Yeah, I just despise the ending.

My comment shows up if you click the "show all" option. You're a Christian? No, choosing a life of child murder and human sacrifice does not beat a patriarchal society. Who the hell was the revenge against? Her parents were dead and so were "centuries" of people who did wrong before her. Puritans had a religion with an element of fear like most religions, and we just saw they were greatly justified in some of their most extreme beliefs about witches. So..justice is her becoming a witch? There is no evil in quotes here, what we saw in the film was wicked and darkness in its worst forms; killing a baby is evil and that's not up for debate except for VERY twisted individuals. Rather than become a slave to "dogmatically puritan society", she's a slave to the SAME people who slaughter other human beings for power and destroyed everything she loved. She's a slave to blood crimes and cold, self-serving women and Satan, who reveled in both the evils of female oppression and the murder of innocents. It's the most pathetic and weak choice anyone could ever make.

@GiRayne The father "had it coming", after he already lost two of his children and begged God's wrath on himself rather than lose any others; in other words, he was ready to die for them. He also refused to see Thomasin as a witch for a long time and then refused to harm her when he doubted her. It's easier if one can write off every other character, including three innocent kids, but it rather takes away from a lot of the story to me. The mother lost her MIND; she was damaged from grief, delusion and fear, which was a result of losing loved ones and seeing very real signs of witchcraft. Every family member reacted from fear which was not entirely irrational, as was proved from the beginning, and they also reacted from grief that warps rational minds even today. What choice did she have? You're assuming the town would blame her instead of at all believing that her dogmatic father, who they disliked, had taken the family into what turned out to be dangerous circumstances. If she didn't return to the town, she could have sought out Natives; anything would have been better than choosing serial killers as a new family for pretty dresses and butter. How is that not evil? I may not see EVERYTHING as black and white, but a blood-stained coven that kills infants to make flying ointment is very, very black. Some believe that Thomasin was really the murderess all along and finally lost her mind or died in the end; I can understand that as relieving or cathartic. But I can't view the film as half symbolic or half literal, so I've been describing it in the literal sense. However, I'm unclear now as to how you're seeing it. It's partly literal with some parables to you? And you see the supernatural forces as projections of fear, with Thomasin actually choosing the forest or a more harmless power in the end?

@GiRayne I deleted my reply for now, because I don't want to wake up anxious about another lengthy analyses of such a disturbing subject again yet. Just saying that here in case you wonder why the reply is missing.

The father just lost a second child and had every other member of his family screaming accusations of devilry in his ears; I'm not surprised he lost it a little bit and shut half the family away from him. He still doubted the goat was possessed, an unusual thing for a Puritan. The kids should have been allowed back into the house well before dark, but the mother was so unstable, I wondered if that was part of the reason they weren't. After everything, the dad still begged to be taken rather than his children. "well, the text of the film tells us nothing about any of the tribes in the area." We know they were definitely around, and still a better option than joining serial killers. As for William's beliefs, the Puritans were known to be Calvinists; never a pleasant belief system, but he gave Caleb what comfort he could about the baby. Most people who lose sanity under duress had some weakness in their minds already, and that explains the mother too; the deaths and illusions of her children broke her. In the beginning, however, I took her facial expression to be one of eager happiness. The director also said deleted scenes showed a happier relationship between herself and Thomasin early on, so what followed was greatly related to the mother losing her baby and partly blaming herself, as well as the father and Thomasin. "because Thomasin clearly knew better; more grounded/rational, less fearful and obsessed with self-sin and damnation." Thomasin knew that she didn't steal the cup, wasn't a witch, and didn't harm Samuel; knowing her own innocence doesn't make her more rational and she showed the same fear as any Puritan at clear signs of witchcraft throughout. It's not surprising her mother found the story of Sam just disappearing to be weird. Of course it wasn't fair that she was blamed for the cup, but her mother's choice of words about it showed that she was still in doubt, and messed up, over Sam's disappearance. She was also the only one who blamed Thomasin for the cup or Samuel (besides the bratty girl-twin); the entire family and society as a whole did not. But some of the film's audience DID: many believe she was the title witch all along, causing calamity in the family to force them back to civilization. "It is the ideas of the culture - of their specific dogma - that fuels their delusions, and thus their reactions". But the movie shows they were clearly not deluded about the forces around them. As for the village, the Puritans in reality believed a whole group of lying or sick girls were victims of witchcraft, and it looked like a beast tore through the animals (plus the goat DID gore her father to death). There's certainly a chance Thomasin would be believed, and if she didn't want to trek a day's worth back, any other option would be better than joining her family's killers. There have been terrible choices all through history, including to be killed or to join a murderous group; the coven killed her family and didn't give a damn about her. What kind of life is that? She's about as free as a new hooker taking a high before the pimp sends her to the first john, only in Thomasin's case, she gets to kill people of all ages. It's like if a teenager watched Charles Manson kill her family and then joined his group of murderous whores; they may have seemed free, roaming around like regular hippies, but they were exploited by Manson and did his bidding. These are not innocent pagans romping through the trees, and my only peace with the ending would be if she eventually tried to destroy the group from within. "I as a viewer already damned the community and the family for their own sins". I damned the witch right away as soon as she put a knife to a baby, and personally see her and her bitch coven as far worse than superstitious people trying to survive and do right through their own limited understanding. Being victimized doesn't justify one becoming a murderer themselves. I can't watch the film through lens that are two different colors, part moral travesty and part personal triumph; there may be many allegories, but the witches are only ever portrayed as rotten, whether seen as literal villains or projections of deadly paranoia. Is a longer life lived in cold-blooded slaughter worth an eternity as a suffering slave to the worst evil imaginable? None of this reflects a healthy feminism to me; more like out of the frying pan and into the fire. I'd say Eggerich's intention regarding a Puritan's nightmare was fairly straightforward; he took the gloves off and portrayed witches precisely as the Puritans saw them. Forget Bewitched or Sabrina or even Harry Potter, 21st century audience: to these folk of old, witches were everything to be feared, the very personification of evil, darkness, and predatory power. This is why they feared them so and reacted so violently. Instead of a fiercely beautiful symbol of a strong woman, like most of the witch portrayals we see in fantasies now, we're shown a no-holds barred image of a hideous female leech and a group of younger bloody mongrels, pathetically bowing to the most evil male force in existence. Satanic slaves on a long leash, only for a while.

No idea why you'd find it satisfying.

@@whitespirit26 Think about it. The story, Anya's character's arc and then come back to me. P.S. I don't care if you don't understand. Sorry. 😂🤷‍♂️

I agree. So many would be great horror films suffer from not being able to end it correctly. It Follows would be a good example, though I do think the ending is better than a lot of people give it credit for. The Witch ended perfectly, though.

I'm aware of circular irony and don't find it satisfying or fitting here.

@@whitespirit26 you are a fool then

+Move_I_Got_This Yep you're right that your wrong.. She is gonna be in the upcoming film, "Morgan"

well she is now

Carter Bennett and now she is

Manic Hispanic darn she still is kinda

prophetic words...

let people dress how they want lmao, he's just wearing a black shirt and has a beard

AND who's this Anya? Gorgeous girl, and beautiful performance in her first film! Congratulations! :)

It's one of the better horror films we've gotten in the past few years, hell maybe even a decade or two, but a classic? I surly hope not.

+Goat C. Why would you hope it doesn't become a classic?

+Goat C. lol what? 'I hope it's not a classic' - even though it is one of the best horror films in awhile

@@MrLuckybeast13 I know I’m 4 years late but your comment still doesn’t make sense

+Christhoper Amadeus lol

+christopher the “hateful” fantastic fascist Lol what

@Lob City shes fucking nasty, stank ass red draped, souless ginger fk

She had something to do with killing Anton Yelchin Not to mention her ol arangatang titties

She was cute in the movie

+Molly TI Actress I presume..

+sumoil moily Female actors actually prefer the term 'Actor' since it focuses on their profession rather than their gender.

Okay i get it, but I'm not against feminism at all if you feel so.

+Molly TI I think she'll have an amazing future

she's going to be in the movie "morgan" :)

LoL Hahaha

like

“You know”

Bryan Cruz OMG, can we actually make this happen???

neither of them would be right for carrie (that's an observation, not a putdown).

Eggers would never direct a remake I don’t believe

⁠@@slamboss591how are u feeling about his upcoming frankenstein movie

100% Argentine accent

You called it. Queen's Gambit and Emma really did make her big.

+DomnoSaur Anya Taylor-Joy (born 1996/1997) is an Argentine-Anglo-American actress and model.

+DomnoSaur That is from Wikipedia.

+DomnoSaur I believe she is British and Argentinian, though she was born in America.

DomnoSaur that's what I thought! when I saw interviews of hers(just now)..i was confuse on why she was not speaking British.. lol

I thought she was Irish from this interview.

Indeed. As soon as you cross into New England areas from outside of New England it’s like you FEEL yourself penetrate an imaginary forcefield of dark magic and mystery. It thickens the air. It’s a vibe. A place where wild turkeys ritualistically encircle dead black cats. I love it

+Zeeyang Guo Ur still a perv tho.

Ulansananelan Didn't understand the conversation did you?

I thought she was exploding hot in the movie, maybe because she is my age.

***** I think exploding hot is an understatement, and superbly beautiful too, incredible. I hope she becomes the next jennifer lawrence, featured in every movie till everyone hates her like jennifer lol.

+Macsk8ing WoW

Funny, the only reason I watched that show was because I’ve been a huge fan of her’s ever since this movie came out.

@@StacheBigote preach

@widhbnw efDwdwDW 75% brits don't learn english at 8 years old, or have spanish as their mother tongue. Also she never lived in the US, her family has houses in Buenos Aires and London.

@@aokereturns6054 But if she was born in Miami then she lived in the U.S. for a while.

@@dondragmer2412 she was only born in the US but moved to Argentina right after she was born. Moved to England at 6 years old.

As it should be. I mean wtf with the choice she made? Did she partly lose her mind?

@@whitespirit26 well, actually in the beginning of the film she actually confess about her sins. She's really disappointed about leaving the plantation, and she always wants to live in comfort. She even saying she's starting to become lazy with her works, disobeying her parents, forget her prayers, follow her own desires and ignoring the holy spirit. So after the climax and all of her family member died (and gone). She only follows what she knew, in hope leading into what she wants. On the other hand, she's just a teenager. I mean we already know the temptations in that age, right ? Note : sorry, broken english here and there 😂

She confessed totally normal teen issues at the beginning of the film, and begged God's mercy. Normal teens do not join their parents' murderers, esp if such murderers also killed a baby.

@@whitespirit26 she's already broken at that point, and it was her first instinct to talk to black phillip and she don't really know what was about to happen next. Also she doesn't really know who or what that kill the baby. I mean, you can't use your point of view and today's knowledge to take action of her's here. She all alone in middle of nowhere, her parents bodies are laying dead before her. She's far from civilization, her hands are in bloods of her mother and (perhaps) siblings. She's really fucked up here. So using logical choices and audience's point of view just don't make any sense, because everything that happened before her is literally insane.

She knows exactly what happened to the baby and who killed her family, and she joined them. That's cold-blooded behavior in any century and she doesn't need our knowledge of anything, because EVERY superstitious thing she ever learned as a Puritan girl was just proven before her very eyes.

Our philiphimos tiene mises universos

british-american

IKR? Talk about Atlantic drift! She's floating between proper proper english accent and american throughout the interview.. amazing.

make it easy for her to go from american to british and vice versa.

Bidialectal English/American

Ella vivió en ARGENTINA y no aprendió ingles hasta los 10 años ..

Of all-time, calm down there

She's a STAR

What?

Fuckin pig

American Faggot Hey man chill.... You didn't have to go that far...

Absolutely, just look at our leaders.

+Alvin Capalad how is vvitch like bitch

It's spelled with two v's because that's how the letter W was spelled back in the day lol

Yeah

I thought he was talking about her periods lol xD