothing but the lion kng. MY QUOTE ON MY YEARBOOK IS “yes, the past can hurt. But the way i see it, you can either run from it, or, learn from it.
@cheetotter33
@cheetotter33 5 жыл бұрын
SketchyBish You are such an inspiration and i also aspire to become an animator. Let’s hope in the future we’ll get more recognition for the work that’s done
@theoxyscape7057
@theoxyscape7057 4 жыл бұрын
Animators are basically actors if you think about it.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
@@cheetotter33 im also kinda dreamed being an animator (Mostly Background Animation) At Disney And Pixar .
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 4 жыл бұрын
You could always go into animated for video games seeing as how they are the literal crux of the medium
@angelfilms4886
@angelfilms4886 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I shared with classmates that I wanted to be a film director, and they seem to consider it as a pathetic goal....
@JaxBlade
@JaxBlade 5 жыл бұрын
I will share this masterpiece of a video wherever I can because this is so incredibly well done at showing why animation is not just for children or childish. Amazing work man.
@purplespectre
@purplespectre 5 жыл бұрын
+1000 respect.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@christopherwallace7903
@christopherwallace7903 5 жыл бұрын
JaxBlade Same here. My family thinks that animation is nothing more than a kids toy. I try to tell them that that can’t be further than the truth, but because it’s three against one (my dad doesn’t care, thanks Dad) and majority rules, I’m not taken seriously.
@emtee7138
@emtee7138 3 жыл бұрын
Respect: 100
@shafkatahmed5420
@shafkatahmed5420 2 жыл бұрын
@Tom Ffrench I guess they don't know there is a thing called Cartoon Nudity,and if animation is limitless,then everything bad and good can be exaggerated, If you know what I mean,everything that is considered adult can be easily depicted as cartoon.And that does not make it kid friendly
@MissJazzDaFunk
@MissJazzDaFunk 5 жыл бұрын
This is so true. People in animation should get more credit than they already get now. I hate the stigma of animation only for kids. It's limitless what we can do with animation.
@slingshot8071
@slingshot8071 5 жыл бұрын
It's a tiresome argument alright. But it's probably never going to disappear from entitled moviegoers, that won't bother the process animation goes through.
@42_comes_after_the_joke
@42_comes_after_the_joke 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I hate the stigma, where in fact most block busters today incorporated animation through VFX.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed animation has always been the ultimate portal to imagination and can more sophisticated than live action sometimes
@kyoyameganebereznoff
@kyoyameganebereznoff 5 жыл бұрын
MissJazzDaFunk It’s kind of a hilarious, ironic stigma considering how many talented people have to bust their butts to get the final product out. You’re telling me that a difficult, expensive, ambitious, artistic, and creative labor of love is just for kids just because it’s not live-action?
@giboi03
@giboi03 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's also very disrespectful to to all the people behind these films, especially when they put so much hard worl and effort into making it. These adults put their heart and soul into their work, and their lives are on the line with each project. When their fellow adults say "animation's just for kids", it's like these people's work stations are being torn apart, all their tools violently tossed off the edge as they're talked down to like children. Picture the dress-ripping scene from the Disney's original animated Cinderella film, but with everyday working men and women.
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 5 жыл бұрын
Animation is SO under appreciated. While tabloid shows, reality shows, tween sitcoms, and insurance commercials are WAY over appreciated.
@christopher.tomins2001
@christopher.tomins2001 5 жыл бұрын
Damn those insurance commercials, always stealing the attention from animated movies! lmao
@darkashtar
@darkashtar 5 жыл бұрын
I agree, as 38 year old I still love cartoons, anime, animated series, animated films and animated movies. I was a film student in college.
@blackbacon08
@blackbacon08 5 жыл бұрын
Geico commercials are pretty good tho
@darkashtar
@darkashtar 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackbacon08 I do have to agree, they can be be pretty funny. Then again I don't have cable I use streaming services and YT, but I also don't use twitter or Facebook, I'm asocial so I don't see the same commercials all the time.
@Launchpad05
@Launchpad05 5 жыл бұрын
@@blackbacon08 No they're not! They're stupid!
@abbyjentson2563
@abbyjentson2563 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who aspires to work in the animation industry, I really appreciate this video. So many people overlook animation and it seems our entire society (at least in america) tries to convince us that animation is only for kids. People forget that animation is an ART FORM. It is beyond the confines of one specific age group, or medium. For my whole life, I could never get the same amount of immersion from a live action movie as I could from an animated movie. As you said here- there is something stunningly human about animation. Something that connects with us in ways that live action never can. I can only hope that the attitude towards animation changes over the years! I would love to see a change where animation is made for everyone again, how it was originally intended.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
Someone did said "I've always appreciated animation more. I wish that more people stopped judging animation as a whole to due to trends or outdated standards."
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I only genuinely liked 2 live-action shows, those 2 are ALF(Paul Fusco is a good person), & That 70s Show. Animated stuff is just far more appealing to me because there's just so much you can do compared to live-action!
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeWreck What about puppetry even from Jim Henson?
@Mahsurik
@Mahsurik 3 жыл бұрын
Man! You said it! I find it immensely disappointing that this medium is still not taken seriously despite all the hard work put to changing that! I pray that in the future, animation would be seen as an endless way of bringing stories to life and not something that is strictly for kids, and another thing those people who judge others for something that is “not real” shouldn’t be allowed to talk to others since they put people who likes things that “aren’t real” beneath them. They honestly more childish than the medium they are claiming to be so. I’ve always loved animation, and I’ve always dreamt that if I have the power or money to make animated movies, I would consistently make animated movies that would change the landscape people have on animation, but sadly I don’t, but I am optimistic that it might change, eventually at least...
@Mahsurik
@Mahsurik 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnlindsey289 Yeah exactly, but if I’m going to be brutally honest with you... ( even though you might have already) you can’t really blame the general public for thinking that animation is for kids, as most of media that involves animation are geared more towards kids. Not to mention a lot of animated movies aren’t very good, hell now it’s getting more and more rare to come by good animated movies. Hell even Disney is not putting out films unless it gains them money. Which in turn effects the quality of most of their movies nowadays. It also doesn’t help that animated movies that are average at best. Like Illumination movies, are making more money than really good ones. So unless the industry stop treating animation the same way an average person would also treat it and start helping grow like it should, we would not stop seeing this art form get treated like this...
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's the stigma that "cartoons are for kids" that turns some people off from animation. Which is incredibly sad because animation truly is limitless
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
Well there's Bojack Horseman, Spawn TAS, Archer, Japanese animation like Ninja Scroll, Akira and more.
@silverscorpio24
@silverscorpio24 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnlindsey289 Good point, but what's the target demographic for those kinds of shows?
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
@@silverscorpio24 adults
@ExtremeWreck
@ExtremeWreck 3 жыл бұрын
Blame the 1970s, & 1980s American cartoons for that. Well, SOME of them anyway.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
@@ExtremeWreck Some animated movies done aimed not for kids were done in those times too
@emduquemack7514
@emduquemack7514 5 жыл бұрын
Animation is limitless, and everyone needs to stop thinking its constrained to children stories, also we need to stop thinking kids media as inherently a bad thing
@emduquemack7514
@emduquemack7514 5 жыл бұрын
@marianne mccrank indeed! Tbh, everytime someone uses the phrase "kids stuff/content" as an insult I feel is more like an insult for kids? Like why the hate on children all of the sudden
@oldzooklight5893
@oldzooklight5893 5 жыл бұрын
Sir, you earned my respect. I HATE adults who think children’s media is “stupid”.
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 жыл бұрын
"we need to stop thinking kids media as inherently a bad thing" *THANK YOU!!!*
@sunspotmill1291
@sunspotmill1291 5 жыл бұрын
@marianne mccrank I mean, Steven Universe is not really a kids show there, but I pretty much agree.
@bobtheball5384
@bobtheball5384 5 жыл бұрын
@@sunspotmill1291 What do you mean it's not a kids show? And btw another good example would be Avatar the last Airbender, I really loved the story telling when I was younger
@lucatoffa7163
@lucatoffa7163 5 жыл бұрын
Long story short: Reality is often disappointing, but animation, that puts a smile on my face. Edit: I wish I knew more than five people irl that would have liked this
@hassanfathi3972
@hassanfathi3972 5 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better.
@erikosterlund1997
@erikosterlund1997 5 жыл бұрын
Too true
@Steve-jobs-died-of-Ligma
@Steve-jobs-died-of-Ligma 5 жыл бұрын
Luca Toffa your edit is the truest thing
@lucatoffa7163
@lucatoffa7163 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'm crying because this post will probably be the thing I'll be most known for
@superroydude
@superroydude 5 жыл бұрын
Thanos would approve.
@thisaccounthasbeenabandone1564
@thisaccounthasbeenabandone1564 5 жыл бұрын
Animation is SO HARD. People take a look at it and think “Pffft, that mustn’t be THAT hard.” I spend hours on my trashy animation just to make it look good, I rarely even finish it. People who animate deserve to be praised as g o d s -
@NutpuffTheWolf
@NutpuffTheWolf 4 жыл бұрын
Literally 1.5 seconds can take at least 5 HOURS TO DO.
@galaxydeathskrill5607
@galaxydeathskrill5607 3 жыл бұрын
@@NutpuffTheWolf*High-piched tiny screaming* You have to be kidding O. O and i wonder why it takes years for animated movies xD
@NutpuffTheWolf
@NutpuffTheWolf 3 жыл бұрын
@@galaxydeathskrill5607 if you search up animation tutorials, they are VERY complicated and takes a lot of time and effort.
@lynxz-studios
@lynxz-studios 3 жыл бұрын
I used to HELLA under appreciate animation. Then I started FlipaClip, thinking “eh, how hard can it be?” and spent the next month on a crappy Mapleshade AMV Animation’s hard my dudes
@DL-idk
@DL-idk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm currently learning it and yes, it does take hours to produce a fraction of second even though I'm not working with any living things yet (just the basic shapes, some bouncing balls and things like falling leaves). Imagine doing it with a set of main characters and a crowd in the background, and the background itself with blowing winds and perhaps hundreds of falling leaves... It's daunting.
@jillustration
@jillustration 4 жыл бұрын
Professional Animator here ✋🏼 just felt like saying „thank you“ for this little love letter to the craft I love, and helping spread the appreciation for this incredible artform and the crazy people who get into this totally under appreciated and incredibly difficult profession. Truly, thank you ♥️
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for your hard work!
@NutpuffTheWolf
@NutpuffTheWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I love your work!
@Clifford2000Fan
@Clifford2000Fan 2 ай бұрын
@@CenterRow Your voice reminds me so much of Cam Clarke.
@DemetriosLevi
@DemetriosLevi 5 жыл бұрын
I think 2D animation is the most under appreciated. Disney and other companies completely ditched it in favor of 3D (as it's cheaper and "faster" depending on how detailed). I love anime but I really miss the classic animation like the Iron Giant or the Road to El Dorado. I should just be happy that people are still doing stop motion though; I've been hard pressed to find a stop motion I didn't like
@Moontjuhhhh
@Moontjuhhhh 5 жыл бұрын
I love the older style Disney animation like The Lion King. I hope they will make one like this again.
@DracosKasurani
@DracosKasurani 5 жыл бұрын
@Nes Ally Well also must of the animator in japan are also underpaid which explain why many japenese left after 3 years even if they like their job. I do like many anime but I can understand why they are moving into 2d CGI.
@retromemories8522
@retromemories8522 5 жыл бұрын
Just rewatched The Secret of NIMH this week. Something I hadn't really noticed before was how much personality and detail that was put into every scene.
@NilsTFK
@NilsTFK 5 жыл бұрын
it's not really cheaper nor is it faster but 2D animation is still under appreciated yes
@ginandromeda1618
@ginandromeda1618 5 жыл бұрын
@ra You should take in account that these two are 10 years apart, inflation could have some influence
@copperdog
@copperdog 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video. I hate that animation is looked as “that kids stuff” when it’s much much more than that
@DemonicRemption
@DemonicRemption 5 жыл бұрын
paquete G Yeah when the only place(to my knowledge) where to can find animation that spans across multiple genres is Japan, we've got a problem...
@SirIkeMedia
@SirIkeMedia 5 жыл бұрын
Animation was never meant for kids.
@omniscientomnipresent5500
@omniscientomnipresent5500 5 жыл бұрын
@@SirIkeMedia true words have been spoken !
@otter3425
@otter3425 5 жыл бұрын
@@SirIkeMedia animation can be anything and for everyone That's what makes it special
@IGamingStation
@IGamingStation 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough, we have shows like Family Guy, Squidbillies, American Dad, Bob's Burgers, and even the newly made Season 3 of Young Justice. Yep, definitely made for kids, right? Lmao, I hate ignorant people, still stuck with that stupid 80's mentality.
@lizsmith1018
@lizsmith1018 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s talk about claymation and live action for a moment. We are gonna compare a simple action: a character flipping into a scene. Live action: the actor or stunt double is put into harnesses in front of a blue/green screen. Director calls action, and the harness moves with them as they do the flip. Done in an hour, at the least. Claymation: each frame is one picture, and each picture is taken after each adjustment of the “puppet”. If they want the facial expression to change at any point, they have to replace the head or sometimes the whole “puppet” to get the one with the different facial expression. They use thin wires to hold it up so it won’t show in the picture. Someone, somewhere, is painting up the background that will be shown on the green screen. To get a split second shot, it probably takes the whole day, not including the animation of the background. So, yes, animation is underrated.
@shadow_shine3578
@shadow_shine3578 3 жыл бұрын
Its insanely hard
@fakename3440
@fakename3440 3 жыл бұрын
I asked my mom to watch Coraline with me. At the beginning she was all like "Isn't this for 5 year olds?" And then in the middle of the movie she was very scared and my sister and I just enjoyed watching it. In the end, she said "Why can't you just watch normal things for once?" She doesn't even realise how much time and effort people spent on these stop-motion films and yet she calls it strange and weird.
@lizsmith1018
@lizsmith1018 3 жыл бұрын
Shæms “why can’t you watch normal things?” was my moms reaction as well haha! But when I mentioned the animation she said “that’s what makes it creepier, I thought I was one of the little puppets on the set being moved around” so I guess in a way she still appreciated the eerie and wistful way they animated the clay puppets and sets
@DL-idk
@DL-idk 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and nobody will get hurt in the process. I mean, there could be accidents and with real actors it's always a little bit dangerous to get those action scenes.
@lizsmith1018
@lizsmith1018 3 жыл бұрын
@alexander shawn I still love live action, I’m just mad animation is so under-appreciated in comparison even though for most animations there’s a lot more work out into it
@Deborah5000
@Deborah5000 5 жыл бұрын
The power of animation is that it makes it look dreamlike, a fairytale land without limits. The real life version makes the world feel limited because we know and understand that world a lot better. A villain can look crazy and creepy but still good designed in the animation but in real life the design is limited because it is not appealing to have a cartoonish villain in a real life movie.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
real life? you mean live action
@wsphh2692
@wsphh2692 5 жыл бұрын
ive tried animating before and jesus christ its so difficult and requires a ton of motivation- mega respect to all animators
@kobejva
@kobejva 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao not only that but you have to be able to draw well which takes a whole extra couple years to perfect
@digitaldazzle5836
@digitaldazzle5836 5 жыл бұрын
Blasphemous moron. Keep my Lords holy name out of your foul mouth.
@crownclowncreations
@crownclowncreations 5 жыл бұрын
Hand-drawn frame by frame animation is indeed hard and very time consuming, but seeing your own drawings and characters come to life, is all the reward I need! - An aspiring animator
@TheCapedChristian
@TheCapedChristian 5 жыл бұрын
Yup
@wsphh2692
@wsphh2692 5 жыл бұрын
Digital Dazzle Photography rot in heck
@classiccreepmusic1189
@classiccreepmusic1189 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you can stop the hand-drawn disney movies at any minute and you know how the characters feel because of their facial expression. When you stop the new lion king at any minute you got an animal documentation in HDR-Rendering.
@speckles_cheetah4307
@speckles_cheetah4307 5 жыл бұрын
This is so 100% true
@miimiiandco
@miimiiandco 4 жыл бұрын
The point of the new Lion King was to make it look like a documentary. why
@BrennanJ96
@BrennanJ96 5 жыл бұрын
The Prince of Egypt slaps so hard, totally under appreciated
@marybach9925
@marybach9925 4 жыл бұрын
Podcast - SørenCast Z the Mariah/Whitney version is the worse version I said what I said
@BratzRockAngels
@BratzRockAngels 3 жыл бұрын
It's one of the greatest animated movies ever in my opinion.
@galaxystudios370
@galaxystudios370 3 жыл бұрын
It’s straight up THE BEST animated movie ever made in my opinion.
@sirclassicalhou3650
@sirclassicalhou3650 3 жыл бұрын
You nailed it here! And just like Walt Disney himself said “You’re dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up anyway.”
@MrJoelerjoeler
@MrJoelerjoeler 5 жыл бұрын
Especially the amount of time, creative design, and imagination that goes into creating every frame. truly underappreciated for sure.
@kieranstark7213
@kieranstark7213 5 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah!! We need to make the world a much, much, much better place than this!!!
@cypher7898
@cypher7898 5 жыл бұрын
Watch akira
@Ozzymandias493
@Ozzymandias493 5 жыл бұрын
And watch kimba the white lion too
@cypher7898
@cypher7898 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ozzymandias493 holy crap my aunt use to play that on our dvd when i was a kid and ik its old but she had them on dvd that show was awesome
@Secret_Moon
@Secret_Moon 5 жыл бұрын
Animation is underappreciated compared to live action? Hah, good joke! Wait, seriously? Who are you people?
@kuromiLayfe
@kuromiLayfe 5 жыл бұрын
me at 14 : i want to make an animation like lion king me now at 31: i have finished drawing a sunrise
@randomcatmeow1394
@randomcatmeow1394 5 жыл бұрын
Truly astounding achievement
@branfordbarnes8877
@branfordbarnes8877 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why animated movies and tv shows made me feel more emotion than live action. Animation somehow brings out the inner feelings of a person that can be difficult to portray, ironically, with actual people.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
What about puppetry?
@branfordbarnes8877
@branfordbarnes8877 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnlindsey289 I think that puppetry has the same effect. Maybe this is because they can mimic animation by being manipulated in doing whatever emotion needs to be expressed.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
@@branfordbarnes8877 Well good examples include Dark Crystal franchise, Muppets, Dinosaurs and more
@ClaudetteVioletta
@ClaudetteVioletta 2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@nicolle2126
@nicolle2126 5 жыл бұрын
Idk how many people here watch tv cartoons regularly but if you wanna see some of the best things in animation right now, watch The Wonderful World Of Gumball. The production team is able to seamlessly blend so many styles of animation and film making into each 11-minute episode and they're able to push so many boundaries with the wonderfully designed characters and worlds they've created.
@beachballssideaccount
@beachballssideaccount 5 жыл бұрын
Gumball is in my top three favourite cartoons. I love how well the different mediums blend together.
@Randomdudefromtheinternet
@Randomdudefromtheinternet 5 жыл бұрын
"Reality is often disappointing-" Rick Harrison :P
@garfieldsenpai
@garfieldsenpai 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to fucking comment that.
@Nothin2seehere-e4z
@Nothin2seehere-e4z 5 жыл бұрын
And it's boring compare to non realism.
@kennedylareign
@kennedylareign 5 жыл бұрын
This video is fantastic. Adults limit animation to being just for children, and it’s not at all fair to the animators, voice actors, and screenwriters. Animation is limited only to your imagination, and not many people can appreciate that.
@mlheureux2663
@mlheureux2663 5 жыл бұрын
Only speaking by experience, it mostly teenagers and young adults who are trying to proves that that they are adults who say animation is for kids. Then, around the age of 25-30 nowadays, they realize being adults dont mean having an adult body or doing adult things, but being mature and sage of mind, and being able to take your responsibilities firmly with your hands.
@mlheureux2663
@mlheureux2663 5 жыл бұрын
the missing link Yeah. I was talking with a college professor not long ago and she was comparing her class to a kindergarten. “I have to track attendance now, i din’t have to do that 10 years ago” she told me. We dont transmit true values and discipline to our kids anymore and they grow into entitled kings-child.
@faithrains4203
@faithrains4203 5 жыл бұрын
Expect for the emoji movie
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 жыл бұрын
@@mlheureux2663 Only speaking from my own experience, I have several middle-aged and elderly friends and family who refuse to even watch animated movies because "it's a cartoon." One of which absolutely adored the live action Beauty and the Beast. I asked her if she'd seen the original and she didn't even want to try it. Another one, after coming along to the theater more than once just because the rest of the family was going, she admitted that she loved Home and The Croods "despite the fact that they're a cartoons."
@TheTraveler980
@TheTraveler980 5 жыл бұрын
You'd think that with the existence of shows such as Family Guy, Bob's Burgers, and especially South Park... that they would get the hint about your statement.
@Kitinelli
@Kitinelli 4 жыл бұрын
Someone asked me what my favourite movie was the other day and for some reason it didn’t even come to mind to consider that animated movies could be in that category even though that’s where my favourites all are.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly, it's weird how often we can disregard it.
@aerialpunk
@aerialpunk 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting. This made me rethink my favourite movies for a sec, haha (though it didn't change and they are still all live action ones). Just curious,did your list of favourites change at all after realizing this? Probably half of my favourite TV shows are animated though, and I've never thought twice about that, despite the weird looks I've gotten sometimes, or the handful of times I've actually had to defend those choices to other adults.
@Kitinelli
@Kitinelli 4 жыл бұрын
aerialpunk I don’t really have a favourite movie I just have a group of movies I enjoy more than others. I quite like Hackshaw Ridge, and I quite like spirited away. But I don’t know if those are my favourite movies. The movie I have loved for the longest time would be the lion king though, spent a significant amount of my childhood watching it and performed it as a musical in high school. I have to agree with you on animated tv though, most of my favourites are definitely animated there.
@Moonstar79
@Moonstar79 4 жыл бұрын
Laika, by the way, is *criminally* underappreciated and it breaks my heart more than you can know that they're making less and less money off of their films. People. Go see stop motion in theater. Please.
@tokofukawaisbestgirl1220
@tokofukawaisbestgirl1220 3 жыл бұрын
FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO THINKS LAIKA IS EXTREMELY UNDERRATED 😭😭
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 3 жыл бұрын
I Get Scared By Watching Coraline
@trainsandmore2319
@trainsandmore2319 2 жыл бұрын
Laika should just work with Netflix so that people can actually see those films instead of Laika seeing those films flop at the box office.
@oathgarde6641
@oathgarde6641 5 жыл бұрын
technically, the new Lion King should be classified as "animation" rather than "Live Action" since all animals are animated.
@nerasomnia
@nerasomnia 5 жыл бұрын
People calling the Lion King remake "live action" got me peeved. The animators deserve more credit than that because animating a cartoony CGI film is not nearly as difficult as animating a photorealistic CGI film.
@nerasomnia
@nerasomnia 5 жыл бұрын
KEN You may have misunderstood "cartoony" as me saying 2D animation. I was solely talking about 3D animation and find that realism is the hardest to perfect in the realm of 3D animation because you have to take into account every crease and fur particle under even the slightest movement.
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 жыл бұрын
I can't even bring myself to call it live action, and it irks me when other people do. I call it *"The Lion King remake"* I mean, did they bring _actual_ tamed lions and meerkats and warthogs and baboons and hornbills onto a set and have an animal handler record _real_ animal actors moving around in front of a camera?
@ThexDynastxQueen
@ThexDynastxQueen 5 жыл бұрын
The only Live Action Lion King is the musical which despite the limits of reality is GORGEOUS. I know show tickets are more expensive especially good seats but if you can see it at least once DO IT (btw get an aisle seat, trust me!). How Disney made that 20 year old beautiful juggernaut emulate the film so well yet also made this drab mess is irritating.
@stealthbrandon
@stealthbrandon 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChaosRayZero Well possibly if you have the animal walk infront of the screen then blend it with a 3D lion yeah you can use a mixture of both and 3D scanners is definately a choice
@VictoriaPutinski
@VictoriaPutinski 5 жыл бұрын
It's funny because ADULTS create KID'S movies. I work at Mercury Filmworks (A Disney studio that makes Tangled and Lion Guard), and the amount of work that goes into any animated product is RIDICULOUS. It makes me more fully appreciate every piece of animation I have ever seen.
@radiobread338
@radiobread338 5 жыл бұрын
Victoria Putinski hey! That’s pretty cool!
@shay2396
@shay2396 5 жыл бұрын
Victoria Putinski you’re very talented!
@VictoriaPutinski
@VictoriaPutinski 5 жыл бұрын
@@shay2396 Thank you so much!
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229
@lavendermarshmallowplant3229 5 жыл бұрын
Nice !
@pootietheplug2998
@pootietheplug2998 5 жыл бұрын
oh my gosh! When I read you worked at Mercury Filmworks I was soo happy! I love their shows (especially how they're so beautifully animated) and aspire to work there one day. How's your experience there, if I may ask?
@pennymcsquee5584
@pennymcsquee5584 3 жыл бұрын
I’m studying traditional 2D animation and I have to say it is EXTREMELY difficult We have to greatly respect the work of those people who made such masterpieces
@emeralddarkness
@emeralddarkness 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you made this. Any animation is a staggering amount of work from an amazing amount of talented people, and back in the early days was seen as an art form for everyone, but as time went on and prices changed it became "just for kids" because it's inherently "less" than live action, when in truth all it is is different. I want to go into animation, and I'm glad people are starting to see it for the art it is again.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@joshguest1104
@joshguest1104 5 жыл бұрын
God, I just adore Emperor's new groove.. It's just wonderfully energetic
@Helaw0lf
@Helaw0lf 5 жыл бұрын
Good of you to mention it. I should go look it up online.
@krystofdayne
@krystofdayne 5 жыл бұрын
@@Helaw0lf Yeah you really should, it's awesome. Probably my favorite underrated Disney movie ever
@blackham7
@blackham7 5 жыл бұрын
I remember the Disney show it had a catchy intro
@penelopegreene
@penelopegreene 5 жыл бұрын
You are win!
@Moontjuhhhh
@Moontjuhhhh 5 жыл бұрын
Such an underrated movie. Watched it again a few months ago, it's hilarious!
@helenarosno
@helenarosno 5 жыл бұрын
Me: "Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse is my favorite Spider-Man movie." Friend: "But, isn't that animated?" Me: -.-
@annymus4502
@annymus4502 5 жыл бұрын
Helena Rosno Same!
@josephabrams8529
@josephabrams8529 5 жыл бұрын
I had the same reaction after people told me Far From Home was the best Spider man movie. I ask them about Spider-Verse and they say it doesn’t count because it’s animated. Weak sauce. Far From Home was good, but it ain’t on Spider Verse’s level.
@annymus4502
@annymus4502 5 жыл бұрын
Joseph Abrams The truth is sometimes disappointing :(
@thevgmlover
@thevgmlover 5 жыл бұрын
Grab your friend by the collar, and say "YOU'RE GODDAMN RIGHT, IT IS!!!"
@jeremycurle6880
@jeremycurle6880 5 жыл бұрын
literally same! i told my friends that spider-verse is my favorite superhero movie of all time and they pointed and laughed and made fun of me. because it's animated it doesn't count? the fact it's animated makes it 10x more creative, energetic and comic-y than 99% of live action superhero movies!
@fudgalicious
@fudgalicious 3 жыл бұрын
I happen to be an aspiring animator and my parents never really understood how difficult animation was until I actually started doing it myself. Your video shows everyone that it IS difficult and definitely deserves much more appreciation than it currently does. I sincerely thank you for trying to open the world's eyes
@theroaringroxyretiredproje9510
@theroaringroxyretiredproje9510 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes. I agree. Thank you. Animation has been so looked down upon for years, it needs to finally be respected.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
Yup animation and puppetry
@shineinouzen7412
@shineinouzen7412 5 жыл бұрын
I want Disney to go back to beautiful 2D animation. But if by some holy miracle they did, the General audiences won’t pay to go see it.
@Helaw0lf
@Helaw0lf 5 жыл бұрын
I would go if I had a family started and did not suffer from capitalism's blight on job seeking when younger. Not just Disney, but other companies and independents alike.
@shamisosango8758
@shamisosango8758 5 жыл бұрын
They tried to bring 2D back with the Princess and the Frog. Not a lot of people went to watch it and it didn't bring in athe big bucks. Disney only seems to care about money, and easy money at that. I think that's why we won't ever be seeing a return to Animation on the big screen.
@shineinouzen7412
@shineinouzen7412 5 жыл бұрын
UltimateGeek No they won’t. They went back to 2D for like 3 movies, and they flopped at the box office. That may be because the movies weren’t that great, or maybe their advertising sucked, but Disney cares about numbers more than anything. Those 3 numbers failed, and they haven’t gone back to 2D since.
@Mavis847
@Mavis847 5 жыл бұрын
Don't see why you would want that. 3D animation looks amazing and can be just as creative.
@starbunny7301
@starbunny7301 5 жыл бұрын
Tbh Princess and the frog is actually favourite Disney movie. I'm really disappointed that the Disney 2D animation doesn't exist anymore and I feel like as the years have gone on Disney has been loosing it's spirit 😔 I agree with you that we desperately need a miracle bc these live action films aren't enough 😢
@FlashQuatsch
@FlashQuatsch 5 жыл бұрын
If someone says they don't watch cartoons or animation: people don't mind. If someone says they don't watch live action: surprised pikachu face
@dickgori2623
@dickgori2623 5 жыл бұрын
I pretty much only watch the MCU movies in terms of live action, people think I'm wierd for that, but holy shit if the justice league animated movies aren't a million times better than the live action one.
@dickgori2623
@dickgori2623 5 жыл бұрын
@@darkfyraproductions7958 Under the red hood and Year one were fire :D Also got no idea how green lantern could fail as a movie when they could have just done First Flight.
@troyjardine5850
@troyjardine5850 5 жыл бұрын
It's hard to call most live action films "live action" anymore, when between 40% to 90% of said films are made utilizing CGI!
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 5 жыл бұрын
@@troyjardine5850 exactly
@nerasomnia
@nerasomnia 5 жыл бұрын
I've never been as drawn to live actions as I have to animations. It's definitely an unpopular opinion to have my favorite movie spots filled up by animated films. Animation is my guilty pleasure. Can't help it.
@DarkandTwisted
@DarkandTwisted 5 жыл бұрын
This was beautifully done. It really shows how much us animators work our asses off. I am a one-man team, and it takes a tremendous amount of work, but I love every second of it. Others just don't understand how hard we work, yet never get the pay that we deserve. Anyways....nice job on this video. 🙌
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
In 5 years the Lion King remake will age like milk where the original ages like a fine wine
@explodingdynamite7319
@explodingdynamite7319 3 жыл бұрын
🥛
@BovineDesigns
@BovineDesigns 5 жыл бұрын
(After the remake) Rotten Tomatoes: "Look how far animation has progressed!" Literally Everyone: "Please die."
@BookwormCowboy
@BookwormCowboy 5 жыл бұрын
MOOFAMDEEZ It scored a 56 on rotten tomatoes which is terrible.
@2phonebabykeem913
@2phonebabykeem913 5 жыл бұрын
MOOFAMDEEZ what would be the correct terminology be for the remake? it’s not all CGI because it’s a real set
@dathvader6104
@dathvader6104 5 жыл бұрын
*figuratively everyone, because I didn't say "Please die."
@salt6500
@salt6500 5 жыл бұрын
*technology. could you do the 2019 movie with tech from 1994? hell no. that’s why it HAS progressed.
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 5 жыл бұрын
Doing animation is a very hard work and time consuming , yet the animator always receive less payment than a voice actor .
@joep2999
@joep2999 5 жыл бұрын
It's a matter of demand. If there was only one guy who could draw in the Disney style, you can bet your bottom dollar he'd be better paid than the top five actors combined.
@nestoons4539
@nestoons4539 5 жыл бұрын
kampfer91 It’s because usually there are plenty of good animators. But most of the time you can’t replace a voice actor.
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 5 жыл бұрын
@@nestoons4539 In my experience though , there is no shortage of voice actor but currently people don't apply for animator ( In Japan at least ) because harsh working condition and low payment . People start to shift to 3D/2D hybrid art to save money and time....
@nestoons4539
@nestoons4539 5 жыл бұрын
kampfer91 I meant that a voice actor has a distinct voice that usually can’t be replaced, but with an animator there is almost always someone else who can draw and animate nearly identically.
@kampfer91
@kampfer91 5 жыл бұрын
@@nestoons4539 The same goes for the animator , during the animation process there is the lead animator who responsible for the art , it is his / her work that determine how the show looks like and if the art looks good enough it will be a hit , you can't really copy 100 % , we do something called tracing from the outline he/she draw . Voice actors may have unique voice but the thing is there are many of them available for the job , like so many unlike animator job which only a few people actually attend college just to learn how to do animation . Voice actor usually hired near the end , they contribute like 10 % of the work while the animator did the majority of the show and if the lead animator take a sick leave they gonna delay it . I am not gonna deny voice actor important work of making personality out of a char but when theirs payment is like 10X more than animators , only few want to be the animator in Japan....
@melissacontero4613
@melissacontero4613 5 жыл бұрын
I wish animators were treated respect and recognition they deserve.
@CaptainCretaceous91
@CaptainCretaceous91 2 жыл бұрын
At least we treat them with respect, right?
@MiotaLee
@MiotaLee 5 жыл бұрын
In psychology and observation of child development specifically relating to art... I feel like, as an artist, I can say this with at least some modicum of confidence... A child, innocent and full of life, views the world with open eyes and sees the beauty and the vibrancy of the world. You look at a child's drawings and there are strong saturated colors. A vivid blue sky, a beaming yellow sun, green trees and grass... you name it. When we grow up and learn to draw more intricate drawings and we base it more and more on reality, instead of the impression we get of reality... When you look at these fantastical, vibrant animated movies you get to see what a child sees. Strong vibrant colors and expressive body language and facial mimicry. When you look at the live action rendition of the same movie, you can't help but to see how cold and dim the world looks like in comparison.
@tims.2717
@tims.2717 5 жыл бұрын
Animation in its essence should be caricature, or an exaggeration of reality.
@ultgamercw6759
@ultgamercw6759 5 жыл бұрын
I cringe every time I hear the words "animation is just for kids" for many reasons but mostly because I understand how much work has to go into every frame of the film. I also know that some of the best scenes in cinematic history are from animated films. The first film ever to make me understand how movies could make you feel sympathy for the characters was in fact Pixar's up. I was very young when I first watched it. Before that I had only watched mostly funny films that I would laugh at. Up changed how I saw movies forever and although other films both live action and animated have also given me experience's like it up has always remined an important lesson for me about why animation is so important.
@erufailon4723
@erufailon4723 5 жыл бұрын
@@darkfyraproductions7958 At least video games have lost much of that stigma recently - very mature games dominate the best-seller lists and gaming is quickly becoming mainstream, whereas with animation...
@ColorfulMusicNeko
@ColorfulMusicNeko 5 жыл бұрын
Anime? Dude, several shows have made me cry. I swear to GOD if someone even attempts to tell me "Anime is just Asian cartoons and cartoons are for kids" I will force them to watch Devilman: Crybaby or, even better, Banana Fish. (Banana Fish is 100% R rated, would not recommend for immature viewers.)
@marshallemmet1366
@marshallemmet1366 5 жыл бұрын
Akira: not for kids, and is referenced literally everywhere.
@marshallemmet1366
@marshallemmet1366 5 жыл бұрын
Jojo’s bizarre adventure, and death note are some of my favorite shows.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 4 жыл бұрын
What about puppetry? i mean Dark Crystal franchise, Labyrinth, Dinosaurs, Meet The Feebles and more should be proof puppetry isn't just for kids
@dirkdiggler8093
@dirkdiggler8093 5 жыл бұрын
Ironic, artificial moving pictures have more soul to them than most films in Hollywood produced today.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I despise celebrities who are given god status, when they are only meant to entertain us and that’s it.
@ryaaaaaaaan7115
@ryaaaaaaaan7115 5 жыл бұрын
AndreNitro X1000 I don’t understand what you mean, who are you talking about? Can you give me an example?
@alanandrade2083
@alanandrade2083 5 жыл бұрын
RyanHardt *insert celebrity name here* has spoken out against Trump. They’re just celebrities and people take their political beliefs seriously when they don’t explain a thing and repeat the same mimicked garbage over and over again. And the media applauds it so the viewers follow suit with the agenda. But when someone voices the “unpopular opinion” (there are popular opinions that are just politically incorrect and shameful to the dumb masses), they are ostracized when they actually do the Brave thing of standing against the trends. What the OP was saying was that we give way too much validity to the celebrities and call them Brave for something that is not difficult to say because it’s expected to be said. Even if you’re against trump, you shouldn’t take or give validity to a celebrity who pulling statements out of their asses without debating contrasting opinions. Celebrities say stuff outside of their realm of expertise and then not even debate or back up their points. It’s a form of pandering and I’m sure you’ve seen it.
@ryaaaaaaaan7115
@ryaaaaaaaan7115 5 жыл бұрын
Inxanity But what he’s saying has nothing to do with what the comment said. What does the god tier that celebrities are given have to do with Hollywood movies not having soul?
@alanandrade2083
@alanandrade2083 5 жыл бұрын
RyanHardt Well, I get what you’re saying as well. It’s a bit of a tangent, but it still has to do with the Western culture. I might even compare all this despise for true art to the increasing degeneracy of the liberal West. Even though animation is amazing, we disrespect it. All the respect goes to the undeserving live action acting. As a result, we worship the faces, or the actors, when they played only a part of the entire creative process. If we gave the deserved respect to animation, we’d give the the animators and creators most of the credit because they’ve done most of the work. However, in movies, the layman will only give credit to the actors, but not the directors, musicians, and creators. There is a connection between all these things we talk about. Actors are worshipped because live action movies are overhyped. Live action movies are overrated because animation is disrespected. Animation is disrespected because society is degeneracy right now. Society is degeneracy because... I don’t wanna explain that. Let’s just say we give ourselves too much liberty so we forgot what really got us here and what is really important in life. Taking that idea, it makes sense why the west is admiring actors (who are just people like everyone else and Keanu Reeves is an example of the good actor who doesn’t get power hungry) and not admiring animation (making ugly art [unlike Japan] or making the good Western art seem childish when it is a form that anyone should enjoy in respecting the countless months/years of effort behind it). Non-Japanese animation can be good, but if it’s not Disney/Pixar, the art style isn’t going to be beautiful. Look at the Anime that gets so much respect. There is so much beauty in the art and they can make ugly art but beauty is the goal. At the same time, Japanese don’t idolize celebrities like Westerners do to the Kardashians or the royal family or the A list celebrities or the online personalities. That stuff that we do is disgusting. But in Japan, even subways have Anime in their advertisements. The respect for their hardworking artists is, well, respectable.
@buttfacemgeee9593
@buttfacemgeee9593 5 жыл бұрын
All forms of animation, rather 2D or CGI or stop motion; deserve respect.
@joeyjerry1586
@joeyjerry1586 3 жыл бұрын
Buttface Mgeee, yet most people in this comment section only like 2D. That isn’t respecting animation. That is ‘We don’t care Pixar and Dreamworks and Disney spent 4 years creating these 3D movies. We’re just going to get trapped in nostalgia and only like movies that are 2D even if the story sucks’. Now, there’s nothing wrong with preferring 2D. What is wrong is dissing 3D like it’s lazy or soulless.
@joeyjerry1586
@joeyjerry1586 3 жыл бұрын
@Tom Ffrench, you know, part of me kind of wants Disney to continue making 2D animated movies, which will hopefully be bad so people can realize 2D isn’t perfect and 3D needs praise
@Joshua_N-A
@Joshua_N-A 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to see it as a medium instead of genre.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
What about puppetry?
@gracecarter5339
@gracecarter5339 3 жыл бұрын
@Johnlindsey289 That’s a different thing entirely
@ginandromeda1618
@ginandromeda1618 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being an animator who loves their job, who worked hard to pay their studies and you have finally graduated. You're ambitious about all things animation and you wish to be on a major project. But then you end up working on some cash grab shit like the Emoji Movie.
@wokk9543
@wokk9543 3 жыл бұрын
man when i was younger i thought the emoi movie was good
@Imperials3nate
@Imperials3nate Жыл бұрын
@@wokk9543 Well you were young; you couldn't tell at that time.
@sleepfgc
@sleepfgc 5 жыл бұрын
Hirohiko Araki (author of JoJo) wrote in his book that when he draws there has to be a balance between realism and symbolism. Draw the most important object with more detail but tone it down for the non important things. It's another concept that's exclusive to animation and drawings, because that balance is lost when you go live action. If you slap everything with realism like in the Lion King you get animals that just seem off and even nightmare fuel like Pumba.
@sephikong8323
@sephikong8323 5 жыл бұрын
I giggled when reading this comment because it reminds me of one of my friends who constantly uses this book as an example or to explain narration to others, so I instantly imagined him talking and randomly taking the book out of his bag to explain to us the teachings of Araki
@mascotwithadinosaur9353
@mascotwithadinosaur9353 5 жыл бұрын
Video games are also entirely animated and idk why ppl don't see that.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, good point, wish I would have included that.
@mascotwithadinosaur9353
@mascotwithadinosaur9353 5 жыл бұрын
@@CenterRow Yeah,I've seen many videos about how animation is an art (which is something I totally agree with, considering I wanna be an animator myself) but not a single one of them has video games LIKE WHAT?WHY? Nevertheless,this is a really good video and I feel like you already touched on why animation is great so the fact that it doesn't include video games is a bit of a nitpick.
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of games are moving towards photorealism in visuals and also have more realistic animations. Sometimes I find this change completely counterintuitive and innapropriate to the type of game that adopts this approach.
@mascotwithadinosaur9353
@mascotwithadinosaur9353 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scroteydada Well yeah but I think games kinda have an excuse for photorealism. It's kind of a sign that you're supposed to take this game super seriously and if not,it still helps build a slightly uncomfortable atmosphere,with all its "ugliness". Now you might say that this isn't an excuse for photorealism and maybe you're right,but one of the reasons photorealism can be damaging is that you can't read a characters expression and therefore you can't read their feelings.In video games though,you're already in control of the main character.So it's like experiencing all of this yourself.When it comes to the other characters,well you still have readable postures,voice acting,plus most of time,the characters will mostly be humans anyway,and the action on screen is also readable.If a photorealistic video game DOESN'T have these,it just doesn't do visuals right... Also,when I said "it's kind of a sign that you're supposed to take it super seriously" I'm not implying that you can't take a vg seriously unless it's photorealistic.You definitely can do that,but when you see a photorealistic guy with a gun,your usual reaction would be "Shit.That guy looks like he means buissness!",compared to when you see a simpler and stylized guy with a guy where you'd react like "Oh,that guy looks cool!".In both occasions you're taking him seriously,but in the first one he looks almost menacing,while on the second,he does look intimidating but not necessarily as scary. And some ppl are just more attracted by realism.If you'd have me and my brother searching through Steam,you'll notice that all the video games I'll stop at are stylized and have vibrant colors and don't always look realistic,all the vg my brother stops at are photorealistic,possibly also with medieval elements or machinery.Even if it just has guns and military weapons,the guy is into that stuff.He would sometimes try to explain to me how guns and other things work and the physics behind them,until he realised my brain just doesn't retain such info (no matter how hard I try) and now doesn't do that as often,but he's still clearly into this stuff.He still plays stuff like Cuphead,Hollow Knight,Shovel Knight,Undertale and won't stop doing so.And I also play photorealistic video games sometimes and won't stop doing so. But yes,they do sometimes fail.I don't know many that do but I also don't have alot of vg experience either.
@Scroteydada
@Scroteydada 5 жыл бұрын
@@mascotwithadinosaur9353 An example of it failing would be Devil May Cry 5 recently. A third person extreme brawler where the animation is very important. It has all the same moves of the last game, but now instead of being cartoon anime guys, the characters have both scanned in faces and clothing. This is already somewhat jarring, but at first I enjoyed it for how comedic it was. You know that scene in Hot Fuzz where Simon Pegg does ninja flips over rural English garden fences? Yeah that for 5 hours straight. Where this fails though is the physics. In the original back in 2001, Dante was given a long trench coat later in development so that his silhouette would be readable from greater distances. DMC5 makes the coat shorter and animated by physics. It looks sloppy as it flops around and clips in and out of him. A timeless principle of animation dropped so Capcom could show off their stupid coat flopping technology. It won't age as well as DMC4 because of all this. Realsistic shooters are a way better fit for photorealism.
@This_Guy-
@This_Guy- 5 жыл бұрын
Ppl don't appreciate animators hardwork they think it's a 🥧 but in reality it's not that simple . All I wanna say is respect the animator . Am an animator and am very proud of it
@artenstien7100
@artenstien7100 5 жыл бұрын
Not to hijack the topic but I think skilled writers are even more underaprecciated, so many beautifully animated features get forgotten in time because the writing doesn't have anything meaningful enough to say. Having said that I agree that both cgi and 2d animators are badly treated.
@BenjaminsStudio
@BenjaminsStudio 5 жыл бұрын
The live action movies are an easy cashgrab. Have you seen love death & robots? Its an animated series on Netflix. I advise you strongly to watch it if you love animation!
@livdrawz6234
@livdrawz6234 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin's Studio that show is definitely a stepping stone to having animated films for adults become more respected
@sleep._.y
@sleep._.y 5 жыл бұрын
YESSSSSS Love, Death & Robots is just a great animated series that has at least an episode for someone
@RhineStone46
@RhineStone46 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin's Studio bruh that show is really good and clever. I hope they make more episodes
@BenjaminsStudio
@BenjaminsStudio 5 жыл бұрын
@@RhineStone46 New season confirmed man! We will get them :)
@RhineStone46
@RhineStone46 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin's Studio fuck yea
@Brian-mi5kg
@Brian-mi5kg 5 жыл бұрын
i hope to see more 2D hand drawn animation in the theatres!
@heroofthyme4237
@heroofthyme4237 5 жыл бұрын
Brian 4 or mixture of both like spider verse
@hotwax9376
@hotwax9376 5 жыл бұрын
So would I, but alas, I doubt that will happen any time in the near future. CG animation costs infinitely less time and money to produce than other forms of animation, and because the big film studios have almost complete control over what films get made, it's the only form of animation that they're willing to release to the big screen.
@deusexrockina
@deusexrockina 5 жыл бұрын
Me too omg I miss it so much
@GNSCMW
@GNSCMW 5 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 I don’t care about that it’s not about the easy work it’s about the hard work from dedication and determination in animation
@sunspotmill1291
@sunspotmill1291 5 жыл бұрын
@@hotwax9376 How does something that involves computers cost less than a traditional method? I'm still a bit confused about that notion.
@Golden_lol
@Golden_lol 5 жыл бұрын
Make this video go viral. Animations is so underrated and adults always think its for kids
@allanredhill8682
@allanredhill8682 4 жыл бұрын
I think few people even grasp how much effort it takes for a animated movie to get made. Like this stuff is insanely difficult to pull off
@TJGibson0
@TJGibson0 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe a weird place to put this bit I figure this video will attract a lot of animation lovers. Earlier today the anime studio Kyoto Animations, known for A Silent Voice (shown in this vid) as well as many other critically acclaimed and extremely influential animes were attacked by an arson. Burning down their main studio, killing at least 11 people, and injuring as many as 40, many critically. There has been a GoFundMe started to help raise money, anything you can donate obviously helps: www.gofundme.com/f/help-kyoani-heal
@cooper22887
@cooper22887 5 жыл бұрын
and its confirm that the arson attack causing 33 deaths...
@artistflare9072
@artistflare9072 5 жыл бұрын
@@cooper22887 I think it has gone up to 34, as one of the injured has died aswell
@Reckno64
@Reckno64 5 жыл бұрын
34 dead. Still can't believe it happened. #PrayforKyoAni :(
@memeboy8207
@memeboy8207 5 жыл бұрын
@@Reckno64 wait, 34 rule 34
@Reckno64
@Reckno64 5 жыл бұрын
@@memeboy8207 35 actually. I don't see why the rule 34 connection was made....
@madmady8278
@madmady8278 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man I just wanna say as an animator myself who is studying at university; I cant say thanks enough for telling people about the magic of animation. I really feel like your talking to me when you were explaining the effort that goes into the process of making these images move, I know it all too well! There are big things on the horizon for animation, and I believe as dissatisfaction for live action remakes grows, the demand for a return to animation will grow too. EDIT: Stumbled back on this video and saw my comment haha. I'm working in the animation industry now. I worked on Adult Swims 'Smiling Friends' and now I'm working on a new adult comedy that is yet to be announced. To say that the actual process of making animation is a challenge is beyond an understatement. And although people have this idea of a collaborative and wonderful art culture; in reality it's one of the hardest jobs you can imagine. I do not hesitate to say that this industry eats you alive and that those that can make it through into permanent employment are some of the toughest people I've ever met. The psychological aspect of pushing through the utter barbarity of this industry alone is immense. Crunches last weeks, people are underpaid, schedules are insane, and artists who stumble and fall can sometimes loose their jobs forever. Animation is beautiful, and I love it with all my heart, but if a little kid said that they wanted to be one like me... I honestly couldn't encourage them to pursue it.
@NinjaTyler
@NinjaTyler 5 жыл бұрын
I agree especially when movies like into the spiderverse are getting equal to greater praise then their live action counterparts
@diegocalderon5190
@diegocalderon5190 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing, as an animator you see some people not taking your job seriously or people saying is only for kids, and I absolutely hate this mindset.
@Moonstar79
@Moonstar79 4 жыл бұрын
To animators and artists around the world: "You're the best of all of us." ~Aaron Davis
@iRinnda
@iRinnda 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like it's often easier to invoke feelings in the audience through an animation than live action, just because the animation captures the very essence of a character. It makes animated characters more approachable, and since they are not real, it's also easier to relate to them. It takes an extremely talented and expressive actor to make a character become alive, and not all actors can fill all the roles. This is why some actors only get very specific kind of roles in the movies where they act. Jim Carrey is extremely funny! The way he does expressions and breathes life and joy into his characters is always funny and very comedic, no matter how dark (Count Olaf from _The Series of Unfortunate Events_ ) or light-hearted ( _Ace Ventura_ ) his character is. That's because Jim Carrey's essence as an actor is comedic, funny and borderline creepy at times. If someone ever drew a caricature styled 2D character of him, it wouldn't take you a split second to recognize who the character is supposed to be. Same thing if you take the actress Helena Bonham Carter; her essence is quirky, dark, unpredictable and a bit loony, which is why she is often casted for a role of a villain.
@Kinobambino
@Kinobambino 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be an animator guys. Send me your energy and love
@Ajourneyofknowing
@Ajourneyofknowing 5 жыл бұрын
Kino - Hello
@hakuro8618
@hakuro8618 5 жыл бұрын
You can do it! I believe in you! Step up and bring marvelous 2-D animation back into the film industry and prove them wrong!
@funniecheeseman
@funniecheeseman 5 жыл бұрын
Same!
@SplatterPaintMLPv6803noC
@SplatterPaintMLPv6803noC 5 жыл бұрын
Same! *sends energy drink*
@AiRbaL2000
@AiRbaL2000 5 жыл бұрын
We got this!
@GeneralKenobi75
@GeneralKenobi75 5 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons the live-action remakes annoy me so much is they diminish what made the originals so impressive and spectacular. The fact they were animated. They were all hand-drawn. That cannot be recaptured with CGI.
@madyluvsanime1248
@madyluvsanime1248 5 жыл бұрын
GeneralKenobi75 I normally watch them for the story changes honestly. Beauty and the beast was still trash but the *slight* changes in Aladdin like raga (however you spell the tiger) being a dangerous animal and the sultan making jasmine sultan instead of changing the law himself are just... fun. But I do agree that all the classics being remade is extremely disrespectful to the original and the art form
@GeneralKenobi75
@GeneralKenobi75 5 жыл бұрын
@@madyluvsanime1248 Fun but not really necessary. What do those really add to the overall story? What does that have to do with Aladdin and Jasmine's romance or Aladdin and the Genie? I mean, at least it's something different but like with Beauty and the Beast the changes don't really add anything to the story. It's not just disrespectful to me, it's completely unecessary. It's just Disney putting out movies to get people into theaters to make money without doing anything really interesting to the changes. The only remake I actually liked was The Jungle Book.
@Asdfgh-xr6qw
@Asdfgh-xr6qw 5 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralKenobi75 I dislike the remakes because the stories are as unoriginal as it gets and obviously just a Disney's method of earning an easy couple hundred million dollars, but the craft that goes into CGI, especially good CGI is remarkable. It's incredibly hard to do correctly and I find it every bit as impressive as hand drawn animation.
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 жыл бұрын
@@GeneralKenobi75 There actually was ONE minor change in Beauty & the Beast that added to the story. The live action version of the Mob Song has an extra line from Gaston that stands out: "Call it war, call it threat, *you can bet they all will follow, for in times like this, they'll do just as I say!"* It paints him as a manipulative villain to counter all those "Gaston did nothing wrong" people. That's the _one bit_ of praise I can give it though. The 2D version of the movie is overall better.
@GeneralKenobi75
@GeneralKenobi75 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChaosRayZero That wasn't a real change from the original though. That's just adding a line. In the original animated version Gaston is constantly portrayed as using the town for his own ends. Its there. He manipulates the town against Maurice and then again against the Beast. The live-action film likely added that line because they think their viewers are idiots that need everything spelled out for them due to the criticism the original got. Instead doing show don't tell they added unnecessary crap. So to me even that doesn't help the animated one. The only change I actually liked was to Maurice's character. Making a more dignified and wise old clockmaker rather than the bumbling absent-minded inventor that Belle had to look after in the animated one.
@daniellerogers9671
@daniellerogers9671 5 жыл бұрын
As an animator and someone extremely passionate about animation... I'm so glad you finally felt this epiphany A couple quick notes, though: - 'Claymation' isn't really the proper term. 'Claymation' actually comes directly from Aardman's movies, as they were originally clay models. 'Stop motion' is much more widely used for the method - Many of those sections of studio work you mentioned when talking about 3D, actually exist(ed) for 2D, as well. Things that are SPECIFICALLY 3D: Coding, computer effects (as opposed to hand-drawn effects), modeling (though stop motion does this too, just not quite in the same way), rigging, a lot of math etc. The way you animate in 3D is much more akin to how you animate in stop motion, as well, which puts many 2D animators down. Ten programmers and coders per one artist is the norm in a 3D film because of how much studio heads want to advance realistic technology. We actually had a guy from The Good Dinosaur come in to my school before the movie came out. His lecture was entirely on how they created the backgrounds with many, many computers rendering all the time... But refused to answer our questions about why the character design was so bad Unfortunately, Disney himself kinda dug this hole of 'cartoons for kids'. His movies won out over adult animation (Betty Boop etc) and were all very wholesome fairy tales meant for families. Ultimately the 80s tied the knot with kids being the target for animation. Because... advertising toys via full cartoons (GI Joe, My Little Pony, Carebears etc) Animation has never gotten the recognition it deserves. The average person won't watch animated content because 'that's for kids'. Even adult animation tends to have to be extreme in order for anyone to take it seriously. Japan does adult themes in animation much better, on average (like AKIRA), but their studios are even more worse off than American ones Want people who love animation? Go to France. But you'll find much more abstract and non-narrative stuff than anywhere else. Gobleins, in France, is considered the height of European animation schooling. CalArts is the equivalent for North America. I recommend looking up student films from both Please keep looking into animated movies! Go rep them to your friends! Get those stubborn ones to sit down and watch a masterpiece they've never seen (Ghibli movies come to mind, and Dreamworks. I love to show people Kung Fu Panda 2 because of how floored I was when I saw it the first time lol) WATCH ANIMATION!! (Also Cartoonbrew is great for animation news - and the Annies are the Real Animation Awards. The Oscars panel often don't watch the animated movies and thus a lot of the awards are... no)
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 5 жыл бұрын
Not all 80s animated shows were bad as there were gems like Muppet Babies (which won an emmy), Real Ghostbusters, Galaxy High, Mighty Mouse New Adventures, Dinosaucers, and a few others.
@thundageon5962
@thundageon5962 3 жыл бұрын
“People think of animation only doing things where people are dancing around and doing a lot of histrionics, but animation is not a genre. And people keep saying, ‘The animation genre.’ It’s not a genre! A Western is a genre! Animation is an art form, and it can do any genre." - Brad Bird, director of the Incredibles & Ratatouille
@tjwest2605
@tjwest2605 5 жыл бұрын
"A real sunset over a real horizon" *Am I a joke to you!? - Sunrise*
@LoveKillFear777
@LoveKillFear777 5 жыл бұрын
Hehe loved the video and what he had to say, but that one line got to me!
@mickeyd2034
@mickeyd2034 5 жыл бұрын
I remember back when Beauty and the Beast was released and how incredibly amazing everyone thought it was. It won so many awards because putting that much character into inanimate objects through animation had never been done before and was truly astounding. The creativity it required is still relatively unmatched today. With the remake it lost ALL of that soul, and everything that made Beauty and the Beast so amazing. It's sad to think that the children today will go up preferring these new ones just because it's new and modern
@tims.2717
@tims.2717 5 жыл бұрын
Eventually, the remakes will age and will have been forgotten while the animated originals will go on.
@Goikuchan
@Goikuchan 5 жыл бұрын
I think Emma Watson helped make the remake popular and that was it. Everyone still remembered her from the Harry Potter franchise as a very loved character and actrice. Well, and they never revealed Beast in the trailers. It was a way to lure people to the theaters to watch a movie that could never compare to the original. I'll be honest, I was intrigued when the 'remake' came out because it was new and eventually watched it while on a date with a guy that had a secret love for Disney. Now the whole remaking just gets old and I hope children will see that too and check out the original. I wonder if kids actually prefer this style over 2D animated and how long it'll last. Hand-drawn are slowly making a come back on kid channels.
@Cream147player
@Cream147player 5 жыл бұрын
When the remake of the original Beauty and the Beast was announced, I asked myself only one question. Why? In the transition to live action, it was going to lose so much - the expressiveness of the inanimate objects as you say, not to mention the beast, the magic of the setting, the fluidity of the musical numbers (they'd never be able to match *that* scene in the ballroom, or the liveliness of the town in "Belle"). Meanwhile I couldn't think of a single advantage that the medium of live action could give a fairy tale film like Beauty and the Beast. And of course, as it turned out, the remake did lose all those things, plus a whole lot more. The existence of it adds nothing to the world other than a great demonstration of why you shouldn't make live action versions of animated films. Of course the answer to my question "Why?" was extremely obviously. Money. No artistic vision, nothing but cold hard cash.
@hazey_dazey
@hazey_dazey 5 жыл бұрын
kids still prefer the animated versions, it's adults that are obsessed with live action
@montiigo
@montiigo 5 жыл бұрын
kids will always prefer the originals because their parents show them at early ages so it's what they grow up with. the only people who genuinely care about these live actions are adults giving Disney their money so they can criticize every mistake in a live action and compare it to the originals
@ayaashraf-wr8ki
@ayaashraf-wr8ki 5 жыл бұрын
this lion king will age horribly unlike the original which still holds 25 years later
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
Yup Lion King 2019 has aged like milk where the original is a wine
@diamond-heart21
@diamond-heart21 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@Roadent1241
@Roadent1241 Жыл бұрын
@@diamond-heart21 Have you not watched it? There's no emotion. My cats emote more than LA Simba or any of them do. The music is flat. Nothing triggers anything except "Wait WTF". Also they changed some of the characters and songs, ignoring the entirely reworded script. This is the only rendition of LK I don't care about, and it's been one of my special interests basically all my life.
@muznashahid9484
@muznashahid9484 5 жыл бұрын
kubo and the two strings is incredibly underrated.
@jackmackenzie8870
@jackmackenzie8870 5 жыл бұрын
This is why into the spider verse is the best representation of the idea of spider-man; he's a comic book hero and that can't really be captured in live action
@General.Noodle
@General.Noodle 5 жыл бұрын
But they can
@wavvy6654
@wavvy6654 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the fact that they felt the need to make him black 🙄
@kitoodle
@kitoodle 5 жыл бұрын
Wavvy its literally based off a comic set in a different universe where said character is black. its not even peter parker, its a completely different character. y u so mad
@fairoadiary
@fairoadiary 5 жыл бұрын
Wavvy In the comic book story it told that the character was supposed to be black, and besides people are tired of the same white characters in movies and tv series
@kennedylareign
@kennedylareign 5 жыл бұрын
Wavvy you’re an imbecile. You obviously didn’t watch the movie
@lumauve7807
@lumauve7807 5 жыл бұрын
*Sees Kubo and The Two Strings* *Starts crying* Finally, someone who recognizes this movie's beauty T-T
@iliya2098
@iliya2098 5 жыл бұрын
Same here except for me it's 'Your name'
@holly1025
@holly1025 5 жыл бұрын
It's a beautiful movie but the story was a bit formulaic.
@lumauve7807
@lumauve7807 5 жыл бұрын
@@holly1025 yeah, but I can't believe they just pushed it away
@retromemories8522
@retromemories8522 5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous movie.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
@@chyandinii Good Thing In 2016 Zootopia Moana Kubo And The Two String The Red Turtle Finding Dory Why All Animation Because I Think Animation Is Better Than Live Action Movie . One Day Animation Feature Will Win Best Pitcure At The Oscar .
@ChloeLeis
@ChloeLeis 5 жыл бұрын
11:56 me: man, Gravity Falls should be in here. 12:30 me: bless you, Ben.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 5 жыл бұрын
Of course! One of the best animated shows ever!
@ChloeLeis
@ChloeLeis 5 жыл бұрын
@@CenterRow Preach! The whole video was amazing by the way, I loved watching it and as an artist myself I really appreciate what you had to say! New to the channel, definitely subscribing. You've got some great stuff. Keep it up!
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 5 жыл бұрын
@@ChloeLeis Thank you and thanks for subscribing!
@samanthaecotothermia7896
@samanthaecotothermia7896 4 жыл бұрын
Tipping my hat to you, man. Nobody has managed to put this into words so well. Excellent video.
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SandyTheDesertFox
@SandyTheDesertFox 5 жыл бұрын
As someone studying animation: THANK YOU!! Live action, 2D animation, 3D animation... They are not 'upgrades' of each other... They are entirely different Art forms within themselves! They have their own strengths and weaknesses. Like any tool, it's what people make of it that decides the quality.
@deepfriedspaghetti982
@deepfriedspaghetti982 5 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! 3d animation takes time, effort, and love! Just like 2d animation does!!
@iaxacs3801
@iaxacs3801 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing up Japanese animation like A Silent Voice and Your Name. I just wish you brought up Ghibli because there's a reason why it's such a respected animation studio.
@violetsparkles5453
@violetsparkles5453 5 жыл бұрын
Ghibli speaks for itself. We all know it's as beloved as Disney. Anime disney
@muir9257
@muir9257 5 жыл бұрын
well, he didn't name the studio but he showed that one _Panicked Ginger Howl_ clip jfhdkghkdf
@kylemorello4787
@kylemorello4787 4 жыл бұрын
He did show Spirited Away.
@sugaryheaven4089
@sugaryheaven4089 4 жыл бұрын
He forgot to mention Perfect Blue
@KRYMauL
@KRYMauL 4 жыл бұрын
He showed it, and that's all you need to do
@estrelaa7380
@estrelaa7380 5 жыл бұрын
One semester in college I took a class called Francophone language and culture. And our professor played the original French audio of Persepolis to do an assignment on it afterwards. A few of people actually complained and said "why is she playing children's media for us" even when we finished the movie. Persepolis is literally a movie where the main character grows up as the Iranian revolution happens around her. Also even if it was a movie for children, why shouldn't we study it? It the syllabus never said we'd only be learning the adult francophone culture.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 3 жыл бұрын
Even Pixar Who Has Add A Complex Theme In Their Movie Yet their movie is still called a kids movie
@cinemalazare4850
@cinemalazare4850 3 жыл бұрын
i think any type of animation 3d, 2d, ect is art
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
What about stop motion?
@cinemalazare4850
@cinemalazare4850 3 жыл бұрын
@@Johnlindsey289 yep, that's totally art, stop motion is so sick!!
@kylemorello4787
@kylemorello4787 2 жыл бұрын
What kind of dimension would you call stop motion? 4D?
@OtterloopB
@OtterloopB 5 жыл бұрын
We've reached the point where a hand-drawn feature film would feel like a novel invention in this day and age. I'm completely aware CGI animation takes a pain-staking amount of work too, but... *man am I sick of seeing it*
@ssffe529
@ssffe529 5 жыл бұрын
While I do appreciate what VFX and CGI can do I do in fact think that we need more variety in film here in the west.
@princessthyemis
@princessthyemis 5 жыл бұрын
me too!!!
@chrisossu2070
@chrisossu2070 5 жыл бұрын
It's not CGI alone that's the problem. It's the fact that no one is doing anything creative with it even though it opens up so many possibilities. Into the Spider-Verse was probably the only CGI movie that I watched that actually looked different.
@basedbattledroid3507
@basedbattledroid3507 5 жыл бұрын
Same, they all look too similar when they're all 3D, Spider-verse was a breath of fresh air, despite still being 3D, but it would be even better to get a big company doing a 2D animated film released in cinemas like we used to have.
@whistlebird
@whistlebird 5 жыл бұрын
@@chrisossu2070 Agreed. I want to see more boundaries being pushed on the big screen. Maybe it comes down to all the animation studios being afraid to take the risk of making something look different and have it fail because it's not familiar (even though some could definitely afford to take risks).
@tedsowards
@tedsowards 5 жыл бұрын
I love love love animation and you were able to articulate my “why”.
@APRILartz
@APRILartz 3 жыл бұрын
Disney needs to stop making live action adaptations of animated films and start spending their budget on making more animated films.
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! Zootopia is at least something different than lifeless remakes which are leftovers like Lion King, Beauty and Beast and Aladdin
@mattdickun
@mattdickun 5 жыл бұрын
I have felt this way about animation for years, espically after watching Hayao Miyazaki's films.
@qwerts9525
@qwerts9525 5 жыл бұрын
this video perfectly describes why i'm an animator
@fezii9043
@fezii9043 5 жыл бұрын
Love you
@sparkleroar
@sparkleroar 5 жыл бұрын
Good luck with that. I'm striving to be one too and it'll be a lot of work and barely any pay :/ Lol passion won't stop us though :D
@AtlaniBonita
@AtlaniBonita 5 жыл бұрын
OMIGOD QWERTS I DIDN'T EXPEC TO SEE YOU HERE =0 But honestly same
@cryptokinku6824
@cryptokinku6824 5 жыл бұрын
As someone who is currently in school studying animation, videos like this really give me hope that more people will begin to recognize the beauty of the medium again. One of my pet peeves right now is hearing people call the new Lion King a "live-action remake," which, even though I'm not particularly a fan of the movie, upsets me because of how it completely disregards the fact that people had to animate all of it! I get so worked up and excited about the animated medium, whether it's in movies, tv shows, video games, etc. because it's my passion, but so often entertainment created with animation is treated so poorly compared to their live-action counterparts. One of the worst culprits really is Disney, which started out as an ANIMATION studio! It's not just with their movies either. Their amazingly clever and charming animated television shows are more often than not treated so poorly to the point of cancellation after only a season or two (Wander Over Yonder, for example), while their live-action sitcoms take the lead, with even the most subpar ones lasting several seasons. Lilo & Stitch was my first introduction to the world of animation at the age of 4 and it's stuck with me ever since in ways that live-action movies just haven't. Thanks for making this video and putting it out there for more people to see, it really helps us animators feel even just a bit more appreciated :)
@kittenmimi5326
@kittenmimi5326 4 жыл бұрын
It's called live action remake (eventho it's animated) coz the makera and advertisement of the movie says so (even though they knew it's not it's only trying to be) and the movie is such a waste of effort... why change the animation to photorealistic when the cartoony style is already good? Why not take that effort and use it on something else that would actually fit the style?
@kikismiley11
@kikismiley11 4 жыл бұрын
At which school are you studying animation? :) I want to start studying animation next school year
@narnia1233
@narnia1233 4 жыл бұрын
There’s lots of people who like animation, so don’t worry, you’ll have lots of people who appreciate your work. It’s just sad if those jobs don’t pay well because I know it’s a lot of work and it’s also a competitive field. Hope you can make your own small studio or market yourself well. Jobs are all about connections and networking, so make sure you get out there and meet people and collaborate. My best friend and her husband have been working for about 8-9 years trying to break into the video gaming industry (they want to create video games and make their own studio and bring that type of business to our city located in Midwest part of US). Right now it seems like everything goes to California and I think it’s a missed opportunity. I wish big businesses would start expanding their operations to other states that have creative talents too. Anyways, keep networking and good luck to your creative pursuits.
@cryptokinku6824
@cryptokinku6824 4 жыл бұрын
A Cooper thank you for the encouragement!! I do think people miss out on many opportunities by automatically gunning for places like Cali and the big studios, while not thinking of aiming for smaller studios that are scattered around. I mean, even bigger names are in other states AND countries. Laika’s studio is located in Oregon of all places, and Bethesda Softworks is located in Maryland! I’m an optimist, but I also understand the competitive nature of the field I’ve chosen, so I’m gonna keep working hard to make my way in the industry however I can through networking and so forth. And Good luck to your friend and her husband!! I hope they’re able to achieve their dream of building up their own game studio.
@cryptokinku6824
@cryptokinku6824 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Panda I’m studying animation at UMBC, which, funny enough, is a primarily STEM-focused school. However, I do feel like I’m getting a good education in the arts, and I’m saving a lot of money doing so. So don’t feel like you have to go to some big art school in order to get a good art education! While networking may be a big tougher at times, it’s all about the effort you put into it and how much you put yourself out there!
@smileyman1721
@smileyman1721 5 жыл бұрын
How many times have I had to tell my friends that I'm jealous their family watches animated shows or movie with them and that my parents don't watch anime or even Disney shows with me just because "it's animated." Too many times to count.
@SkylerDemness
@SkylerDemness 3 жыл бұрын
Can relate...
@RamdomLolola
@RamdomLolola 5 жыл бұрын
only japan seem to have understand that animation is a art style and not a type of movie. Animation = a endless possibilty of visual effect and art style, you can make it the way you want. live / realistic cgi : very limited possibility of visual effect and art style, it must look realistic.
@sugaryheaven4089
@sugaryheaven4089 5 жыл бұрын
The director of the anime movie "Your Name", Makoto Shinkai tells in an article why he prefers anime over live action
@Ajourneyofknowing
@Ajourneyofknowing 4 жыл бұрын
Lieven GalacticTraveler - Or that is just your narrow definition of Animation- the illusion of movement & life to something. Still animation is a art style an aesthetic used to portray something still.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 4 жыл бұрын
My Vision Of Animation = An Art That Able To Captivate Our Eyes And Heart That Had No Limit Of Imagination .
@Sauruss
@Sauruss 5 жыл бұрын
Wanna know what's under appreciated? Your videos! Can't wait to see more content from you
@CenterRow
@CenterRow 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SuperSaiyanMaster2024
@SuperSaiyanMaster2024 5 жыл бұрын
@@CenterRow same here, Man!
@ethanxpsp2770
@ethanxpsp2770 5 жыл бұрын
@@CenterRow this video you made is perfect when describing animation fantastic job man
@ThePolishCan
@ThePolishCan 5 жыл бұрын
When you said "Animation might just be the purest form of cinematic storytelling." I just remembered that Irzykowski, an early film critic said something similar in "The Tenth Muse" back in 1924: "When the future of the normal film belongs to the engineers of matter (the human body and the body of nature), then the future of the cartoon film belongs to the painter-poet. And it is only the possibilities of the latter movie that guarantee the cinema its artfulness. [...] For the normal film is a temporary substitute of a painted movie. To disregard a cartoon because a photographic film already exists would be as absurd as to abandon painting because the mechanism of photography was invented."
@noahbossier1131
@noahbossier1131 5 жыл бұрын
exactly.
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 5 жыл бұрын
That comment is spot on
@misterel5548
@misterel5548 5 жыл бұрын
That is truly beautiful
@morphobots
@morphobots 5 жыл бұрын
Chills ran up and down my spine as it almost looked like a real " *_sunset was coming up_* " over a real horizon in front of me. Wait, what? ?????
@danielmore7973
@danielmore7973 5 жыл бұрын
When i watched the "Cats" trailer, the first question that came to my mind was Why couldnt this be made in animation ?
@slamgrene8440
@slamgrene8440 5 жыл бұрын
oh, spielberg really wanted to do so initially but he couldn't get the animated adaptation off the ground
@AWlpsSHOW36
@AWlpsSHOW36 5 жыл бұрын
I really wanted to see realistic cat version of the characters in animation. I was so dissapointed!
@Johnlindsey289
@Johnlindsey289 5 жыл бұрын
Or why not just use actual make up artists?
@Pundit07
@Pundit07 4 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to watch live action “Cats” then I would go and watch the play. Oh wait, I already did back in 2005.
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798
@m.syauqiabdurahman2798 3 жыл бұрын
@@slamgrene8440 because one thing The Story Of Cats
No. Animation isn't just for kids.
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