ANT MAN 3 REVIEW: Does Quantumania Actually Suck?

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Our Ant Man 3 review is here! Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania has a horrendous Rotten Tomatoes score, but MCU fans love it. So has the Marvel Cinematic Universe lost its luster? Or do we just need more Avengers films? Colton Ogburn and Matt Singer explain their reviews.
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First of all, disclaimer, I kind of hate rotten tomatoes, and how it’s now used as a marketing tool. It used to just be an easy way to access several reviews of a movie, and now for some reason, this aggregate score is being used to measure if a movie is good or bad. And the audience score tells me even less about a movie’s quality, because they can easily be reviewed-bombed by angry nerds. But I do think it's interesting that the audience score is so high for this movie. It makes me wonder, have critics turned on the MCU?
I mean, it is easy to resent the Marvel entertainment juggernaut. They take up so many screens in theaters that indie movies no longer have a shot, and they seem to be pervasive in every part of our culture. But that’s because…for the most part…everything Marvel makes is really good-like Quantumania.
And I will admit that it is in my interest to love Marvel movies, and for all of you to love Marvel movies, because then I get to explain them. But when something is disappointing-like Love and Thunder, I let you know. But this was by far my favorite Ant-Man movie, and it’s streets ahead of Ant-Man and the Wasp.
The first Ant-Man was a good movie, and a fun departure from the format of most MCU films. However, its rep was damaged right out the gate because Marvel originally hired the brilliant Edgar Wright to create the film, and then they parted ways. So we were always going to judge that film based on what it could have been.
But I love everyman hero characters, the normal guys who aren;t geniuses or super soldiers, and scott lang is that guy [clip].
And the second movie was also fun, mostly because of the people who weren;t even superheroes [clip, card go?]. But the whole story about the hot potato lb, and Ghost-really grated on me on rewatches. Both Ghost and the Pyms want to rescue Janet from the quantum realm, and yet-they’re fighting? Is Bill Foster actually a good guy? Janet has quantum powers until she doesn’t? It’s just not the MCU’s strongest movie. It’s fun, but it never felt like it had an arc, or a theme-it was just the movie we had to watch before Endgame [scott in QR]
But Quantumania was the perfect ending to a trilogy. It took elements and ideas from the films and tied them all together in something fun and new. This film did for ant-man what Ragnarok did for Thor.
I covered a lot of these in our easter egg video, but this movie passes off a lot of elements that were introduced in ant-man. Like Hank saying [earn a look in daughter’s eye]. IN this movie, Casie is an activist who is disappointed that Scott is not using his great power for great responsibility. And at the end of the movie, he stands and fights kang. This isn;t really something we’ve seen scott do before-he makes the heroic choice when he doesn't have too.
Or, the fact that controlling ants is a dumb, silly power-but Hank turns this into an epic ability that makes him god king of an extremely advanced civilization.
I also saw a few people online complaining that this movie was too much like Rick and Morty. A valid criticism, since former Rick and Morty writer Jeff Loveness wrote the screenplay. And the two do share certain elements-like the councils or rick and kang, a microverse, and weird alien cultures. But these are not concepts that were original to rick and morty, Marvel has had the microverse for decades, and the Council of Kangs first appeared in avengers 267, in 1986. That’s before a lot of you were even born. Like you.
Doug: Who are you talking to?
I mean, no one in particular, but wouldn;t it be cool if like one person got real freaked out when I did that?
Doug: Yeah, like Blake. I’m talking to you Blake.

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@ScreenCrush Жыл бұрын

What did you think of Quantumania?

@garyfrombrooklyn Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it tremendously

@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын

It looks pretty meh and very mediocre

@happiestdart6873 Жыл бұрын

personally I really enjoyed the plot, and the jokes didn’t seem all that forced.

@soxnpats1 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it

@allixbbyx Жыл бұрын

I liked it quite a lot, and it’s grown on me the more I’ve sat on it.

@DocDaMindbenda Жыл бұрын

This whole movie was Janet's fault for not telling them about Kang, but she was REALLY trying to keep Bill Murray a secret from Hank lol

@manxdarcqpaw744 Жыл бұрын

And she still took them all there to see Bill. Still, She should have told them about Kang.

@transplant003 Жыл бұрын

hahahahahaaa

@joseseda8640 Жыл бұрын

ProsT belongs to the streets

@Jackknivesreviews Жыл бұрын

Don't forget Casey she is at fault as well.

@transplant003 Жыл бұрын

@@proxjayant this is a unfathomably statement that makes no sense. You don't even know what you're asking because you're questions don't make sense lol . Movie Kangs in multiverse. one more badass then them all. he was exiled by his variants. he wants to kill them and rul multiverse. he who remains is dead loki killed him. lol it cant be any simpler then that. where's the kang we defeated at the end movie. no one knows you have to wait till next movie.

@a.castillo2190 Жыл бұрын

When he was going through the "did we actually beat kang" in the restaurant I was waiting for kang to be one of the waiters or other patrons or something

@jayw3512 Жыл бұрын

Agree. I didn’t like that. That was a big miss. I do think though, something happened to Scott’s timeline and we (they) didn’t show us.

@i_Gotcha_ Жыл бұрын

@@jayw3512 from the videos from new age rockstars too. When Scott is walking down the street and sees the couples twice. And everyone dressed in green and purple. The ant man mural art on the wall with with a heart around it signifying he’s “dead”. Looks to seem Kang affected Scott at the end for sure.

@sweepyourspeech8350 Жыл бұрын

Kang is inevitable!!!

@venom-123 7 ай бұрын

@jayw3512 yeah but then so.ething big must happen cause if kang is in new York or somewhere in America then kang would do something but us not nowing cause for now he's not going to appear in any films

@annaleena1975 Жыл бұрын

If you’re introducing a line where the hero says “I don’t have to win, we both just have to lose” then he needs to also actually lose. He didn’t have to die himself but he should’ve lost something. Since Hope clearly went for the sacrifice play when she jumped back to save Scott she would’ve fit the bill nicely. If she died then Janet would also have had to face real consequences for what she did.

@jasonelder2296 Жыл бұрын

Real consequences for Cassie as well.

@LuckyErmine7640 Жыл бұрын

yeah I was hoping the wouldn't be able to get back.

@nathaniellambiaso Жыл бұрын

If he lost and was stuck in the quantum realm, scot would lose so much more time with his daughter. This is why I liked the ending. The poor guy finally gets to see his family.

@paulapaulapaul9644 Жыл бұрын

He lost. He's just in denial, like a lot of people.

@odionrita7880 Жыл бұрын

Yes! Yes! Yes! If at least one member of the Ant-Family died (particularly Scott or Hope), it would be dramatically unsettling and it would really give this movie STAKES, which it lacks tremendously.

@Fro1nandify Жыл бұрын

He was telekinetic at first because he has his armor. After the ants destroyed his suit, those powers where not available anymore. That's why he seems to be depowered when fighting Scott and relied purely on brute force.

@RyanHaney55 Жыл бұрын

At first I thought it was weird that Scott was walking around like a champ, having beaten Kang. Then he started realizing he might have messed up, I realized Scott hadn't won. Kang is probably shrunken down and regrouping with a bunch of probability versions of himself and working his way up an ant hill of Kangs.

@paulpivaral4832 Жыл бұрын

this is the best theory , maybe that was Kangs plan. He did say he's seen everything so maybe he need antman to beat him and get sucked in to that power cell at the end.

@runnerup5676 Жыл бұрын

I see what u did, "ant hill" 😏

@juanbaez5036 Жыл бұрын

Thing is too kang shrunk down into his own multiverse machine so in theory he may not even need his chair anymore he may be fused with the orb and be able to travel the multiverse at will....but idk

@fictionverse7292 Жыл бұрын

Then maybe Scott didn’t win. He actually did lose too after all. (If Kang is really dead, which he isn’t)

@jordteps1775 Жыл бұрын

This is a terrible theory.. this Kang was clearly the Kang that was meant to create the TVA. Scott killed the only good Kang

@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын

I was annoyed Luis wasn't in it. He was the best part about ant man ,and the wasp. Also missed kurt ,and Dave. The trio was great.

@davidjackson4326 Жыл бұрын

I hope T.I.'s character isn't......dead and gone

@Krisz01777 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I heard Luis' actor is in jail tho

@patrickhurley481 Жыл бұрын

Michael Pena was definitely missed, I was hoping he would get a suit even if it had no powers!

@iamafish7 Жыл бұрын

The Russian guy was still in it. He was a sentient blob.

@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын

@@davidjackson4326 I understood that reference

@DariusSayers Жыл бұрын

Ryan: "The Wasp did nothing in the movie..." Me: "AYFKM?? She did the one thing Scott needed, she believed in him." Scott's universal truth was that he, across all of his variants loved Cassie. Hope's universal truth was that she supported Scott. It was Scott's love for Cassie that made his variants work together, it was Hope's love for Scott that made her variants work together.

@sw2cool Жыл бұрын

I don't think this movie was supposed to stand alone or answer any questions. I think the purpose of it was to introduce Kang and set up what's to come. This may end up being one of the most important movies of this phase.

@rarox0510 Жыл бұрын

I think what they could have done to make him more powerful is having them escape instead of defeating him.

@Lance37a Жыл бұрын

They did do reshoots, I wonder what the original ending was.

@kevinphiggins Жыл бұрын

@@Lance37a I hear originally he wasn’t going to “die” at the end so presumably he would have been able to escape

@juanbaez5036 Жыл бұрын

He is not dead. Is shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine if anything a theory is now he is fused with the machine and can travel the multiverse without his chair.

@arandomdog8959 Жыл бұрын

Well he wasn’t supposed to be a super powerful kang, he is a kang who wasn’t at full power

@beatsbybayleigh9525 Жыл бұрын

True, it was just an introduction to the Kang character and his capabilities. There's still alot in store and this was just the beginning. Scott knows he gonna need help, the similar to Bruce comint to stark and the avengers in Infinity war.

@wikisaiyangmail Жыл бұрын

The eerie ending just had me waiting for like every waiter in the restaurant or every person Scott walked by to transform into a Kang variant (sorta like a Skrull transformation lol)

@zulfikarsangaji Жыл бұрын

You are not alone I expecting kang casually passing by scott on the road lol

@omargomez6325 Жыл бұрын

I was waiting for the same

@sweepyourspeech8350 Жыл бұрын

For some reason I thought he was gonna get a 3rd eye too.... Like why.... And not another one lol....

@jayw3512 Жыл бұрын

There’s no doubt Kang should’ve shown up and the movie cuts. Think about if that happened and his Variants think he died, but he didn’t. I think Marvel missed on that aspect.

@damienhine1861 Жыл бұрын

I honestly expected a significant part of this movie to be Kang tempting Scott into helping him by promising to rewrite time so he could spend more time with Cassie growing up. I was surprised to see this barely feature.

@devilmaycarebutGODdonot Жыл бұрын

You are not only one the trailer literally showed it

@doggoswift6896 9 ай бұрын

That would have required more thinking and better writing, lmao

@damienhine1861 9 ай бұрын

@@devilmaycarebutGODdonot you know a movie isn't good when the trailers tell a different story to get you interested

@kaleanaheslaughter1140 Жыл бұрын

I’d say the best line was his rebuttal to janes line “ you’ll be killing trillions!” And he hit her with the coldest line in the MCU “ I wished that mattered to me “ 🥶🥶

@rokeishiarodgers7205 Жыл бұрын

Yes!!! Haha

@a.castillo2190 Жыл бұрын

I don't even think he said "to me" Pretty sure the line was just "I wish that mattered" like it doesn't matter at all, to anyone. In the grand scale of time at least.

@bgikuya Жыл бұрын

@@a.castillo2190 Yeah! Including that small phrase would change the context completely

@spsxssd86 Жыл бұрын

I thought he was going to hit back with something like. "Trillions? Your view is so small you can't even begin to comprehend the number of beings that would disappear" I feel this would have linked to Thanos's line about being burdened by knowledge.

@AndrewKarmona Жыл бұрын

He didn’t say “ to me” He says “I wish that mattered”

@nicholasrivera1568 Жыл бұрын

I think the reason why we feel that the magic is disappearing is because phase 4 was not capped off. Before, in the Infinity Saga, each phase was ended with an Avengers movie that tied up the storylines within that phase. Sine phase 4 didn't have an Avengers type movie to tie things up the stories run into each other

@buckman234 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if Multiverse of Madness would've been the capstone movie of phase 4 if certain things didnt happen.

@ion8531 Жыл бұрын

Phase 2 ended with antman

@frankyDavalos Жыл бұрын

@@ion8531 phase 3 ended with Spider-man far from home. I don’t understand your point.

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

I think there's a feeling of diminishing returns right now. There have been, what, 31 movies now, not to mention all of the TV shows. So I think the over-saturation of MCU is causing a lot of apathy and "MCU fatigue" right now.

@freewaytwoey Жыл бұрын

@@frankyDavalos because you are slow if phase 3 ended with Far from home? And Phase 4 started with Black Widow. When did they fight Thanos? Goof his point is They all ended with a big Averagers movie. 3 Avenger movies with 1 being a 2 part movie 3 phases goofball

@iloveentertainment Жыл бұрын

I do wonder if Kang won the psychological war though? Scott ended the movie questioning whether he did defeat him or not. Kang was still on his mind in a less definitive way like with Thanos. Kang is a different kind of villain; he is incredibly smart and manipulative vs purely physical.

@fictionverse7292 Жыл бұрын

So in a way, they both lost after all. Or Kang didn’t even lose yet?! He’s probably not even dead, he looked like he was shrinking like Darren. Only round one, round two or more he definitely will win!

@nguyenquoctoan6354 Жыл бұрын

@@fictionverse7292 I will be no surprised if the Council of Kang turns out to be fodder while this Kang return from Probability Storm as Beyonder or Prime Kang aka the strongest Kang of MCU.

@claudewinters2091 Жыл бұрын

Not a great look when the greatest threat has already died once & then seemingly lost to Ant-Man.... When will the fear factor begin? Right now it's not there ...

@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын

@@claudewinters2091 i get it, if he would have won it would seem like a much bigger threat, but what i think they want to show is that he is a very different kind of a villain than thanos. He can be beaten without his suit and gadgets but he is more of a psychological threat who simply won't die even after you are able to kill him somehow. If that is not threatening than what is? And we saw that at the ending of this movie in scott's mind.

@iloveentertainment Жыл бұрын

@@apoorvsingh4459 agree! This kind of villain is scarier-the one you don’t think is a threat, the one who manipulates and uses smarts along with the physical. Kang is more than Thanos in this regard.

@chasgiv4 Жыл бұрын

Dude, you are absolutely right about Jonathan Majors. In Loki, I thought he was silly. Then saw Quantamania and how well he became another character and his sadness. It was very clear that I needed to watch the last episode of Loki again and boy. He really gives that character life. I can see all the emotions that I would feel if I had to make decisions. I feel like the critics only consider the movie but don't put the puzzle pieces together of the whole MCU. Nearly everything in the MCU is connected and correlates to another movie. The connections are extremely important.

@altdoom5205 Жыл бұрын

well said! Jonathan Majors is amazing

@rkms5606 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate this post 👏🏿👏🏿

@TheOneAboveAll_ Жыл бұрын

The way he asked him if he had killed him before and the Avengers as if it was nothing, to turn around and lose to AntMan and Wasp was telling and a head scratch moment

@essasolex Жыл бұрын

slamming and holding Ant-Man right next to the engine after years of resenting Janet for ruining it was insane writing to me

@silviozhang3116 Жыл бұрын

Well Kang was lynched by a million man-sized highly technlogical ants beforehand, altough they really shoud have used a scene to say that they got an ugrade to make their second fight more believable, that much is true. Also one should never underestimate sheer number.

@akashvig5007 Жыл бұрын

Here in India where I watched, we didn't have the iconic line, "Are you an avenger? Have I killed you before?" . Instead we had Kang saying, "I have killed many avengers". Was this a universal thing?

@bobjenkins6787 Жыл бұрын

@@akashvig5007 no he said that to

@devilmaycarebutGODdonot Жыл бұрын

Dude not to antman, but only to most mundane of antman gadget THE BLASTER of HOPE..

@Soriichi Жыл бұрын

I was just so surprised in a bad way that Kang lost to Scott and his team. I really thought the movie would have a more darker tone. The trailer and even the movie had that feeling that someone important was going die and when noone did I was upset. I also thought that Scott and Hope being immediately rescued right after being stuck in the QR was really dumb too. I did like the movie though but it could of been waaaaay better.

@zshakur Жыл бұрын

To be fair, he'd just been jumped by a hundred over powered high tech ants who destroyed his suit. Even without his "powers", he was a far better combatant than Ant Man. Technically Ant Man didn't win, Janet popped back through the portal and started blasting an already severely injured Kang. They got lucky!!!

@shikamarunara5445 Жыл бұрын

@@zshakur Pretty sure that was Hope not Janet...

@indymaximus1566 Жыл бұрын

@Shikamaru Nara What’s the difference? Like seriously, who gives a flying fk who these side characters are? Kang should’ve killed them

@djmaytag303 Жыл бұрын

It’s not as easy as saying “Scott won.” He might have won the battle, but lost the war if that Kang was the one that could have actually stopped the Kangs we saw at the end of the movie. This seems to be consistent with the idea of free will and destiny that Loki & Sylvie struggled with. It might seem like a win, like Sylvie had against He Who Remains, but with devastating consequences.

@daynejoseph2366 Жыл бұрын

In an interview Paul Rudd said that the last fight was a lot more violent than what made the final cut. I’d be interested to see the full version.

@CStewWV Жыл бұрын

When Matt comes in that was the most indecisive word salad ever. You can tell from the way he is dancing around he didn’t like it but doesn’t want to come across too aggressive after Ryan obviously likes it.

@swisserty Жыл бұрын

Make him wag. Watch him toss his own salad now, he can’t remain. Listen Matt fence sitter dungo, I’ll remove you.

@talesofthedice6951 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, just say it!

@benfrazier2871 Жыл бұрын

Did you just leave a critical review of a critical review

@billwhite1544 Жыл бұрын

I think that not knowing who Kang exactly is and seeing the variants will intrigue some viewers enough to want to learn more. Not everyone needs to be spoon fed everything all at once.

@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын

17:47 dude I genuinely got freaked out at the end when Scott is thinking if he doomed them all. I have bad anxiety as it is and it’s heightened in movie theatres but the drowning out of the music and Scott’s expression and voice over. I almost had lsd/acid flash backs and just felt impending doom looming over when that scene started happening 😂

@sweepyourspeech8350 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I thought he was about to get a 3rd eye for some reason...lol

@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын

@@sweepyourspeech8350 haha I left the theatre as soon as the movie was over I looked up the end credit scenes in the car I was genuinely on edge anxiety is a bitch 😅

@sweepyourspeech8350 Жыл бұрын

Like Doctor Strange!!!

@mattbellgottaring2it961 Жыл бұрын

My favorite part was the council of kangs. I think Jonathan major showed major range with that scene alone.

@lucaspsm125 Жыл бұрын

he was the highlight of the whole movie for sure

@chadwarrior9298 Жыл бұрын

We saw a live action Council of Kangs. I keep repeating that to myself a dozen times a day I'm so amazed. And yeah, Majors is a capital A actor, so this should be fantastic to see.

@artificiallyflavord5588 Жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@joasbenjamin6804 Жыл бұрын

Cause that was the only good thing in the movie

@shevisloane6535 Жыл бұрын

That scene was laughably awful

@sportsnet1997 Жыл бұрын

When Scott went to the coffee shop at the end of the movie and then had to finally pay for his coffee (and was surprised by it), did anybody else think they went back to the wrong timeline?

@shaunbanks8237 Жыл бұрын

That's what I thought or is it a later time in the real world since they were in the quantamn realm for so long (time passes different there than in the real world)

@marisolamaya159 Жыл бұрын

I thought so too… I wasn’t sure if it was because of that but at the end he spat out food something (maybe it had something to do with it?)…

@Krisz01777 Жыл бұрын

@@marisolamaya159 it was just a joke that the former boss made the cake and it was bad

@masteryogurt3788 Жыл бұрын

The joke was they finally figured out that he wasn’t Spider-Man

@harshamanne3316 Жыл бұрын

No it's because they found out that he isn't Spiderman so they don't care about him the same way anymore

@JasonYergin Жыл бұрын

Well after that deep dive I don't know if there's much I can add but... when it comes up in conversation I tell people to remember that Ant Man has always been one the most grounded and small hero's in the MCU. Now the theme is don't underestimate the little guy since his actions saved so many worlds from Thanos and these are still really fun characters to explore. We're also heading into a new big bad so the movies have to start small and get bigger as we move forward.

@fredmills4191 Жыл бұрын

He is Human too. I think they did a GREAT JOB at that. Because it was a point when Janet said “it’s over” and Kang turns around with TEARS running down his face and said “you know better then anyone.. it’s never over”. We forget that he is human, and is forced to take lives, to possibly save his reality. I loved it. I felt how you did at first… but I am looking at it like it makes more sense once I really saw what they wanted to make. Even when she asked who is Kang?? He said “who I have to be.” I really think we will look back on this movie as a huge arc. They also showed us the ending in Loki. So it’s like a Tarantino movie… you can just show the story in any order.

@proxjayant Жыл бұрын

can anyone tell me that the kang whose got exiled who exiled him kang councils or he who remains and if kang councils did that then the fook he who remains did? he said he killed all his version and only one left so he should be the one who exiled him bcoz that kang come in quantum when janet was trapped and that time timeline or multiverse wasn't broken bcoz he who remains have control and killed his all version then how the fook kang councils become? is after he who remains died or before that so it means he who remains was working with them? all along to open multiverse so confuaing and making no sense.

@mufaromawere4819 Жыл бұрын

Spoiler alert?

@lukecharlton Жыл бұрын

Nothing about this was anything like a tarantino movie! Was barely an ant man movie.

@SkilletTRO Жыл бұрын

@@lukecharlton It wasn't Tarantino but this was arguably the most Ant-Man installment to date.

@Fingernamedkid7 Жыл бұрын

I hate people like you dude, why are you watching a video about a movie you haven’t seen if you don’t want spoilers? Make it make sense

@alexdavis1221 Жыл бұрын

What I got from this movie is that Kang is the good guy and’s he’s trying to protect his timeline from the council of Kangs. I think he becomes he who remains as well. Making his timeline the secret timeline

@dooddoodd Жыл бұрын

he's ded. try harder

@javier.alvarez764 Жыл бұрын

hes not dead he got transported to another dimension

@dooddoodd Жыл бұрын

@@javier.alvarez764 okay mr.Kevin Feige

@Eahc_21 Жыл бұрын

ThanosWasRight KangWasRight

@AGREEaddh Жыл бұрын

I don't think Kang will become he who remains.. But I strongly believe loki thinks he who remains is good and try to find him in loki2 ,like who would become he who remains and help him

@BloodRaven47 Жыл бұрын

Kinda interesting that Scott arguably set forth the series of events that reversed the snap, ending the Infinity Saga, and he also kinda got the ball rolling on the Kang Dynasty. Although Sylvie and Loki maybe deserve that distinction more.

@aprillou9119 Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's because I watch every ScreenCrush MCU video, but the magic is not dying for me. I'm even more excited and more involved in the story that's unfolding. I really enjoyed this movie 🤷‍♀️

@akashvig5007 Жыл бұрын

I agree... I watched it on IMAX 3D and loved it so much. The visuals were stunning.

@lewispooper3138 Жыл бұрын

It’s dead asf Movie just lost millions of dollars at the box office

@vinnybombara492 Жыл бұрын

I feel like the only way it was possible to "beat" kang, was kangs pride, he wanted to take someone with him to witness him win, Janet at first, then Cassie maybe, but then he says to Scott during the end fight scene, and I'm poorly paraphrasing, but he said, "I want you to always remember, you could have left." Instead of just killing them, he gave them too many chances to keep trying to stop him.

@apacolypz11 Жыл бұрын

Funny you touch on that I forgot to in my rant. In the comics Kangs biggest virtue is his Pride. He is incredibly arrogant but extremely prideful. When the movie played into that it was great. The whole background on Janet and his relationship was amazing. I wish they heavily leaned into that. Everyone has a weakness and pride can be a delicious exploit if exposed correctly. This has been seen many times in the comics. Janet meant a lot to him because she believed in him when his own "variants" casted him out. It seemed as though Kang admired the intelligence of Janet or maybe a deeper connection. Deep down I think he wanted someone adding on to your point to witness his ascension or belief there of.

@diceloc441 Жыл бұрын

@@apacolypz11 right. I think that is why he waited patiently to see her reaction after reading his mind threw the ship

@apacolypz11 Жыл бұрын

@@diceloc441 exactly he really wanted to know what she thought of him but also see his worth. See his purpose. He needed that Bill of approval.

@JustAdudeBoy Жыл бұрын

Spoilers! I'm glad people like it! For me, I feel like it was too convenient that ONLY the ants went through a time dilation field and it was like "type 2" or something civilization and they were able to beat Kang. Also, I feel like nobody got captured in this movie, I felt like I could slap Kang's robot henchman and get away like the characters did frequently. Also Kang sat around the whole movie and had only one action sequence. I feel like he was a missed opportunity.

@girlgamer6678 Жыл бұрын

yes

@chozengaming8547 Жыл бұрын

The ants didn't beat Kang. All they did was tear his suit up. MODOK disabled his force field which is reasonable since he was made from the same type of tech. The ants just carried him away. Henchmen have always been weak.

@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын

@@chozengaming8547 still kang coulda killed literally everyone the second he got his drive. He let Janet live multiple times she literally ruined his plans multiple times I don’t know why he kept taking her with him 😂

@chozengaming8547 Жыл бұрын

@@Collect2Disconnect huh? What did you watch? She literally enlarged the core for his chair as soon as it was fixed and fucked off out of there. They were instantly in opposition.

@burna2650 Жыл бұрын

You mean like Thanos sat around for almost 20 movies and ten years real time?

@MrChupacabra555 Жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the 'de-powering' of Kang, but yes, they do seem to explain it with his 'gauntlets' being damaged before their last fight. On Kang's 'Defeat': Is merging a person with a power source that connects to the multiverse really a good idea? Could kill him, could end up making him as/more powerful than Scarlet Witch.

@dumbguy1007 Жыл бұрын

It should have been an intentional expedition or heist into the quantum realm into kang's micro empire, so that Janet could finally stop him after all these years. Scott's daughter sneaks on board using her suit and it goes wrong from there. Having the ant team come in prepared but still being unable to stop Kang would have been a bit more effective than them stumbling into it and still managing to get out. Also someone should have chosen to stay behind or been trapped at the end.

@juanbaez5036 Жыл бұрын

Kang was not defeated for everyone saying that. He was shrunk down with the multiverse traveling machine and honestly I feel he may be fused with it now and can travel the multiverse at will.

@Regina.Falange Жыл бұрын

I keep thinking people need to be shown stuff, because to me it's clear he isn't dead

@diegobracho4963 Жыл бұрын

It doesn’t matter if he isn’t dead, it’s a god awful first impression. We’re supposed to feel this villain is worse than thanos but he gets his ass kicked by ANT MAN (the comic relief in the avengers movies). Compare that to Thanos literally erasing half the universe and beating the soul out of every hero we came to know and love. Doesn’t even come close

@lilc8315 Жыл бұрын

Because ppl don't really know marvel like they say they do lmao

@juanbaez5036 Жыл бұрын

@@diegobracho4963 lmao your comparing a weakend kang to a infinity gauntlet wielding thanos? Who's entire movie was about him executing his plan not just an introduction movie so obviously Thanos is going to be a monster. Kang during the flash back when Jannet touched his chair was absolutely murking entire REALITIES without some huge army and with out a single infinity stone. Thanos snapped half a universe that's amazing and all but kang was destroying multiple universes literally destroying them not just snapping half of existence. without any stones kang was opening portals through space and time with out the (space stone) also controlling Scott and Casey body with just a suit and again he wasn't even at full power. Not saying the movie was some cinema breakthrough but people just be trying to hate now a days.

@cameronjones7747 Жыл бұрын

@@juanbaez5036 Even without using the gauntlet, Thanos beat the crap out of Thor and Hulk at the beginning of the movie, then in Endgame, he takes on three Avengers at once with just his sword. And the little flashes we see of Kang from his sphere thingie don’t really show us anything that we compare to Thanos. It showed Kang killing random people

@joshuahenderson3444 Жыл бұрын

One thing i really really did enjoy about the movie is seeing Kang go Darth Vader on everybody using the force to threaten Scott and Cassie if they didn’t do what he wanted

@ShaneHampsheirTV Жыл бұрын

There were a lot of Star Wars moments weren’t there!

@snowy8362 Жыл бұрын

@@ShaneHampsheirTV Some of the alien-like creatures also gave me Star Wars vibes!

@lostpear Жыл бұрын

I do feel the Kang that was "defeated" in the end is one of thousands. I was expecting other Kangs to show up right after he was zapped away, to help demonstrate the complexities of the mutliverse.

@yoursonisold8743 Жыл бұрын

That wouldn't have made much sense, because this Kang was exiled by the others. The entire point was that he was alone and heavily depowered.

@doktrulok24 Жыл бұрын

Watch the end again, I think Scott and team were dropped into a different timeline where they were already dead that Kang already is in control of. There is a lot of green in purple all around him as he’s doing his inner monologue AND there is antman graffiti and we all know that’s how they morn and recognize dead hero’s

@petertomshany Жыл бұрын

When I was a kid, the experience of sitting down with a comic always left me with more questions than it answered. And it was perfect in this. It’s escapism, and plot holes themselves aren’t always antithetical to escapism (just the one’s resulting from lazy writing). These films achieve what the comics did, and more. Before, until the conventions rolled in there was little in the way of community. Now, the fan community is practically everywhere and the films’ success is tied to this change in our culture. Also, in the earlier phases we were always like “can’t wait until the pallet of character expands and crosses over all the time. Well now it’s happening, and we have a breakdown of the simplicity of the overarching story (ie infinity - to - multiverse sagas). Boo hoo. I love it. We’ve always wanted it. Here it is! Marvel Team-Up from the 70s was so central to the development of the comics stories, and I’m happy to see it happening in the films.

@ronaldulysseswizards1161 Жыл бұрын

You have my respect.

@VenniVenomous Жыл бұрын

Amen! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

@chriscon5036 Жыл бұрын

It was my favorite marvel movie all time

@melflewis Жыл бұрын

I thought the sequence in the probability storm was SO clever having all the versions of him work together like the Ants he trained with in the first one And him being able to steal something was the only real reason for Kang and Modok bringing him there which was just like the first one as well… loved the homage and pay-off and All the other problems were forgiven… I loved this movie more than A lot of the other solo marvel movies

@Collect2Disconnect Жыл бұрын

This isn’t a solo movie this is a Antman and The Wasp movie brother a

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

I loved that! I just finished reading Dark Matter, so that was right on topic with where my mind has been at lately.

@melomet3789 Жыл бұрын

I agree that Hope didn't have much to do, but I did like how she was constantly calling out Janet. Even though she has become super successful with Pym van Dyne, she is also trying to make up for lost time like Scott has with Cassie. Yeah wasn't a perfect movie, but I thought it was really entertaining.

@popsequentialism7213 Жыл бұрын

I think the guests seriously underestimate the public's ability to enjoy the top soil of the plot of Quantumania. Kang very much explained his motivation, who he is and what he's all about. There are many more layers that comic obsessives can appreciate and await, but those things don't need to matter to general audiences.

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I think we can't know how well everything was setup until the dust settles after Avengers: Secret Wars.

@slimgrim3607 Жыл бұрын

@@mattosso7676 yeah im one of the few guys who enjoy quite a bit of phase four and quantumania establishes alot of new stuff that im really pumped for. but still, i feel like the mcu needs to end after the multiverse saga. there is literally NOWHERE else to go from the multiverse - which is literally every possible universe and timeline.

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

@@slimgrim3607 That's the challenge...to continue to make Marvel movies that are fresh and give fans a great experience. They're not going to just quit making movies. So they have to continue to reinvent themselves. Creating the multiverse gives them the ability to do that and still maintain some connections with what they've already established.

@zoetrim7400 Жыл бұрын

Definitely, his background is quite clearly explained in the scene with Janet. He's a conqueror who's is destroying whole worlds and timelines. He was banished by people who he wants revenge against (first post-credit scene clearly shows it was the council that did this). But he is trapped in the quantom realm and needs to escape to continue doing what he was doing. That is his motivation and background described enough for a casual viewer to understand. As a comic geek, you can understand more, but a casual viewer gets plenty of detail to understand what's happening and why

@yoursonisold8743 Жыл бұрын

@@zoetrim7400 This sums it up nicely. The movie does everything it can to make you not reliant on Loki too. Kang literally does a condensed version of the speech He Who Remains did, even using similar key visuals. I am fairly certain that people who have not watched Loki or Multiverse of Madness can easily follow this plot.

@ThriftyTeacherTrips Жыл бұрын

The multiverse is easy to understand. Every choice leads to a different branch in the time line. Therefore any choice out of character reflects a different personality trait & character tendency. That's why each Kang will react differently.

@jays658 Жыл бұрын

I haven’t seen anyone say this but, with the rumors going around that the Beyonder will be a Kang variant, I think that this version of Kang being sucked into the multiversal engine will be what turns him into the Beyonder. It was my immediate thought with the white light that immediately flashes afterwards.

@kaci111128 Жыл бұрын

I REALLY enjoyed the format of this video.

@alwaysemployed656 Жыл бұрын

Just seen it on Disney Plus. It's a visually beautiful film! The story is "Too Much. Too Fast". Feels like they compressed an entire season of a popular TV show into a two hour film. We know we were supposed to root for the Freedom Fighters fight against Kang, but the story moved too fast in a medley of so many other things that we don't get enough time to develop an affection for the Freedom Fighters. The film seems more like a two hour long movie trailer.

@Driver_Failure Жыл бұрын

do you remember when Kang says that the worst thing they could have done was leave him there longer, to prepare? I imagine that was not a throw away line, and that he's now in a probability chamber, and we saw that all of the Scott Langs and wasps could come to an agreement, so what if this Kang the Conqueror, now gets to strategize and train with all of his kang "variants" that also share his resentment of being trapped, echoing that same warning that they shouldn't have given him more time

@bentertainmentproductions8451 Жыл бұрын

It wasn’t a cinematic masterpiece but it was far from the worst of the MCU. I love that it was a movie that finally pushed the overall narrative for “The Multiverse Saga” forward. Fun ride, incredibly weird sometimes, but it’s was only possible for them to go weird if it was somewhere like the quantum realm. The saving Grace of the film, pretty much every scene that included Jonathan Major’s heavily compelling performance of Kang the Conqueror.

@chrisbrown8748 Жыл бұрын

I don’t know about far from the worst it’s definitely in the bottom tier of MCU films.

@SoulShines4U Жыл бұрын

"Pushing the overall narrative" is exactly why critics have panned the movie.

@shevisloane6535 Жыл бұрын

On first view I thought it was by far the worst MCU film to date and not even close to Ant Man 1

@tome497 Жыл бұрын

It's closer to the bottom than the top... which is damn near true of every marvel product post endgame.

@SoulShines4U Жыл бұрын

@diggy dub - You didn't see a push forward? They literally introduced who the next villian will be for the next several movies and the final scene was Scott worried about what was coming next. How is that not a push forward or a "stay tuned" for the next movie in the franchise?

@soumyakantamahapatra7618 Жыл бұрын

People are not appreciating straight up just enjoyable pop culture movies and shows. It hurts when people trash movies saying stuff like they don't understand anything at all. like you said, we are indeed living in a great time for pop culture fans.

@pauljosephresus354 Жыл бұрын

The fact that the rebels where insta killed by Kang's blasts, but the main protagonist only get a knockback effect like it was a bullet

@sweepyourspeech8350 Жыл бұрын

Extra extra no one read about um

@coreypatterson8426 Жыл бұрын

This is honestly my only big gripe with the film.

@captainmartin1219 Жыл бұрын

Bro come one. At this point you should know the main characters automatically use plot armor.

@pauljosephresus354 Жыл бұрын

@@captainmartin1219 yep, but this was too obvious, the logic was gone at that time. I know an example is how iron man can take damage logically even with armor but we can hardly think about it because the bad guys don't insta kill the background characters. This one, the rebels didn't even put up a fight against kang even just by a few seconds. Kang beat thor but can't insta kill ants

@captainmartin1219 Жыл бұрын

@@pauljosephresus354 Lol 🤣🤣😆. Dude phase 4 is really bad 😞. O get what your saying. My expectations for this phase are so low that nothing I hear about this films really bothers me because I expect worse going in.

@_DreamzGaming Жыл бұрын

Answer to thumbnail: No!!!

@AGIORDANO0929 Жыл бұрын

I would have enjoyed Kang having a solo origin movie

@FredT1988 Жыл бұрын

It can still happen 😎

@christopherwilson3703 Жыл бұрын

the final episode of loki does the best job of kang explaining who he is and where he impacts the grand scheme of everything I think if someone saw that before they saw Ant-man quantum mania, let's be pretty much up to speed .

@Chucklet Жыл бұрын

The best line was when Kang yells GIVE IT TO ME JANET. The anger in his voice was so excellent.

@luisguterres7747 Жыл бұрын

Was he telekinetic? or did he control tech? i thought that as more his wheelhouse, being able to control his opponent's technology and whatnot

@number-qm2uh Жыл бұрын

The part that I really liked was when hank brings all the ants and I was like woo that's the og ant man . Kang was fantastic and the world was cool.

@SilortheBlade Жыл бұрын

Sounds like your real life hang ups are spilling into the movie. Luckily for you that was a very minor part of the movie, and the only thing you needed to take away from it is help people who need help. Unless that is a problem for you.

@supersaiyandio1223 Жыл бұрын

@@SilortheBlade you good man ?

@arandomdog8959 Жыл бұрын

@@SilortheBlade bro what 😂😂 are you good

@octavianusroemenken8952 Жыл бұрын

There’s scene when Ant-Man meets his other variants created from many possibilities. In the end Scott transfers Kang in to that place. Imagine the infinite amounts of Kangs.

@xunclekevinx Жыл бұрын

There were so many plot holes in this movie that it really sullied the experience for me, and I'm not someone who is easily annoyed by stuff like that. The one that I haven't heard mentioned by anyone yet is that when Kang has his "fine, I'll do it myself" moment near the end, and he starts shooting the townspeople with his blaster, he's quite clearly vaporizing people, but when he starts fighting with the Ant-gang, his blaster simply knocks them a bit backwards. Did he set it to stun? Does he not want to actually kill Ant-Man? Are there horse socks? Is anyone listening to me?

@nova_lark Жыл бұрын

Love your content as always! :) Offering a different perspective on the finale of the film: I would argue that the perceived "weakness" of Kang being "defeated" by the Wasp at the end actually further _lends_ itself to Kang's threatening nature and the development of his character in the MCU - but in the _long_ term. Those of us deep in the nitty-gritty details are aware of what, who, and the scale of what Kang represents. I like the idea that they are establishing here that even when you _think_ you have beaten Kang, how will our heroes ever know? This is driven further home by the epilogue sequence (which I agree made the whole film for me as well as a great ending). Overall, totally agree it's a mid-tier film but it is also my 2nd favorite Ant Man and I am so happy we are finally officially in new primary villain territory.

@apoorvsingh4459 Жыл бұрын

That is what i thought too, he is a different kind of threat than thanos. There is no end to him, even if you are able to kill him somehow. It is more of a psychological threat

@eduardomarquezbarrios1315 Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of missed opportunities. Scott could respond to Cassie's activism by quoting the Sokovia accords; he was on Cap's side, and going to Germany put him in jail and made Hank and Hope to be on the run. Also, the redeemed one could have done it by helping in that ending, maybe he helps (he did it once, maybe with Janet's help could do it backward) and uses that as an escape and that's how Scott and Hope should have been left behind.

@DEricKesler Жыл бұрын

Scott Lang was on Steve Roger’s side in Civil War simply because he admires Captain America. The character is smart, but he isn’t a deep thinker.

@WiloPolis03 Жыл бұрын

The Sokovia Accords have been repealed though

@noraduran209 Жыл бұрын

How cool would it have been to have Luis do a quick recap in the beginning of the movie about the events since End Game, including the book tour as Scott’s book tour manager.

@Sam-jf8hj Жыл бұрын

I was not disappointed by the movie like I did with multiverse of madness. Quantumania was best movie since endgame.

@buca9696 Жыл бұрын

If this crap is the best since endgame then it's really sad.

@Sam-jf8hj Жыл бұрын

@@buca9696 then what is the best after endgame tell me?

@hethvardhanshah3084 Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-jf8hj spiderman no way home easily is the best after endgame

@Sam-jf8hj Жыл бұрын

@@hethvardhanshah3084 no way home should have been a grand movie like spiderman into spiderverse but it was ok story wise. Without all the cameos movie has nothing.

@mattgabe4746 Жыл бұрын

@@Sam-jf8hj but it did have the cameos

@nicholasdavis1740 Жыл бұрын

The question I had was everytime he grows big in this movie was he technically just normal size since he's in the quantum realm?

@roynobleza4 Жыл бұрын

Quantum realm was vast universe bro

@ehecatl6343 Жыл бұрын

He'd still be super mini/microscopic and imperceptible to human size perspective but giant in the beyond microscope world of the quantum realm they were in.

@Andrew-ww1hz Жыл бұрын

My question is… how on earth were they able to still shrink in the quantum realm if they are (presumably) at the smallest state they can possibly be in (i.e. Planck length)?

@brianb99 Жыл бұрын

I don't believe Kang was using telekinesis, it was his tech. The gloves light up when he makes hand gestures to control Scott and Cassie. Looks like telekinesis though.

@blewan Жыл бұрын

What if Kang orchestrated this entire thing? What if what Janet saw when she touched the machine wasnt his past, but his future?... he needed the power infused into him vs being in the chair... that's why Scott has the bad feels, he is subconsciously noticing all the purple, and feeling it was too easy.. he's smart enough to know he should have lost, and badly at that, but happy to have the time with his family- which IS what Kang promised him...

@KamKing19 Жыл бұрын

I look at the title Ant-Man and the Wasp as referring to Janet and Scott in this movie. The second was about all four and the first was about Scott and Hope.

@allstar729 Жыл бұрын

I also thought the theme of this movie was going to be Scott feeling bad that he lost so much time with Casie. But the movie isn’t about that at all. One of my biggest issues with the movie is no one even seems threatened by kang. Scott isn’t moved, hank isn’t moved, hope wants to understand why kang is a threat but she can’t, Janet is terrified of him but she literally does not explain the so called grace danger. All these mcu movies set up such big ambitions in the trailer and make you anticipate something threatening and then you watch the movie and it’s just not that serious at all.

@yoursonisold8743 Жыл бұрын

Janet saw what Kang did and Kang explained what he did, so you get the gist. But even outside of his Conqueror identity he build an empire in the Quantum Realm on his own and was basically unstoppable until an entire army of Type 2 civilization ants and Modok broke his underpowered suit. The man is just human without his tech, yet he still was a major threat with the scraps he had here. I think the movie maybe failed to convey these limitations enough.

@TheChancellor212 11 ай бұрын

@@yoursonisold8743that’s all “telling”, though. They don’t *show* us enough for him to be a serious villain. And now he’s 0-2. We’ve seen two Kangs, and both were quickly dispatched. Not doing a great job of setting up the new Big Bad Guy.

@yoursonisold8743 11 ай бұрын

@@TheChancellor212 Totally wrong. Not only did the movie show him blow up a planet in his rage in the flashbacks Janet saw, they also showed how he build a goddamn empire in the Quantum Realm and made incredibly powerful tech that by far outclasses anything we've seen until now... with scraps. He Who Remains basically comittied suicide through Sylvie. He was untouchable until he allowed her to kill him. So that isn't a loss. And Kang Prime in this movie had the worst odds of any Kang and was depowered on purpose. The movie it trying to give you that uneasy feeling that defeating Kang is never the end and might only make things worse.

@jonutley6607 Жыл бұрын

The eerie part at the end seemed to me to indicate that an alternate version of Ant Man was what defeated Kang, not the original version, or (more likely) that he created an incursion to an alternate world than his own. This could mean that it was Kang's intention to get beaten and that he'll come back way more powerful due to his closer access to his tech, which would be awesome.

@jayw3512 Жыл бұрын

Agree

@Megarobotsquadron Жыл бұрын

this reminded me a lot of the "destroyer of worlds" thing from Stargate SG1. You don't need to know too much about Kang's backstory. you just have to know what they are capable of and that it's now your fault

@AriSafari293 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it a lot, of course not perfect but over all it was cool. Wish it did use Kang more or give more info about him but I understand they’re saving it for later. Like a 7/10

@leegitness2190 Жыл бұрын

That Kang will most likely return. The end may have even gave him a power up.

@simplestuff1247 Жыл бұрын

Definitely better than Thor 4 and doctor strange 2 by far

@leegitness2190 Жыл бұрын

@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer either that or he figures out a way to absorb the probability field from his device. Imagine if he infuses it with himself and gains the power of time/multiverse travel without the chair

@joasbenjamin6804 Жыл бұрын

7/10 what movie did you watch that a solid 4

@joasbenjamin6804 Жыл бұрын

@Dana White's Cocaine Dealer Marvel fans are like Zack’s fans

@akersftw6622 Жыл бұрын

I very much enjoyed you saying “streets ahead” 😂😂

@johnmichaelbeck2097 Жыл бұрын

Another cool callback/Easter egg is to West Coast Avengers in how Hank is dressed when he walks in with the ant cavalry. That entire look is inspired from his days know simply as Dr Pym on the WCA. The scarf for sure sells it.

@iloveentertainment Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan. Great discussion in a civil way. Setting a great example of how we should be discussing a movie 👍 I appreciate Screen Crush’s explanation videos of these movies - it enhances my viewing experiences of the movies. The end credits in this movie was better than for Dr Strange in Multiverse of Madness, Thor Love and Thunder. Those mid-end credit scenes introduced characters that we had never seen in the MCU before and then never saw them again afterwards. I think if you had seen Loki season 1, esp the finale, then the mid and post credit scenes makes sense. But if you had not seen or forgotten about the events of Loki then it will be confusing.

@scenic871 Жыл бұрын

Quantumania was the most comic-book-feeling MCU film so far to me. And in a way that worked. Model was kinda goofy, but it made sense I'm content, the crazy ant pile of Scott variants, then linking it all together with a big villain and family working together to survive

@essasolex Жыл бұрын

just watch cartoons then, Quantumania was the least genuine live action film so far.

@davidrice752 Жыл бұрын

I think when Janet picked up the orb she should of seen Kang kill variants of MCU characters (maybe hope) and wipe out major cities. That would of helped build his character.

@AAX1975 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it with family in friends. Had about 8 people altogether and we were all pleased afterwards. It's not Engame level..it was Ant-Man and it was better than the first two. It sounds like it's doing well with a $359m take after this past weekend. That's pretty good.

@jjbrunner207 Жыл бұрын

I loved it, beginning to end. Mainly because I accept what the storytellers want me to see, not what I expect to see.

@catalinmihailescu Жыл бұрын

People with brain spotted

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

Expectation really is the key. I've learned that for me my expectation directly corelates with how much I enjoy a movie. The high the expectation, the more I've found myself to be disappointed. Now my litmus test is simply, "Are you not entertained?!?!" And for me, the answer was unequivocally "yes!"

@tamikas9425 Жыл бұрын

Yes they are building up and so just enjoy the ride

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

@@tamikas9425 Yep. Otherwise why even bother going to the movies.

@anneu3068 Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's great that this movie promotes socialism which, as we all know, never killed anyone and is by far the best thing to aim at. GO MARVEL

@thisiskindacrap13 Жыл бұрын

Movie was really good! Jonathan Mayors is insanely talented.. Thor 4 has nothing against this movie

@proxjayant Жыл бұрын

@skimasktheuglygod5865 Жыл бұрын

@@proxjayant just watch more Screen crush

@TIGER-xk4gk Жыл бұрын

Thor 4 is an great movie, shut up

@therestinghornet6906 Жыл бұрын

@@proxjayant Think of time as water, multiple states but can be shaped. When the sacred timeline is in shape, then time is in a bottle with lid by the "He Who Remains" which is a multiversal end point. There will always be a He Who Remains at the end to cap it all together. And before that happens the water must be out and open and wild. So when he dies, the water is spilled, and eventually one of him is created and re-establishes a timeline

@21loveandmusic Жыл бұрын

I don’t think he was using telekinesis. I think he was manipulating his technology. Like Modoc he created so he controls, and then they were locked in his cell so he was able to control them by something that appeared like telekinesis.

@yakkodawakko9387 Жыл бұрын

I think the holding back on Kang & possibly making him seem a bit weak is intentional. I think they want him to seem like he shouldn't be feared until a certain point. & then theyre gonna show us something crazy that lets you know how dangerous he is.

@DanHosler Жыл бұрын

I saw it last night and I was blown away. I went in expecting this to be a flashy cgi movie. Kang absolutely crushed it, I was sitting there guessing lines and most of the time I was wrong but in a good way. Cons, there's a lot of down time. I didn't care at all about the freedom fighters, kinda bummed they killed off Modok

@e3vL1 Жыл бұрын

It's darren!

@davisbowe8668 Жыл бұрын

I couldn't believe that they killed off MODOK after one fucking movie. I get that he's not a huge villain like Thanos or Kang but he's still one of the Avengers' primary antagonists in the comics and in most cartoons, and should've survived in some way. Though I suppose they could always bring in a new "MODOK" if they wanted to.

@chrisbrown8748 Жыл бұрын

Haha god I hope your a Marvel/Disney exec😂😂😂

@GetOnMyHypeJP Жыл бұрын

I have a feeling this isn't the last time we see Modok.

@askiani Жыл бұрын

I hope MODOK is still alive.

@JasonGuySmiley Жыл бұрын

It seemed like they wanted to draw a parallel to Janet's offer vs Scott's offer but the offer to Scott was never made explicit, they seemed to just change it to murdering Cassie instead

@MossOwnsYouYT Жыл бұрын

I really liked Quantumania, but I can agree that it felt like a huge plotline where Scott and Cassie didn't see eye to eye got cut for time that they gave to Kang instead of the Langs. I would have loved to see it go both ways and Scott having trust in Kang, then having the "Our word is our bond" thing leading to him staying behind in the Quantum Realm to keep his word to Cassie that he would rescue people, and that traps him away from her at the end of the film. End with them figuring that they will never be able to get back without Modok's machine, ambiguous in their future.

@WhatisTheRealMeaningofThisSong Жыл бұрын

Kang was a really interesting villain. Loved how they added more layers to his character throughout the movie. Phase 5 here we go!

@theoutlawking9123 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, if Kang is suppose to be the next Big bad, then they shouldn't have entrusted his debut to an Ant-Man film. Ant-Man just ain't big or popular enough, so they potentially messed up their villain before he even got started!

@quinezleebos Жыл бұрын

Ant man is a absolute point in time they had to start there if you watched Loki tv show stay down it’s gone get better

@LucasTowers__ Жыл бұрын

Big disagree. Ant Man is part of the Avengers and really deserved this because at the end of the day, like or not, he is basically the reason why in that universe everyone is still alive (and, of course, the rat who touch the button KEKW) , the problem is HOW they introduce him. They had blank check to explain how he lost the war against the other kangs, what is the purpose of his annihilation. They showed him like a huge deal, the Bogeyman, just to kill him like nothing.

@theoutlawking9123 Жыл бұрын

@@LucasTowers__ literally proving my point, he lost to Ant-Man, who the MCU turned into a joke. How are fans suppose to take this guy seriously as the next big threat, when he lost to the comic-relief of the Avengers!?

@Magdalena8008s Жыл бұрын

I absolutely loved this film. It's literally what I wanted to see. It's not perfect, but I have seen it 3 times already. I love Marvel but I normally only see a film once in theaters. But whatever it is about this film is bringing me back. Now with that said, of course film is subjective, but some are acting like this film is the worst thing ever made. And I think 80% of it is people who do like it, but the cool thing is to hate. And that is the absolute worst of fandom. Point is, I am hype for phase 5 and where this all leads.

@blakeloper2285 Жыл бұрын

4:00 Holy F! you guys got me! I am freakin' out! 😂 😂

@fufu5068 Жыл бұрын

My wife never got into marvel movies. She didn't care about Kang or whatnot. But she somehow really enjoyed this movie. She just enjoyed for what it is.

@tristansherwin Жыл бұрын

Saw it last night, thought it was a fantastic film. Looking forward to the rest of phase 5 and how the council of Kangs plays out.

@jharry1848 Жыл бұрын

People are disappointed by the fact that kang was defeated by a surprise attack and ant and wasp team impermanent victory. They forgot that the most terrifying kang thing is that he is everywhere. I'm with Ryan on this one!

@robi-wankenobi6416 Жыл бұрын

I feel like all the Ant Man movies just have this little”it’s a comedy film and it’s happy so no one dies” thing and that was mostly fine at first but the more films they make with no one dying the less we will be expecting someone to die and qantumania being the most serious of them all, I feel like that’s a bit of a problem, especially that Janet helped the big bad of the saga and then they defeat him and literally walk out of it with barely any consequences

@berkle Жыл бұрын

Also Scott's sacrifice in the end is so short lived with them being brought right back

@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын

I enjoy the movie alot I just wish that they were some more immediate consequences for a story involving kang.

@qfranklin2777 Жыл бұрын

Me too

@jakestadig5438 Жыл бұрын

Going into this movie i had this feeling that it is basically guaranteed to be good because the directors and screenwriters and all that obviously understood the extreme importance of this movie because this is how they set up the entire next phase of marvel and could potentially be a make or break for the rest of the entire MCU. And i think they did what they had to, it was nothing crazy but it’s good enough and that’s all it really has to be.

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

Let's not forget that this is the beginning of Phase 5. So this movie, while a complete story unto itself, is just the setup for everything else coming after it. I'm curious to see how we view this film after the Phase 6 is complete. It'll be interesting to see how well (or poorly) it set everything up.

@renz5960 Жыл бұрын

@@mattosso7676 we're talking about the movie itself, why would you focus more on the setup when it is the end of the Ant-Man trilogy? Garbage writing. And this writer will also write Avengers Kang Dynasty, Avengers is doomed.

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

@@renz5960 It has to serve three functions. 1. Be a complete story unto itself. 2. Be the climax of the Ant-Man trilogy. 3. Serve as the setup for the next phase in the MCU. I think it works fine on all 3 levels.

@renz5960 Жыл бұрын

@@mattosso7676 it doesn't deliver lol, critics, audience and box office tells you that 😂

@mattosso7676 Жыл бұрын

@@renz5960 Rotten Tomatoes audience score is 83%. So fans clearly enjoyed it.

@tekkersmo3816 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the points about cohesiveness as far as the overall story depending on how active you are as a viewer. I wonder if that would change if they started changing the names of shows to be preludes, interludes, or postludes to the films that people do actually see. Like if Wandavision had been Prelude to Doctor Strange 2 or if The Falcon and the Winter Soldier had been a Prelude to Captain America 4 and Black Panther 2. Just an official acknowledgement from the studio of what is suggested/relevant viewing for each actual film. Also gives characters the ability to appear in things that aren't their own namesake projects like the comics, I thought that was the most fun part of Civil War was getting surprised with Black Panther and Spider-Man.

@midago7332 Жыл бұрын

I saw it today, enjoyed it quite a bit. I saw Loki and rewatched the last episode before I went in. Majors was totally owning it and nah definitely not dead in my opinion. I hear one guy behind at the end saying to his mate, whoa was that Loki. He had not seen the D+ shows. There are some key moments in the shows for movies going forward. Hopefully they slow down on the shows.

@deelystanonfightcade2 Жыл бұрын

The comment about Kang being beaten/beatable, I believe it’s a precursor to a major power increase. I think the goal for Kangs narrative is for the audience to legitimately identify with his journey (more so than Thanos which I think was accidental) and root for him as he obtains power and fights the council even as that brings him into inevitable conflict with fan favorite characters.

@marcustar Жыл бұрын

Three words: MORE 👏 SPECIAL 👏 PRESENTATIONS 👏… we can’t wait years to find out how the gobs of plot holes are filled. And we don’t need series necessarily. Give us those special presentations and then try to keep each movie standalone, but rewards those of us who are diehards.

@liammeekes4769 Жыл бұрын

When Janet saw into kang’s memories as a conqueror, I thought the scenes of him burning the world were the same as that of when he burned the city in the quantum realm. Is this possible or could it just be budget cuts?

@Walsfeo Жыл бұрын

One thing I thought was particularly amusing was the occasional line about things/people being so small, or so big when they were in the quantum realm. None of them were ever particularly big, they were all freaking small. Do you have a link to the MCU rankings you mentioned in the episode?

@jordteps1775 Жыл бұрын

For those of you being shocked Kang didn’t win.. he needed to lose in order for the kang dynasty to win. He was the kang that would go on to create the TVA and seperate all multiverses into singular timelines. Scott now just let the Kang dynasty free and now they have a bigger problem on their hands. He was the one good kang

@BlackRobin71 Жыл бұрын

Exactly! They would have been better off letting Kang escape.

@MrPeterPFL Жыл бұрын

Interesting theory but the problem is that Kang the Conqueror doesn’t like the other Kangs and the other Kangs don’t like him hence why they exiled him. Possibly he “intentionally lost” so that The Citadel of Kangs (Kang Dynasty) will fight the Avengers to protect the multiverse, they all lose to the Avengers leaving Kang the Conqueror the last Kang alive.

@20Justin1 Жыл бұрын

I think it's simpler than that. Kang, by himself has no powers, he's like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne. But when he has his suit and it's powered up by the multiverse engine and all that, he's near invincible. I felt like the stakes in this movie were high because when Kang has his suit in and it was powered on and maxed out, you can see that he isn't a force to be reckoned with. However, when they were able to disable his suit he basically became a regular guy, a buff dude with some muscle and fighting skills, but just a regular dude. He doesn't have those blue beams that instantly kill people or can make a impenetrable force field around him.

@PoetaGuerrera Жыл бұрын

I think that at the end, Scott is trapped in a loop that's not real. I dont think he defeated Kang at all. I think he's stuck in an illusion. That's why things are slightly off.