True, but she could probably play Staten Island or the Bronx just as well. Please don't chop my head off for the bad pun, just trying to survive a quarantine here...

@@bronxbearbud272 What About Brooklyn.

@@bronxbearbud272 no need to apologise, that's top level punning my friend!

Same with nat

@@derk3933 how did u even come to that conclusion... BOTH WERE and ARE queen's of england...like anne boleyn was the first queen consort to be executed... thats why her death was so shocking... not to mention Elizabeth's uncle abdicated the crown which meant it then fell to his brother who was king through out the second world war making elizabeth ii a princess in her own right and after her father died she was crowned queen of england... so make it make sense...

WOLF HALL DELIGHTFUL SIDE CHARACTER RANKINGS 1.) Chapyus 2.) Purkoy 3.) Everyone else

Why in french

do we know what happen to the dog

And Anne killed the fire with coolly watering out her French comeback. "What do you know of how I spend my time?" She's tired of the Cardinal's unsuccessful attempts and excuses as is King Henry. Her eyes demand the results right now. She's already beating Cromwell down. But Cromwell will not back down. The way Anne sits, she feels she's already the new wife and the Queen. Ryan and Claire make a great duo in this scene.

@@davidnoble544 Yeah but Cromwell was still right though David. As queen Anne really had nothing of importance to do and all she ever really did was lounge around with her ladies.

@@xyPERSON I don't disagree, Ian. I know that Cromwell had the courage to be right. But he couldn't make another comeback right there. Anne as much as she lounged around was really aggressive in her replies. But Cromwell was assertive in his replies and as you say right. He was very rational in his points.

resting Claire face

This.

she is a great actress, but the dog isn't. Looking at the camera, bad acting dog, tighten up !

She also had the last laugh. Long and happy life..her descendants became big time Elizabeth I courtiers

ask your dad if he wants to adopt me

Wow.. He did a great job❤

Wow so cool!

Did a fucking awesome job

Ooh awesome

Charity Wakefield played Mary Boleyn, as you say she made a wonderful job of it.

Natalie dormem

@@amcmenemy5647 Thank you. I will have to look her up on IMDB.

I think she should have worn brown contacts as Anne’s dark eyes were one of her best features she had beautiful eyes

I fully agree. I have watched every TV show and documentary I can think of on the Tudors and not one actress came close. She is as close to the real thing as I think we shall ever see.

he doesn't reveal his fluency in front of others. it's a master play that people often forget can be a form of protection long term. The ladies in waiting could easily begin rumors that he speaks in French to Ann which could be contorted to a form of conspiracy.

​@@mgb5170Most noblemen and women spoke French in those days. Cromwell speaking French with the queen would hardly have been notable.

@@heatherstockard721well in Cromwell’s case it would’ve been a lot more surprising he had fluency in French (amongst others) since he wasn’t born noble after all

Elizabeth Bower who Commented some months after you beg to differ. I’m with you.

Have you seen him in 12th night played at the Globe with Stephen Fry ? Rylance is brilliant

He played Thomas Boleyn in The Other Boleyn Girl.

@@MercurialRed9 that was my first thought as well

god i KNEW he looked familiar!!

Lisle ?

I despise the way she pronounces that.

Well it is always in the eye of the beholder, but to me Natalie Dormer is the ultimate and most beautiful Anne

Head and shoulders above the rest. ;-)

Natalie, Genevieve, and Merle were gorgeous as Anne.

@@LyricalXilence Agreed

Genevieve the most beautiful, Natalie Dormer most sexy, but Claire Foy maybe the most accurate Anne potrayal

Natalie Dormer would like a word..

@@infinitive7654 Natalie was great but I feel like she was way to bitchy and exaggerated at one point. It was less of a historical series and more of a drama-romance so that allowed her to play with the character and that’s why I think she captured Anne’s wit and cockyness but she’s not the most accurate. The execution scene was the best in the Tudors though, and Natalie was magnificent indeed

No she actually isn't. They take away every good thing about her personality and make her a bitch. Nothing of the charming, vivacious, intelligent Anne she was.The only worse portrayal than this one is the Natalie Portman one. If you wanna a good portrayal there is Anne of the thousand days

I dont agree because even though AB was harsh I dont think she was harsh all the time. Sometimes she would have to have been fun and feminine or H8 would not have been so in love

@@derk3933 sassy French accent to mock him, I loved that

@Obvious Troll Here. i didnt know that, thanks.

the description of her included the words, chest not much raised

@@julieblackstock8650 thanks!!! ☺

Natalie Dormer.

@@asgharabbas2193 Bit random.... Ava Gardner

Cromwell’s blank stare is great. He understands French (in fact, he understands several other languages, to other characters’ cost), and he is supremely unimpressed.

@@professorbutters Everybody at court in those days who had a hint of education would have spoken French.

That's a Satchel.

Didn’t Henry later say he regretted having him killed? But blamed it on others.

@@mollykeane2571I believe he was supposed to have said something like that to the King of France. The Protestant Reformation was a drastic change, and for a King quite risky, he feared plots as much as those around him may have feared him. He sacrificed Cromwell to appease the nobility and those still holding out for Church of Rome. He spared Cranmer to continue with the Reformation. I think there was no turning back for the Henry, but he wanted to keep the radicals in check.

😂

Like what ?

Francis Bryan broke his neck. Yeah, I knew the guy was a jerk (they didn’t call him “the Vicar of the Devil” for nothing), but killing an innocent animal is beyond the pale.

BackToMe well haha at the end Elizabeth is in certain way Boleyn's descendant

@@jorgesolano8934 well no queen Elizabeth has Henry VII's blood directly and Henry VIII's blood, but not anne's, anne's bloodline stopped with Elizabeth 1st

@@nihal.k2411 sorry, not descendant, I meant relative, she is her relative

Nihal .k They are still related from Mary Boleyn’s line.

Hopefully after they have finished with Poldark they can get on with some new episodes, its been more than three years?!

It has not been published yet.

I've heard he married the Lady (former Princess) Mary and in time was crowned Prince Consort.

Do you lot know nothing of history? I loved the series, loved Cromwell but I’ll skip the last one.

@@joemdee it was a joke sir. Jeeeez.

And shall be again! New series coming soon!

So cute

Check out the movie Ann of a Thousand Days.

@@janebeatty9472 seen it, still prefer Claire

Personally, I'm more interested in the sister. Her laugh at the end of the clip.

Agreed, also a subtle put down, as if to say, I am so refined, I speak French, and I will not deign to properly pronounce your name. Plus Anne was so smart....she knew he was a polyglot and she is flattering him also. Seductive, manipulative, brilliant and desperate Anne....Foy captured her perfectly.

Karen Katz She really did. Perfect more realistic portrayal. Not the girl everyone loves and sympathizes with from the Tudors, and yet not a total shrew either. I believe the real Anne was that combination as well.

I came here just to hear her say it !!! OMG

Not yet. They are waiting for Hilary Mantel's next book in the series to come out "The Mirror and the Light"

Alright, thanks. More than enough time to rewatch.

Amazon Prime.

Only a single season. I believe the Covid situation, among other things, has delayed a second season.

Anne was educated in France for many years, and had a reputation at court for her French manners. She is pronouncing his name in a French accent just to be slightly condescending. How would you feel if someone refused to pronounce your name properly? I'd be kind of pissed off.

@@filipzawistowski8552 also to rub his low birth in his face. French was the language of sophistication. The last vestige of Norman hauteur and the beginning of French as a pan-European language.

Anne’s father was the English diplomat to the Burgundians for several years, and Anne spoke French like a native since she grew up there

The dog wasn't actually called Pourquoi, the name just derived from that word.

"You are kind, eh? So..." (I think)

Vous été ton tien ? Alors . master Cromwell, You are ???? Okay master Cromwell

@@Welhem5492 I think she says "vous êtes gentil, eh?" which, like Isaac above said, means "you are kind, eh?" What you said, as far as my very poor French goes, makes no sense, because "ton" and "tien" mean "your/yours", so your translation would be smth like "you are your yours" which I'm not quite sure is correct 😂

@@henryviii2091 Right , I accept your Suggestion, because in the novel Anne has said „vous etes gentil ....., Mais je J'ai entendu qu'elle a dit „vous êtes ton tiens“ , ou „ vous etes (Avec) ton tiens?

@@Welhem5492 Are you French, or a fluent French speaker at least? I am not, but from my knowledge "vous etes ton tiens" makes absolutely no sense. Also, you first wrote "tien", which "le tien" means "yours", and then you said "tiens" (with an "s" at the end) which means "hold" in second person singular imperative, or "tu tiens" which means "you hold". I might be the one who makes the confusion tho, that's why I asked if you are fluent or native in French.

It's directly from the book; she was educated in France, so IIRC she was more accustomed to speaking French than English. I think it's supposed to be a deliberately silly affectation that she later drops once they warm to each other.

@@KingdomEnfilade Pretty sure she calls him that all the way to the end. In the series at least, I haven't read the book.

Those that knew her said she could pass as a French born woman. She spent a few years as one of Queen Claude’s Ladies in Waiting. She is pronouncing his name in the French manner.

That's what I want to know.

I think it's "Vous etes gentile" or "You are kind" -- but it's been 30 years since I studied french.

You're nice, aren't you? Translated figuratively.

Probably to impress him.

In the book it’s implied that she puts on a French accent having spent her time at the much more fashionable French court. I got the impression this was how she always spoke but here she uses it only on Cromwell (spelt Cremuel in the book to remind us).

@Candice Lynn Would think to put him in his place-as the mispronunciation of one's name both irritates and offends, but not Cromwell in this case. He doesn't give a fuck. To put it crudely.

She was being snitty. Obviously.

Obvious Troll Here. Same thing with old spanish don Quijote for example,The original one is almost unreadable for a normal person,interesting how just 5 centuries change a language

There are videos of Shakespeare in (experts' best guess at) the original pronunciation if you want to hear an audio version. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7-ZjMdqt8mvZYE.html for "to be or not to be". It's less Patrick Stewart/Ian McKellen and closer to a stereotypical "Ya-harr, matey" pirate accent (which sort of makes sense; Blackbeard was only a century or so after Shakespeare, so the language hadn't changed all that much).

That's a very good question 😉.

Like a drunken Cornishman.

A bit like Boston Irish. Anthony Burgess, who knew the phonetics of Tudor English, once did some readings of Shakespeare using the original pronunciation before a very WASP crowd at an Ivy League university, and caused outrage. The audience refused to believe that Shakespeare didn't talk like Laurence Olivier.

He played Anne Boleyn father in The Other Boleyn.

Sir Mark Rylance

Well you write your own script with perfectly accurate dialogue.

Obvious Troll Here. How exactly did she cross Henry? By not giving him a son, which after all, was completely out of her control? Wolf Hall is revisionist crap, so don’t buy into the story that Cromwell was a saint. I think everyone, even Katherine, in this sordid tale, are all motivated by greed, power, status, and winning over their enemies. No one is totally innocent or pure. However, neither Katherine nor Anne deserved the cruel way they were treated by Henry. Cromwell, on the other hand, had it coming.

@@graphiquejack What makes Cromwell different from those two? Apart from the fact that he's a man?

@@joshcain1032 He being a man makes it different already. That is pretty obvious. There was a big difference between how much power a women and a men could achieve and hold back then. Katherine and Anne had way less control of their fates than Cromwell did.

@@thc1597 Normally, that might be the case. But in this situation it's different. Cromwell and Anne get their power from the same person: Henry. Whoever is higher in his notoriously fickle favour has the most power. They both understand this, and they both understand the consequences of losing his favour. In the books, Cromwell realises this after Henry's jousting accident, when everyone thinks he's dead, and he realises that he is utterly dependent on Henry for his power and his safety. So whilst normally, as a man, Cromwell would have more power than Anne, as a commoner he lacks the powerful family to suppport him. Thus both he and Anne have little control over their fates, which they have placed entirely in the hands of Henry VIII.

@@joshcain1032 Very well said! People often forget as well that a noble woman would have unquestionably had more power than a common man as a rule, regardless of gender imbalances within social class. Class distinctions were far stronger and more unequal than gender distinctions in most historical periods, at least according to the research I have done.

I’m American and I was raised Roman Catholic. 😀

@@AmandaFromWisconsin The Pilgrims came over here for religious freedom first. Followed by Lutheran Reformers and Quakers. They were escaping the Catholic Church and the burning alive of heretics. Not exactly their finest moment.

@@AmandaFromWisconsin Freedom of religion is a Protestant concept

@@AmandaFromWisconsinu and so many others lmao doesn’t change the fact that america was essentially founded on protestantism

Because deep down he knew she was innocent of the charges.

I think the reason Anne's gowns fit oddly in the front was that Claire Foy was pregnant during filming, and that messed up the fittings on the bodice. None of the other female characters have similar issues with their costumes.

I agree. In the novel Cromwell is portrayed as a man who would beat your brains out against a wall if that was what he needed to do; but would use his intellect to trap you first. This portrayal seems essentially weak and the actor seems physically small against what I would expect from a man of his background.

There’s a fabulous biography on Cromwell that blows away a lot of the usual misinformation about him. It’s by John Schofield. “The rise and fall of Thomas Cromwell”

Edmond&Mercedes Downright hostile.

The Tudor Court was a bear pit; I think a woman in her position would be foolish to trust anyone in it. We'll never know how much of her behaviour was just bravado in front of enemies or potential enemies, although she certainly had a name for arrogance amongst her contemporaries. Then again, people in that sphere shared that attitude. They were bitterly resentful of Cromwell's elevation to power and prestige, primarily because he was a blacksmith's son.

Pride does indeed goeth before a fall.

Hmm, it did said that she's a loving and kind woman. Even won't hesitate to step in if someone in dire situation. Although it is true that she is ruthless, but only to those she considered her enemies. She even have a lot of people hated her and wanted to bring her down. I'm not a historian and political genius. This is the Royal Court so of course you had your guards up in case of ambush.

That and Kate Phillips (the Actress Playing Jane Seymour in this) is probably preocupied with Leading the Show 'Miss Scarlet and The Duke'.

Not sure, at court one had to choose ones words carefully. Americans nowadays habitually engage their mouths before putting their brains in gear. That habit may be a function of time and place, ours being quite different from theirs.

@@tonygumbrell22 like your not putting your brain in gear by insulting an entire nation of 329 million people because I said the show was boring. Take your anti American hate and be a good communist and tell someone else how to act and think.

Ann spoke English with a French accent. Watch the movie Ann of aThousand Days starring Genevieve Bujold. It’s an amazing movie.

You do you.

Natalie Dormer is a lovely actress but The Tudors was a show written for idiots. Wolf Hall actually requires people to pay attention without someone getting their tits out every 5 minutes.

That was a rather pantomime caricature performance though. Which summed up The Tudors, I couldn't take it seriously. Wolf Hall on the other hand is on a whole other level.

@@MrPicklerwoof Since that post, I've learned there are many actresses whose portrayal of Anne Boleyn rival Dormer's. Lesson learned.

No. Wolf Hall is crap. It’s Cromwell who is the real villain in this story, not Anne

We will never know

@@graphiquejack What makes you say that?

@@joshcain1032 Because that's the perspective they rather in the story. It's like Octavian or Antony/Cleopatra. Who is the main character(s)? The other side is the villain.

@@illerac84 I think the idea was that there are no heroes. Anne is prepared to kill and manipulate, but so is Cromwell. If Anne had won, she would have shown no mercy. But because Cromwell won, it was he who got the chance to kill the other.