No comments?

💀

Real

Where are the comments

Least gruesome event in Berserk

real

Woof

No I didn't

​@@FEMTO-DARK Nah u did u just doesn't know it yet 🎅🎅🎅🐈

Rookie mistake

Exactly. Something that all the readers tend to overlook along with the torture in general. There is literally no body and brain left in the guy. He's scattered. So he acted shitty. Simple as that.

​@@firwy9058 yeah, I mean idk about you but I'd probably abandon my own humanity after that.

[EDIT: GUYS I stand corrected. One commenter pointed out that the torturer was carrying a speculum. That is an undeniable indication that I was wrong] That's just speculation. "Husband and wife" is probably just a metaphor for them being in close proximities

​@buttovelli9198 dog it's berserk. Also some victims of sexual assault have a higher chance of commiting sexual assault themselves.

@@omniXenderman yeah still speculation. It wouldn't really explain Griffith's tendencies when he already sa'd the princess prior to his capture. It's clearly a coping mechanism to reclaim a sense of power and dominance, like sa in real life is

The zetas got him

lmfao

😂😂😂

“Won’t you to take me to, funkytown?”

Worse the irs

Bro took what he gave

​@@terrariaguy216Except that was the first time Griffith was affiliated with SA

@@terrariaguy216better wording might be: 'He gave what he took'

​@@NeonPlanes The first time Griffith was associated with sa was when he sold himself to the noble in charge of the judar fortress that we see in the golden age arc it was shown in a flashback after Griffith returned when he was talking to casca how he felt dirty and he converted the emotonal trauma from the sa in to self harm physical pain amd damage being easier to understand and profess then actually confronting the emotions

​@@Healthnut69how is thta sa he sold himseld

Underrated comment 😬

Nah, this is more like medieval times

No 1807 was modern we talking abt 1000 ad

Lol in 1807 they were developing early combustion engines and stuff, people already wore top hats and canes. what are you talking about? Make it 1207 and you are getting closer

And u r black ...

Outrageous...

Wait what?

​King was in love with his daughter his daughter was in love with grifith so he torture grifith for sleeping with her​@@Chartus-ij1rp

@@Chartus-ij1rpGriffith fucked the princess and the king wanted to is what the comment means

@@Chartus-ij1rp the king was in love with his daughter charlotte that's why he is also so aggressive while torturing girffith

What a weird hoop you jumped over. No one knew what Griffith's ultimate goal was, the King was jealous of Griffith taking his daughter's virginity but couldn't say that so he lied and said treason.

@@AgentshadlingI mean but he did commit treason lol, regardless of how much a freak the king is I think him having the queen, the duke, and the most likely heir Adonis being killed is treason. And having sex with a princess in that day in age without consent of the king is certainly treason lol.

@@thomasfisher7391 again, no one knew it was him that did those things. The King had no grounds, consent of the King didn't matter otherwise he would've used that against Griffith, but he didn't because both Griffith and Charlotte called him out at wanting to have sex with his own daughter.

@@Agentshadling I don’t understand what you’re talking about, him having sex with charlotte the princess is the treason he is accused of. Whether they know about the other things or not is completely irrelevant they are still treason. Having sex with a princess in this age without the consent of the king would absolutely have been considered treason regardless of whether or not the princess was a willing participant.

​@@Agentshadling mf acting like medieval kings just let shit slide like a cool high school teacher, they'll find any reason to make you suffer

im bro

@@dariusukun2527😏

Uhh, that's just medieval times. There's nothing dystopian about this, people even did worse things than this in the past...

@@nicolabertini2741 ............. No comment, read the manga 😂

I think you're just underestimating the insanity and madness that existed in the medieval times.

​@@bruhman2736 @nicolabertini2741 both of you are kinda overestimating the cruelty of medieval times. Rulers still had to make sure that the peasants were happy, as most peasants had arms due to the threat of tyrannical leaders and the fact they made up the majority of the army during wartime. While it still wasn't a good life, it isn't anywhere near as bad as some think it is. (Unless you lost a war, then looting happens and that's as bad as you think it is)

Back then they would make you sit on a big wooden horse shaped like a triangle, tie ropes around your ankles that pulled straight down. Rip you from taint to tophat. If tophats existed during midevil times.

Having s** with the princess might not be treason per se, but the king was not having it

yeah, didnt he like orchestrate the death of a noble and the queen? Also, tried to get the throne through political means and slept with the princess. That's a lot of treasonous action.

Nah it's just politics

​@@huynhvuongviet2410true, falsely is just cuz some people get their butt hurt admitting what Griffith truly us

​@@CA_786and Guts and the other tried their absolute best to save him and they did succeed in it and after they did their best to be there for Griffith only for him to betray Guts and do horrible stuff to casca infront of Guts and btw Femto is Griffit and Griffith is femto

He can’t resurrect those who have been branded as sacrifices due to their souls falling into the infinite void of torment with the apostles. That was the saddest realization I found reading Berserk at 13 years old 😭

You would do the same thing. I get it's neat to think people are mentally tuff enough to do the blessed thing and stay loyal but he was crippled beaten tortured to piss lol it's stay loyal and stay like that or sell out your friends and loved ones and become a literal god who can fly around and be relevant or I suppose be loyal and murmur words spit drool and hobble around. Fuck off lol

​@nic1626 yeah :< they'll forever know only pain for all of existence and never know release It's beyond messed up, damn

@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know if they will get freed or not YET. If the Idea of Evil can be killed, then I don't see why something seemingly derived from his creation should exist.

He would've resurrected them if he was Griffith. That's Femto, like oh my god man there was a transformation that existed that stripped him of all good feelings like care and love. Not to say Griffith saw Casca and Guts get into a relationship while he was being tortured made him actively hate him to a particular extent instead of being apathetic. Not to say Guts was the face of his own psychological torture since it was the only thing that kept him from truly losing himself and having the semblance of consciousness that allowed him to still register and go through the pain and humiliation. At that time the Griffith(who was most likely in shock) just wanted Guts to go away from his mind. I'm just saying, if you think IF you had the power of Femto and were stripped of all good in your soul, you wouldn't do similar if not more horrific things than Femto you're laughably naive. read about the banality of evil.

Ikr

Did you read the same thing I did, like seriously the king arrested Griffith because the king had a thing for his own daughter

@@Orcheis_ that fool snuck into the bedroom of the daughter of the king of Midland and thoroughly clapped her cheeks and low key was conspiring I would say that shit was treason to they’re medieval standards 🤷🏽‍♂️

@@Orcheis_ that's the underlying truth, yes. It's also true that berserk and Midland takes much inspiration from medieval Europe, and the Holy See mimics Christianity. That being said, in medieval Europe if a commoner or even a general (Griffith was both), snuck into the princess chambers and had sex with her, therefore stealing her virginity before she could be married, that would be considered treason. For the king, it would throw the kingdom into a nightmare of political and religious turmoil. So I know the king in berserk was gross and had a thing for his daughter, but even if he didn't he would still do the same and Griffith would still be guilty with said precontext.

I was JUST abt to comment that! Glad, someone did.

Womp womp

jred biting the curb 4k ultra hd

Womp womp

Womp womp

@@jred2day766that womp womp shi corny as hell young bro

He shouldn't have sabotaged his plan by having fun with the princess

​@@jred2day766 Guts should have stayed his property.

@@sithlorddread8721 Guts had a fair duel with him and was allowed to leave after he skillfully won

💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

@@sithlorddread8721these are his fans btw do you hear yourself 😂

😂😂😂

Guts did

@@TheOneWhoAsked.637Ehhhhh calling Guts “sane” is a bit of a stretch. Definitely handled things better than anyone else could have, but he’s definitely not mentally stable.

@@tommcan Upto lost children arc he is borderline psychopath but after millenium Falcon he genuinely became sane

​@@TheOneWhoAsked.637 not saying that guts didn't suffer,but griffith suffered 1 year straight being tortured nasty everyday

@@SHAMIIZEN Bruh u saying like guts didn't nearly die every single day for 2 years? Remember the majesty especially told the torturer to keep Griffith alive. Guts was attacked with the intention to kill.

That’s a good idea ngl

Biblical levels of truth here

The great paradox of man... capable of the most extreme, unamaginable evil. And at the same time capable of the greatest, most profound care and empathy. Man is suffering. And some people chose to use that as an excuse, others as inspiration!!!!

@@themoshpit8341 it is no paradox

I must have forgotten that part

​@@petergeramin7195 It happend in the manga I tihink

For the Eclipse to initiate he had to of gone through a traumatic experience where the behelit would find him again

Oh boy you're cooked now

He did it to himself

⁠@@karmacop217i mean the only thing you could say is wether or not it actually was his fault or just destined to happen beyond his control since you saw Conrad and Ubik manipulating him as a child (which tbf could be them manipulating him as an adult in the flashback but maybe they’ve been the old lady all along). But on the other hand Skull Knight and Guts already proved that you can go against Fate so most likely Griffith is just a b*tch and should die anyway

If he kept his emotion in check, then he wouldn't be in the situation. He created a hell of his own making.

I'm 13 and this is deep

I agree

Finally somebody who sees that Grifith as a complex enough character, to not just be reduced as “the bad guy". Berserk (just as life itself) is beyond “good and evil".

@@wolfvash22 I think him revenge raping casca makes him a foul fella

@@HudsonSheline He is a indeed very hateable, precisely because it is well written. At first the story presents him as a young ambitious gentleman, but berserk is not a fairy tale with humans just battling monsters or demons, it is very realistic as the band of the hawk are not heroes but mercenaries, likeable and charismatic but murders for a hire. I don't think the Casca's incident was mainly for revenge but something deeper, I think it was Griffith testing if he had lost enough of his humanity, as the eclipse ritual per se, is how a person sacrifices his humanity for the sake of power. The torture to which Grifith was subdued is also something to consider (not for the sake of apologize), Grifith was extremely broken, both physically (he was even castrated) and mentally, when the temptation of the behelit was presented, so perhaps Femto as an inhuman being was just testing his regained “manhood” in the worst way posible, not for the sake of vengeance but for a primal instinct of asserting dominance; he was reduced to an almost carcass while the only man that has defeated him was complete and stronger that before.

Average underwhelming day as a main character in berserk

I could not agree more

The amount of people here defending Griffith scares me fr. Like did we read the same manga??

​@Sweet_potato402 What you're seeing is the same hat trick pulled off by characters as diverse as Lotor from Voltron: Legendary Defender, and Humbert Humbert from Lolita: be a good-looking/well-spoken/charismatic enough malignant narcissist predator fuckboy, and a significant amount of the population will buy it hook, line, and sinker. This is why we can't have nice things in real life.

hus fate us cruel

Bruh the princess was in love with him. Griffith was just there because he felt abandoned after Guts left

@@LilCabbage0just because she was in love with him doesn’t mean she wanted it tho

he did kill the queen or something but how is him sleeping with charlotte treason

@@S.D.323 Imagine youre her father, the king, and on of the maids told that the knight you trusted is naked in the princess room

People still do these things

Such things are very common, and part and parcel of a major "religion of Love" back then in the medieval ages(I can't mention it or else my comment gets removed). Removing the "sins" through all kinds of torture, etc. Or invading all other countries that are not a part of this religion, using God as their justification for war. It was a much more cruel time back then, in the middle ages.

Miquella is basically Griffith. They both look incredibly similar, and are both manipulative power-hungry individuals. Hell, Miquella even tried to become a god, much like Griffith wanted to have god-like absolute power.

@@Reed5016Miquella is nothing like Griffith lol

@@acoustic_. I just explained all the ways he is, my guy. I was being hyperbolic when I said they’re the same character. Obviously, they’re not. But there are similarities between the two.

@@Reed5016 calling Miquella power hungry is such a poor judgement of his character. At the end of the day, he believes he is doing the right thing, even sacrificing himself to ascend to godhood. Miquella is completely naive and selfless.

@@acoustic_. He’s still manipulative, and killed a lot of people to achieve godhood. With Griffith, we don’t even know his motivations for seeking power. Maybe he believed it was for the greater good of Midland, or maybe it was selfish. Maybe it was something more twisted. Who knows. What we do know is that Miquella and Griffith both sought god-like power, they both look similar, and they both are manipulative and have done crazy things to obtain that power. Though it can definitely be debated which of them is worse (I’m going on a limb, and saying Griffith is significantly worse).

Nah😭

Nah, guts had it much worse. Damn... even how he was born was beyond messed up

@@jamestomlin5525 griffiths torture was worse, guts is atleast a functioningperson still, griffith had 0 chance of ever recovering not to mention its implied the torturer raped him

⁠@@feroniks366guts was raped as a child, by donovan

Bro I'm ot tryna be that guy but this is 1000x worse than anything guts has ever felt. Imagine getting your tendons cut, that alone is more than enough to make you feel pain. Not to mention, the torturer probably played with the cut parts too, probably forced him a ton of times and when you get tortured to your face, it's really painful. And he was tortured in the parts where the nervous system is complex. Meaning, he had to experience a lot of pain

Well, no one wins when we play the suffering Olympics.

You’re late bro everyone knows

​@@griefoflinkocarinaofmajora5159 He can still talk about it.

As bad as Diavolo was, he didn't deserve eternal suffering

​@@lupus-griseo Finally someone said it

That blew my mind when he said that 😂😭

Right? The hell is wrong with him?😂

Why was he rightfully accused?

@@souravsarkar4459 Sexually abusing the princess, as she clearly didn’t consent

​@@souravsarkar4459 after guts left him because he decided to find himself, Griffith went crazy and forced himself on the princess as a way of dominance which angered the king into having him be tortured for a whole year.

yes it does

Yes it does

Yes it does

Yes it does

Nope it doesn't

It's daily thing in medieval times.

u can understand him revenge raping casca? do u need help or smthn?

Fr

Guts never became a villain, and he suffered his entire life, not just a year

@@moty333 Griffith is worse

@@CSWdenji69 You’re right. In terms of morals, Griffith is much, much worse. Glad we agree

@@moty333are you unstable ?

Sure sure. But what he did to Casca was COMPLETELY unnecessary and evil. And he forced Guts to watch! I can understand WHY he would sacrifice his band…but he’s not excused for doing it

@@Moldereyes1999 i mean guts literally tried to kill casca a few times, you always have some hatred inside you and no one is perfect, i think thats what miura tryna say. griffith was in his demon form too, which means all the evil and darkest feelings of him are manifested, which leading him to do that, u prob know he had a manipulative obsession with guts, so the moment guts fall in love with casca, griffith grows a bit jealousy and hatred towards both of them, resulting to later actions in his demon form. for sacrificing his band, that was not acceptable at all, but would you not do the same thing? we can all act moral, but when put at the lowest point and give a chance to revert everything, would u deny it for the sakes of others lifes ? griffith is a complex character and no one knows if hes wrong or right, thats why i love his character so much

@@celanvaril6200he did this to himself he raped the fucking princess he was NOT false accused

I understand but that doesn't mean it was ok. There is also no justifying what he did to Casca. The sacrifice was practically over at that point. He did it purely to spite Guts.

Fr. Ppl really think that guts never tried to r*pe casca when her mind was broken lol.

But is that already Treason?

​@renebismarck8265 you do know that virginity of noble daughters was almost like a coin for bargain? It was important for politics. Sure, Griffith was a successful general but he was a mere commoner who had no right to sleep with princess. So yeah, it is treason

I dont remember any mention of griffit getting piped down (other than that time he had sex with a king or a high figure to get some moneeey)

nope, he did do that, he said him & griffith were "just like husband & wife".

​@Its_Just_I speculation

@@buttovelli9198 wel i mean its pretty heavily implied & really what else could that sentence mean?

He sacrificed the ones who saved him

​​@@MrVimtomelonThat he put himself and them into that situation in the first place, because his fav subordinate wanted to be his own person and all of that was done to be acknowledged as a true friend to Griffith.

Well he was sold as a prostitute at a very young age before even meeting guts so yeah he wasn't all there

​@@phoenixwright2420Didn't he sell himself to fund his army? Unless there was another instance that wasn't to further his own ambitions.

👁️ 👄 👁️

Just read Berserk its one of the greatest manga of all time

He had sex with the Kings daughter, theirs more to it than that though, you should read the book to find out

he slept with the king's daughter and deflowered her, which I guess is an act of treason because they are not married