Russia's Old Believers preserve traditional ways of worship

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(23 Jul 2017) LEADIN:
Russian Old Believers, descendants of dissident Christians who split from the Russian Orthodox Church in the 17th century, are preserving their traditions which date back to medieval times.
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The bells call the faithful to church.
This is no an ordinary Sunday service, these are Russia's Old Believers, sometimes also called 'Old Ritualists' who have come to Malinovsky skete (monastery) from all over the region to attend worship.
The Old Believers sect, which rejects many trappings of modern life, split from the Russian Orthodox Church in the 17th century in protest at a number of reforms to Russian Orthodoxy.
Many of the changes were minor - the number of fingers used in the sign of the cross, the spelling of Jesus' name, how many times "hallelujah" was said in prayer - but the Old Believers considered any change heretical and refused to go along.
Father Alexander, rector of the Malinovsky skete, says Russia was being infused with Western values, which Old Believers rejected.
"The separation of the church began in Russia. It was because they wanted to distance the country from the beliefs of their ancestors. The religion that was in Russia started to be uncomfortable for some, most likely, for Western Europe. Tsar Alexei Mikhailovich was raised under Western education and had Western teachers," says Father Alexander.
Today there are estimated 1 to 2 million living Old Believers in Russia.
The Russian Orthodox Church excommunicated them and the czars persecuted them. Many left Russia or moved to the Siberian taiga (forest) where they could pass the old rites down to their children in peace.
But the Russian revolution forced many remaining Old Believers out for good when the Soviets tried to squash their religion and collective farms threatened their livelihood.
Father Alexander says Russian Orthodox Church and Old Believers have tolerable, but not yet friendly relations, because the pain of wrongdoings are still fresh in the memory of Old Believers.
"They came and made a mess in our place, our house and then they themselves forgave us for that. Well, now our relations (with Russian Orthodox church) are not bad, they are tolerable," says Father Alexander.
Even though Malinovsky skete is hard to reach, people still come here from all over Nizny Novgorod region every weekend.
On a busy Sunday there would be dozens praying, but during weekdays the service would be attended by only one or two believers, as the skete is far from big cities.
Mother Tatyana, an Old Believer nun, needs help getting to the church due to her old age, but she is a strong believer and would not miss a Sunday service.
Tatyana still keeps up with all the ancient traditions, and carries her prayer beads with her wherever she goes.
"These prayer beads, this is a weapon against dark forces, against the devil. All monks walk with these in their possession. You pray with it during the service, at the dining table. Wherever you are it always has to be in your hands," explains Mother Tatyana.
Father Alexander demonstrates the unique way which Old Believers make the sign of the cross, using two fingers, whilst Russian Orthodox faithful use three.
But not everyone is so lucky to have the health to travel so far to receive the blessing of an Old Believer priest.
For this reason, Father Alexander takes a few hours after the service to visit those elderly members of the congregation who cannot make the long journey.
Elderly parishioner Evgeniya greets him with a traditional song.
The life at the skete is simple - gardening, praying and taking care of church's territory.
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@DKjellby
@DKjellby 9 ай бұрын
Respect to the Old Believers from a Serbian Orthodox Swedish-Serb! 🇸🇪🇷🇸☦🇷🇺
@lisaconnor4948
@lisaconnor4948 2 жыл бұрын
I admire the Russian Old Believers. 🕯♥️📿
@jaynareynolds3684
@jaynareynolds3684 7 ай бұрын
God bless and keep the Old Believers!
@legostory33
@legostory33 4 ай бұрын
I think it’s important to note for those who are Eastern Orthodox, this is a schismatic group. The way we worship isn’t magic, we can’t force God to dwell with us by any means. This view of the “old ritualists” is a heretical view, that the Spirit only dwells through these precise means. Rather the Holy Spirit dwells within the church at large and is present in her liturgies around the world. It’s not the ritual that does it, it’s being part of the body of Christ, it’s being in communion.
@yuypergollece6187
@yuypergollece6187 Ай бұрын
Sorry I am learning about Orthodoxy, but I want to ask. So in 1971 Moscow Patriarchate revoked the anathemas and also issued an ukase asking for forgiveness. But most have not returned to full communion. For those that have returned to full communion, what do you say about that?
@legostory33
@legostory33 Ай бұрын
@@yuypergollece6187 Anyone can repent and be received back into the church. Im not sure how they decided to handle this case but usually people outside the faith in this manner are entered in through chrismation, which is a mystery of the church. Being in communion also means that your priest/bishop/ and metropolitan are canonical. For these old rite churches this is not the case. I'd say if you attend an eastern orthodox parish you're part of the body of Christ :)
@matthew4712
@matthew4712 Жыл бұрын
Reading about the schisms within schisms within schisms is enough to drive a man insane.
@tsatziq
@tsatziq Жыл бұрын
I really hope someday ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue can bring us all at least a litte closer to each other 🙁
@georgedheeraj
@georgedheeraj Жыл бұрын
A rabbit hole indeed
@Carolus-Rex
@Carolus-Rex Жыл бұрын
You broke away from Orthodoxy like them, there's noting confusing
@matthew4712
@matthew4712 Жыл бұрын
@@Carolus-Rex The Roman Catholic Church maintains and defends orthodoxy.
@Carolus-Rex
@Carolus-Rex Жыл бұрын
@@matthew4712 "Maintains and defend orthodoxy" Meanings Adding filioque and unbliblical teachings?
@kiranWary-ix7nr
@kiranWary-ix7nr Ай бұрын
I love all catholic, orthodox etc☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
@jgray852
@jgray852 4 ай бұрын
I saw old rite believers (women) that wear their headscarf quite far back on their head however I can’t find anything in literature about it and nothing online. Does anyone have any sources?
@Tube-oq9wb
@Tube-oq9wb 3 жыл бұрын
Im Ethiopian i love Russian people and oritodox coz im oritodox i hope vista Russia
@mariorizkallah5383
@mariorizkallah5383 10 ай бұрын
Ethiopians are not Orthodox! They are in schism and hold to monophysite theology.
@E.C.2
@E.C.2 9 ай бұрын
Any links to comparison of Old Believers & Russian Orthodox liturgy + Sacraments,side by side?
@gwentong9715
@gwentong9715 Жыл бұрын
🤗😻🐕🙏 Jesus lives on through our love
@gwentong9715
@gwentong9715 Жыл бұрын
I value our precious jewels as we pray for wisdom in looking after them. 🤗😻🙏💐
@chetnik19
@chetnik19 11 ай бұрын
@xyz30003 huh? burqa? 🤣 clearly this is not a burqa its a simple way of these Christian Women Veiling and us Christians have been doing it way longer than you muslims 😂🤣
@alix4698
@alix4698 11 ай бұрын
@@chetnik19you are wrong Adam was and he's our first prophet and he pbuh was messenger of Allah and islam was born with Adam and evey rituals prayers practices came from Allah through Adam
@chetnik19
@chetnik19 11 ай бұрын
@@alix4698 blah blah blah nothing but straight blabbering 🤣 shut up muzzie
@chetnik19
@chetnik19 8 ай бұрын
@@083wildanajiwisnugroho7 your point?
@francoisegregyi9527
@francoisegregyi9527 4 жыл бұрын
Do they have Old Believer bishops?
@Justinian506
@Justinian506 4 жыл бұрын
Some old believer churches have bishops
@E.C.2
@E.C.2 9 ай бұрын
I was under the impression Russian Old Believers went without Priests Bishops for so long,they felt Clerics we're not necessary after 1980's.
@arbabimran388
@arbabimran388 Жыл бұрын
I am Sunni Muslim May I say to all Orthodox Christians even Muslims in Muslims world don't know if.they see that video I am stunned that we are one as are our lord God is ALLAH All true Msulims wearing clothing,covering g heads ,in hand Tazbi ,for doing zikr,ie on doing Praising ALLAH names Those are the people in which Qur'an directed us that in love and affection will nearer to you I love Orthodox Christians May ALLAH bless them
@AwedJR
@AwedJR 7 ай бұрын
Islam and probhet Muhammad were sent to all world!
@kiranWary-ix7nr
@kiranWary-ix7nr Ай бұрын
Christian older than Muslim religion boy .... Hallelujah
@kiranWary-ix7nr
@kiranWary-ix7nr Ай бұрын
Orthodox Christian may be same with your religion but they worship same God Jesus Christ
@kiranWary-ix7nr
@kiranWary-ix7nr Ай бұрын
☦️☦️☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
@achilinacaprian1998
@achilinacaprian1998 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@jovanstankovik5745
@jovanstankovik5745 7 ай бұрын
Aliluja
@kiranWary-ix7nr
@kiranWary-ix7nr Ай бұрын
I blame to all Christian believers don't bring violence among the orthodox, catholic, protestend, etc. we are only beleive one God , don't bring their colours, wearing system is different but it's one ... My heart has broken 💔💔 Jesus Christ is king 👑👑👑☦️☦️✝️✝️✝️
@fitzgeraldmistral97
@fitzgeraldmistral97 7 жыл бұрын
Will Putin ban them too?
@dudeman4252
@dudeman4252 3 жыл бұрын
no, putin is also orthodox
@lonewanderer1776
@lonewanderer1776 Жыл бұрын
No, They already got massacred under communism! Putin basically encouraged them to come back to Russia! They live a off grid life like they did before the red terror!
@TaiganTundra
@TaiganTundra Жыл бұрын
@@dudeman4252 Putin is a lying Jew.
@negy2570
@negy2570 Жыл бұрын
@@dudeman4252 He's not an Old Believer. Watch Agafia Lykova's story. These people and others were persecuted by all Russian governments since the schism. They are not a whole church anyway, they have a lot of branches that don't agree with each other. And yet they are Russian enough to blame their condition on the "west" 😅
@jaynareynolds3684
@jaynareynolds3684 7 ай бұрын
Putin has issued special visas to allow the Old Believers, who were exiled 75 years ago by the communists, to return to Russia. Since 2018 many have returned and they're settling in Primorsky Krai.
@user-su3hm7yq6y
@user-su3hm7yq6y 7 ай бұрын
Not in Oregon and Alaska. They are doing services in English because the parents are to lazy to teach the kids anymore! The old believer tradition in America are suffering and people dislike the bishop and don't listen to him!
@petropetrika9542
@petropetrika9542 7 ай бұрын
Fanatics
@justplzme
@justplzme 3 жыл бұрын
They look like muslims. Men with beard, women wear veil and fully cloth. There are no chairs in their church. Why can't I see these in most of our churches today?
@bimabaguspambudhi1835
@bimabaguspambudhi1835 3 жыл бұрын
alislam.org/jesus
@viniciussantos7314
@viniciussantos7314 3 жыл бұрын
No, muslims look like them. In fact, that's the ancient Christian tradition, even here, in west. But unfortunately, we, lazy Roman Catholics and Protestants, have discarded the Holy Traditions.
@faanengaaw7357
@faanengaaw7357 3 жыл бұрын
Thats why they are called the old believers. They still hold the old believes.
@justplzme
@justplzme 3 жыл бұрын
@@faanengaaw7357 So you meant Christians and Muslims came with the same messages and basic laws but Christians changed them???
@justplzme
@justplzme 3 жыл бұрын
@@viniciussantos7314 So.... Muslims preserve old belief but Christians changed it?
@derrickrivers3535
@derrickrivers3535 7 жыл бұрын
pictures of Christ and the disciples on the wall they are black.
@nikola8363
@nikola8363 7 жыл бұрын
Derrick Rivers WE
@kyriljordanov2086
@kyriljordanov2086 6 жыл бұрын
Derrick Rivers From years of candle and insense smoke.
@LaFranceBonjour
@LaFranceBonjour 5 жыл бұрын
Brown skin doesn't mean black, There are not only 2 races that exist. Blacks dont have naturally straight hair anyways
@rodricksteal1729
@rodricksteal1729 4 жыл бұрын
Christ wasn't white
@ginesiito9009
@ginesiito9009 3 жыл бұрын
@@rodricksteal1729 White and Caucasian are different things... Christ is WHITE 😍🙏🏻
@realityofthissatanicworld5302
@realityofthissatanicworld5302 4 жыл бұрын
There is no God but Almighty Allah and Muhammad PBUH is His last prophet and Jesus PBUH is not God neither died and Crusified!
@empereurjustinien2082
@empereurjustinien2082 4 жыл бұрын
Why do you need to bring this here? Get lost
@karduspakle4475
@karduspakle4475 4 жыл бұрын
@shaz aisha was grow up when 9 years .. And Mohammmad is the true prophet and absolutely not pedophile.. .. Like your imagination ...
@danielsalinas6683
@danielsalinas6683 4 жыл бұрын
@@karduspakle4475 Mohammed was a prophet of the devil. Hes the forerunner of the antichrist.
@ginesiito9009
@ginesiito9009 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck mohammad 🤮
@TheLatiosnlatias02
@TheLatiosnlatias02 3 жыл бұрын
@Doge di Amalfi Your lies about Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) will earn you a roasted skin while bitten by scorpions in Hell.
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