I have owned multiple Royal Oaks including the chronograph and the perpetual calendar which was my daily wear for years. I have nothing negative to say regarding the Royal Oak. A few observations though: The finish on the Royal Oak is so exacting it is an absolute scratch magnet. On a Rolex, scratches give it character. On a Royal Oak it gives pain. The bezel dings fairly easily and the bracelet is a scratch magnet. Refinishing is a nerve-racking process. One can only refinish the bezel a few times before it loses the continuity. I have worn my 4500 V now for two years. I frequently wear it off the bracelet and on the rubber. I have the blue rubber as well as the black and the brown, as well as the blue crocodile strap. The ability to switch makes this a potentially single watch collection for all occasions. The water resistance and antimagnetic characters of the VC are far superior than the Royal Oak. The VC water resistance exceeds the Rolex standard oyster perpetual. For me, the choice is easy. The VC overseas is a much better day today watch which has the ability to be used as a sports watch. I know, because that’s the way I use it. There are circumstances in which I don’t feel like potentially beating up my $20,000 watch and for that I have a tutor Pelagos in titanium. But the VC overseas almost never comes off my wrist. It does not seem to stop from the same scratch magnet issues that I had with my Royal Oaks. Furthermore, because I can place it on the rubber, and frequently do, and even further helps to preserve the fine finish of the bracelet. I have spent silly amounts of money on watches over my lifetime. Through that, I am drawn certain conclusions to work for me. I don’t need an excess of complications (and I have tried almost all of them) I want a high horology watch on a bracelet (live in a humid climate) that I can wear every day. AP is a sporty watch. The Overseas is a sports watch that you can easily wear on elegant rubber or alligator. And looks like it belongs there in any variation. Aesthetic’s are debatable and while I very much like the Royal Oak, the VC has a less aggressive posture and I believe is more flexible for multiple uses. The clear winner for me is the overseas. Ymmv

It's weird that the Overseas does not that look fabulously good when it's alone, but when you put it together with some hottest pieces out there, it never lose.

My pick would be VC, no question.

The Vacheron Overseas IMO is much more appealing. The Maltese Cross tied to the dial, bezel, band and clasp are fantastic. The esthetic simplicity of this watch is very attractive. The versatility of being able to change bands instantly expands the watch wear-ability. One last point, the price of the Vacheron is approximately 1/2 of the AP yet we are comparing them as equals. So what would justify this crazy price differential? Nothing....quality, beauty, versatility and a better price point make the VC a winner all day.

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At current market prices, VC Overseas wins all day. However, it’s definitely not half the price of a 41mm Royal Oak. Current market price for blue dial Overseas is USD 18-19k on average. It’s still great value compared to the hyped up Nautilus, Aquanaut and Royal Oak

You're the most underrated watch review specialist on the internet! Thank you for everything!

Nobody else talks about the date change. Outstanding feature of your reviews along with the macros

I have to say the whole heritage, holy trinity, horology art talk when it comes to wrist watches makes me physically cringe but still your videos are very good and you deserve more subscribers. Usually reviewers don't mention the lack of hacking, quick date settings etc because it supposedly "doesn't matter"when the watch costs so much.

I like the VC overseas for my right wrist, and the AP for my left

Having owned multiple versions of each over the years, VC is still on top. The fact that it doesn’t scratch by merely looking at it helps 👀

I like how you expose hidden weaknesses of these watches no one dare look down up on. good information for those in the market.

The blue Overseas wins for me, any day. Why? It's simply more beautiful visually. The blue dial is absolutely stunning, and certainly more striking than the AP, especially in different lighting conditions, going from a navy blue to electric turquoise blue. I find the shape more interesting, too, especially the bezel. Your two complaints about the VC (non-hacking seconds and gradual date change) seem insignificant. First, hacking on a mechanical watch is way over-rated. The best mechanicals in the world lose/gain a second or two a day, so hacking precision is lost virtually immediately. The function of a date change is way, way down on my list of important features. It's virtually all about looks, fit and finish, and the VC is superior, IMHO. Great review and debate! Love the videos.

Excellent video! Do GP Laureato vs VC Overseas next please. Your last sentence suggests that you might recommend the Laureato in that comparison, so curious to see upon a close inspection. Between these two, I agree the Royal Oak seems the better choice in a vacuum unless you want to have strap choices in your watches. I think the VC Overseas makes a better “one watch” collection with its better water resistance and strap changes.

I personally never seen anybody wear an overseas. I consider the AP the rich man’s watch, but there is a lot of people (not everyone) who wear AP that can’t have a conversation about watches they just buy it for the hype, whereas if I see somebody wearing A VC he is probably the most interesting guy in the room and he knows a thing or two about watches and can talk for hours, not just following the hype train.

I own both and find myself wearing the over seas more.... part of it is that I am beyond enamored by the movement and the legendary Geneva seal on both the case and the movement.

Absolutely stunning video, made from a true fan. I couldn't look away, those are some gorgeous shots. Thank you VERY much for this content!

The VCO black was my choice hands down. I liked everything about it more than an RO and the fact that it was discounted below msrp made it a no brainer as well.

Hi Hafiz. Great Video and a great comparison I got my VC yesterday, and I must say, the blue Dial by Daylight looks stunning. And also the removable and adjustment Bracelet is a great advantage for the VC. Sorry for my bad englisch and greetings from Germany.

Interesting comparison. Keep up the good work. Regards.

Ultimately, it's about whether a watch "sings" to you. Amen to that!!

My brain says VC but my heart says AP. Both lovely pieces. Thanks for sharing this well thought out review.

I always look forward to Hafiz videos and never disappoints. He has great taste watches and wish I can ask few Q/A since I am not familiar with AP/Patek models. He is underrated compare others youtubers.

I feel I never saw Royal Oak like this ever before...just love your presentation 😍.

Even with poor date window design, date change mechanism and no hacking movement I still prefer VC Overseas over AP RO.

You always do great videos. Neither of these watches speak to me at all. The more you teach and show, the more certain I am. Keep up the good work!

The VC date window is meant to balance the 9 o'clock marker and blend in with symmetry at a glance yet be there should you choose to look closer.

I absolutely LOVE your review of these watches! Great details mentioned, and you give precise information about all the small details that matter. Great video! Absolutely wonderful! Thank you!

I went with the blue dial VC, no question. As nice as the Royal Oak is, the location of the date kills it for me. Having the date window not located on the outside of the dial instantly tells me the size of the movement is not sufficient to 'fill' the case. In other words, the movement was not made for that case size but it was used anyway. At this level, I'm not a big fan of cutting corners like this.

You’ve given me a renewed appreciation for the magnificent Royal Oak and have me questioning the price difference between the Oversees and the Datejust.

Cheers Hafiz! Stunning clip as usual. Great mention of the GP as well. Now, about these two... The edge goes to AP as its the original Genta creation and it's just so iconic for the Swiss industry. I'm more of a fan of VC overall, but not here in this comparison. The AP's crystal, hacking, that dial and bracelet... wow. Stay healthy my friend!

The overseas perpetual is just incredible. The steel and white gold with blue face and the rose gold with blue face are just my grails. The white face isn't to shabby either.

Always look forward to your posts. Some of the very best, most intelligent watch content on KZfaq!

Beautiful filming and excellent production - thanks for taking the time!!

The VC is stunning af! My pick of the two

Looks wise i like the VC more (not a Genta fan and dont understand the hype having designed one/and maybe two good designs while having "meh" with the rest ) . In the sport watch segment robust movement is a must . Both AP and VC with their earlier iterations were delicate and would see serving often (not sure about APs new movement and VCs third gen though) . The no hacking of the VC is not a problem as most people really dont really adjust to the second .......... especially that they lose seconds per day/week anyway ( there is also a hack with the no hacking but VC said by doing this hack will not harm the movement , but best to leave it as is). AP looks like it has better finishing than the VC (but i think this is more because of the natural design of the watch ), and i agree with the more uniformed brushing in the AP. The water resistance is also a must and at least having 100m which also reflects on long term water resistance . In all i have future plans with the VC but its movement durability (including the AP, and PP Nautilus ) makes me hesitate. In the end of the day with the price of these watches they personally have to be almost perfect with all aspects of a sport watch. Great vid and insight.

Yeah the VC no hacking and the window is annoying... at that price range. Only good thing is the changeable bands.

AP is the winner for me, beautiful and elegant.

Great video as always sir 👍I prefer the VC, but this was the choice that I made first. Would like a RO for the collection and sure shall pick one up. I prefer the brushing on the VC. I saw your Overseas video before I got my Overseas and after that video I could not unsee the big white date window so went for the dual time with the date dial instead!

My wife wears a Special Edition (118) AP Royal Oak Offshore Diver in Tangerine, White Gold and Stainless Steel, and I wear a Limited Edition (255) AP Royal Oak Offshore QEII Cup in Forged Carbon and Rose Gold and we love them both so much ....

To correct a couple of things, the overseas does not cost half the price of a Royal Oak. Their retail price points are actually very similar. At the moment, there is a craze for certain steel luxury watches and their resale price can be ridiculous. AP is been milking the Royal Oak long time. It is 80% of their watch production. I can’t say that I blame them. Those of us who have been collecting for a long time see there are an unlimited number of limited editions of the Royal Oak. It’s almost like Rolex and red print on the dial. Write submariner in Red and the watch triples in value to collectors. I disagree with the idea that the overseas is delicate. It is shock resistant, highly water resistant and highly anti-magnetic and built in the steel case. It is truly a sports watch. The Nautilis, which is a watch that I dislike aesthetically even when you could purchase them for 20% below retail, is a sports watch. The Royal Oak is a sporty watch. Where do you want to beat the hell out of one of these Trinity watchers at their price point is of course a totally different discussion. I know somebody who has a PP perpetual calendar chronograph that he wears in the pool. Even I think that’s nuts. But I have no problem going in the pool shower or ocean with the VC. It’s built for that.

Regarding the VC Overseas: A missing stop-second and a crawling date is an absolute no-go for a watch with the "Poinçon de Genève" and a price of almost 20,000 euros. Regarding the AP Royal Oak: The 15202 as a sports watch is not water resistant over 50 meters. In 2020 it should be technically possible to resolve such a weak spot. By the way: Never understood why the 15300, 15400 and 15500 were released by AP when there is still the sensational 15202. In principle, these are all 15202s with larger case sizes, worse proportions and boring movements. Instead they should produce more 15202. Just my 2 cents.

Hafiz, love the production values of your content, how did you not notice that the VC has curved links and the AP does not? Given this vital technical difference, VC has done a far better job than AP.

Please appreciate the seconds hand syncing at 3:19

Nice comparison video... waiting for your 15500 vs overseas comperison.

Great review, well done! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Thanks for this very informative video - especially the detailed on-the-wrist comparison.

Fantastic review and very hard choice indeed. I have to say on your wrist, at the end of the video the VC looked better than the RO. Don't get me wrong, the RO looked good but the VC was more special and looked awesome. Keep up the good work

Love your video. Great filming, subscribed!

Having owned both (white RO and blue OS) there is something off in the OS that in the end I had to flip it. May be gen 4 can fix some of these issues

AP is always my choice, the best bracelet in the watches industry.

AP and it's not even close. (I have handled both and own a 15500ST). Keep up the good work Hafiz

Another awesome video, Hafiz, thank you. Started out saying VC Overseas all the way, but now I'm not so sure. Can't afford either one, but it's nice to dream, yes? Thanks again for the effort you put in.

Seriously high horology is so much more than the holy Trinity. Breguet, Antoine Preziuso, Blancpain, FP Journe,Girard Perregaux, Piaget or Jaeger LeCoultre to name but a few. The holy Trinity each provide a couple safe bets and not much beyond that. I suspect most owners of a time piece from the HT barely understand the fundamentals of the mechanical watch on their wrist. Anybody can be a connoisseur of aesthetic’s but who knows how the dials are fashioned and what is the practical benefit of bevelling on the watch’s movement a.k.a. anglagè? Owning and being knowledgeable do not bear the same fruits.

Another great video. Have you thought about doing videos on other brands such as IWC, Ulysse Nardin, etc? In my collection, I have the IWC Portuguese 7 day automatic and also a UN limited edition dual time gmt. Both are really beautiful watches. Also, as mentioned in a previous video, would love to see a comparison between the DJ41 and AP Royal Oak.

First of all thank you for another outstanding video! For me personally the AP Royal Oak ticks more boxes, mostly because of its iconic look and the high-end bracelet. Be safe and please continue to provide us with more of your excellent content!

The AP is more popular for a reason, it really does stand out. Also the AP just wins on every technical level

Great video as always Hafiz. So hard to pick between these two, but I think the royal oak wins for me. Ramadan Mubarak!

Fantastic detailed review! Really a pity about no ar coating on the overseas and you’re right about certain disappointments on the watch for the price point.

Great video and content as always Hafiz! Many thanks! Both watches are great and the AP has more history behind it. Yet it is hard to find from an AD and it looks more industrial and somewhat dated. The VC looks more of a gentleman’s watch as it is more refined especially in relation to the bracelet. I have not tried either on my wrist and my views might change but I think the VC does it more for me.

Incredible video as always, informative and honest, with best close-ups. Keep the great work!

Funny, when you paid such fortune for a Royal Oak, no hardening coating is provided. In the mean while, some micro brands and seiko or even citizen have such coating with 1/100 of Royal Oak price.

Excellent video my brother..very keen

the lack of taper on the overseas bracelet ruins it for me, the profile on the royal oak is much more refined imo

Perfect comparison and review.

Girard-Perregaux Laureato... launched in 1975. 1 year before the Nautilus. 2 years before the 222. Beautiful watch. I am a fan of AP as well. But I also have fallen in love with the Laureato.

Good video, subscribed! 👍

The more I wear the VC the more I like it. It’s beautiful! I never use it for time tho. I always look at my phone…

Great review with some very valid points. I forgive everything but not that horrendous VC date font. I would appreciate a similar video comparing Rolex to Zenith to shutter the illusion that Rolex is "the best" of the mid tier watches.

Good video! Great review and I think the GP Laureato is underrated. A comparison video between the AP RO and the GP Laureato (chrono) will make a great review 👍

Top quality vdo! Really enjoyed it. Love your content. My choice would be the AP!

2 great watches, I'm a big VC fan, but have to say I would take the Oak. I think the 3rd generation Overseas, just lacks something. 2nd generation was a much better looking watch and more in keeping with the 1st generation. I believe the problem is the bezel, it just doesn't jump out the way it should, after all it is its main feature. The bezel on the Oak screams out from across the room, and you know instantly its a Royal Oak. You would have to look pretty close to know you were looking at an Overseas. The 2nd gen had that instant recognition from across the room. I would suggest that if you took the same models from 2015, it might be a much harder decision. Ive got a good idea, buy a preowned duel time overseas, and with the money you save, you can buy a Rolex Submariner

Really appreciate your videos !

Awesome comparison. I do think that both watches have their positives and negatives, or at least in my eye. I do prefer the Royal Oak more than the Overseas overall, but I don't like the bling and shine of the Royal Oak bracelet and case. I don't know why, but VC does little to nothing, and that movement with the stop-seconds, and slow date movement is just unacceptable in my opinion.

Man, this is another epic video - the quality is amazing, and your commentary is very insightful and fact-based. Loved it. I totally agree with your final choice and as I own both AP 15202 and Vacheron Overseas Chrono (2 gen), I think of AP as a much higher end product, but VC is probably the best bang for your buck for an everyday luxury watch expirience.

Swiss Watch Box Australia, I guess you are in Perth Australia. Like your channel. Best watch presentation on Proportion and Aesthetic

Hi Hafiz. You should mention. The Warranty by VC is 8 years.

I think the interchangeable straps for the VC takes the edge, in terms of versatility. If you want just one watch, that can fit many occasions, being able to change between rubber, leather and steel can make you go from informal to formal

AMazing vid Hafiz! Two steel stunners

Love the Audemars! But if you want the best blue on the market, I would recommend looking at the Chopard Alpine Eagle. That blue is STUNNING!

The Vacheron is more versatile than the RO, but the RO is the better finished watch with the better design pedigree. As the RO Blue dial is unobtainable at retail, the question is, is the RO superior enough to the VC to be worth spending twice the amount?

APs to me feel special on the wrist, whereas the Overseas does not. To each his own.

Hi I’m struggling between 41mm and 37mm overseas so badly and my wrist is around 16cm, maybe you can help me??

Wonderful expose as usual, both wonderful pieces, 1 on 1 R.O.vs. Overseas , they both have equal positives, size & cost , mech./ bracelet, wrist fit, it comes down to the buyer preference . P.S. Tx.

I like the 15400 more than the 15500, personally. Another wonderful video, Hafiz!

Dear sir vc seems to have cross logo related to a certain religion. Your thoughts plz?

Beautifully done. Thanks for sharing. These are both stunning pieces to say the very least.

Tried them both on, and almost pulled the trigger on the VC (black dial). Both excellent, but VC for me. Just ...

Enjoyed your video as always! As an owner of a same Overseas watch in the review (mine is black dial), I found your pros and cons analysis spot on. Perhaps a more interesting question is, given a $35K budget to spend, which watch one would get. I would still go for the Overseas and use the remaining money to get another watch, perhaps a dual-tone Rolex Sky-Dweller! The lack of hacking doesn't bother me much because all watches will go out of sync as daily errors add up. After all, most of the Patek watches don't hack either. Look forward to your next video :)

The VC Overseas is on a different level. Imagine if they fashioned that piece out of iridium. That would be something. The cost would be eye watering.

Your videos are by far second to none, keep up the great work!

This is the vs that I weighted over and over for last few years. But at the end it’s like an eagerly awaited champions league final between two titans but one completely outplayed another. There is only one luxury steel watch and it’s the RO. And I chose at the end the 37mm white dial.

awesome review, two thumbs up!

For me VC Overseas is better, prettier and more discreet. Only PP Nautilus is better.

Oh good detail comparison. Already have the RO. Saving for either Offshore or Overseas. No hacking in Overseas is shocking. Should I stick to AP. Though the Ocerseas versatility is appealing.

I have a overseas DT & I want to say that the overseas looks way better than a RO or a Nautilus on the wrist . The rubber band and the easy-swap system is the greatest thing in recent sport watch history. Besides, the overseas is water proof & anti-magnetic. A far more versatile watch designed for all-around use. If I have the chance of buying a RO at retail, I'll certainly go for it, flip it for an extra $10k cash so I can put into my VCO like I'm getting a 50% off. Sweet!

Yeah! That date window and hacking second killed it...! Now I know given the extra straps, price , I’m still Overseas-less...! Thanks!

Hafiz your analysis is spot on once again my friend bravo👏👏keep up the good work

Great video. Truly thankful for all the information.

The AP aleays reminds me of the room in the Saw movie where the hostages are imprisoned, lots of metal plumbing and ugly tiles