Anne of Cleves: the DYING WISHES of a former Queen | will of a former queen

Anne of Cleves: the DYING WISHES of a former Queen | will of a former queen | six wives documentary

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2 жыл бұрын

What does the LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ANNE OF CLEVES say and what were the dying wishes of a former Queen of England before she went to meet her maker in 1557? In this six wives documentary from History Calling I’ll take you through the final days in the life of Anne of Cleves, fourth wife of Henry VIII and the legal preparations made for the death of a former Queen who had held the anomalous position of ‘the King’s sister’ after the annulment of her 6 month marriage to Henry back in 1540, but who lost even that distinction upon his death in 1547. The will describes how Anne (whose marriage, however brief, has arguably made her one of the most famous Queens in history) wished to be buried and who she left her belongings to. It provides insights into the social circle she had built in England, her role as a landowner and mistress of a large household, what she considered to be her most prized possessions and the relationships between Anne of Cleves and Mary I, Anne of Cleves and Elizabeth I (or rather the future Elizabeth I) and Anne of Cleves and Katherine Willoughby, Duchess of Suffolk. It also indicates what a wealthy Tudor lady she was, despite her complaints to the contrary. In addition, the video will look at how far the last will of a former Queen was observed by her executors and by the Tudor family she had been absorbed into.
The death of an ex Queen of England was an exceptional event in the country’s history and Anne’s fate and the preparations she made for it provide an insight into the unique position this one time bride of Henry VIII found herself in as her life neared its end. As I’ve discussed in another video, she was given an ostentatious funeral and in this documentary, you’ll also see the tomb of Anne of Cleves in Westminster Abbey, not far from those of her former step-daughters, Mary and Elizabeth Tudor.
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@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

What do you think Anne's will tells us about her as a person and her life after Henry? Let me know below and check out my PATREON site for extra perks at www.patreon.com/historycalling Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my channel too.

@flizz39 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a generous and kind friend. We can definitely say she was quite skilled at diplomacy, what w/ accepting her annulment w/out complaint, and the special relationships that she had w/ both Mary and Elizabeth. Not sure about Edward though. He kinda sounds like a bit of a poo, but genetically speaking, that's hardly surprising. All I really was thinking was how nice it would have been to be her friend, because I also am fond of rec'ing jewelry as a gift. :) Thanks again, HC, great video!

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

I have sometimes wondered if she had a secret love. A close companion for company and comfort. I think it unlikely though, since if she had become pregnant then word would almost certainly have reached Henry (even though the baby would have no doubt been brought up by others elsewhere), and she would have been in trouble. After escaping the Royals in Germany, particularly her brother then Henry, I think it doubtful she would have risked putting herself in danger of any sort. So sad she couldn't go on and and marry a man of her choosing and be happy with him. That would have been an even happier ending for her.

@katherineoliver3856 2 жыл бұрын

I like to think of her enjoying her life and independence and friendships and especially her relationship with her not-quite-stepdaughters Mary and Elizabeth so I like that her will seems to support this. Thank you for your excellent videos. I really like the care and details that you go into on topics like this.

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

@@angr3819 I dunno- Katherine Parr married the man of her choosing after Henry died, & we know how horribly that ended. As a wealthy woman, being single was a pretty good choice- you kept control over your goods & lands, & didn't risk an abusive husband &/or death in childbirth. Anne clearly had many friends, & you can be perfectly happy without a romantic partner. She may have had one tho, & just didn't risk pregnancy with him.

@katjack2780 2 жыл бұрын

This is a bit off-topic, but I had to refresh my memory about Katherine Willoughby when it was mentioned that she received a ring. She had known Anne ever since her first arrival in England; she and her then-husband Charles Brandon Duke of Suffolk were sent especially by Henry to greet her. So theirs was a long friendship. But what was particularly interesting was Katherine's situation in 1557. She had fled with her second husband to the Continent to escape persecution as Protestants under Mary. By the time of Anne's will, she and her husband and young son had found refuge in what is now Lithuania, then part of Poland. Anne must have known of her circumstances at the time of writing her will, so I just have to wonder how she thought the ring could be conveyed to Katherine? And there is Anne, requesting favors from Queen Mary, who had sent a messenger after Katherine and her family "requesting" that they return to England...

@michaeldunbar2127 2 жыл бұрын

Anne of Cleeves seems to be a kind, generous and thoughtful person. I do admire the fact that she knew how to make the best of an difficult situation and lived what appears to be an enjoyable life.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think she was. I've never seen a bad word said about her (except by Henry in 1540).

@Moebian73 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Henry called her a bad word? Where? :)

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

@@Moebian73 he thought she was ugly and said she was no virgin. Apparently she washed even less than he and smelt. However, he didn't smell of roses as his leg ulcers plus the various concoctions put on them reportedly stunk to high heaven. It was more likely that he was being pique when he pretended to not be the King, to test her, to see if she would realise he was after all the King. Of course she didn't. Imo, she seems to have not been enamoured by him as she was so willing to accept the annulment/divorce. From being under the thumb of royal male family in Germany to being sent to marry a frankly dirty smelly old man and chance her head being cut off, she was no doubt very relieved to be given the option of not having such men around her.

@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 2 жыл бұрын

They ended up being pretty good friends by the end.

@kylaarmstrong-benjamin8066 2 жыл бұрын

@@Moebian73 when he first saw her in person, he said "I like her not! she looks like a horse!"

@Thatsmegigi 2 жыл бұрын

I find it intriguing that Anne went from a young woman brought into an unfamiliar country, and betrothed to an awful man, to a woman with wealth and independence-all by her own choices. Hearing the details of her will shows her generosity and kindness.

@aimeefriedman822 2 жыл бұрын

I always think how she never saw her family again. I find that so sad. I'm wondering if any relatives ever visited her in England. She didn't even know how to speak English when she came.

@marahaquala1686 Жыл бұрын

I hardly call it her own choices when she knew from past events her head was on the line... but certainly, her care of her servants is a genuine act of her own.

@jasperhorace7147 Жыл бұрын

@@marahaquala1686 And she sacrificed any opportunity she may have had to become a mother. This alone, enabled her to leave her worldly goods to anyone she chose, rather than to her children which was the norm. I know servants got small bequests but not on this scale.

@Sassenach4life 2 жыл бұрын

I definitely think of all of Henry’s wives, she came out on top! She outlived him and his wives AND she was given riches! She accepted Henry’s divorce with her dignity in tact and her head on her shoulders…literally! The fact that she made sure her servants were taken of speaks volumes of her character!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think she was the real winner as well. Catherine of Aragon did live longer (getting to the age of 50), but she had such a miserable life, poor thing.

@Sassenach4life 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling oh yeah I meant outlived them as in they all died first lol! But yes I concur, when I first read about Catherine of Aragon’s life my heart just hurt for this poor woman! No one deserves to be treated like that! Especially when they have been nothing but loyal to you!

@user-es8si3cv8b 2 жыл бұрын

She lived in freedom compared to both her upbringing and the marriage.

@arielundine8836 2 жыл бұрын

I agree she kept her head on her shoulders literally! Very grounded

@jackieterrero264 Жыл бұрын

True she managed to keep and use her head. Catherine of Aragon was foolish and put her love of evil Henry over being with her daughter

@pbohearn 2 жыл бұрын

Anne is what psychologists might call “emotionally saavy”- high emotional IQ- reads others, restrains her impulses, thinks things through, and maintains good relatonships among all sides, not getting triangulated. As in Mary vs Eliz. She Also knew how to handle narcissists and when to roll with the punches vs. fight back. Henry appreciated that.

@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын

Anne navigated Henry so expertly. She may have lost the power that comes with being Queen Consort but she won a fairly long, very wealthy life, being beloved by all of Henry’s children and the country at large, and being famous as the most successful wife of Henry VIII. She really was a queen

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

She was indeed. :-)

@vanyadolly 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt any power a she would have had as queen at the time would have been worth the trouble. She got a much sweeter deal after he divorced her.

@udkriri 2 жыл бұрын

Henry should " Get Down " since shes the " Queen of the castle " ✨️

@mygreatescape9617 2 жыл бұрын

Anne of cleves was the luckiest of Henry's wives, she excepted the divorce with grace, no doubt she might have been relieved when Henry asked for a divorce, she stayed good friends with Elizabeth. Thank you for sharing this about a so little talked about queen, much love from Washington state.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

No problem at all. Greetings from the other side of the pond (and indeed the world!) I'm an Anne fan too :-)

@mygreatescape9617 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling I'm a BIG Tudor fan and I love all things historical from the UK.

@timefoolery 2 жыл бұрын

I think she was so relieved that he didn’t want to remove her head she would’ve accepted any offer he made her! I completely agree, she was the luckiest of the wives.

@georgielancaster1356 2 жыл бұрын

I think she was very lucky he didn't fancy her - but she was incredibly wise in her dealings with Henry and she appeared to be a very supportive and kindly step mother. I believe she was horrified of the idea of going home after the annulment. She was treated with little respect at home. I'm fairly sure one of her manors was Bletchley Park. A wonderful link, for me, as Bletchley in WW2 is a great interest of mine

@kelrogers8480 2 жыл бұрын

She was petrified on more than one occasion, though. It wasn't all plain sailing for Anne!

@susangridley8354 2 жыл бұрын

Anne has always been the one of Henry's wives I admire greatly. Having found herself in an appaling position far from home she acted always with grace and dignity. Her will demonstrates her thoughtful kindness and generosity.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think it speaks volumes about her too and in a good way :-)

@christinetitus6388 2 жыл бұрын

I always thought she would have made a good Queen of England. As a person I find her refreshing for a woman of her position. She was kind, generous and thoughtful. Someone I would have like to have known in person. Thanks History Calling for another enlightening video!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I think she was good during the brief stint she had, so yes, it is tempting to wonder what would have happened if she'd had a longer run at the job. I always think I'd like her too (though we might have a bit of a language barrier as I don't speak German).

@lynnlambert8745 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for another excellent video. I appreciate how you stick to facts and don't pass of speculation as fact. The oddly specific sum of £66 13s 4d is two thirds of £100. Maybe this had some significance. Anne always comes over as an attractive and warm personality.

@channelraven8808 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling but she spoke English, didn't she? Do we have any idea?

@edithengel2284 2 ай бұрын

@@channelraven8808 She might have learned during her life in England, but she didn't know any when she arrived.

@CassiBlack 2 жыл бұрын

I think Anne’s will shows great generosity. From what little I know about historical fashion, her gift of cloth to her servants was probably more of use to them than jewelry would have been. The cloth was often the most expensive part of clothing and would be reused/remade repeatedly as the fashion changed. (This is part of the reason extant garments are rare) I also think the will hints at Anne’s potential of having been a good queen, had Henry given her the chance. Off topic: this video ended up being the perfect length for being my dinner companion tonight! Have a good week and see you next Friday!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, clothing was a real asset and constantly reused. You're quite right that that's part of the reason so little of it survives now. Glad the video was a good length for you. Have a lovely weekend too :-)

@jscho8674 2 жыл бұрын

I have always been so fascinated with Anne of Cleves. She was by far my favorite of Henry's wives. This is the first time I have heard the details of her will. Amazing. I am not at all surprised she took care of her servants the way she did.

@gospelaccordingtojohn8959 2 жыл бұрын

I’m surprised Anne of Cleves’ last words weren’t “ Whew, that was a close one”.

@robertpizor577 2 жыл бұрын

It's such a shame that she wasn't queen of England for longer as she seems to have been a kind and gracious lady. I think she also could have at least tried to bring some much needed frugality to Henry's court as she seems to have known a thing or two about money management. I knew there was a reason she was my favorite of the six wives. Very savvy woman. Thanks for the upload!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think she could have been a good Queen with more time to explore her role too.

@amymahers2957 2 жыл бұрын

What an interesting subject. From her life and death I believe she was a lady of dignity, grace, humbleness, and appreciation. She was given more for her willingness to accept less. I think she was a good person who knew and respected that her life could have been very different. Thank you for this look into a very special lady.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome. Yes, her will is so interesting, especially as the only written will any of the six wives made. I love your turn of phrase by the way, that she was given more for accepting less. :-)

@Murph52 2 жыл бұрын

Her last will and testament along with her ability to navigate a very difficult situation with Henry VIII reflect an intelligent, compassionate woman with a very high EQ. If Henry would have appreciated these qualities, I suspect that she could have proven to be a very capable Queen, ally and advisor to Henry.

@jennamcguire5067 2 жыл бұрын

Anne is my favorite of Henry’s wives. She seems the most genuine and sincere. Does anyone else get giddy when HistoryCalling notification bells go off to let you know there is a new video?!!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you. Maybe I should have notifications on for my channel though, as I actually forgot yesterday was Friday and didn't remember my video had gone live until 7.20pm (when I was rather inconveniently standing in the shower!)

@TheJanabeke 2 жыл бұрын

She's my favorite too!!

@spmoran4703 2 жыл бұрын

I admire Anne. She lived a gracious life despite the fact that he called her awful names . She , was a brave woman.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, you never read a bad word about her in the sources (except from Henry of course).

@edithengel2284 2 ай бұрын

@@HistoryCalling As reported in a thesis online, entitled "Anne of Cleves: Enigmatic Queen," the "Flanders Mare" quote is apocryphal: 'Gilbert Burnet, the Bishop of Salisbury, in his 1679 book about Henry VIII, first mentioned Anne as a Flanders Mare. Burnet did not quote any sources for the “Flanders Mare” comment and since he was not a contemporary of Henry VIII, his label has normally been taken as false.I'

@TomokoAbe_ Жыл бұрын

Very interesting life and I had no idea she left a Will. It makes sense she died of cancer since she was ill for a while. Thank you for this fascinating video!

@reverie6034 2 жыл бұрын

The Tudors show isn’t a paragon of historical accuracy but there is a scene in it where Henry visits Anne and his children are all there in the house. They have a lovely family dinner and she and Henry play cards. You see him at the end looking around and it’s clear he’s wondering if he made a huge mistake by divorcing her. He probably could have had a gentle and happy life with her that would have brought his family together. I love that scene. Anne of Cleves was the winner at the end.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

The real Henry seems to have been content in his choice though. He could have taken her back after the Katherine Howard debacle, but chose not to.

@reverie6034 2 жыл бұрын

This is true. I guess I like to think he knew she won. Does that make me a bad person? 😂

@carlycrays2831 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Well, of course. Because that would mean he would have to admit that he was wrong. And besides, many people just work better as friends.

@emilybarclay8831 Жыл бұрын

@@carlycrays2831 plus, Henry annulled the marriage legally speaking due to Anne’s precontract to Francis of Lorraine who was still alive after Catherine Howard’s execution. To remarry her was to declare that he had no valid reason to annul the marriage in the first place

@morganamarvel7075 Жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling In The Tudors, at some later point, Henry seems to feel the waters with her on getting closer but she tactfully demures. Who knows what really happened.

@Rat_Queen86 2 жыл бұрын

What a truly lovely woman she was. My favourite of all of Henry’s wives

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I like her too :-)

@theresareynolds3133 2 жыл бұрын

From the pictures I’ve seen, she was very pretty, she’s always been described as quiet, polite, loving, caring and respectful. She was to good for Henry, by Henry calling her his sister, it’s a shame he never discussed her getting married to a good man. After the divorce or annulment he did take extremely good care of her

@ns-wz1mx 2 жыл бұрын

don’t know why i’ve always loved anne but i just love her!! i feel like her will shows how kind of a person she was. it’s kind of a funny thought to be like here’s 4 pounds to use towards mourning me 🤣 excellent video!

@heidibee501 2 жыл бұрын

I think she felt that mourning HER should not cost them although in those days the mourning process reflected on the mourner. She knew that might be taken into account when they sought new employment. Just as she gave foreign employees travel expenses. I don't think she missed anything. This gives me so much more of a sense as to who she was.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I like Anne too. Leaving money for mourning is a common thing to see in wills of this time, as cloth was expensive and you didn't want onlookers to think that no one cared that you'd died :-)

@ns-wz1mx 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling very true! 👑 💰

@premkumarrithuparnan9049 2 жыл бұрын

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@alisonridout 2 жыл бұрын

What a lovely lady she seemed. So kind and thoughtful

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think so too. :-)

@Kjane. 2 жыл бұрын

Of all, I believe Anne of Cleves to not only to be the luckiest of King Henry's wives, but the wisest, humble, caring & most gracious. She is certainly a Lady of many admirable traits with a loving heart. ♥ Thank you for sharing/educating us. 🤗

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed the video.

@orlando1a1 2 жыл бұрын

I think what Anne's will reveals is how shrewd she was at maintaining her status post her husband's death, along with amassing a wealth denied to all but the very few in Tudor England. The fact she didn't contest Henry's request for a divorce put her in a very good position with him. I often wonder how the history of England would have looked if Catherine of Aragon had been as compliant as Anne was. Thank you History Calling for another fascinating and well researched video.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes, had Catherine of Aragon been agreeable to an annulment, things might look very different indeed. There might have been time for Anne Boleyn to produce a boy for one thing.

@MultiDane007 2 жыл бұрын

Obviously she wasn’t just highly intelligent for navigating the court without bringing scandal or hurt to anyone, she stands out as being gracious and compassionate.

@claire2088 2 жыл бұрын

ensuring her servants are supported seems thoughtful- it sounds like she wanted to ensure everyone had the means to find a new position/go home/get married ect. they were fairly prosaic and practical gifts but it does feel like she cared for their wellbeing long term. Equally no clue if this is standard for wills of the time or not

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Leaving some money for servants and for mourning is standard enough. Anne could afford to be more generous than most I suppose, as she had no children to leave anything to. Money for travel back to another country is less common.

@theshadows8841 2 жыл бұрын

Anne of Cleves is my favorite of all the wives, or Queens of England, for that matter. She was smart, beautiful, and savvy enough, yet humble enough to know part in all of the madness with her husband and his wives and his quest for marital bliss!

@carlycrays2831 Жыл бұрын

I know people have accused Anne of being simple or too sweet, but I think even if she wasn't very cultured or as educated as some of the other women of the court, she knew her limits. She knew how to lay low and play sweet.

@davidlancaster8152 2 жыл бұрын

Very good! Wasn't sure I would like it but it's a great episode. The illustration and animated portraits are stunning. The jewelry is tastefully documented. Another gem this video is. Thanks for doing all you do. Appreciate. Lvya

@diogenes5654 2 жыл бұрын

I love her even more than I did before this video. Thanks.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome Elizabeth :-)

@angelagendreau3586 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos. The realistic, life-like pictures were a nice touch. Well done. I can't wait for the next one.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Angela :-)

@Shineon83 Жыл бұрын

….The kindness of this sweet woman really comes through in her will….One can actually hear her voice

@robertdudley4017 2 жыл бұрын

Ann seemed a very kind generous lady, she thought about and gave gifts to the poor and also all her servants, and all her family and friends to, I'd like to think all her wishes were carried out as per her will, thank you HC as always😊👍

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too. I wish I knew for sure though.

@robertdudley4017 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling sadly HC the answer you seek is lost in the mists of time, it would be nice but I think not. 😊

@robertdudley4017 2 жыл бұрын

One mystery I would like to know the answer to is that of Amy Robsart, was it murder or Accident, that's only one of many mysteries I would like answers to,

@ns-wz1mx 2 жыл бұрын

anne of cleves has always held a special place in my heart 💜 cant wait to watch!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Fortunately for her, she didn't have a place in Henry's and lived a much longer and less stressful life because of it I suspect. :-)

@ns-wz1mx 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling hahaha love that! so true!! she did way better off in that way😂🙌🏻

@itsmainelyyou5541 2 жыл бұрын

Anna von Kleve was a remarkable, wily, and pragmatic woman. I would've loved to have a conversation and take some wine with her. I think she would have been great fun to be around as well as a powerful guide and ally. You would find a friend, indeed.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think I'd like her too. We'd need a translator though as I don't speak German.

@Thatsmegigi 2 жыл бұрын

I love learning these little details! Your videos are awesome! When I’ve had a bad day, I turn on your videos to calm me down (and educate me at the same time). Thank you for sharing these, and here’s to many more!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad the videos help to cheer you up. There are certainly more to come (in fact the next 6 are already done and uploaded to the system, just waiting to go live!)

@Shan_Dalamani 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling The facial animations are creepy.

@deborahfedge4272 Жыл бұрын

I do the same thing: the videos help me relax, help exit today’s world and troubles and I learn at the same time.

@lindamoore9059 2 жыл бұрын

Such a tactful kind and thoughtful lady! She obviously loved graciously and gave generously! The ring you mentioned with an H and I could be a ring of Jane Seymours, the initial "I" for Ioanna (Joanna / Joan/ Jane) , and intertwined with an H suggests that Henry might have had it made for Jane during her Queenship.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I wondered that too, but I couldn't see why Anne would have such an item. 🤔 One of life's little mysteries I guess.

@LKMNOP Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. You did a wonderful job. You brought forth the character of Anne as derived from her will and that's not easy to do.

@johnthresher259 2 жыл бұрын

Great content as always. Keep 'em coming! Clearly Anne made the best of the hand that life had dealt her and she was a lot better off than the vast majority of people in Tudor times. I'm not sure about the trend to animate old paintings. It works well for actual photographs from the 19th century onwards though.

@michellebruce5092 2 жыл бұрын

Great video I enjoyed it can't wait to see more of your live videos soon. Your history lesson videos are always enjoyable 😀

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Michelle :-)

@nancyhilliard1634 2 жыл бұрын

Anne was a very lucky, kind Queen I’m glad she lived although short a good life ❤

@namaschu2126 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for this interesting video. Especially the moving pictures of Anne of Cleeves and the others. It feels like you can get a closer look at the Person👍📼

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Some people hate the moving images, but I think they make the portraits a bit more interesting.

@jumaris28 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your teaching videos , even so English isn’t my first language I love to listen to you and learn about UK Tudor history , your lovely accent makes it even more interesting!! Thank you and Blessings 🙏🏼😘

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome MJ. Thank you for watching and supporting the channel.

@debbylou5729 2 жыл бұрын

Henry blew it. She was intelligent, thoughtful, and honest. They would've made a power couple. Meanwhile the king made a point to run after women who were eye candy, well except Seymour, maybe she was a woman where it is in the eye of the holder. Her time being locked away during her earlier years, I think this made her patient and aware of the actions of her mother and brother. An actor who suffered abuse stated that being in that situation creates someone who can 'read a room' almost instantly. She could've been a great ambassador for England

@JuliahistoryLover 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos 💕

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much :-)

@nathanfisher1826 2 жыл бұрын

Great job , thanks!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Nathan. Have a great weekend :-)

@nathanfisher1826 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Thank you! We are camping with family, about 20 people give or take, you also have a great weekend!!

@CountessKitten 2 жыл бұрын

I freakin' LOVE your channel! 😍😘

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Why thank you Duchess :-)

@rebeccamanchester5016 2 жыл бұрын

While leaving cloth for mourning clothes seems impersonal I think it was clever on Anne's part. The servants would not have to use the money left to them to buy the cloth (which could be pricey even when cheap).

@timefoolery 2 жыл бұрын

I’m curious as to how Hever Castle ended up in the possession of the crown. The Boleyn family owned it outright, as they had purchased it long before Anne came into being. I suppose it might’ve been seized by Henry as a means of punishment, but her parents were still living and owned the place through inheritance until their deaths, and I know Mary lived at the family’s other residence, Blickling Hall. Might be an interesting topic to look into one day.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I haven't checked admittedly, but Owen Emmerson's channel might cover that topic.

@edithengel2284 2 ай бұрын

According to the Hever Castle site: "In addition, Henry allowed Anne to lease a number of manors to enhance her status and income, including Hever, at an annual rent of £9-13s-3½d. Hever Castle had become Crown property after the death of Thomas Boleyn in 1539. As Thomas’ male heir, George, had been executed in 1536, Hever had passed to Thomas’ brother, Sir James Boleyn, who sold it to King Henry VIII for £200 on 31st December 1540."

@jypsywith_a_jae7575 2 жыл бұрын

Anne was a whole stimulus for the communities in her responsibility. She would have been a good queen in the actual role had she been allowed.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think she would have been good at the job too, had she had more time to settle into it.

@simonvanelten1792 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, this is probably not that interesting for you, but I deal a lot with the history of cleves and may be able to help you with the Waldeck question.The Count of Waldeck meant here was indeed her cousin. He was the son of Anna's aunt, who was also called Anna and the daughter of Duke Johann II. of Cleves. Behind her marriage lies, by the way, also a quite a tragic love story... only this time with a happy end. Anna had married Philipp III of Waldeck, who was not really a promising match for her rank, on her own volition and in secret. To prevent the consummation of the marriage, her own brother (Johann III.) held her captive for several years. But she stood firm and prevailed in the end. In many respects a truly unusual story in those times. Greetings from Germany :)

@melanieh8261 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

THANK YOU so much for your generous donation Melanie, which is very much appreciated :-)

@melanieh8261 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling It was my pleasure, and you're most welcome! Loved the video! Very respectfully and well done. I really like Anne, she seemed humble of spirit, generous and very charitable. Henry VIII lost a precious gem, but lucky for Anne in the end I suppose... Have a lovely weekend!

@leticiagarcia9025 2 жыл бұрын

A very thoughtful, loyal and kind woman comes to mind. I think she was clever too. She was the only of six wives who’s buried in Westminster Abbey. In my opinion she was the luckiest of the six wives. Thank you. I was looking forward to history Friday more than ever. I live in San Antonio Texas. I use to live in Uvalde Texas thirty years ago. My son went to Robb Elementary. This week was tragic. 😢 Thank you again. Have a great weekend. 😊

@sheilatruax6172 2 жыл бұрын

So sorry for your loses. The country mourns with you. Texan in Denver

@leticiagarcia9025 2 жыл бұрын

@@sheilatruax6172 Thank you 🙏

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Oh Leticia, I'm so sorry to see that you used to live in Ulvalde and know the school. I'm sure you still know people in the area too. We've been watching it on the news here in the UK as well and everyone's hearts just break at what happened.

@leticiagarcia9025 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Yes I still have a lot of friends there. I know a few of the parents who have children in the school. They didn’t lose their child but, they look like they had. My daughter drove me to Uvalde last Thursday to lay flowers at the school and spend some time with my friends. We brought arts and crafts for every child from the school to try to put a smile on the children. The whole thing was so surreal and heartbreaking. When I lived there I never imagined something this evil happening here in this small Texas town. I never imagine to see journalists from the UK, Germany, Mexico and even South Korea. So now the whole world knows how incompetent the law enforcement was. They also know the hypocrisy of the Republican Party is. I’m not sure if gun reform will pass by Congress bipartisan but, at least some talking. Ted Cruz, who I hate, went to the NRA convention in Houston to speak and said guns don’t kill people, people with guns kill people. Ugh! I’m tired of hearing excuses. In the nineties they blamed it on violent video games and now they blame it on mental illness. It’s one excuse after another. Only in America you see mass shootings. The weapon mass shooters use is the AF15. When I worked as a nurse, until covid sent me into retirement, I have seen many gunshot victims. The AR15 has caused more carnage on a body than a hand weapon or a rifle. Poor innocent victims. We deserve better from our elected officials.

@AnnaAnna-uc2ff Жыл бұрын

Tthank you.

@angelwhispers2060 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that she provided the cloth which was always the most expensive part of making any garment especially back then makes perfect sense for the time period. Any cloth that could possibly cost 13 Shillings the yard was some really nice s*** and I'm sure they were perfectly happy to wear it. As then they would have clothes to go into mourning for anyone else in their family presumably for the rest of their lives as long as they didn't change size too much. Having such ritually significant Garments paid for by your Patron so that you could mourn them properly and have the use of those clothes for the rest of your life was actually a pretty big burden off of these people who had served her for so long. Though it's not stated I'm sure it was implied that the household Tailor would simply make up the appropriate garments with the fabric purchased. So it's not like she was expecting them to make their own clothes. Servants would have had very little cause to interact directly with their mistress except to report to her or show off something when they were done. Ensuring that their wages were paid for the year so that they could take care of themselves until they could find new employment for the winter was a perfectly reasonable bequeath for each of them. They would have had no expectation of anything grander. At this time the rents were done in quarters and that is why she wanted her household to remain open so that all of the rent for the quarter in which she died could be collected to handle her debts and bequeaths. Nearly all clothing from this time would have been mended, altered and redesigned for the remainder of the owner's life. Even in Queen Elizabeth's England there as still a strong tradition of mourning by wearing all black even though the fashion for what those clothes look like for men and women had altered. It would be completely reasonable to piece the new style out of the old using the fine fabric of a former patron's granting. For really nicely made cloth the garments for morning wear could be passed down through two or three generations. I am certain the cloth made for morning such a high-status individual would be made very durable. The most important thing to learn from her will is that she increased the marriage portion for the maids of Honor who were living with her. She wanted to make sure that these girls could make good marriages at least a little above their station by virtue of these very nice dowrys. By sending one of the girls to Elizabeth she was clearly hoping that her former step-daughter would assist the young woman in making a good marriage. It may also have been a consideration for the fact that the girl had no surviving male relatives to make such arrangements for her. There by giving her to The Royal Heir Apparent Elizabeth could protect her from Mary if there was any bad blood between them. Ann would have been perfectly aware of that Elizabeth was still Protestant and the servant may also have been Protestant and therefore in need of such protection.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, gifting clothes or cloth was a big deal. No fast fashion back then - poorer people had few items of clothing and they were made to last. There was much less waste than today.

@vampiraJ Жыл бұрын

100% agree

@stephencarrillo5905 2 жыл бұрын

A cloudy and dreary day in Albany, CA; your fascinating video is just what I needed to improve my mood. The details of her will provide a deeper dive into Anne's character and a reflection of the times in which she lived, I think. At least her privilege provided her with the opportunity to leave a legacy in a time when women were subjugated throughout all levels of society. I'd like to think things have improved somewhat. Thanks for another unique perspective of Tudor history. See you next week! 👏🙏🏼

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Northern Ireland, where the sun is actually shining for once (it won't last). Yes, I'd like to think things are dramatically better now too, at least in the UK. See you next week!

@owlivdejong5086 2 жыл бұрын

In a way Anne lead a life of servitude and I think that made her very compassionate. I bet she envied her 8 servants that she sent home and I hope everyone got what she wanted them to have.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I hope her wishes were followed too and would love to know if they were.

@isabeldorado1085 2 жыл бұрын

Excelente

@onagaali2024 2 жыл бұрын

Anne of Cleves was a very selfless dignified woman. I think she was in the list of the most beautiful as well out of Henry VIII's wives. Her ending of marriage to him certainly got her a great allotment and gravy train. She was the most fortunate of the 6 wives if you asked me.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I think so too :-)

@onagaali2024 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling right. I didn't catch your video until Saturday but I did listen to all of it. Anne of Cleves' story was a winner compared and non compared to the rest of the other 5.

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

Another great vid, & another great family tree! I liked the descriptions of the jewels- the royal & noble jewellery of that era is more interesting than today's, & some of Anne's sounded a bit unusual, so it was fun to imagine it. I like how she gave rings with fancy jewels to men, which was ofc the fashion. Was it standard to leave your ladies marriage portions? And to provide mourning clothes/fabric? Fabric does seem to be mentioned a lot in things like wills & descriptions of events.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

The mourning fabric was pretty common, yes. I'm less sure about the marriage portions. There weren't that many single, rich women with no children who made wills to compare Anne to. I like to think she was being extra generous though :-)

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling It was definitely a very kind gift, & it'd make a big difference to the ladies' lives & prospects.

@istoppedcaring6209 Жыл бұрын

this is great but it would be amazing if you referenced your sources using an academical bibliography in the description i say this because this content is at an academic level, it is based on sources, it is well argumented, I could certainly send it to my professors and they would enjoy it for sure

@cindyaraya7317 Жыл бұрын

I feel such pity for Anne of Cleves! I wish that I knew what she died of. May you Rest in Peace Anne!

@vickit7149 2 жыл бұрын

It’s been three days since I’ve heard “hello and welcome to history calling” I don’t know how I’ve survived

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks Vicki :-)

@michaelhigdon4120 2 жыл бұрын

Would you please, please, please consider making a video where you share your reaction to Six the Musical? I would love that, and I am sure others would as well. Thank you!

@stephaniehand503 2 жыл бұрын

thank you

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome :-)

@beastieber5028 2 жыл бұрын

Good evening to history calling from Bea stieber

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Bea :-)

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Interesting, and so glad she wasn't lumbered with Henry and the inevitable misery and possibly execution she would have suffered. May she rest in peace.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I like to think he wouldn't have executed her as she was foreign royalty, but you just never know with Henry.

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling It would have sparked big trouble with Germany, and he already had trouble with Spain and France. You have a good point there. Maybe that is why he went relatively easy on her.

@anneofcleveswithinternet 2 жыл бұрын

I like this

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I can see why :-)

@steveellis7742 2 жыл бұрын

What an interesting insight into the generosity in death of Anne, I wonder if any of the rings still survive today .

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

None that I'm aware of sadly :-(

@sarahwatts7152 2 жыл бұрын

I would guess that the stones may be in other pieces - the setting would go out of fashion and I'm sure it made sense at the time to disassemble the rings

@Ceibhfhionn 2 жыл бұрын

Superb video as always! To follow the thread of the HI ring being formerly for Henricus and Ioanna (Jane), is there any evidence that Henry had monogrammed items refashioned for wives? We do know several had monogrammed items designed for them, with your video commenting on a HA jewel of Anne’s and the extant Holbeins designs for other H+ monogram - correct? I’m curious because in The Wolf Hall series a few specific jewelled items including a miniature prayer book are refashion from HK (or was it C?) to HA and then again to HI, much to the entertainment of the narrator Cromwell who attributes it to Henry being a bit chea rather than a conscious desire to obliterate the precious wife’s legacy. Mantell alludes to other initials or even motifs, like the pomegranate of Aragon, that would assiduously removed from fabrics or windows or wood carvings upon the change of queens - but it’s a fictional Series.

@Ceibhfhionn 2 жыл бұрын

Please excuse my typos! Can’t get back into make edits. Meant that the character Cromwell thinks Henry has these romantic couple’s monogrammed jewels redone out of stinginess rather than malice. ;) Your video was superb as always.

@florian8599 Жыл бұрын

Anne of Cleves was the daughter of a biconfessional couple: Her father was Lutheran-ish (he actually tended to a "middle way") and her mother was Catholic and was the one raising Anne and her sisters in a conservative manner. Also, it was still the early Age of Confessionalization. So it stands to reason, that Anne had no problems aligning her outward expression of faith with that of the respective ruler. Also, while under Henry VIII, the Church of England was still technically Catholic -- without Pope and monasteries, mind -- and it was under Edward, when Protestantism became more influential in the English Church.

@suejenkins9710 2 жыл бұрын

The odd sum of £66-something it was may well have represented a sum held (or to be paid for some reason) in Scottish merks/marks. The fact that £66 is roughly two-thirds of £100 always gives rise to a suspicion that the calculation has originally been made in some currency that uses base 3, of which the Scottish merk is the most likely candidate. Perhaps Anne simply had some merks in her treasury and wanted to pass them on to people who could make good use of them. Also, 'H & I' would refer to Henry and Jane (Seymour), the I and the J being virtually interchangeable in those days - especially where 'devices' were concerned.

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

That's really interesting! Currency was ridiculously complex just in England in that era, & it's brilliant that you could spot a possible explanation in _Scottish_ currency!

@ron271828 2 жыл бұрын

In fact £66 13s 4d is exactly one third of £200.

@morganamarvel7075 Жыл бұрын

I've read she was the richest woman in England in her time. I guess that was on paper. At least she found a social circle to enjoy & was highly regarded all around. I imagine she may have liked a proper marriage & children. Like so many of the day, she departed the earth in the prime of life. Too sad. Very gracious, kind-hearted woman. ❤

@AAdams-un2ly Жыл бұрын

Cleves is 1 of my favorites!!!

@elizabethsands4470 5 ай бұрын

Just adored Anne of Cleeves 🥀👑🥀👑

@bevinboulder5039 2 жыл бұрын

Ann was obviously a kind, generous woman. She very well could have been a great Queen for England. Thanks for another very informative post. Why wouldn't we watch to the end? Do you have a way to see that some viewers don't? I'm curious.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

KZfaq analytics shows something called 'viewer retention' which shows the percentage of people still watching at different parts of the video. It always goes down as the video progresses.

@bevinboulder5039 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling Shaking my head. Can't imagine not watching to the end.

@acecarroll3382 2 жыл бұрын

She was very thoughtful

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

She was indeed. Everyone seems to have liked her.

@naomiskilling1093 2 жыл бұрын

So not only was she the luckiest wife but also apparently the richest if her will is anything to go by. Also, I'm not sure if I'm correct in this or not but, another reason Anne Boleyn and Katherine Howard didn't make wills was because their attainture for treason actively stripped them of any property they may have wanted to bequeath? I imagine there would have been items that Anne specifically would have intended to go to Elizabeth if she had the power to do so.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think you may be right.

@heidibee501 2 жыл бұрын

Wow! I thought l was efficient. She approached her death with incredible Teutonic thoroughness, responsibilty and kindness. And she appears to have been a fairly attractive woman. I wonder why she failed to appeal to him. She would probaby have made a great queen.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I think it just came down to her accidentally offending him the first time they met. Henry's ego was pretty fragile by that point.

@WayToVibe 2 жыл бұрын

When she and Henry first met, he came into the room she was standing in, dressed in plain clothing, and tried to kiss her. She, being affianced to the king himself, did not return the gesture. This slighted Henry. He wanted her to fall deeply in love with him just by sight, and completely failed to understand that young women who were already engaged did not partake in such behaviors as loving a man who is not her intended at first sight. He left, coming back later dressed as the king he actually was and introduced himself. However, having mistaken her virtue for coldness, his ego took a hit and he never got over it. Later, they went on to become very good friends so I think that they must have talked it out eventually. She'd have been a very, very good queen for England, but Henry wanted passion in a wife and there just wasn't any of that between them.

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

I am very pleased and relieved for her that she didn't become Queen though.

@b.m.t.h.3961 2 жыл бұрын

What a fabulous Queen!

@manuellubian5709 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen another video that indicated that Anne supposedly, "wanted" to remain in England, NOT that she was bound to.

@edithengel2284 2 ай бұрын

She was bound to by the terms of her agreement with Henry. Whether she wanted to leave, especially after Henry died I don't know, but I've read that she wanted to go home then but was refused by Edward.

@janstaz 2 жыл бұрын

I like Anne, she had a nice kind face. To good for Henry shame she died quite young.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more :-)

@deborahbrittonoffor5709 6 ай бұрын

I think Anne was thankful that she lived and that Henry. The eighth was so generous with her. She was a kind and generous soul that love the people. And it seemed like she served them not so much them serving her.

@yathome5596 2 жыл бұрын

Anne of Cleves, the luckiest girl in the world ❤️❤️❤️ married Henry VIII and lived to tell the tale. He wanted a divorce and Anne said no problem. They became good friends and lived a good life. Wealthy and free!

@user-hd1xv7hj5x 11 ай бұрын

I wish they made a movie inspired from her life as a Shadow Queen

@raumaanking 2 жыл бұрын

History calling do you think if Anne Boleyn was never executed and got a divorce and went to a nunnery and Cathrine Howard was sent to the Tower of London until Henry died do you think if Anne was in a nunnery she would receive letters from Jane Seymour Anne of cleaves Cathrine Howard and Cathrine Parr on how Elizabeth is doing? and do you think if Cathrine Howard got a divorce and stayed in the Tower of London would she be freed when Edward when he became king? since Mary burned Protestants how long would Anne Boleyn have stayed living during Mary reign? could Cathrine Howard also be in a scary position during Mary reign? and if they were both still alive when Elizabeth becomes queen could they gain power again? thanks and love your video of Anne of Cleaves

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not very good at historical what ifs I'm afraid, but I believe Reading the Past did a video a couple of weeks ago on what would have happened if Henry VIII's son, Henry Fitzroy, had lived. I think it would be right up your street, if you haven't seen it yet.

@vernon2542 2 жыл бұрын

Great job Anne was very generous.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

She was indeed. :-)

@kevinjamesparr552 2 жыл бұрын

The power of that ages past and what have we?

@marianparoo1544 2 жыл бұрын

My favourite among his wives!

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think I'd like her if we met in person too.

@Marcus51090 2 жыл бұрын

Did Queen Mary get on with Anne? i am a bit confused because I recall reading that Anne used to complain she was strapped for cash sounds like she was one of the richest woman in the country You know what, Anne sounds like a really nice person, she shows more compassion than most people today, I just hope she had a good life

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I believe she did, yes. I wonder too how she became 'strapped for cash', but I suppose that phrase is relative. What Anne considered to be poor, most people would have thought of as wealthy in the extreme.

@Marcus51090 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling wait a min! The Cleves family married into the Franco Austrian family, so that must mean that cleves would be related to Marie Antoinette all be it not close (considering the time difference) but still a blood relation

@AxeMichi 2 жыл бұрын

I apologize if this is a repeat, as my first comment may have been flagged for including an outside link, but could the initials of 'H and I' be a reference to Henry VIII and Jane Seymour? There is a drawing of a cup designed for Jane extant in the British Museum, designed by Hans Holbein, which depicts one of Henry's favorite love knots and has their initials depicited as 'H and I'. Thank you for another great video!

@katjack2780 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of that too, but what would Anne be doing with such a ring? Perhaps it was part of whatever jewelry they had started to give her as queen and it never got taken back for Katherine Howard.

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

@@katjack2780 I thought that too, but also thought it'd be weird for Anne to have a Henry-&-Jane ring. And I can't imagine greedy Henry forgetting about anything valuable .

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, H & I would usually mean Henry and Jane, but like yourself and Kat Jack, I wondered too what on earth Anne would have such a ring for, especially as Jane was already dead by the time Anne came to England. One of life's little mysteries I suppose. Yes, I'm afraid comments with links don't get past the KZfaq filters.

@AxeMichi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your answer. I can also understand the complexity around the why, especially when we probably can't ever know unless another primary source turns up. Maybe in fifty years we'll be pleasantly surprised.

@anjea9759 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent. Please note that coins, in several transitional images that were used, are coins of the United States of America.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I know. They're just there for illustrative purposes. Unfortunately I'm limited in the free footage I can get a hold of to use in the videos, so I can't always use precisely what I'd like to.

@savagedarksider5934 2 жыл бұрын

There are two things I want to say first-One, my yorkie dog love your channel ? And two, How have your day been ? Anne got off pretty lucky compared to the others. I got A question, did you know that Henry 8th was supposed to marry Eleanor of Austria but decided to marry Catherine of Aragon ?

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear I have a strong canine following. My day has been good thank you. No, actually. I didn't know that about Henry. Eleanor dodged a bullet there :-)

@stephencarrillo5905 2 жыл бұрын

We've always had schnauzers but yorkies ROCK!

@savagedarksider5934 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephencarrillo5905 My Yokie name is BJ and he loves children.

@beth7935 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that! I assume you mean Catherine's niece Eleanor, daughter of Philip of Hapsburg & Juana of Castile? If so, that's kinda hilarious, cos before Henry married Anne of Cleves, there was talk of him marrying Maria of Portugal, & she was Eleanor's daughter! (Mary I was going to marry Maria's half-brother Luis of Portugal at the same time.)

@savagedarksider5934 2 жыл бұрын

@@beth7935 For your first thing, yes-There were talks in having Henry to marry Eleanor of Austria but Henry decided to go with Catherine of Aragon instead. As for your other thing, did Maria of Portugal ever had sex ?

@117Pinkyflower Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t you love to see those jewels today!

@jacquelinenoble6640 2 жыл бұрын

I think she must have been a kind benevolent woman.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I think so too. No one seems to have had a bad word to say about her (apart from Henry in 1540 that is).

@jacquelinenoble6640 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling To me she made the most of what was dealt her ,she was shrewd and very aware i would think of maybe how precarious her position could be. She made a life for herself and took her responsibilities fairly.

@GeistView 2 жыл бұрын

What is the program used to do the animation?

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

My Heritage.

@edortiz4496 2 жыл бұрын

Is there anything in Anne's writings that mentions how she reacted or what she said about King Henry VIII calling her ugly? Surely she had something to say about that and she had plenty of time to say it, even after his death. Or maybe her siblings wrote something about that?

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure she (or they) ever knew about his comments, but she did say when he married Catherine Parr that she (Anne) was more attractive than CP.

@mimimatasar3699 2 жыл бұрын

Fabulous! Unlucky in love , but a survivor.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely :-)

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

Btw, I once owned a small book of Henry's love poems to Anne Boleyn. He knew how to use words to elicit love! Unbelievably romantic. To think he most certainly wrote the same or similar to other wives before divorcing or having them beheaded 😒 and similar words to his mistresses. It is no wonder AB still believed he was misled about her committing adultery and incest and that if she could only speak with him he would believe her, as he must surely still love her after such prose (I completely disbelieve she committed adultery let alone incest. I am convinced it was that he wanted out of the marriage and manipulated others to accuse her and elicit so called 'confessions').

@itsmainelyyou5541 2 жыл бұрын

Hence the stony resolute response at Anne's adulterous revelation and the wailing and gnashing of teeth at the 'indiscretions' of his Rose Without a Thorn, little Kitty Howard.

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

@@itsmainelyyou5541 If Catherine Howard did commit adultery (rather than false allegations) then I can't say I blame her. A lot of women and girls were given no choice as to who to marry, as poor Jane Grey wasn't. Ambitious families imposing unwanted cruel, dirty old men on teenagers and young women only in their early twenties. For all the privileges such as decent food every day, a roof over their heads, they luxurious clothes, lack of physically hard work, jewels etc (which could be removed in an instant). I bet a fair few of them would have swapped lives with not too impoverished peasants if they could have, and the lives of peasants were not easy but at least they weren't usually forced into unwanted unions with old, physically dirty psychopaths. Mind, the last bit - I think a lot of them only bathed once a year whether they needed it or not.

@HistoryCalling 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's hard to look at what he wrote to her and think that it's the same person who went on to have her killed on trumped up charges :-(

@angr3819 2 жыл бұрын

@@HistoryCalling So true.