Annie Jacobsen on Nuclear War - a Second by Second Timeline

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Future of Life Institute

Future of Life Institute

Күн бұрын

Annie Jacobsen joins the podcast to lay out a second by second timeline for how nuclear war could happen. We also discuss time pressure, submarines, interceptor missiles, cyberattacks, and concentration of power. You can find more on Annie's work at anniejacobsen.com
Timestamps:
00:00 A scenario of nuclear war
06:56 Who would launch an attack?
13:50 Detecting nuclear attacks
19:37 The first critical seconds
29:42 Decisions under time pressure
34:27 Lessons from insiders
44:18 Submarines
51:06 How did we end up like this?
59:40 Interceptor missiles
1:11:25 Nuclear weapons and cyberattacks
1:17:35 Concentration of power

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@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 Ай бұрын
She’s calmly and lovingly explaining to a cherished young person how they’re going to be incinerated with love
@Sunbronx_
@Sunbronx_ 17 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@rob-wh4ns
@rob-wh4ns 16 күн бұрын
Our liberal friends would call it World Love Three, It; 's like Orwell's 1984 is holey scripture today
@Spaceflightlover2010
@Spaceflightlover2010 Ай бұрын
She should make a relaxation audio for playing when the bombs drop. Just some herbal tea and her voice. Ahhh, so peaceful (blinding flash).
@Dannoga
@Dannoga 22 күн бұрын
I haven't read a book in 30 years, I read this 400-page book in 4 days. Incredible information as bleak and terrifying as it is, a must read to understand how close we are to destruction.
@atmannityananda-autognosia
@atmannityananda-autognosia 16 күн бұрын
It is already predicted. It will take place by 2035 at latest. So, think wisely what you will do these 15 years
@yankeedoodle1963
@yankeedoodle1963 2 күн бұрын
@@atmannityananda-autognosiaWhy? What will it matter
@mikedobrovic6837
@mikedobrovic6837 Ай бұрын
Does anyone else find her voice very relaxing? I mean she's talking about the end of the world and I'm still like... ☺️
@shonstoehr6875
@shonstoehr6875 Ай бұрын
Yes, I know what you mean
@SlayerOfheck
@SlayerOfheck Ай бұрын
You'll change your tone very quickly when war comes to your neighbourhood
@bradmills9683
@bradmills9683 Ай бұрын
Agree.. Intellectually turn on
@douglaseuritt3919
@douglaseuritt3919 Ай бұрын
Just the opposite for me. I can’t mesh the serious historian with the constant Valley Girl “right?”that is tossed onto the end of way too many sentences.
@cws8914
@cws8914 Ай бұрын
Yes, she needs to do an ASMR video.
@IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest.
@IAmJaguarPaw.ThisIsMyForest. Ай бұрын
Annie Jacobsen: She is the ultimate Horror/ASMR/Bedtime Story Narrator. Nothing this horrible ever sounded so good.
@pennyscott316
@pennyscott316 Ай бұрын
How wonderful to listen to a well-spoken, articulate, knowledgeable person on possibly the most important subject of our time. I can’t listen to people drunk with emotions, which is most people in mainstream media and to a lesser extent, KZfaq and the like, and people in general. I applaud sober people who speak clearly and intelligently and who don’t spew their emotional energy all over the listener. High praise to Annie and my deepest thanks to her for sharing the facts of such a deeply serious matter in such a calm and reasonable way. Thanks Annie for making palatable, what is unthinkable. I plan to get the audio of this woman’s remarkable book.
@willemjohannessmit9636
@willemjohannessmit9636 Ай бұрын
I agree 100% She'll even put the mozzies here in Africa to sleep! What a soothing voice this lady has. Just imagine her counting down the doomsday missiles. I'll be fast asleep before the first one hits... (What has humanity come to?)
@rikverlinden1169
@rikverlinden1169 23 күн бұрын
​@@willemjohannessmit9636 lol😅
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 17 күн бұрын
Just started to listen to this and she talks about satellites being used for that video call which is likely not the case and machine learning being used to calculate missile trajectories which probably isn't the case now either and definitely wasn't the case before.
@SocioecologicalInterdependance
@SocioecologicalInterdependance Ай бұрын
Even in Canada, the US owns a lab in many upper air stations with air scrubbers that detect radioactive isotopes. These filters are changed regularly and the difference in time between detection between locations allows triangulation of where the isosopes came from. In this way, nuclear incidents or tests above ground cannot be hidden. The Americans can find the location of any such event anywhere on the planet.
@aricohen616
@aricohen616 25 күн бұрын
I’m reading her book now. It’s absolutely eye opening and mind blowing. We are so under prepared for nuclear war.
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 17 күн бұрын
How would you prepare for nuclear war?
@oxydoxxo
@oxydoxxo 16 күн бұрын
By moving as close to a likely fireball zone as possible so it's just lights out before you know anything is different.
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 16 күн бұрын
@@chaddie69 which was obviously my point.
@atmannityananda-autognosia
@atmannityananda-autognosia 16 күн бұрын
You are wrong. We would get up now to obligate all countries to destroy all Nuclear Weapons. But we are unconscious bipedal mammals lost in our imaginary world
@ralphday4842
@ralphday4842 15 сағат бұрын
I will survive. We were taught to duck and cover way back in the 4th grade. 🤣💪
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy Ай бұрын
I just got done with the audiobook. It’s astonishing, frightening and well worth it. Buy this book and share it!
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 Ай бұрын
Way out of date
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy Ай бұрын
@@Exanto777 : In what respect?
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 Ай бұрын
@@eschdaddy Let’s face it, an aggressor nuclear power will look to benefit themselves and not explode radioactive dust around the world. This woman’s assumptions are way out of date. It’s very likely that an aggressor would detonate nuclear bombs 300 miles above another country to destroy its computers and electrical apparatus. After that a more conventional invasion to destroy the population by means of forces including humans and robots.
@eschdaddy
@eschdaddy Ай бұрын
@@Exanto777: Seriously, what are you referring to. Not rhetorical, just wondering your perspective.
@Exanto777
@Exanto777 Ай бұрын
@@eschdaddy what this woman refers to was about right for the 1950s. However, those nuclear armed countries don’t want to cause a radioactive dust cloud to envelope the earth. If they attack, they would explode the bombs about 250 miles above the target country. That would destroy all the step up transformers and put the electrical grid out of business, plus it would destroy all unprotected computers and similar devices in cars etc. The result in the target country would be a disorganised population which would be easy to destroy with more conventional forces containing humans, drones, robots, and land machines. The target country would not be contaminated or badly damaged but entirely cleared of humans. It would not be the end of the world either, though horrific for those in the gun sights. In order to minimise response time for the target country to respond, such ‘clean’ attack would be more feasible from short distance submarine or from space; not from land based silo or bomber. The biggest risk to the world is from the USA which seems to have no plan for any of this and would explode nuclear bombs on an enemy inside the earth atmosphere.
@glenmorgan4597
@glenmorgan4597 22 күн бұрын
Finished reading it last week, is fascinating and frightening
@ShikataGaNai100
@ShikataGaNai100 Ай бұрын
I got the audio book...and, as former USAF Intelligence, I was amazed at the authenticity, the detail, and the horror. It is definitely worth reading or listening to.
@glenmorgan4597
@glenmorgan4597 22 күн бұрын
Just read paperback, you are spot on
@jaypollock9347
@jaypollock9347 Ай бұрын
If we were going to strike N. Korea, wouldn’t we use submarines? Just curious because Annie describes a scenario where we would “go over pole” and Russia using ICBM’s.
@smkinaces2374
@smkinaces2374 Ай бұрын
Yes, we would use the Ohio class subs. In conjunction with icbm. The book goes into great detail about the usage.
@juhokuusisto9339
@juhokuusisto9339 Ай бұрын
Yes. The over the pole thing is just stupid with NK.
@podcastfan2544
@podcastfan2544 Ай бұрын
Her goal as an author is to tie in all the actions in a Nuke War often she uses specific examples to do this so it's not exactly Realistic but the specific actions are. Lastly, she ignores Presidential Directive PD-60 which states we are not in Launch on Warning Mode currently but must absorb a strike before we can retaliate. Check it out for yourself PD-60! ! !
@user-tm9qs7jo9j
@user-tm9qs7jo9j 16 күн бұрын
It would be B-2 spirits and B-21 Raiders dropping bombs. Submarines would only be a first strike option if we knew there would not be a retaliation. Subs are meant to be an automatic retaliation. The moment you launch they can be seen, so it would be highly advantageous to use a stealth bomber so they wouldn't even know it was happening until the bomb bay doors opened.
@ttssa2030
@ttssa2030 Ай бұрын
I grew up in the Soviet Union and we had a nuclear underground concrete shelter next to every school and drill what to do in case of nuclear attack. I don't see any nuclear shelters in major cities in the US, and that nuclear shelters should be constructed and ready asap!
@springer-qb4dv
@springer-qb4dv Ай бұрын
Too late. USA has grown fat and lazy.
@peterphilstacey4698
@peterphilstacey4698 Ай бұрын
why ,,,, you have no chance at all, if your in a shelter near to a bomb, your buried alive anyway.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 Ай бұрын
They are pointless. Sure you might survive the initial blast, but then you'll be dead in the coming weeks due to radiation fallout, starvation, disease, etc. All of society will collapse. There will be no supplies coming in. You simply cannot survive a nuclear war in the long run unless you are some elite mountain man living off the grid in the middle of the woods in a remote country and that's like super rare. 99.9999999999% of the world doesn't have the skills.
@Dragon4Soul
@Dragon4Soul Ай бұрын
There were shelters back in the day but they were only in the big cities for the most part. Some where along the way our government came to the conclusion that you can't protect people with shelters due to the size of the bombs both sides were deploying.
@millsy1861
@millsy1861 28 күн бұрын
Your shelter would be vaporised. Have you not listened to what happens with modern nukes? Anyone in a city is dead.....☹️
@NickDeperto
@NickDeperto Ай бұрын
Bought her book on audible and on amazon to try to support her for doing such great, detailed work. Looking forward to reading it (but at the same time not, lol)
@mholsather
@mholsather Ай бұрын
Great but terrifying book. Absolutely terrifying
@robk8463
@robk8463 Ай бұрын
For such an expert there are a few holes in her information. The US has Attack Subs following every single Russian Sub. Not that the Russian sub-fleet ventures out much anymore. Also, we would not use ICBMs on North Korea. We would use SLBMs (Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles) and/or nuclear-capable cruise missiles.
@chrisevans9688
@chrisevans9688 Ай бұрын
Chris Evans not cool just like you power back and look and time we be you and hope you would love that and look at you do that show that happen now that this is good news soon gool thanks again this morning so you
@robk8463
@robk8463 Ай бұрын
@@chrisevans9688 Are you having a stroke?
@chrisevans9688
@chrisevans9688 Ай бұрын
@@robk8463 Chris Evans just me first so I can help you would love people so I can do anything with them and I can find out now if we do anything from this one day did you take now and see how much is do next week we will talk tomorrow night
@frankadam1800
@frankadam1800 Ай бұрын
True. Russian Subs are outdated except the new Borej A class. They could and would easily being detected and followed by modern attack subs. So they won´t be able to launch their missiles because they will be destroyed before that. The 2 new Borejs might be harder to track. But perhaps they are a hoax like the Armata Tank and other "gamechanger" Russia only has on paper.
@smkinaces2374
@smkinaces2374 Ай бұрын
Icbms are in a fixed location and the location of these nukes are well known. We could lose their capabilities if there was an attack. They also are the quicker option to use as they are out in a minute. It would make sense to use the visible option. Also these sites are considered sponges, they will be attacked because of their visibility.
@3094usmc
@3094usmc 24 күн бұрын
I listen to this when im stressed. Crazy relaxing voice.
@ecleveland1
@ecleveland1 21 күн бұрын
It’s going to happen the only question is when. Humans will never learn not to destroy themselves. If someone has something that you desire and can’t get the response is to take it by force by many people. The reason countries have military’s is not about defending themselves it’s about imposing their countries will on others that think differently.
@daawedge9324
@daawedge9324 15 күн бұрын
' yeah ! , so there !!! "
@darkwinter-lll
@darkwinter-lll Ай бұрын
She needs a netflix show
@Arman-dc6uo
@Arman-dc6uo 27 күн бұрын
She has an amazing voice
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 28 күн бұрын
Sounds like an interesting book. I'll check it out. She's certainly hyping it up; many many interviews on KZfaq.
@crashcrain
@crashcrain Ай бұрын
Smart Author, she wrote a book on people's fears during a time when everyone is afraid. I love Nukes, it's going to suck if you ever hear the "Tang" sound that they create as metal explodes, but just for a fraction of a second. Seriously, don't worry about the Nukes, the day will come when they will be used, all weapons made eventually get used. Instead think about what you are going to do in the event you are lucky or unlucky enough to live?
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085 8 күн бұрын
I think I’m in LOVE 🥰 with Annie ❤️😂
@BRStormysea
@BRStormysea 22 күн бұрын
I'm buying this book.
@goarmysleepinthemud.
@goarmysleepinthemud. Ай бұрын
Glad she is talking about the fallacy of the current U.S interceptor system. I can't believe how many people believe the interceptors are a credible defense in their current guise.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 Ай бұрын
Correct. Deploying a system that would intercept even 80% of nuclear missiles would cost 2 or 3 Trillion dollars. But if we deployed such a system, an adversary could just massively increase decoys to counter. Since decoys cost a tiny fraction of what interceptors cost, you can't ever win this race.
@barracuda7018
@barracuda7018 Ай бұрын
That's true, its better to surrender to Putins Russia even he wants Alaska back, just obey him to prevent a nuclear war 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 Ай бұрын
GBI system definitely not great. However, the sea based SM-3 Block IIA program is very encouraging.
@skenzyme81
@skenzyme81 Ай бұрын
@@danielkennedy2371 Still only good for only a rogue launch or too. Strategically, the interceptor concept totally fails in an actual nuclear war because interceptors cost hundreds of times as much as extra decoys. Intractable problem.
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 Ай бұрын
​@@skenzyme81SPOILER: In the book, it's a rogue ICBM that the interceptors fail to shoot down. And it's the rogue detonation that causes the general nuclear exchange between the superpowers. The book NEEDS a failure to intercept a rogue nuke to set up the general nuclear exchange scenario.
@jackwild8019
@jackwild8019 13 күн бұрын
" My only friend the End " Jim Morrison/The Doors 1967 ⏰️
@Mercury0369
@Mercury0369 8 күн бұрын
I wish the host would have held up Annies book so i know what it looks like ? So i could buy it !
@BinkyTheElf1
@BinkyTheElf1 7 күн бұрын
Google her name, plus “book”.
@scottcampbell8411
@scottcampbell8411 Ай бұрын
She mentions The Day After. British film Threads is much more terrifying. I saw the ABC movie the nite it was telecast, Threads a few years later at a small boutique theater. Threads was, IMO, much more realistic.
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 28 күн бұрын
You can find Threads online.
@geoffpool7476
@geoffpool7476 28 күн бұрын
Threads was, in some sense, more realistic because the post nuclear narrative doesn't go beyond 20 or so kilometers. Everything becomes local. Decent into chaos even more local.
@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 26 күн бұрын
I watched threads also. It was scary.
@robdempsey8866
@robdempsey8866 26 күн бұрын
@@geoffpool7476 agreed if you’re unlucky enough to survive the attack you’ll wish you didn’t
@princessdaaahlingamor5798
@princessdaaahlingamor5798 14 күн бұрын
Totally agree. I remember being terrified by Threads when I watched it as a teenager. So well done. Seems like less people watched because not many have mentioned it.
@steves8482
@steves8482 Ай бұрын
50% miss rate by interceptors? Maybe - it's a tough gig. However these interceptor missiles exist to guard against one or two launches from rogue states - generally seen as a more likely threat. No one in their right mind would think that 44 interceptors can deal with a massive Russian or Chinese attack - why is this even brought up as a serious issue?
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo Ай бұрын
Exactly. It was BS propaganda when Putin said he needed to develop hypersonic glide vehicles to counter US ABM tech. He knows our interceptor program is intended for NK and Iran.
@doctoruttley
@doctoruttley Ай бұрын
Awesome podcast. Just ordered her book. 👌🏻
@jmpattillo
@jmpattillo Ай бұрын
Her book ( and the inevitable movie) are important because of the conversations that will result. It’s important to realize how implausible her sequence of events is. NK launches a single ICBM at DC, and the US responds in minutes with scores of minuteman missiles that must overfly Russian airspace. This initiates a massive Russian strike, and a subsequent massive US response. It is implausible to the point of absurdity that our military hasn’t simulated many scenarios that avoid this escalation chain. What about our response coming from air-launched cruise missiles or SLBMs? There will certainly always be a US boomer submarine in the western Pacific. One could even imagine a scenario in which the US responds with a massive conventional attack
@patrickpirzer4080
@patrickpirzer4080 48 минут бұрын
The book "Fail safe" from 1963 is very interesting. In this story the cause is a computer error which sends a bomber squadron to Moscow.
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
@DocDanTheGuitarMan Ай бұрын
Have hypersonic missiles changed the timing?
@Jaywalker0617
@Jaywalker0617 Ай бұрын
No because icbm's go up then come down and only have to travel about 300 miles or so to hit their target
@theschmedaparadox1018
@theschmedaparadox1018 Ай бұрын
She sounds exactly like The Boss from MGS 3: Snake Eater which makes this so much more credible
@leopardgecko4226
@leopardgecko4226 16 күн бұрын
I thought the same thing. Been years since I've played that game lmao.
@John77787
@John77787 Ай бұрын
She needs to include y'all facts about what the positive are of nuclear weapons and treatments for exposure like ARS or ARP to truly understand and try and affect change. Listen to Ryan MacBeth.
@katlidstone3918
@katlidstone3918 Ай бұрын
Why do a handful of people get to decide our death? Today a few people brought us all closer to death. I do not give psychopaths' power over my life.
@michaelmcgowan7779
@michaelmcgowan7779 Ай бұрын
It's always been that way.
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete Ай бұрын
Because with 5 minutes warning {INF Europe days}....you don't have time to get/collate/organize the opinions of 300M people. 25 minutes for ICBMs? I SUPPOSE we could organize a FAST plebiscite at 2:02AM on any random Sunday.
@nilakshandissanayake1379
@nilakshandissanayake1379 Ай бұрын
But do you have any say in this. We are all in the same boat
@katlidstone3918
@katlidstone3918 29 күн бұрын
@@nilakshandissanayake1379 I do as long as I say I do. You do, too.
@longtallsally4493
@longtallsally4493 23 күн бұрын
We don’t have a choice Young people are sent to war against unknown young people by older men who know each other
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 Ай бұрын
What is the point of briefing the president if he is senile?
@mdavidmullins
@mdavidmullins Ай бұрын
Luckily senile Trump is now out of office and hopefully will stay that way, so your question is hypothetical.
@codysaunders7348
@codysaunders7348 Ай бұрын
​@@mdavidmullins the stupidity of your comment has been heard and understood by the world wide web. There is no doubt in anyone's mind, how senile Biden is, especially when compared to Trump. Yes, we get it. You have Trump derangement syndrome, but you seriously lie to yourself to this magnitude? I'm impressed. I'm not American and it seems like I know more about your presidents than you do. Kind of sad in that regard.
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 Ай бұрын
​@@mdavidmullinsKeep fooling yourself. It's a good way to embrace stupidity ideology.
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 Ай бұрын
​@libertyinperil520No borders ? That's the way you invite yourself into dangerous situations. Stop hiding behind YT and your living room. Take a vacation to Douglas AZ, the California border near TJ, or south Texas. You'll see an inordinate about of middle eastern and Chinese young men entering almost unfettered. Then read the ENTIRE "Rules for Radicals" and the tennents of Sharia Law. If you aren't concerned, you're ignoring the obvious.
@StudioLB
@StudioLB Ай бұрын
Well to be honest, it's why we voted DJT out
@Scott-hh3gh
@Scott-hh3gh 27 күн бұрын
She reminds me of the character, Professor Groeteschele from the film Fail Safe. BTW what are the odds that years ago, the Chicoms and Russians haven't slipped nukes into the country via lead lined shipping containers, and they're just parked around the country in major cities and near military bases? Port and customs officials can't be bought off to look the other way?
@bobmiller4383
@bobmiller4383 27 күн бұрын
Things to think about.......container based nukes, hypersonic nukes, dirty bomb nukes smuggled in from the " open border" Or satelite nukes already in orbit...just waiting. That would be truly destructive because of the EMP . I don't think that an ICBM will be the first use choice
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 27 күн бұрын
I would guess EMP would be the enemies first choice, no outright killing of millions. Implosion vs explosion. The country would implode in mere weeks, maybe just days. And I don't think that the country would respond in an escalatory manner, it might be near impossible to find out who delivered it. Just my opinion.
@williamgoh8640
@williamgoh8640 Ай бұрын
Hi, in your opinion what is the likelihood of a nuclear war? And which country is most likely to use nuclear, given the most recent developments in IRAN-ISRAEL?
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete Ай бұрын
Pakistan.100%.
@internednet
@internednet 16 күн бұрын
Never read such a stressing book!
@eldarrissman4172
@eldarrissman4172 13 күн бұрын
Wow excellent discussion. I wasn't aware that we don't have a separate doctrine for a rogue state nuclear missile attack. I would have thought the response would have been a massive air and sea attack with Conventional weapons. This assumes only one or two missiles were fired at the U.S. homeland. If the president does not have that discretion under laws passed to do such a thing...that is horrible. 80 ICBM missile as a response is nuts.
@TheYorkie2
@TheYorkie2 5 күн бұрын
I find her voice to American quite slow. However enjoyed her interview immensely 😊
@j.f.7509
@j.f.7509 20 күн бұрын
I guess she has to sell her book. I remember in the 80's this was a daily topic (unfortunately it' coming back). We've known since 1954 (Castle Bravo) about the effects. Happy sales AJ!
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 Ай бұрын
The closest we came to nuclear war was during the Cuban Missile Crisis when an insane US navy captain attacked a Soviet submarine by dropping depth charges on it. That was an act of war and the Soviet sub commander and political officer, between them, were authorized to launch a nuclear torpedo if attacked by the US navy. The commander wanted to launch the nuke at a US carrier and the political officer disagreed so the carrier didn't get nuked. Also, the Soviet commander in Cuba was cleared to use Frog tactical nuclear missiles to defend Cuba against a US invasion. If JFK had given the order to start WW III by invading Cuba, it would have gone nuclear in the first hour. That is worth considering with all the neocon lunatics advocating a NATO attack on Russia. The lesson of the Cuban Missile is that there may not even be a conventional phase to WW III. It could go nuclear immediately. The other close call was when the US was doing a nuclear exercise called Able Archer, in 1983, that the Soviets took for the real thing so they had their nuclear forces on high alert. Then the Russians had a glitch with their early warning system that gave them a false warning of a US ICBM launch. There was a Soviet officer with orders to launch on warning but he disobeyed orders and waited for conformation. He lost his job but he saved the world. The lesson of that close call is that it is dangerous to cause the other side to put their nuclear forces on high alert.
@barrillesmason919
@barrillesmason919 Ай бұрын
The US destroyer dropped charges designed to tell the sub it knew where it was and it should surface. They were not depth charges designed to sink the sub. Please check your facts.
@RobertBrusOfficial
@RobertBrusOfficial Ай бұрын
What's missing here is that AGEIS. SM6 and SM3 are a shield and there are lots of them. On top of that you're missing the energy based systems.
@davidtatum8682
@davidtatum8682 25 күн бұрын
This chick could lull me to sleep with tales of the apocalypse.
@deeratr
@deeratr Ай бұрын
Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth -luke 21
@danielkennedy2371
@danielkennedy2371 Ай бұрын
Love Annie's books in general and this one in particular. However, she has two major blind spots in her narrative. First is regarding missile defense. Yes, the Alaska and California sites have limited numbers of interceptors (mostly due to treaty obligations). But I find it odd that she doesn't even mention the Navy's newfound ability to hit ICBMs with the new SM-3 Block IIA. It seems she could at least mention this capability rather than presenting only the evidence against missile defense. Similar with the nuclear winter thing. Yes, there are plenty of studies that say it will be bad. There are also plenty of studies that say it will be quite mild. On both of these issues, she presents a consensus that just isn't there. Great book otherwise! Don't read it at night though
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete Ай бұрын
As an old nuclear guy way back when, she's trying to sell a book; good for her. But too many mistakes, too many oversights. It's why as a widebody Captain nearing retirement---I cannot read any news aviation articles any more. Utter bullshit spewed by people to impress people that know even less [if that's possible!].
@sinan2.71
@sinan2.71 Ай бұрын
"The only way to win is not to play" is a good quote from a movie, but apparently we have some rogue actors out there saying "if can't get what I want, then we all die." Trying to squirm out of MAD for "reasons". As if they are holding the globe hostage. In that case, we die free.
@DocDanTheGuitarMan
@DocDanTheGuitarMan Ай бұрын
Isn’t this timing problem part of Putins argument for not having NATO in Ukraine?
@ChowZeb
@ChowZeb Ай бұрын
Prepare for the end, so scary
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 Ай бұрын
You can't prepare. Just accept it could happen and enjoy every day before that if it does.
@jackietupper6520
@jackietupper6520 12 күн бұрын
What about all the sea creatures that have been proven useful for secret missions?
@SocioecologicalInterdependance
@SocioecologicalInterdependance Ай бұрын
China also has mobile launch platforms for missiles such as the hypersonic DF-41 even.
@thelastsaneman
@thelastsaneman 27 күн бұрын
Annie Jacobsen has that throaty, husky, relaxed voice that makes the most horrendous end of the World scenario seem so matter-of-fact and peaceful....🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎🇮🇱
@scottdixon6155
@scottdixon6155 9 күн бұрын
There were some strange ideas in her book. Such as the idea that firestorms would cook survivors in the White House bunker. Earth and concrete are very poor conductors, and if they survived the initial strike, a firestorm-if one occurred would be survivable.
@frankadam1800
@frankadam1800 Ай бұрын
Sarah Connor speaking - great interview.
@rogernam2092
@rogernam2092 Ай бұрын
When you think about what kind of people sitting in the position to push the button around the world,it’s outright scary..!
@jggerald7877
@jggerald7877 4 күн бұрын
Israel was serious with its Iron Dome tech. They knew the Cold War 1970s in the Philippines. So Filipinos had own experience on interceptor systems. In the 1980s, Israel asked for these techs from everyone, I guess with help from US. The US surely also patiently gathering knowledge on actual Cold War Star Wars and Star Trek techs. I wonder what the state of military tech or power the Philippines had that time in the 1980s.
@benbaker9990
@benbaker9990 5 күн бұрын
The stars don't change on human time scales. The Apollo space craft steered by the stars.
@jamesgoodrum8779
@jamesgoodrum8779 18 күн бұрын
What frightens me is that I might not be at ground zero. I want to be vaporized and I am scared that I won't be.
@johnanderson6039
@johnanderson6039 15 күн бұрын
Annie Jacobsen sounds like the Hollywood Rona Barrett of Thermonuclear War.
@edwindeas9457
@edwindeas9457 Ай бұрын
Tell Annie Thank You. What the "Ostrich-People" don't admit is that even today, after all the Strategic Arms Reductions of the 'Nuclear Club', Global Thermonuclear War would be a Near-Extinction Level Event (E.L.E.) for Terran-Humanity. Also, I had it explained to me in the late 1970s that The U.S. shifted from a Second-Strike (Launch after Initial Attack) to Launch on Warning due to Soviet ICBMs becoming more accurate (Sub-500yds C.E.P.) & the Soviet Plan for a Time-On-Target (T.O.T.) Attack Scenario (Preemptive or otherwise). If you wait for your Enemies' Inbound Attack to begin hitting Target to physically verify a Nuclear Attack & your Attacker achieves a T.O.T of 05min. Or Less, you won't be able to Respond. GOD Help us All. Now then: Opinions are like Assholes, and I guess I just showed mine. Also, I agree that Launch On Warning is a Grevious Mistake & a Dangerous, Misleading Policy. I pray for the Men & Women of the Armed Forces for the burden of executing a Nuclear Attack Response. GOD Bless, Love and Protect the Peoples of Earth. Good Night.
@harminderjitgill571
@harminderjitgill571 28 күн бұрын
How come Nuclear Winter didn't happen from all the Nuke tests?
@rachelannkrueger7638
@rachelannkrueger7638 27 күн бұрын
One of the tests isn't enough for the smoke and fallout to cover the earth to dim the sun to cause a nuclear winter the test is only every few months apart maybe year apart . It would take multiple times like in hundreds or thousands of nuclear missiles at one time to cause a nuclear winter.
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 27 күн бұрын
@@rachelannkrueger7638 There were thousands of these tests in the 50's and 60's.
@glenmorgan4597
@glenmorgan4597 22 күн бұрын
Because this book uses the concept of 100's / thousands being used in unison all over the world on the same day Hydrogen bombs which are many many times bigger than those dropped on Hiroshima / Nagasaki, not one being used in a barren area once every few years
@oscarrobert4725
@oscarrobert4725 21 күн бұрын
The bombs were set off over thr ocean, with no contact on land. Nuclear winter is created when LAND is blown up.into the sky, which then filters sunlight
@maccame6099
@maccame6099 18 күн бұрын
Pressing a button normally.
@christiansmith-of7dt
@christiansmith-of7dt Ай бұрын
That's what my grandpa taught me when I was a child
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085 6 күн бұрын
🤗Annie
@bobconaway
@bobconaway 10 күн бұрын
Humm....at 1:14 Annie is describing a star-siting missile guidance system for sub-launched ICBM/IRBMs. I'm calling BS on this one. I worked in a land-based ICBM system that - once-upon-a-time - had a star-siting guidance system, but it was replaced in the 70s with a fully inertial guidance system. I'm not a Navy guy but I feel strongly that their ICBM/IRBMs are *not* using 60+ year-old guidance technology. Just the technical aspects of using a star-siting system would be outrageously difficult for an ocean-launched missile.
@bobmilin
@bobmilin Ай бұрын
This is my type of party girl.
@drdoolittlefishhobbyist6055
@drdoolittlefishhobbyist6055 3 күн бұрын
It’s fascinating reading and a real eye opener but no book ever stopped a war from taking place. Unfortunately we are dealing with leaders who have no morals or any compassion towards their fellow man/ woman. Deterance does not work in reality.
@honeyb9118
@honeyb9118 26 күн бұрын
She should do an instructional nuke disaster painting, kind of like Bob Ross, but with a not too happy ending.
@timtrewyn453
@timtrewyn453 13 күн бұрын
I thought our limited but technically capable ABM systems, like THAAD, were built to deal with the rogue launch. The successes of the Patriot missile and Iron Dome indicate a refined American capability to solve the challenges of interception, although not with 100% assurance of success. Ballistic missile submarines do have to be concerned about the ASW capabilities of their opponent. The P-8 aircraft, US Navy and Coast Guard surface vessels, SOSUS type systems, and attack submarines are threats to ballistic missile submarines. If a ship with SM-6 missiles is within a close range, interception of the missile in boost phase is possible. More likely the launch coordinates can be established and missiles directed to that location. A ballistic missile submarine would have to make a choice about a curtailed salvo or fire missiles until it is destroyed. The closer the sub is to the adversary's shore, the more likely the sub is hit before it can launch all its missiles.
@robert-hh2ft
@robert-hh2ft Ай бұрын
wonder if annie has seen the bbc film war book?
@rachelannkrueger7638
@rachelannkrueger7638 27 күн бұрын
I saw a tour video on one these missile silos they showed the steps and old technology they take to lunch minute man missiles. They use large floppy disk not the 3 whatever inch or the 5 what ever inches. They use larger ones i don't remember how much bigger but bigger than the 5 inch ones got two persons at the old computer from the 60s or something they have two nobs they have to turn at unicen then the missiles will start do the sequence to launch. That was interesting how its done then and still today it called a fail safe i believe why they still use that old technology.
@martinMD
@martinMD Ай бұрын
This lady is a breath of fresh air. With honesty. The clock is ticking with Putin and the support he's having from the republican party in the USA
@trooperjinthewoods4538
@trooperjinthewoods4538 Ай бұрын
It's not Putin that will launch on us. We will launch on them. It will be made to look like they launched on us. Or that is the plan anyways. Launch on warning is the mistake that will kill many of us. Nuclear winter is a myth. All that soot will be like cloud seeding and tons of precipitation will occur . They have already trained the population for nuclear war- stay at home ( lockdowns) - mask up ( don't breath in the pollution, fall out ,ash ) -stockpile supplies ( toilet paper )😅 -the wildfires of last year and this coming season was a test of the environment; to see how nuclear winter would behave ( so far so good ) we can handle it I think. The elite's know about this, that's why they are building bunkers right. Stockpile -enough food for at least 3 weeks absolute bare minimum. -have some quality dust masks and gloves on hand. -a water filter, pre-filters and a way to boil it. - soap , water -coveralls - garden tools, a good quality shovel to bury the dead - get some seeds of all types that will grow in your area and maybe some that will grow in slightly cooler weather and reduced grow time areas because climate will be wonky for a little bit. -tarps will be a good idea , many tarpaulins - duct tape It will be easy to over come and start over. Just stop and think about it realistically and stop listening to all the end of the world lazy people that don't want to put the effort into survival.
@elitetrader5468
@elitetrader5468 Ай бұрын
What support is that?
@kennaljo
@kennaljo Ай бұрын
A.J. is smiling on the link as she presents nuclear destruction.
@SovetUnion63
@SovetUnion63 29 күн бұрын
It was Madame de Pompadour, lover of Louis XV of France, said "After me the flood" in French of cause.
@billmcqueen4263
@billmcqueen4263 Ай бұрын
Wow what a voice Imagine if she hosted a late night radio show playing chill out blues or country ?
@silvercommander
@silvercommander 17 күн бұрын
She can see into the future with those thick glasses
@sarahholverson9724
@sarahholverson9724 18 күн бұрын
It would be 33 minutes that number!
@jimshorts6751
@jimshorts6751 Ай бұрын
"Realistically inform" through terror. The last 3 times we've been at high DEFCON's, we prevailed through cool minds and extreme luck. The world could've ended in the early 80's, over a computer mistake. Now youre embracing AI.
@charles2675
@charles2675 Ай бұрын
HAPPENS. When we talk all the time of what leaders want
@irvinggoldberg5365
@irvinggoldberg5365 Ай бұрын
⭐Stock up on precious metals (brass, copper, lead) while you can, from Winchester, Remington, etc.⭐
@Jaywalker0617
@Jaywalker0617 Ай бұрын
If the world ends water food ammo fuel will be only thing worth bartering
@stephenfawcett3805
@stephenfawcett3805 Ай бұрын
Not if when
@user-bc9wd9pg6z
@user-bc9wd9pg6z 8 күн бұрын
Russia has weapons that cannot be detected by radar, also they have under water weapons that cannot be detected so the briefing is irrelevant
@thelastsaneman
@thelastsaneman 27 күн бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but the concept of nuclear war(and, personally, I'm of the opinion that some kind of global conflict is inevitable at this point) doesn't concern me as much as it should. Human beings, so I understand from the latest findings, have existed, in some form, for more than a million years. The number of people who have lived and died in all that time is virtually incalculable. We, who are alive today, have the unique opportunity to see, first hand, the potential end of the species, should any of the brushfires burning around the World get out of control. Is it just me, or does knowing that we may be witnesses to the twilight of humanity, somehow fill anyone else with excitement? Personally, I feel blessed to be here, at the beginning of the end...🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿😎🇮🇱
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085
@doughyanddeanssecondcousin5085 6 күн бұрын
I’m SOOO in love with ANNIE ❤️ she’s SUCH a a HOTTIE ❤️
@craigjackson8626
@craigjackson8626 Ай бұрын
I listened to this book on audible. I thought she had AI read her book....nope just strange AI voice. Great Book...was hard to listen to her voice for hours.
@michaelclaasen1431
@michaelclaasen1431 11 күн бұрын
What is the chance we cat nucleaire war
@bryandepaepe5984
@bryandepaepe5984 29 күн бұрын
The satellites detect infrared emissions, heat, and the amount of energy being emitted, ICBMs will emit distinct heat signatures from size of missile nozzle. The trajectory needs to be calculated but the missile needs to start to pitch over from vertical to begin the calculations with direction being determined quickly but distance will need to wait until near booster shutdown. Any detection false or not will take a minute of observation to assess before determining the threat of that detection. A single launch would not look like a first strike, it would take many simultaneous launches with ICBM heat signatures to start the defense process immediately while working on trajectory calculations to confirm an attack on US. The sub launch ballistic missile is hindered by the increased noise a larger nuclear powered sub makes and the very robust sonar net the US coasts have plus attack subs patrolling makes approaching the coast is difficult but not impossible. In times of increased tensions extra patrols will be assigned and the sonar net will be very attentive in real time, complacency is a main factor in letting foreign subs approach undetected until sonar records are reviewed catching the sub after the fact.
@rogersmith8480
@rogersmith8480 12 күн бұрын
👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍💯👍!!!!
@sideshowbilly3755
@sideshowbilly3755 Ай бұрын
And a Chinese spy balloon traveled across the entirity of the US mainland. 😅
@podcastfan2544
@podcastfan2544 Ай бұрын
The dude who directed BR 2049 bought the rights to make a film about this book
@Watchman-At-The-Gate
@Watchman-At-The-Gate 13 күн бұрын
👍
@AndrashSpooshkash
@AndrashSpooshkash Ай бұрын
Last night I dreamed of an angel wearing the same black glasses.
@workingman223
@workingman223 Ай бұрын
Look up.
@PhillipPaulPeter
@PhillipPaulPeter Ай бұрын
Why do KZfaq want people to see this over your other videos? Strange they have pushed this at me multiple times and I’ve never viewed your channel before
@6Diego1Diego9
@6Diego1Diego9 Ай бұрын
She's got a hot voice ❤
@robert-hh2ft
@robert-hh2ft Ай бұрын
you cant intercept a mach 27 projectile
@modestoconcrete
@modestoconcrete Ай бұрын
Sprint had no problem, and did it in the 60s.
@daveeyes
@daveeyes 28 күн бұрын
There's a fine book about the US Interceptor squadron up in Alaska.
@sweetkittiez
@sweetkittiez 26 күн бұрын
I hope I'm wrong but I think that nuclear war is inevitable at this point
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