This was a very well put together presentation. I agree with it 100% as someone who left the church for 18 years and returned many years ago, I testify that this church is true and I will never leave God's truth again🕊💗

If the church was a business or a social club I would have resigned a long time ago. But the church is not man-made. It was not organized by the authority of man but under the authority of God. Local church leaders do make errors in judgment, offend, and wrong people. But come to Judgement Day he will not ask who was my home teacher/ministering brother, or bishop, or stake president? He will instead ask about me? How did I react? Have I been a caring home teacher/ ministering brother? Did I magnify my calling? The focus will not be on the faults of others but on what have I done to correct and overcome my own faults. My focus should not be on others, but on me and the 'beam in my eye'.

Consumer faith, where if you have something bad happen to you after checking all the boxes in church, or you disagree because something doesn't fit your thoughts, you throw it away. A personal relationship with Christ is a life long commitment. I like this very much.

I always enjoy your videos and the honesty in them and the scripture and background clarification explained with it,I feel you deserve a ton more viewers.

I keep looking forward to your vids👍. My apostasy happened in 1987 and was full steam against religion. Then in 2010 came my "eyes wide open" conversion. Now I hope that I always remember what is given me. After 11 years I hope I'm stronger.

I just showed up to the comment section and really late but Santa Baca!! This was like the best General Conference-level talk I have heard!

yes, we need to be be carful to understand the difference between church culture and the pure doctrine of Christ

I have two friends who are dedicated evangelical Christians who were born into the Church but did not gain a testimony or see the good. For various reasons. But have found God and the Bible in adult life and have repented of youthful sins. They never talk if our Churvh and are so happy loving Jesus fully where they are.

Thank you for distinguishing between the gospel and the church. While seeking personal revelation, h I have found it is important to differentiate between church policy and the doctinre of Christ. Policy changes. Pure doctinre of Christ is eternal.

I am 100% onboard with the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I know the source of truth and my blessings. I am interested to see all these end time prophecies play out and watch the world burn. From just above the flames.

I would really like to see references to mistakes by BH Roberts!! It is tough to make a general statement like this without some kind of reference!

This video helped me realize that a friend of mine is going to be OK. His faith in Christ is very strong, but he struggles with the hypocrisy of the people in the church. He studies the gospel and speaks with power and love when he talks about the gospel. But he hasn't been to church in 2 years. Now I know that he will be ok. God will judge Him accordingly and honestly he may be better off than some who go to church every week and check off all the things...

Thank you for bringing clarity and reason in these increasingly troubled times we will be facing.

I loved listening to this. As a mom of 5 grown and married children where 3 have declared themselves agnostic and a few have attacked the church and gospel on Facebook and other avenues with things they learned from CESpapers. This is all a concern to me. I’m walking on egg shells trying not to “cross” certain lines. I know I’ve never taught them the things they are saying I taught them. They accuse the gospel and church as being bigoted and not loving all. My heart breaks for them. The sadness is real especially when they won’t consider going to any other church.

Hermano, you get the big picture. If we could just get all to step back and look at things from the big picture. Keep being that loving, tolerant, follower of Christ and more and more will be drawn to Him. That's what we're to do in these current times. 👍

Wonderful presentation once again! Love the visual with the woman having a fit! 🤣 This may sound crazy, but I think I would be bored if I didn’t have something to spiritually wrestle with now and again.

You are spot on. I really enjoy your lessons. Each video inspires me to strengthen my relationship with Christ. Thank you for taking the time to make videos with so many truly important topics.

Thanks Kevin...keep recording! Love you.

Bravo, man. May the universe shine upon you for making these videos. And it will.

Thank you. You explain what I feel but can’t put into words as you do so well.

Thank you! Your wisdom and insight are such a blessing. I feel the Spirit confiming what you are teaching and I have learned so much from each of your videos. You explain the Gospel so well and I pray to be able to become as articulate as you are as I continue to learn.

What are your thoughts about the sacrament though? I believe church attendance is important only for this ordinance. It’s a baptism we can partake in every week to renew our covenants with God.

That was very well done. I shared it with several of my friends and a couple that ARE struggling with the Gospel.

I do so agree. I have been telling my children and others that church history controverseys should not threaten your belief in God and testimonry of Christs Atonement at all. THat is where we actually live our lives. Church culture can cause as much harm to people as anything. We all should realize that and try to do better and or not let it bother us so much.

thanks so much!!! you open my mind and the light bright more in my heart and mind!!!

Yes ,such a good video, II can't remember the exact quote, but the Lord asked ,the apostles, "will you leave also? "Lord ,to whom would we qo? Thou hast the words of eternal life" I have said this when questioned by family who have left the Gospel.and the Church. I wish others would understand the difference.

I believe I pay tithing and trust those who spend it to be guided by God on how to spend it

10:13 YAS!🤣 I have a great story about this. When I was a young child, I was riding with my aunt and grandma down Main Street. It was one of my first times seeing the salt lake temple (1990s). I remember marveling at statue Angel Moroni saying something along the lines of saying is it solid gold or something? Or wow! Or some such. My grandma angrily answered,”We’ve given so much money to the church; we probably paid for that!” She sounded so upwr; so I genuinely answered,”Why not ask for it back?” Lol. She didn’t say anything after that.

I'm glad missing Girls' Camp won't damn me. My mother would never let me go because there were men there. Had my dad not died before I was old enough to go, he would have let me go. He would let us be kids.

Great video, and super on point. I think one thing we must remember and saints + members of the church which is: (1) If we have questions or concerns relating to either gospel topics (or especially church policies) we should not be under the impression we are going against the gospel or doctrine for trying to receive clarification or even to offer suggestions (as we are all members). I think many sometimes feel like uncomfortable speaking up (so we or any leaders shouldn't discourage this). I don't think that is what Christ would want us to do. I really liked the imagery in the video (showing the gap between Gospel + Church) which is many times misunderstood as one in the same.

Personal salvation is just that personal. God has given us tools to discern for ourselves. Something that is greatly missing in our society today is Personal Responsibility.

Elder Holland talks, " the lord has imperfect people to work with , but he deals with it"

I think what's happening for me is that I'm finally peeling off layers of darkness, like scales were over my eyes. I can very clearly see that the gospel is true. I can clearly see that God still works through fallible man and directs us to his ordinances. I can see that the ordinances are still viable and that coming back into Jesus' presence in this life is still possible because the priesthood has been restored. Priesthood is necessary, and progress outside of the ordinances is limited. I also clearly see that man has been given his agency for so long in leading this church, that there has to be a setting in order. Even though this is Christ's church, He does not micromanage the leadership and allows things to take place that He doesn't approve of. And just as the true church had degenerated in Jesus' day, it has been prophesied that it will degenerate in ours. I have a testimony that He still works through it, even imperfect men. I also have a testimony that there are tares among the wheat and that a separation is coming. And that becoming a member of the Church of the Firstborn, consecrating our lives and turning our will over to Christ is far more important than being a member of this earthly Church. There will be a split, I believe, between those who are faithful to HIM and to truth, and those who are faithful to the church and the men who lead it. I believe that those who feel more loyalty to the latter will fall. The apostasy is WITHIN the church, as well as outside of it. That's what I think.

Great explanation on tithing.

this is wonderful! thank you!

I loved your message, thank you!

Thank you for helping us strengthen our testimonies of Jesus Christ.

Thank you great insight

This is the best one you've done! Thank you.

Thanks for your presentation

I’ve needed this this weekend. Bless you.

Thank you. Always insightful and well sourced.

Thank you so much for explaining that the church and the gospel are two different things. I try and explain this and I'm not always successful.

Thank you for validating so much of what I have believed fora long time

Great insight!

Another fine lecture! Thank you

Correct and well done.

Wowwww... Thank you brother!! This video is very well spoken and highly appreciated. Everything spoken in this message was perfect. I am so appreciative of your efforts. ♡

The only overlap segment I think he forgot is to clarify and give the true interpretation of the doctrine and the plan. he might be including that with priesthood administration but it is to prevent us from being tossed to and from and driven by every wind of doctrine.

I love how you explain tithing. I've always viewed it exactly the same. I believe I've thought of your exact example in fact.

As usual, wonderful video and powerful testimony. I genuinely love this channel. I only have a thought to add about the church itself. The church, while not yet perfect is the Kingdom of God on the earth. The Kingdom of God will join into, and become, the Kingdom of Heaven eventually. Proper and authoritative baptism is the gate of membership not only the Lord's church, but into His Kingdom. I totally agree with the message of the video. I would also simply emphasize that although seemingly small, compared to the power of the gospel in inviting and cultivating the power God in us unto salvation, there is still an absolute necessitation of the Lord's church that goes beyond only the ordinances and covenants. The church IS the Lord's Kingdom on earth. That Kingdom will grow and be perfected until Christ shall present it spotless to His Father (Ephesians 5:7, D&C 76:107). Again, the church becomes that Kingdom, the Kingdom of Heaven. In the church, as we love and serve each other we prepare ourselves to live in the Lord's way in His society. Now, our testimonies should not be in that currently imperfect church- but rather in the faith and hope of what that church WILL ultimately become, and most importantly, who we will become individually and as a society, through faith in Christ. I am also not sure that the people of Jared did not have the church established among them. The book of Ether was abridged by Moroni, contains 15 chapters, and covers more time than the entire Book of Mormon period. While the "church" is not specifically mentioned, neither can we rule it out simply because it is not explicitly stated. I personally believe the church did exist among them. The exercising of priesthood authority is explicitly mentioned in Ether. Priesthood comes by the laying on of hands, by those who already hold the authority. If they kept commandments, then they formed a church. If they had authoritative and proper baptism, they had the church. But Moroni moves fast through Ether, really pointing out the destruction of the entire civilization by rejecting God and His prophets. Again, powerful video and I could not agree more that WE are the stewards of our own salvation, and it is ultimately between God and us alone. I just want to point out that while the Kingdom of God on earth is still imperfect, our hope and faith in Christ is sufficient to trust Him with the perfection of that church, which will become and join His (The Kingdom of Heaven or Celestial Kingdom). I love that president Nelson has said, "the restoration is ongoing." It is. We can trust that and do our best with whatever God has and will give us. God bless.

I knew someone that left the church and became a JW, I couldn’t believe it because that’s where I started so I know exactly what they teach my dad joined the JW faith when I was 8 and I left it at age 16 because it didn’t sit well with me but I had a whole load of unlearning to do when I joined the church.

I love your insights - thank you for what you do.

Outstanding video! Congratulations!

Thank you. Your comments make perfect sense.

well said, thank you

A good summary of Faith.

Thanks, well done video.

You’re points reminded me of two very important scriptures that are excellent additions to the topic 2 Nephi 4:34: 34 O Lord, I have atrusted in thee, and I will btrust in thee forever. I will not put my ctrust in the arm of flesh; for I know that cursed is he that putteth his dtrust in the arm of flesh. Yea, cursed is he that putteth his trust in man or maketh flesh his arm. (Notice the warning is repeated) And D&C 30:1-2: Behold, I say unto you, David, that you have afeared man and have not brelied on me for strength as you ought. 2 But your mind has been on the things of the aearth more than on the things of me, your Maker, and the ministry whereunto you have been called; and you have not given heed unto my bSpirit, and to those who were set over you, but have been persuaded by those whom I have not commanded. Both warn about some of the problems addressed in this video

I am a witness of Jesus Christ I follow him. With unbreakable Faith. Period!! When following Man that’s A complicated path.

Wow! Thank you!

Another excellent video, thank you. You’ve made so many great points in this video. The tithing one was excellent. That’s exactly how I feel it’s not going to change the fact that I have obeyed God, and it’s not going to change the fact that God is going to bless me because of that. I feel that people who have an issue with what the church uses the money for are still thinking that it’s their money. So they think they get to dictate what the money is used for. But once you give it to God, it’s gods money. He can do whatever he wants with it including take it to the back of the building and burning it.

Dude. Your awesome! Thanks

I believe in Nephi and Moroni words, they condemen the current situation of the Church. Read 2 Nephi 26: 29-31 and Mormon chapter 8

Thank you.

We are the stewards of our own faith. No one else can take responsibility or blame for the choices we make, all our choices are in our own hands.This is a great video sir, thank you for creating this please continue. 👍

This was a very good video and well-spoken. This is my point of view also. I have been a member of the church since I was in my twenties. I have learned so much and appreciate these videos that represent the church and the doctrine. In my struggles I have learned much also my testimony is strong not to boast. That's only because my parents taught me early in life how to find a truth . We will always have those Skeptics, being skeptical is fine but it's when you take it overboard that causes harm not just to you but others. That's why the Lord give us the Holy Ghost to understand what is right and wrong. I believe we have too many people out there that is just too impatient to ask for understanding and find Truth and not forget all of those that are too lazy to ask. So truth can be given to each of us through the Holy Ghost. If you don't do that you will fall for anything just like a friend of mine. It's really simple if you (don't repent) and give up your sinful Life Style you will stay Damned (if you don't repent ). You can always pray and ask for truth. Look at it this way it may help some that will repent, that's if they stay OnCourse by following Jesus Christ. The Lord is standing with outstretched hands waiting to open the door. The door knob is on your side not his. And you were out in the cold Drury snowy weather and He is waiting on you to open the door so he can rescue each of us. Foolish Pride will tell you I'm just going to stay out and freeze. If you can crack open the door a little bit the Lord Jesus Christ in his mercy and Grace will call you and say please come and follow me my yoke is easy. It's all your choice. He waits patiently.

You said that one of the few things we need the church's help with is Perfecting the Saints - receiving our own endowments and making and partaking in those saving ordinances through temple worship. While I fully agree, I would also add that we need the Church's help with Redeeming the Dead. If we were in a distant place we could share the Gospel and help others but it seems to me this additional mission of the Church is included in the list of things we need the Church. I'm not speaking of finding our ancestors - this can be done without the assistance of FamilySearch which makes this process much easier - but rather being able offer the saving ordinances to them also. This can't be done without Temples. We need temples to Perfect the Saints - receiving our own endowments - be we also need those temples to do the same for the dead.

Fantastic explanations of why and how personal apostasy happens. Wish I could get several people who have left to watch parts 1 and 2.

Well done!

For those who are raised in the LDS church we are taught that we must receive our saving ordinance from the Church because it has the proper authority. It occurs to me that there are several scriptural examples of people receiving many of the saving ordinances and or priesthood power directly from God and or angels. We assume Adam and Eve received theirs from God and angels, after all, they seems to have been married in the garden. There are many occasions in scriptures that the sealing power was received directly from the Lord Jesus Christ or an angel of the Lord. Jospeh Smith also received power and authority from Angels to be able perform saving ordinances starting with baptism. Not a church. Point being, it is possible, when the circumstance necessitates it, to receive ordinances outside of the Church structure. I admit it seems to be the exception and not the rule, but it is possible, God can do whatever He wants. What ever is correct or not correct in the Church, God will lead and guide each of us individually. Confirming all things through the Holy Ghost will be your key to staying in the right path for you whether inside or outside of a church. Aligning yourself with as much truth as you can in this life will be the most fruitful use of your time to help you progress along your personal path to exaltation. I am so grateful to the Godhead for the New and Everlasting Covenant of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Thank you for reinforcing the core principles and teachings of the Gospel (Mt 22:36 etc) and for clarifying the (ancillary?) role of "the Church". The illustration of the overlap between the two is informative but there is (much, much) more there than meets the eye....Perhaps you would like to comment on Eph5:32 re the nature of the relationship the Saviour has with and His (The) Church and on the various "cultures" (interpretations) which some have adopted, based upon their understanding of such which in these last days have become divisive and a threat to "the unity of the faith".

Thank you for sharing

7:20 min: Terrestrial Kingdom, don't glorify it too much, it's not good enough. "These are … honorable men of the earth, who were blinded by the craftiness of men. These are they who receive of his glory but not of his fulness. … These are they who are not valiant in the testimony of Jesus” (Doctrine and Covenants 76:75-76, 79).

Thank you for your videos you a d your family provide! I would be curious to see a video about Enoch and the return of the inhabitants or city of Enoch.

I love your videos brother

My point exactly...I talk a lot about those who conflate the two. Once you can differentiate the Church and the gospel this life makes a lot more sense. The institutional Church is a tool the Lord uses to teach His principles, doctrines and covenants.

I can relate to some stuff said here, much to my chagrin. When i was a kid I recall when the first nintendo came out and we got one in our home. Me and my siblings were hooked immediately, but because TV was being taught as a waste of time if you watched too much and games seemed to teach you problem solving skills we all thought it was a better use of time. As time went on gaming was still my favorite time kill. Other people had TV shows or watching sporting games or reading as their favorite time kills (I read as well, could take an average size novel and finish it in a few days if i was hooked on it) I had video games. More time passed, gaming advanced, and explored new territories, and opened new doors to story telling and problem solving, as well as social interactions with others. Then during one conference the leaders of the church began counseling against video games. I understood that anything could be bad if you let it consume you and take your focus off what matters, but I was better then that, and was therefore fine. I continued to enjoy my at the time, not so guilty pleasure. Just like there are things that are good, better, or best; I thought my better was good enough. More time passed and video games went into new territory. It was becoming common to have stories that if they were made movies would be R rated, or even X. Before I realized it, I had gone much farther into the deep end then I thought. And that's exactly how Satan works, hooking us a little bit with what "seems" to be a mostly good thing, then slowly digging deeper into society and us tell hes got a good hold over us. Lately at conference it seems they have been pressing the need to cast off anything that doesn't keep us on the straight and "narrow" to eternal salvation and I am now listening. I got rid of all my video games and was suddenly surprised how much free time i had. It had practically consumed my life. Now I'm trying to use my free time more productively. If it doesn't bring me to god or is part of his plan, I'm not touching it. No TV, no Games, No radio. I'm going back to guidelines I followed on my mission. If it doesn't invite the spirit, or more importantly drives it away, avoid it if i can. Though I will still use the internet to stay connected to the world. I am trying to avoid inflammatory and divisive news articles, since im trying to do better at not falling for contentious temptations and thoughts.

We teach people to get a testimony of the church and to bear testimony of the church Tiday Many people at testimony meeting said this church was true. This church was the only true church where all truth was held. These statements and beliefs conflict members. If we are to believe more in our personal journey and need for a Savior, we need to change our language in church.

Good job 👏👍👌

It seems to me the choices we make, is to do the very things that will help us grow in faith, like keeping the commandments, repent and forgive. However, it is more than just a conscious decision on our part. Elder McConkie has taught that increased faith is also a gift from God, based on our personal righteousness, especially faith as a principle of Power.

My husband noticed born againer attitudes infected my family despite being pioneers before the born again church even existed. So somewhere down the line the attitudes derailed my family too. I didn't walk though, I had a feeling I wasn't being taught correctly. Something just told me.

Based on some comments here I want to clarify something: Yes, one can live on an island without the church and so long as they receive the ordinances they CAN progress technically. However if one lives among the Saints and believes they can progress without “the church” and thus remain aloof from the Church….they are deceiving themselves as a general rule.

The Church not only "helps" on our journey back to Heavenly Father, but it is the only way. Many leave the Church claiming they now have a straight connection to Heavenly Father, disregarding the prophet. They're deceived. The Church IS essential until God and Jesus say otherwise.

B.H Roberts was an LDS Apostle And also an historian but I don’t know if his teachings are wrong because I never heard them but he might of been right about some stuff who knows and we’re all allowed to have opinions.

Excellent video. I do personally think the venn diagram of the relationship between the Gospel and the Church should show more overlap. Far too many are quick to dismiss the words of living prophets on the guise of "The Church isn't the Gospel". Thanks, and keep the content coming!

Calvinism is the perfect example of latter day apostasy from the plain meaning of the Bible.

I can’t tell you how much I see people hate Joseph smith and church’s past because had faults. I want everyone to watch this, but I don’t want those trolls to infect this channel 😂

Please do a video on the mark of the beast.

Taking spiritual advice from or putting any trust in the words of people who have left the church is like trying to understand “the college experience” from a dropout.

I appreciate your views. They have helped me understand so much! But I have some hard questions that must be addressed. We wanted to become active and again after many years away, and did start while we were in Yuma, Arizona last winter. Since returning to Idaho we inquired about vaccination rates in our ward and stake and were accused of “throwing stones”. What do we do? We were all asked by President Nelson to be vaccinated if possible. How do we know where to attend and who to trust? Are anti-vaccers in the church apostatizing? When you talked about faith, you expressed the importance of living by what our Father In Heaven would want us to do. I don’t know who to ask…

This is an excellent video carefully pointing out the distinction between the Church and the Gospel. Thank you for your diligent and effective effort. However there is something a little misleading in it, I want to draw attention to. At 20 minutes of your video you show President Nelson with what appears to be a quote from his April 2021 General Conference address. The way you have the words arranged it appears you are saying that President Nelson said "not faith in a Church, but faith in his Gospel.' Reading President Nelsons address carefully shows he never said that. He never said the words "not faith in a Church". I urge you to clarify this and not leave this misleading 'impression' uncorrected. Otherwise thank you again for a great message.

Is there anywhere I can find a list of BH Roberts writings that were proven to not be doctrine? I wanna make sure I don't believe those things.

Where do I find / what is the title of the first apostasy video?

Hey, your gospel view is quite very high. Are you an S & I worker or teacher? Are You a BYU faculty or something? I will not be surprised when you will be called as a General Authority, Seventy or even an Apostle someday; even the manner you expound doctrines is very gentle and mild. What is your real name per chance? Thank you so much. I wonder how much time you spent studying the scriptures, including all written by our leaders past to present.

You are very wise- what is your educational background?

Nice presentation. Are you part of George Prince South African clan? I'm a Prince as well. Just curious. My wife's great grandfather was the missionary who baptized the sheep herder.

I am not LDS. I do have a question though. I see a lot of Latter-day Saints talking about the "restored church" and the "restored gospel". What elements of the gospel were lost that had to be restored?

One also has to be aware of the so called "progressive Latter Day Saints." Meaning those who preach/teach an alternative history or doctrine. Or at times out right falsehoods i.e. Darwinism/organic evolution is real and Biblical creation is a fable. This is being taught at BYU by active members.

Appostity is not performance, its a believe. And down in your heart thinking