Thank you 🙏 😊

Thank you 🙏

Thank you!! 🙏 😊

Thank you! 🙏 😊 Will you be grabbing a Duet 3?

Thanks for watching! I think the preamps are nice! I'm gonna have to spend some time trying different mics on them and saying how they stand up, got any beats lol?

@@iPadBeatMaking what mic do you use in that video, will be excited if you answered *)

Thanks for the great question! The mic used was a Manley Gold

Thanks 🙏 Ya it’s very unfortunate as that was biggest thing I was hoping for after seeing 2 usb-c ports on it. When u try it on your iPad, can u check out different sample rates in a iOS DAW and see how it monitors/records inputs at like 96k? Does everything work fine in your headphones when u do?

@@iPadBeatMaking yep I’m hoping to get an adaptor soon and give it a shot

@@iPadBeatMaking Ok so I'm sure you will find this very useful info. So I have a lightning bolt iPad, I think 2020 model. According to the manual you need the apple usb 3 to lightning bolt camera kit adapter. It just mentions plugging it into that and doesn't show using external power. So I got the adapter today and tried it out. Epic fail! LOL It didn't power on. So I figured plugin the iPad power supply to the adapter as it mentions you need to do for some interfaces. It powered on and connected for a moment. As soon as I played audio through it, it crackled and powered off. I contacted support and they mentioned and referred to an article that mentions you needing a powered hub to power the duet 3 via usb-c and then connect that to the camera kit adapter, and then to your lightning bolt device. Little bummed about that. I believe they mentioned that an iPad Pro will power the duet 3 without the external power supply since usb-c is enough to power it standalone. Of course they have major updates for iOS with the software they are working on and may solve the power distribution issues in the future.

Ya the only apogee device I can recommend for iOS is Symphony Desktop. Will you be grabbing the new UA interface?

Night and day? No, not at all. And the duet 2 actually has more preamp gain I believe, which is great for pushing a dynamic

Thanks for checking out the video bro, and your support! Are you in the market for an interface?

@@iPadBeatMaking i wish lol but i do plan to pick up a new 11” ipad pro & im thinking a irig keys 2 aswell since they have the headphone port built in have you ever tried it?

Which iPad are you on currently?

@@iPadBeatMaking i have the 12.9 with 64gigs 2018 version i need more memory lol

You going M1 or Air? Air is on sale like $100 off right now, but that’s the 64 which does u no good

Hey what did you end up going with, one year later? I'm in that same looking around for the current best value best sound thing. I have an SSL2 and its a bit "eh"

@TheSponky I returned the duet and now use a bunch of interfaces from the symphony desktop, to Audient id14mk2, to the Rodecaster and Centrance Mixerface. Depending on my location and task that day they all have specific applications they do well.

We sent Ours back. If you want apogee go symphony desktop, it’s great, otherwise there so many ‘good enough’ interfaces in the sub $500 range

I just discovered your channel and thx for the variety and honesty! SO what would you go with in the $300-$600 range in 2023, and is Symphony worth a double price? I have a 20% off I can use at Apogee, too. @@iPadBeatMaking

@TheSponky welcome to the channel! In the 300-600 I’ve really been enjoying the utility of the Rodecaster. But the Audient id14mk 2 I found is surprisingly good for the price, as long as u aren’t trying to drive dynamics that require a lot of gain (such as the SM7b etc). In terms of the symphony being ‘worth it’ I’d say it is, especially at 20% off. It’s a really great interface, assuming you’ve got the other elements in place such as enviroment, mics, monitoring etc

Hey there! Unfortunately I have no idea as I’ve been using it on iOS, and I think I’m gonna have to send it back

I agree that no MIDI through usb is a BIG bummer. Especially since it’s a bus powered device. Seems like they really didn’t think it through.

YES!! Totally wasteful of a perfectly good usb port, hopefully they'll change that in an update. Are you going to be using the D/A for speakers or headphones mostly?​ If you aren't 'mixing' with the D/A I don't know if it's worth paying the premium over a budget interface, you know? If you do grab it, i'd like your thoughts on how it compares to the symphony desktop!

@@Payan8 Agreed. Maybe they're worried about the possibility of 'powering' the usb-midi device on the same bus and it messing with the Duet's workflow. Hopefully they can do a software update to change it

@@iPadBeatMaking how would you compare the duet 3 vs 2 for vocal recordings ? Is the sound quality close or a big step up ?

I’d say close. It’s not way different and I believe duet 2 has more preamp gain by 10 db

I feel the same but what about the low mic input. Are you using a cloud lifter.

If you want DSP I would recommend the Apogee Symphony Desktop, Antelope, or the UAD stuff. If u don’t mind not having DSP I really think the Audient idmk2 line is pretty incredible for the price. Sounds similar to the duet 3 to my ears

I hate to bring you bad news, but in my opinion, the Duet 3 definitely has that ‘Apogee sound’. Personally, I’ve always liked it, and how my mixes translated, but I can understand it isn’t for everyone. Are you on the audient mk1 or 2? Are the preamps on the audient not to good?

@@iPadBeatMaking oh Damn! Maybe I could try it again and see , maybe just gotta get used to it, and I have the old Audient and new Audient , the old one sounds sorta like a vintage pre and the new one well sounds more clear for sure , and I honestly am not a fan of them , to me they sound like a toy for little kids ( not sure if that’s a great way to explain it lol ) they are to upfront sounding, bright and not natural, also they give a weird sounding sibilance that is annoying I have found

Sorry to hear that!!! No they absolutely do NOT sound the same. The Duet 3 kind of reminds me of the Audient id14 mk2 which is a really good interface for the price ($300) but it makes the duet seem ultra overpriced. The symphony desktop is bigger in every way! Preamps are much better (IMO) and I don’t even need to use outboard preamps with it! Things are more 3D overall and for the money…I’d spring for the apogee symphony desktop every time. It’s good deal for the price. On a budget I’d do an Audient, it’s actually really really good for the price.

Good question, I haven’t used it with FL studio so Id recommend reaching out to apogee directly and asking them.

The DSP plugin for Duet 3, ECS Channel Strip, can be used on the analog inputs. All of our plugins are very CPU friendly and can be used in any DAW :)

Thank you 🙏 Will you be grabbing a duet 3?

@@iPadBeatMaking i was thinking of switching from an apollo twin x to the duet 3

Nice! In my humble opinion, it Might be a better jump (if possible) to go to a symphony desktop, that way u get some dsp (not uad of course) and the higher sound quality. I don’t know how much ‘better’ the duet 3 would be from that interface. Plus you’ve got uad dsp plugins on it, which I’m sure are great. The duet 3 is bus powered though, so if u want that portability, it might be it

If you’re using computer, the apogee element 24, 46, or 88 would be a better move for the price! The element was a very special interface, and it even has some DSP to host apogee plugins!

@@iPadBeatMaking Apogee element series has been discontinued by Apogee. Soon there won't be any support or future updates.

Tragedy

@@iPadBeatMaking I am just seeing this comment now, I bought the duet 3 which costed me $23 since I was able to sell my UAD CAD$700 and negotiate a Black Friday pre price to the retailer and he said yes so the Apogee at the end costed me $723 tax in. Pretty good move and producing with it, its very smooth, no issues so far

@@ZenMountain That's why I hate Apogee they never support their products! UAD and Apogee are headaches. I would rather spend on a Motu Ultralite MK5, RME Babyface Pro FS and the RME Fireface UCX II

What’s the ‘live streaming option?’

The Duet 2 is a better device in terms of features onboard (flawless iPhone integration, led screen, usb midi port, higher mic preamp gain, etc) and the Duet 3 sounds a bit better.

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What are your needs exactly? Walk me through your setup please. Also, Are you recording vocals, live instruments or mainly doing stuff inside the computer/ipad?

Although you can plug all those in at once, It’s not a 4 input interface. It’s a 2 input interface. You have to toggle the inputs (mic, instrument, line)

@@iPadBeatMaking thanks , what interface do you think is good with 4 inputs , thanks

The new UA volt 476 looks interesting but I haven’t heard it. The Motu M4 is good also. Maybe the Motu Ultramix 6 would be a good move

@@iPadBeatMaking thanks , just watched a video on the UA volt. looks great ,thanks

Are you grabbing one? If not, which interface did you decide on?

Yikes…. Ours got sent back as well… it isn’t ready for primetime at all, doesn’t work at 96k on iOS, and a bit overpriced IMO

I’m sorry to hear that. Did u tell apogee?

Yes that ipad lightning switch to Usb-c issue with Apogee products is unfortunate. Hopefully they can earn back your trust in them at some point in the future. What interface are you using currently?

Glad you found it useful! What do you prefer about the RME?

@@iPadBeatMaking Better Latency, Lifetime Drivers, Jitter Immunity,it’s D/C wall powered for more power and it’s USB powered as well, it also has DSP a compressor, reverb and so on. I could go on and on and on and on and on.

The RME has DSP that works with the iOS?

​@@iPadBeatMaking YES!! It actually does!!! You can use total mix for DSP effects on your iPhone and iPad and all its great!! may be expensive but just get the UCX II and if its too expensive wait for the Motu Ultralite MK5 everybody wants that interface but its out of stock due to the shortage I don't trust Apogee when it comes down to their drivers and all. If I would ever buy an Apogee I would spend on their Symphony line up tbh.

I haven’t tried it on windows but there’s repeatable sample rate issues at 96k on iOS. I’ve gotta send it back

I wouldn’t. But it depends on your circumstances. I’d go for the symphony desktop or Audient id14

@@iPadBeatMaking how's audient id14 will it run long time ?

To be clear I’m referring to Audient id14 Mkii. What do u mean by run a long time?

@@iPadBeatMaking i meant i'll use it for long time i won't change it. one time investment

Ideally it’ll be a while before you outgrow it

Seems likely a customer convenience decision, and to keep the height of the duet 3 small. But the dock gives u 1/4

Just returned a Volt 476, useless on Windows :/ Might be driver/firmware issue.... i now have a Duet 3 coming in... :p Might be the fastest return ever :D

Wow that’s crazy…I’ve also heard duet 3 can have issues with windows too…but maybe they’ve fixed it 🤞

@@iPadBeatMaking Apogee=Apple

Wow. That’s unfortunate. What interface would u recommend?

Overall it sounds similar to the id14 mk2 to me

Thanks for that perspective! Why do you say their stuff doesn’t hold up anymore? What’s been your experience with what piece of equipment?

@@iPadBeatMaking I had a Rosetta 200 and 800 those are great 👍 But the One stop working out of nowhere on IOS I called them they said it was my cable but it worked on my old iPhone . I also have the Element the head phone port just make noise also there late to the game with thunderbolt ports .

What would you have liked to see on the duet 3? What would have made this a winner? Maybe they’ll incorporate your feedback into the duet 4!

@@iPadBeatMaking considering the quality of the apollo twin duos and what you get with it Apogee should have just given the symphony desktop at a price similar to those of the apollo twin duos or X especially since theres a ton used and can be found in the $500-600 range.

@@iPadBeatMaking TBH Apogee should make a new Quartet

Hey what do you think of the apogee duet 2 these days for vocal recording? I used it a while back and really liked it paired with a sm7b… thinking of getting the duet 2 again and play with a sm7b and a baby blue bottle…. Any suggestions for other interfaces these days in the same price range ?

@@EM-km8em I think the Duet 2 would sound fine today. I enjoyed mine and made lots of money with it. The issue is with apogee keeping the drivers current in accordance with current operating systems. In my opinion, they’re having issues with that very thing. Even with this latest Duet, they have serious issues with OS. I personally have had enough of apogee after what they did to the Element series…. I’m done with them.

I wouldn’t buy the Duet 2 again *today* but it’s definitely good enough for vocal recording, no question. It’s just not worth paying so a high price on such an old product. I really like the Motu M4. It is just the best interface for under $300 period. I think you should either stay around that area in price $200-400 or shoot up to $1200-1500 interfaces like the Symphony Desktop where you’re getting that next level.

@@iPadBeatMaking how would you compare the clarette vs the m4 ? And also what differences would i notice on the $1200-500 range of interfaces such as the symphony desktop for vocal recordings only ? Keeping in mind im using a sm7b and baby blue bottle

For my money I’m buying an m4. No knock on the clarette just what I would (and did) do. Better pres on the symphony with a hybrid built in dual plugin emulation right on the interface. I don’t know what differences you’d hear on a dynamic mic such as the sm7b to be honest. I’ve never tried it out in a music setting, only the re20, which is ok but I really dig different condensers where I feel like you really hear the difference due to it capturing more information in the recording over a dynamic. But the sm7b is great, just don’t know what differences you’d hear in the recording. The D/A on a the symphony is also going to be better for your mix phase. Do you need a symphony? No, of course not. Hits were made on much less. And, All these interfaces are great nowadays, you really can’t go wrong. I just think after the $400 level of them for 2 channels on I/O, you’re in no mans land until +$1000 in terms of really hearing a major difference. Hope this helps.

What price do u feel it’s worth?

@@iPadBeatMaking I used to own a Pro Audio Store, I’m glad you asked..... considering the Black Lion Audio is as good or better for $399 retail and $299 B-Stock...The Duet is worth between $350 and $450, with the plugins thrown in...it’s buggy, like all their plugs (and why doesn’t it come with at least 1 plugin???), it’s software dependent, the accessories are wayyyy too pricey. They try to brand themselves similar to Apple but the thing about Apple...is that Apple is actually a GAME Changer and a Paradigm Shifter... What did Apogee change with this....NOTHING, it’s a beautiful design and that’s it, their digital mic pre is good also I’ll give them that but They think that b/c the Babyface is selling at a much higher price that they can adjust the price and charge for the plugs and accessories and still have a product comparable to the BF....But RME wins b/c with the hardware and TotalMixFX (that includes FX and Loopback), and the rock solid drivers RME has carved out something unique for themselves. Their Element series B-Stock was the best thing they ever made at the lower tier and the Apogee Symphony Desktop is a winner also if you can get it close to $1000, simply b/c high end desktop conversion has not really taken shape yet in the market except for Prism Sounds Lyra which sounds amazing. Anyway that’s my take.

@@bigdap100 interesting. When you mentioned that you like the Apogee, Symphony- were you mentioning the first gen? Or talking about the newer desktop version?

@@jesslucio3104 the desktop Symphony is a better option over the first gen Symphony and a really good deal and an innovative concept for Apogee (props to Apogee for that) considering a Prism Lyra 1 is over $2k and has only 1 mic pre and a slower USB connection. And even Apogee’s current flagship offering is not bad considering you can put the old cards in them but what’s better is Prism Sounds Atlas preowned, 2 HP amps and 8 super transparent mic pres and you can get it for less than 3k if you’re patient ( I purchased an Atlas and a Lyra 1 years ago, they actually cost MORE now than they did 5 years ago). The Apogee sounds high end no doubt but The Prism sounds better in my opinion, more life like.

@@bigdap100 is the apollo twin duo mk2 up there with the symphony desktop ?

No duet 3 for u?

@@iPadBeatMaking No, it doesn't worth $600. In a reality where UAD Apollo Solo exist. Apogee Symphony Desktop is more reasonably priced, also there's an Apogee Boom...

Good points!