I love this “Joey Bizinger” channel has gradually become the old “TheAnimeMan” channel

Anime is not edgy. We are.

I completely agree with you about less Isekai. I'm so tired of looking for a fantasy show, finding one, and then it starting with a rando getting hit by a truck.

One of the best “Let’s Fight” episodes I’ve seen, but your Patreon people need to up their game as many of the topics south like hot takes from middle school and younger.

The second half of Oshi no Ko was fine. People just overhyped it from that one scene and expected the show to go down the Deathnote route, when most of the first episode was as goofy as the rest of the series.

Who also thinks joey should change his main channel name to "the manga lad"

The question is... how much has garnt spent on FGO compared to that person. More? Less? Deadman Wonderland needs the brothers treatment, same with Soul Eater

The devil man thing is like watching Akira for the first time and thinking that motorcycle slide is a bit played out innit

I'm so glad you're doing these kinds of videos again.

samurai shamploo does have one the best OST. R.I.P Nujabes

Funny thing about how they should make more cyberpunk stories, because I think there's a LN about a demon king/lord being resurrected 500 years after his defeat and his world became a cyberpunk world

That guy that tried to say Chainsaw Man is dogshit after 6 episodes is insane. That shit took off running after 6 episodes. Some of the best episodes are in those later episodes. Insane take.

I saw KanEDGY and I clicked. It has been long since I consumed anything Tokyo Ghoul😂

I feel like the anti edge culture has been pushed to the point of nothing being allowed to be good old dark gorey stupid fun anymore and it sucks because I unironically love edgy stuff. Funily enough I think all the edgy shows mentioned in this video (Besides Devilman) are ass though.

I love so much, that you brought this series back!

Ya know, when it comes to Shinichirou Watanabe directed shows, I'm kind of missing a mention of Zankyou no Terror in both categories of directing and OST... even if the story was what it was

Well, I guess I've been fought now.

For ppl who didn’t like CSM this next arc is pretty much the shibuya of CSM and it’s a movie

Joey that last anime you watch was back in 2010 😂

On live action Anime. Just because most that have been done, especially adaptations that use the real title, are so bad they've created a meme-worthy stereotype of how garbage they are does not mean someone with the correct understanding of both mediums and a vision that isn't just based on cashing out on a brand couldn't make really great live action anime adaptations.

More cyberpunk animes, YES PLEASE! Cyberpunk style animes of the 80s and sci-fi of the 90's were what got me into anime.

Its refreshing to hear that you enjoyed the Aku no Hana anime! I never read the manga but I really liked how they made the anime feel so uncanny valley with the design and rotoscoping. It really pushed a psychorror feel and it was super cool to me! The anime version of Nobunaga Concerto also uses rotoscoping, and watching the behind-the-scenes of its creation made me love it even more!

Letss goo finally someone is mentioning indian curry respectfully cause nowadays it has became a literal meme

I can understand with the “filter” endings in anime. Most of anime series I’ve watched just ended with no continuation or some kind of cliffhanger, or things have changed at the time. Sure, there’s always other adaptations out there (such as, manga, light novels, or visual novels) for said series, but I would liked to experienced all of it as an whole in some way or something like that.

That term 'edgy'. Like Lemmings standing on the edge of the cliff & turning to each other & asking "Shall We?!"

You have such an incredible discussion about DEVILMAN, I am beyonDDD impressed and amazed! Im a huge DEVILMAN fan and you have pointed out soooo many things that I could never see.❤😂❤😂😂❤❤❤

17:50 Right in the feels man. I loved the characters and beginning portion of Tenjou Tenge when I was young. The middle having so many episodes dedicated to a flashback and then the lackluster ending still makes me sad. I gotta stop being lazy and read the manga.

In regards to the "nostalgia" topic, it goes both ways. Yes, people do dismiss older media by saying things like "it's just nostalgia", as Joey and the commenter said. You know, the _"it's old, I'm not gonna give it a chance, it's probably bad/worse than the new stuff"._ However the opposite happens constantly and you you see that every other day with "modern gaming is bad" videos. Cases where honestly they do sound like they prefer old things mostly *_because_* of nostalgia or an unwillingness to, not necessarily change, but accept something new. Not everyone is like that, but they definitely exist. But it is important to realize that not all old things are good. Likewise not all new things are bad. Far from it. Good and bad things always exist, then and now; sometimes one more than the other I suppose. Maybe someone does think that modern things are worse. Fair enough, I guess, we all like different things. In regards to video games, I think that there are tons of new amazing games. Maybe they don't agree, but that doesn't matter, because I like what I like and so do they. Point being that you shouldn't dismiss older media just for being old, but there is plenty of good *_new_* stuff that if you dismiss it simply on the basis of it being new or even "popular" then are you better than those you criticize? I don't think so. You don't need to like or dislike anything, but being aware that people often like things you don't, and not for a lack of taste, is important.

I fell asleep when I watched Akira about 10 years ago. I thought maybe I just wasn't mature enough to understand back then or whatever, so I went to the cinema when it was re-released recently. I dozed off at around the same point as before lmao As much as I appreciate Akira's visuals and the atmosphere of the first half, I don't think GITS or Edgerunners are even in the same universe

Dang he seems to know a lot about Manga and anime. He should make an anime channel

Okay whoever sent in that Shounen take was kinda cooking.. need more of that rant

I don't know. I'm not a Oshi no Ko superfan, but I would say that the second half of the first season was as good as the first half. But then I don't think the opening episode was the best first episode of anime. It was kind of just fine.

2:50 This is not true. FGO does not explain the whole fate franchise. It's simply a different story. That's like saying Persona 5 is enough to understand Persona 4. But I agree with the comment saying it's not that complicated. It really isn't. Outsiders just see 100 different titles and get scared. The fate anime alone are enough to understand 90% of fate lore. Or even better, read the VN instead of watching the anime. Sidenote, I love how Joey knows everything about the KH timeline despite never playing it. Thank you Aki.

I never take people seriously when they start debating with the nostalgia argument. Basically you’re saying you’re mad that people aren’t dick riding what is popular right now, and your favorite show or media is out of date after it hit the 15 to 20 year mark and it has no value whatsoever today.. I’m the kind of person that believes if the creator knew what he was doing during that time, his work can hold up for many decades. 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

There's a low-budget sci-fi thriller from 2013 called 'Coherence' that would be amazing as an anime film, or series of OVAs. If you haven't seen it, I highly recommend.

The Eminence in Shadow is.

Finally some anime content after 10 decades !

"Fewer Isekais and more Cyber Punk" I couldn't agree more!

i love this series since u had it on ur main channel its so great good job joey best wishes

Go Nagai has always been one of my favorites, but hey I’m old and he’s one of the few manga writers that I like that’s still alive.

Monster and Now and then, Here and There: "Are we a joke to you?"

Joey you should do a nonsense/house of ninjas hoodie collab. That would be sick. Just putting it out there

17:45 Also included with Tengo Tenje is Kenichi The Mightiest Disciple Season 2 ( although I hear a rumor that they might actually finish it ... )

These are the types of videos i want , thank you

Alright, since Joey talked about Devilman ending, I'm going to defend Erased's thirds to ending. I think the ending is pretty good. It's literally the title, "Boku dake ga Inai Machi", "The Town Where Only I'm Erased". If you're getting annoyed by the ending and disregarding the whole journey it took because of it, then the author had already accomplished his goal because that's the consequences for changing the past, someone had to take others place.

@Joey Bizinger 16:00 WHAT I'M SAYING! Thank you ! I've been saying for awhile now, that we need more sci-fi/cyberpunk Anime and Manga today. We haven't gotten a dark gritty sci-fi Anime in a long long time. One of my favorites genre's in the medium honestly. 😭

2:33 when you get done. 🛌

So here is the thing. Older content is a spectrum just like newer content is a spectrum. And yes there are some really good older stuff and bad older stuff. But it is also true that nostalgia and familiarity affect our appreciation of the content. This is a well-studied phenomenon and denying it is delusional.

Thai curry though?!? It’s such a banger

To that nostalgia person nah it actually is nostalgia. Going back and playing older games is really hard if you didn't play them in the past. Like i know Torment would be one if my favorite games of all time if I grew up with it but every time I've tried playing it it's impossible to get into.

A director *was* actually attached to the Akira live-action, that being Taika Waititi, he wanted to make an adaptation that was closer to the original manga. The reason that it apparently fell apart was because he wanted to cast a Japanese actor in the lead role whereas the studio wanted to cast a big name like Leonardo DiCaprio and they butted heads on that.

The 2nd half of ONK s1 wasn't up to par with the 1st half, what? That is a wild take from Joey

Let's fight Electric Boogaloo 2. I'm all for another one lets go

Akria ending worked because it was close to the manga's end of that arc. Also it ended in such a way that it could actually pick up from that ending, should a sequel have ever been made (which shouldnt be done in modern day, no freakn way, but back in the 80s/90s sure i would say give it a go). And it would require little to no retcon. But I get what you are saying, like The Mist a Stephen King book actually had a different end from the movie and the movie's ending was perfect. The book's ending was perfect as well Highly disagree on the edgy statement. Also used very nit pick examples of bad anime to represent edgy overall. That was borderlining on tourist normie take. Worst of all, uses other anime/manga titles that have edge in them in video to justify good anime for other points in the video. I'll even go as far as to defend Elfen Lied. I didn't super like it, like every one else did when i came out, but i could appreciate it, for what it was. The edginess was used as tool, exactly how a movie like The Thing would use violent edge to sell you the stakes that is at play. With Elfen Lied, you were dealing with a being that is something completely different, something that was designed in it nature to be a weapon, a highly dangerous one. If I remember correct, it was over a decade since I watched it. So inviting something like that into your life, no matter how down to earth and human it came off as, cursed tragedy would follow. Even the movie considered to be a all time classic Alien, it was primarily initiall designed to shock the audience. It had an passionate team working on it that worked their asses off for the effects, tight script, direction. But that out of the creators own mouths, was the initial plan to shock the audience. Berserk as well, has a TON of edge, so much it deemed unadaptable at parts.

20:22 I can’t stand shonen fans. Who literally get surprised when there’s a new series from their company that similar to something else their stories are never original, and they never will be. Even if something starts out different it will still go into the category of things you’ve already seen before and honestly instead of complaining that every creator is ripping off each other. Have you ever thought about the fact that shonen jump as a company does not care about it being original or not? They care about what sells. When I found out that Kishimoto was told to make a rival character for Naruto. The Dragon Ball fans said he was ripping off Toriyama. Sasuke was not even part of his original vision for the story. It worked out well, but imagine being called out by a fanbase for a character you never intended to be in your story to begin with, but that’s what the company wanted.. 😕

i'm unreasonably happy that someone else knows Sakamichi no Apollon

Nothing we love is edgy, we are And the game Hatred

I've said it many times before & I'll say it again. Just because something can be something. Doesn't mean it is that something.

I FUCKIN' agree, Joey! CY-BER-PUNK! CY-BER-PUNK! More, please??? 🙏🏼🙏🏼

no chainsaw man hate will be tolerated

Looking great joey ❤❤

I think the only way to prove it is not nostalgia is if you never experienced the old thing until you are an adult and that thing is already old. Like I am 24, and my favorite musician is Eric Clapton. He inspired me to learn guitar. My mom is probably the worlds oldest Swiftie and never listens to rock music, and my dad was not in my life much as a kid and mostly listens to country music. I have no bias at all towards classic rock music from the 60s and 70s and purely like it for its own merits. Even someone like Joey, assuming he likes Clapton and Hendrix and such too, would have nostalgia for listening to it as a kid with his dad. I didn't get into Clapton until about 5 years ago and got my first guitar in 2020 when I was 20 years old. So I can, without a doubt, say it is not nostalgia.

Anime is definitely edgy, but I think we need to stop seeing that as a bad thing.

The guy talking about Fate is Garnt's alternate account lmao

I guess I should read Devilman now. Also, I am quite fond of shonen anime and manga because I grew up with action movies and superhero comics. There's a familiarity there. Sure, I do like manga and anime of other demographics and genres, but, Shonen Jump and shonen in general is a comfort based anime and manga for me ❤

Metallic rouge, while not completely Cyberpunk, definitely gives the vibes

I get that kingdom hearts is confusing to some people but saying things are cannon when they are not just confuses people even more. The world ends with you game does not have to be played to understand the characters appearing in kingdom hearts.

Man this series is a dose of nostalgia. Please keep this going.

The fate timeline isnt complicated at all, it makes sense, if you accept that most of the universe ,. yes has good basics and that, but it also kinda is mostly fanfic by th ecreator loosely held together , with a good story at the core and branching out from there. That somehow still is somewhat coherent together. So no fate isnt complicated, you just have to let go its some hard magic everything is logical thing when a lot is like in universe fanfic stuff thats just integrated.. Good fanfic, that still has themes, but still.

Fate series is R-18 version of Pokemon

Joey talk About ANIME NO WAY!! Ohh it's on 2nd channel make sense (at this point patreon is the only way to make Joey talk about anime even on the main channel). Atleast it's a progress 🎉

LETS GOOOO NEW LETS FIGHT

My only problem is that although samurai champloo ost is good I’d argue the keikai kaisen/ blood blockade battlefront’s ost is way better

Tenjou Tenge anime did pretty much the same as Air Gear anime. Anime ends right before series actually goes crazy. And both made by same author.

Toriko man I miss it so much I hope they rerelease it again some day so I can collect the manga

15:50 meanwhile joey wears arasaka sweater from cyberpunk, no way you didnt planned it!

Junji itos take on Frankenstein was great, it'd be good to have that art applied to classic horror movies

As a Kingdom Hearts fan, KH lore is convoluted, but that's what makes it so amazing

Hello, Joey! I’m a huge fan of Ari Aster, myself. You probably have watched this, but in 2011 he made a short film called “the strange thing about the Johnsons.” It’s 30 minutes long and available on KZfaq if you haven’t checked it out already. It’s really well written and directed.

27:04 it's cyberpunk EDGErunners for this generation

There was also Akudama Drive, pretty good cyberpunk show

Glad to see the LETS FIGHT series has been migrated to this channel

yay i was wrong about devilman crybaby, now i can watch it knowing that it was an og and have a better thoughts about it.

3:40 bro has not heard of COD zombies nor dragonborne

Amazing video Joey,fantastic job.

Coming with a contradicting opinion to yours about mirai nikki. Yes it's edgy I was 14 and I thought it was deep BUT I rewatched 2 times in the spam of 9 years and its holds to its wicked romance story. It's one of the most realistic ones out there. Spoiler alert: yuno states that she could have loved anyone that came to her perception at the right timing. And that's what I uavent seen in any romance story. The harsh truth of how we fall in love with someone or even not love but satisfy our needs. Being at the right moment with the right person is what it takes to fall in love. It really holds a dear place in my heart and every time I rewatched it I found out something new. Other than that it's an OK show, pretty funny at times and it has great character development that it could be expanded on.

Anime is very edgy... Let's not fight

15:58 esp in this AI moment we need more cyberpunk anime. To this day I ask younger and newer fans if they had ever seen GITS and I get blank stares. Its kinda shoxking how slept on it is

Imagine watching the live action movie of DevilMan when you're 8yrs old. Traumatized me to my core, but I wanna try watching it again after 15yrs. Ps. Idk why we had a disc copy back then😂

maybe the real devilman is the friends we made along the way

I missed Let's Fight series

I just wanna hug

Live action anime can be good. I think it is called Tokusatsu or something.

25:29 this commen is our hero who literally destroy and expose the german anime community who praise elfen lied as an master piece but its just 12 episode of mindless bloodbath same for brunhildr in the darkness

20:36 - it doesn't help that many of the shounen titles are the ones that get imported to other countries first.

The point about nostalgia is that some people romanticize the past when in reality they only remember the good parts. There were plenty of bad games, films, shows, songs etc. in the past. Obviously when you are actively playing and enjoying an old game and someone says it’s ‘just nostalgia’ they’re dumb, but when someone claims a general ‘they’re not making them like they used to’ statements, that’s nostalgia.

Keep up the awesome work and videos Joey love the video

2:26 I'm still shocked at how people can easily and accurately guess that my favorite character in Fate is Illya. It's so wild how often it happens. I don't know how they keep doing it

Oshi No Ko season 1 was consistent and episode 6 was easily its best episode

What about Hokkaido soup curry?