This data is partially incorrect, it was tested on gigantic only and there are different formulas for each maps size. An updated video (which rushes through the graphs without going into the detail that this video did) can be found here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zrphraehvt7ec4k.html

im supposed to study for an economics test tomorrow so goal achieved

So I excluded bugs from this video in the hope that they'll be fixed quickly, and not wanting to have to make another video when that happens. There are a few important bugs to be aware of: French: The 30% bonus from the landmark does not currently apply to gold, but does apply to other resources. Mongols: The stone/gold bonus from the improved upgrade currently only grants stone. Mongols: Sometimes you can get unexpected amounts from the quantity bonuses. In one test, I got 10%food/gold from tier 1; 10% wood/gold from tier 2; and nothing from tier 3. In another test, I got the correct 10% in each tier. If anyone else found trader bugs, please leave a comment and I'll add it to this pinned comment.

Thank you very much, this puts things into more perspective.

Gold gain per trip is exponential but the gold per second is linear because longer distances take longer than complete. Overall a very solid system.

I like your channel man. Good luck becoming the new Spirit of the Law for AOE4.

Awesome video! Quality content and editing 👍

Really like your quick but in depth vids man! Thank you. SUBBED

My guy posted his R^2s for video game analysis, I love it.

Really useful info, thanks 🦆 😁

Great video.

You're like AoE 4's own Spirit of the Law! :D

Very interesting, thank you!

Doing God's work

Thank you!

Great video

Good vid!

you should also make a video with hot-keys and how to do fast things like putting farms around the mill with shift + ctrl + A etc. . How to produce armies in an efficient way, how to shuffle between hotkeys... for example, I know how to put farms around the mill, but i dont know how to put at the same time a mill and 8 farms around that in one go (like i have to wait for the mill to be done and after that i do 8 farms).

Good stuff :)

Caution: There is still (03.12.) a bug that the 30% bonus for French doenst work at all for gold! (As i read, it does for food/wood/stone)

Great video, did you happen to factor in the Yam network tech for Mongols? As for a "bug"/"feature" Mongols can half the trip by building the market close then pack up their market and send it to the other side, the distance seems to be checked at the end of route so you get full gold benefit when the trader delivers it at the end. Technically you could do this with two markets and two neutral markets, packing up back and forth before the traders arrive for the whole game.

Ah yes, finally :D

There is an upfront cost for traders. The breakeven threshold may be larger than the ones in the video, after accounting for this factor.

Looks like you didn't take into account mongols +15% speed under outposts (also for 20seconds after leaving outpost aura range) ? @Waddling Duck EDIT: I see you replied down below, might want to add a caption to the video to outline this.

Interesting, thanks.

Interesting to see that Abbasid has the best trading in the game... now I can use this as an argument for Abbasid: The Underrated Civ.

Spirit of the Law, its that you?

At 1:20 you said that obstacles cause the trader to take a detour but generate the exact same gold. I assume you mean the same gold per trip, not gold per time? This can actually have a very big impact on the perfect actual traderoute outside of a testing setting, more than optimal market distance.

How are the Buy Sell boxes used????

Hi. I really appreciate this video and it helped me a lot. I am here requesting would you please allow me to translate this into Bilibili with Chinese so that more could watch and benefit from this. I will note that this is your original and I am only to translate. Thanks again.

what if you build walls to force traders walk longer distances? Will that work?

Does the map size affect the gold per trip on the same distance, like it does in AoEII?

How does including the Mongol Yam network change these numbers? I imagine that 15% increase to speed will add up over time.

2:11 How can the Gold/Second be linear, when the Gold/Trip is exponential? I cant wrap my head around it. If you double the distance you get *more* than double the gold. Meanwhile, if you double the distance, the duration/trip doubles exactly. So you should get more gold per second, right?

ah, this explains why i got 20 gold from my traders making a whole trip around a river, when it's not the traders distance that matters :D

and im just trying to get a basic answer of distance to gold radio, and you're taking me back to highschool. jeesus. - casual player. xD

Hi, Waddling Duck. Are planning on making new videos?

How about I build a market next to a neutral market and spam these silk road camels with 2 pouches...no gold on the map well this going to have to do instant collect turn around and load...10 gold a sec? Got to be a lil content right and 3 keeps surrounding it...no one touches em camels.....Malicious??

Does they trade Cryptos?

Why does the trader look like he was animated at 3fps?

You explained the efficiency of this, but didn't explained the purpose. How to set up? what is the purpose?

btw if you make the market touching the trade post every trader gets +0 gold. don't ask how i know.

Based off the ending of the video I believe the designers should consider having neutral markets giving more value, maybe even tied to the age you are in with later ones giving more bonus. Otherwise why fight over neutral markets in the middle of the map, as design intent seemed to be? At least in larger team games they would appear to be much worse to incredibly worse.

I don't understand, using a Neutral market is 20% more than a regular market, why would there ever be a point you'd use a corner ally market instead of neutral?

I thought this was going to be about the stock market. I was about to tell you terrible lol.

god. why is this video so laggy