$30

40$

Maybe I just no nothing about "gun collecting" but myself and literally everyone I know who's into firearms would put more stock I'm a firearm that's restored and functional then a wall hanger any day. Maybe I'm just too uncultured.

@@mariongonzalez2621 in my book if it can't fire or easily be repaired unless it was the only one left or had some historical significance it's completely worthless.

The 1958 Remington was a modern repro. It is worth about 50 bucks in good condition.

@Der Congo MannYes it is. He got real lucky that all the innards were present and useable. Often that is not the case. I have done well over 200 rescues over the years. I can count on one hand, using my thumb only, the number times I got this lucky. :-)

Being in fireable condition has a lot to do with value as well. An old rust bucket is not worth much. Even for the a150-year-old gun, is only worth 70$. Because it was in non-working order.

Yes that is in great condition I bet the beauty would work like a charm

Once it's pitted, you're past patina and into damage. This isn't a rough old car, this is the car with a rust hole in the floorboards and no doors.

@Spartan Batty Rust and grime is not patina. Tarnished brass, nicks, scratches, and aged wood furniture is patina. When you own an antique gun you still have to maintain it like a modern firearm or it will just degrade over time. People who consider damage like rust and grime are the ones that are antique experts that got their knowledge from Pawn Stars.

I'm a big fan of restoring old stuff and never understood how it decreases value BUT that's not a chance I would take on an old firearm. Some can be quite valuable. This is also a unfinished project he completely removed the finish from this firearm and did not apply a new one. In my opinion he ruined it.

It now looks like a souvenir from Pakistan.

My take: value has no permanence, nor objective meaning. It's merely a buzzword thrown around by "collectors".

A rusty item can be boiled in plain water for 30 minutes at a time. It turns the brown rust to black oxide that can be polished with very fine "0000" steel wool. This is how guns were originally finished. If he had done that to this gun, it would have turned out amazing. There's no need for rust remover. Edit: remove the wood first though!

SkinnyErectus haha ikr

Lmaooo

Which chemicals would you recommend? I just started with electrolysis and it works well, but the rust comes back quickly when the part is left exposed to air, I haven't tried rubbing the pieces with fine steel wool after drying the pieces, could that be why?.

Sascha Is this question about cast iron cookware or guns, knives and tools? Cookware can be dried in the oven then coated with cooking oil and put back in the oven to season. Guns, swords and tools are dried well and oiled. Buried relics are given electrolysis then cleaned, dried very well, and dipped in hot wax.

it kind of takes the character away by cleaning it it's not natural anymore

FaultedSkink *Andre will do it*

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FaultedSkink 11mm pinfire hasn't been manufactured in almost 100 years. The ammo for that gun is unobtainable.

Just build a test rig and trigger it from a safe place/distance. Do it Andre :)

At least Im capable of doing much better, and with right tools, which are kinda critical. But I wonder how many of subscribers know anything about restoration or use of tools? I bet not so many. Otherwise these wouldnt be so popular.

None. They're just parroting each other and pontificating. The good thing about the internet is that it gives everyone a voice, it's also the worst thing

@@debraco7748 I did better and would never call mine "restoration" even if it was not such lazy as low effort WD40 cleaning like here. And my Lefaucheux coach gun does SHOOT quite well.

Part of anyone sharing a project like this is to entertain and stimulate conversation both positive or negative. There will always be someone out there that really can do it better .. so what? Over three million views and 1,500 comments, he must of done something right! Cheers ...

wow thats so cool. what got you into restoration like this?

Hi

Better than starring at a computer all day...

Andre Will Do It how much is the fee?

Try restoring a classic car. See how long that takes... I’m at 2 years and still going😂

John Doe thank you

John Doe So that means you have a background in antique guns then ? And you'd rather have a weapon that's worth 300 if your lucky, or say 3000 ? Especially one you may not even be able to fire, after you've destroyed its value ? Yup, that makes LOTS of sense, LOTS ! Those people are saying that because they more than likely know FAR more than you do !

@@ronbennett6396 Why are you so mean to someone you don't know?

Lord Tachanka How exactly am I being mean ? I'm stating facts. Discussing. Just because someone disagrees with something, doesn't mean they're being mean. For many it seems, their idea of someone else being mean is any kind of criticism whatsoever, or anything they don't want to hear, no matter how truthful.

@@ronbennett6396 Then you could have done the job without remarking how little he knows and how senseless his affirmations are with CAPITAL LETTERS. You are being mean that way. Would you talk the same way to him if he were sitting in front of you?

Benjamin Monken I imagine he means steel wool surely? I know you can get lead wool but generally isn’t used for cleaning, especially not cleaning iron/steel- surely lead wool would just disintegrate trying to do that??

@Pierre LeDouche lead wool is a light buffing compound as well as an anti rusting technique. Just something these other comments can't understand. It was a restoration by this fact since he didn't coat the barrel

Patrick Dan haha

This is low effort WD40 + washing, not even near to any type of restoration. The barrels are forged damasteel. How can anybody be so lazy to NOT UNSCREW THE GUN "because it stuck".? How?

Martin Kronström 11mm pinfire has never killed anyone! I don't think any LeFechaux gun has killed anyone. The bullets just bounce off and leave bruises.

So they were mostly decorative? or practice instruments pre paintball?

Guns don't kill people. People kill people, with or without guns. Just kidding, please don't take me seriously :p

Martin Kronström The LeFaucheaux pinfire revolvers were carried in war but were notoriously weak! The one Andre has looks like what was called a "parlor pistol" for indoors target practice. But, maybe it was carried for defense I recently saw a Flobert parlor pistol that had a gutta percha grip and silver inlays.

Martin Kronström reminds me more of pirates

I really reckon you should do another one of these projects, but on something a little bigger! A .410 shotgun or a .22 maybe?

I restore, rebuild, modify air rifles and muzzleloaders myself. New, vintage, and antique. That was about half done in my opinion. But not bad. But yes, it does indeed take a lot of patience and work to make them look good again. Check out my Airgun Shooter and Airgun Fan videos from the last couple years for examples.

He just cleaned it. It’s not a restoration

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Andre Will Do It makes sense. Thanks for responding!

wxwarrior76 Nah, that’s a 19th century firearm. An early one, but still.

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Si el no iso los procesos correctamente tiene que meterlos en acido y luego sacarles la pintura en agua, y luego pulirlo no se este men no iso bien el trabajo

Tornooz lo has dicho con mucha educación, esa restauración es una verdadera PORQUERÍA

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That would be a big blow.

@@willmenday9062 IF YOU DONT HAVE SOMETHING NICE TO SAY THEN SAY NOTHING AT ALL

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El vocho Vw the cleaning is restoring the rusty battered pistol

Integra DIY what did you expect?

Ari Wong I expected the guns inner mechanics to be cleaned and left alone with the original beautiful patina

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In all respect I said (a metric ton of negativity not sxxt) it shows the level of maturity or lack. I restore old cars, but I never make then look new, If I made a 1920's car look new, I personally feel I disrespect it. Again, people, this is my own opinion. Not asking anyone to subscribe to my way of thinking. But, and it's a big but, if you purchase an item, that's old, age it is a thing people can not fake, people try. Why make an old item look new, its old enjoy the old. Gael Yonnet, if you think to restore or preserve is to paint it black with new varnish on the handles, you're helping my case. But all if you purchase an item, that looks real(ish) only to find its a fake, you will all bitch why has this happened, but your not able to take the blame, this is exactly what you asked for. keep old, old, let the fakers try to do the work. I would ask for any museum, how would you like to find and show it. I would bet its not with all the years and patina and providence, chemically removed, I can do that every day, but I like the customer to know exactly what they're getting. Real old, not old that has been made to look new, and then made to look old. Keep it real people. Dave

Still looks old though, just well preserved. I like the look of the handle very much

In my personal opinion it didn’t have any patina it just looked neglected.

STFU

Né!

Idk. No bluing and possible bore damage

@@thegreatchickenoverlord5976 I'm certain this had no blueing ever.

Don't confuse rust and patina. Patina is collectors value, rust is damage.

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Mr_ Reee probably auctions estate sales flee markets pawn shops and maybe eBay

Yeah, most restoration channels make this mistake when they "restore" guns.

It should, if only it's too pitted, have the finish REMOVED. Then it should have been...."BROWNED" Same as blueing....only in olden days it was a brown color. That's why it LOOKED rusty. And YES ....IT IS NOW NEAR WORTHLESS TO A TRUE COLLECTOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@@danielmankey9635 But now he can shoot a piece of history. Money isn't everything. But I agree, he should apply some kind of protective finish.

@RESPECT MY AUTHORITY non firing around $50-100, firing maybe $200-300 if in good condition. If he used some Birchwood Casey plum brown I'd see someone paying around $200 if it shoots. He didn't butcher it with a wire wheel like so many other amateur restorers...

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chronoboat you are slow

That _is_ restoration, at the most basic level.

Isn't cleaning restoring

Great all u need to do is shoot me wit it

I'll do that, if I'll know who you are and where you

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Andrew Wilson explain yourself

עילאי ביטון I was explicit enough.

These guns shipped "in the white" frequently. The patina you are mentioning is just rust.

That active rust is called hematite or FE2O3, if you were to boil those parts in basic tap water, some of the hematite will turn into magnetite or FE3O4 which will not corrode and will act as a barrier to further corrosion or “just rust”. Try it next time, you might be surprised.

aslob 9 Would it be a problem if the water was from a well that was hard from calcium and magnesium? Would distilled water be preferable? I've never heard of this method.

The Beardy Farmer: Adventures in Agriculture + I don’t think it would matter, the minerals should not affect the process. Here is an excerpt from Wikipedia: RUST BLUING, Rust bluing was developed between hot and cold bluing processes. It was originally used by gunsmiths in the 19th century to blue firearms prior to the development of hot bluing processes. The process was to coat the gun parts in an acid solution, let the parts rust uniformly, then immerse the parts in boiling water to convert the red oxide Fe2O3 to black oxide Fe3O4, which forms a more protective, stable coating than the red oxide. The boiling water also removes any remaining residue from the applied acid solution (often nitric acid and hydrochloric acid diluted in water). Then loose oxide was carded (scrubbed) off, using a carding brush or wheel. A carding brush is a wire brush with very soft, thin (usually about .002 thick) wires. This process is repeated until the desired depth of color is achieved or the metal simply will not color any further. This is one of the reasons rust and fume bluing tend to be more rust resistant than any other method. The parts are then oiled and allowed to stand overnight. This process leaves a deep blue/black finish. Modern home hobbyist versions of this process typically use a hydrogen peroxide and salt solution, sometimes with vinegar, for the rusting step [3] to avoid the need for more dangerous acids

Patina doesn't leave rust pits, only rust leaves rust pits, and if its pitting then it needs to be removed. So you try and watch the video closer next time.

There wasn't much value in the first place, not a big deal

P3Studios not sure he cares, as I definitely wouldn’t want to sell that. I don’t speak for him, but I’m guessing he doesn’t want to either.