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Well said Melissa! 💯💯 Protestant soteriology deterred one of my relatives from the faith. People think heterodox Christianity is harmless when in many cases it causes confusion and in some cases even a disdain for Christianity altogether.

What's the name of your normal intro music? I know it from somewhere and can't get it out of my head.

@@astudent5638 Honestly I'm not sure. An Orthodox creative mixed together the audio for us. I can ask him

​@@TheTransfiguredLifewill there be more episodes of this interview?

@@joshuadonahue5871 On Apostolic Succession yes that's the last of it.

@@TheTransfiguredLife which is it lol?

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He is risen indeed! Christ is Born Glorify Him! Greetings from an american to a romanian. ¿Eres rumano?¿Sí? Actualmente estoy aprendiendo español. Estoy frustrado por la gramática y la conjugación. Todavía no he conversado, pero tengo amigos y software que me ayudan. Entiendo la mayor parte de lo que leo pero soy demasiado lento para conversar con fluidez. Tengo que dedicar mucho tiempo a pensar en lo que digo o escribo. He mirado el idioma rumano. Puedo entender un poco porque es muy similar al español. Hay tantos acentos en rumano que me pongo bizco. NIcaragua y Rumania son dos lugares en los que he considerado seriamente retirarme. NIcaragua es profundamente cristiana pero mayoritariamente RCC. UH Creo que tendría que traer la iglesia conmigo. No estoy espiritualmente calificado para ser sacerdote y no puedo cantar. Eh. Los nicaragüenses necesitan ortodoxia: los papas de la RCC condenan al gobierno nicaragüense debido a sus vínculos geopolíticos. Mientras tanto, Frances acepta un martillo con Cristo clavado que le entrega Evo Morales y lleva una cruz pectoral de arcoíris. No entiendo al "Papa" Frank. No respondas. Lo descubriré por mi cuenta, ¡pero no sé qué significa este acento ^!

Hey Tommy! Thanks. It's a pleasure my brother and always great to hear from you! ☦️

I'll ask him about the 6 hour video. You and I both are looking forward to it. Also, that's amazing you still have that open door to talk to your Baptist pastor. Anyway we can help or recommend any resources to you we would be more than happy to fam. thetransfiguredlife@gmail.com

@@TheTransfiguredLife thank you SO much. I agree, I 'm glad he is willing to still speak. Though, I am very careful as to what I say and reveal. He sent me some of Dr. Ortland's stuff and so I have the opportunity to respond with a fully fledged orthodox argument.

@@jesus_is_kingforever5909 Did you ever get the chance to respond to him? If so how did that go?

What's this about a 6 hour video? Any response back on this?

@@groupedup Perry has been working on an extremely long response video against Gavin that is supposed to release some time this summer.

Kuhn. The Structure of Scientific Revolutions. Quine and Kuhn come to similar positions indepedently.

Idealism to be sure. This is a well known problem with Lockian empiricism for example.

I agree. This seems to be a very deep problem within Protestantism. I’ve noticed recently that a lot of the arguments against Orthodoxy seem to be predicated on how one feels about specifics within Orthodoxy (I.e. icons, incense, anathemas) but they don’t resolve all of the problems intrinsic to Protestant theology. I heard Gavin Ortlund state (about the anathemas) “that’s not how Christianity works” but he has no foundation upon which to assert this claim, or even a foundation upon which he can define “Christianity”. This “Christianity” becomes so obscure and vague it ultimately becomes redundant - the layman collapses into nihilism.

In every instance of the NT churches there were a plurality of elders, there is not a single instance of a single bishop leadership.

How is it working for you now?

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He is this summer

Making an exclusive truth claim is a requirement to be a Scriptural Body, "One Christ, One Faith, One Baptism" according to St. Paul. If a body doesn't make an Exclusionary claim then it cannot be a truly Scriptural Body. Though this isn't a completely sufficient condition to be a true Church, this is where polemicals come in. Competitive Claims don't equal them automatically canceling each other out. Atheists make this argument often as a polemic against Christianity.

What does this passage have to do with Apostolic Succession? In context, John the Baptist was speaking to the Pharisees and Sadducees who were identified as "brood of vipers" due to their malice and deception. The Orthodox Christians life is a life of repentance so if these words of John the Baptist you quoted are being weaponized as "against Apostolic Succession" then it's being grossly misapplied.

@@TheTransfiguredLife Oh... Silly me... Can you direct me to a passage that does have something to do with apostolic succession? Actually I am an orthodox Christian but you would probably call me a protestant I'm an apostle, right?

@@br.m you commented on part 2 of the Orthodox view of Apostolic Succession which focused on refuting the protestant scholarship. If you want scripture as well as the Early Church Fathers look for part 1.

@@TheTransfiguredLife I guess I should give that a listen. The reason I posted that verse about children from stones. With God all things are possible so God could raise up apostles from stones. There is no need to confine it to some unbroken line of succession. In that sense it is along the same lines as why John said what he did. It's not so different from EO or RC claiming to be the one true church. Like saying we are the children of Abraham and everyone else is a heretic. So I hope you can see why I posted a seemingly irrelevant verse, cherry picked out of context. God can raise up a true church even from stones, even from Martin Luther. Eastern Orthodoxy has no right to make such a selfish claim of being the only church. Martin Luther is a child of Abraham, an apostle and of the true Church of Christ and so am I... You probably are too... It can't be confined in to a box and owned and contained by Rome nor bishop nor anyone else. Maybe you could mention in the description this is part 2 of 2 or however many parts there are. I just noticed it says Part 2 in the thumbnail picture. Would be nice if it said in the description maybe title too. Peace be with you

@@br.m "There's no need to confine it to an unbroken line of succession." It's not up to me. Take that up with God. God instituted a visible Church with Bishops, Priests and Deacons. Do you think Jehovah Witnesses or Mormons have true churches or true ministers? If your answer is no, then you can understand where we are coming from when we uphold this doctrine of Apostolic Succession found in scripture and in the Early Church Fathers.

Dr.Gavin, thanks for pointing that out we are sorry for misunderstanding you around the 11:55 mark. We aim to be rock solid in our critiques and arguments. Apart from that is there anything else that's a point of contention or that you would disagree with?

@@TheTransfiguredLife thanks for the gracious response! I haven’t listened much further, but if I can find some time to work my way through it, I will let you know

Even with an earlier date for your view the argument as a whole that protestant apologists make on this point still stands

At the 1:08:25 minute mark some of your arguments are dealt with more directly. That should be a more fair representation of your arguments. These are in reference to your past Apostolic Succession videos as well as your debate on the subject.

@@TheTransfiguredLife Okay I skipped ahead to that time stamp. So many misrepresentations here. Dating a change to bishops to Cyprian's time is just completely wrong. Its not my view at all. Maybe he is confusing me with someone else, or confusing some other claim that I made about Cyprian. In any case he is simply putting words in my mouth. The idea that I claimed to have read ONLY those three books is completely wrong. He must be assuming that if I referenced three books in a video, that somehow means I have not read others as well (which does not follow). I stopped watching around 1:17:00. If Perry Robinson is going to be having 6 hours of rebuttal work, let's hope he listens more carefully to what my view actually is.

@@jesus_is_kingforever5909 I'm so sorry to hear that. Has she ever watched our stuff. We have dealt thoroughly with Dr.Ortlund.

Here is us with Fr.Whiteford tackling Dr.Ortlunds case for protestantism ⬇️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLClirB71N2mZnU.htmlsi=S78tBhPAw37il5KI

@@TheTransfiguredLife unfortunately, the damage has been done though I am considering giving her some references she might investigate. I suppose prayer is the best solution at the current time. If I send too much, she may simply shut down.

@@TheTransfiguredLife I do know, however, that she watched this and for some reason, believed Dr. Ortland was successful in this debate. I think introducing her to basic logically fallacies may improve her judgement.

@@jesus_is_kingforever5909 I think you may have Fr.SDY's and Gavin's debate and mind this is another video.

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