The funniest part to me is artificial materials tend to be worse for the environment than any leather product. Going 'green' has basically just become the next break through marketing like bottled tap water with an increase in microplastics that you can drink on the go. All the appearance of going green but actually going further away from it.

I barely got my FineWoven case out of the box before I hated it. The texture was so uncomfortable to me. Like a windbreaker or something. The way it feels on my fingers is the equivalent of nails on a chalkboard for sensory people. Or like touching microfiber. 🤢🥴 With that being said, I returned it and got a nice case from another company for half the price. 😂

I returned mine. It just scratches so easily and truthfully, it kind of feels like cheap plastic. I’ve always had a leather case from Apple and I’m really disappointed, but I wanted to give it a fair chance. I’m going third-party from now on.

These fine woven cases make me think of the alcantara keyboards the Surface had a while back. They’re just going to absorb finger oils and not in an interesting leather patina style, but in a “this looks gross” style

Apple knew they had a problem with this case, in my opinion. I read that they didn't even have them displayed at the iPhone event! You had to ask to see them. And there are photos going around showing that the Apple Store Staff have to actually switch the floor samples out for new ones since they get dirty and yucky so quick! YIKES!!! They may need to come down with the price on these cases. I see a LOT of vendors putting these on sale just to try and get them out the door!

It'll be fine if Apple willing to reduce the price. If it's sold not in the price of leather case, we all can still accept.

Im just angry they got rid of leather for totally non sensical reasons. Also if that was the true problem, there have been huge advancements in synthetic vegan leather, they could totally have replaced their leather accessories with their take on it.

Why would you market a fabric as replacement for leather? Artificial leather is a thing. For one, you can wipe down leather and artificial leather. You can’t give FineWoven a proper cleaning like you can with leather and artificial leather.

It’s not about the customer, it’s about ESG scores for Apple.

Had the fine-woven case in my hand today, it was terrible. Wasn't a silicone fan before, but that felt so much better so I may get that instead.

I've had mine for 6 days. I have done zero babying of it and toss it on rough, uneven surfaces with edges etc. It has show zero wear until today. Today I found a tiny black stain on the edge of the back surface (my case is taupe colored) but I was able to get 95% of it out with just water and a paper towel... the only weird thing is when I touched the wet paper towel to the fine woven case the case soaked up the water incredibly fast (darkening until it later dries) and spreading WAY beyond the area I touched... it looked like the case was a paper towel you put on a water spill in your kitchen! Anyway... so far the case has done better than I expected, and I like the look and feel... but I still feel it is inevitable to get a stain or mark that won't come out and won't look nearly as nice as a patina in leather. I still think this was a mistake for Apple but I do think its a bit more tough than people claim.

Its total trash and the fabric is like a 70's thrift store fabric. $60 is robbery, I sent it back on day one it was so bad.

I mistakenly ordered a non MagSafe compatible case from Amazon, and I didn't want to wait for them to ship another one. So, I went to the apple store and got the FineWoven case. In my experience the Apple silicone case does not hold up more than a year and I won't spend $50 on it and I don't like clear cases. I must say I do like the feel of the back & edges and it does look nice. However, it should be priced at $40 and the silicone & clear cases should be no more than $30. But of course, we have to pay the Apple tax, so they can virtue signal about saving the planet.

So, I got this case and so far I love it, at first I was worried about the scratching, but after having it in my pocket for a while any scratches I purposefully made are gone. It seems like itll wear to the point it looks really nice over time!

I sent mine back. I've had Apple cases for years - loved the leather cases. Now, I'm using a 3rd party case this year. The woven case is not my cup of tea.

Chris, thanks for starting this discussion. If you could please create a video comparing alternative leather cases, that would be awesome 👍

I really like mine as well. I’ve had all kinds of leather. I currently have a Cartier wallet, among others. The green fine woven has a premium look to it as well. I accidentally got sauce on it and I was able to quickly clean it without leaving any marks either.

Hey! Definitely do a video on case makers that use leather. That would be interesting to see which is the best leather case out there for an iPhone 15

I wanted to buy a Magsafe Wallet for my iPhone 13 mini and the blue FineWoven one was actually nice...as soon as I heard of the "problems" this material has (scratches are really bad aesthetically) I immediately went and bought a leather one...Apple has discontinued the product and you can't buy from them anymore but some retailers still has them..I was lucky to grab one of the few sequoia green leather wallets remaining. When in 3/4 years from now I will change my 13 mini for another iPhone I'm going with Bellroy, Blackbrooks or Bullstrap cases.

which case are ya'll getting instead? I always rocked the leather one, ordered the finewoven one but returned it right away, currently on the clear case by apple...

I got the black FineWoven wallet for my 14 Pro and like it a lot! The texture is cool to me, but I shouldn’t have to be careful with a $59 so that it doesn’t get scratched.

As much as I love the move to being more sustainable, I’m bummed they’re discontinuing leather. I would love to see a comparison of your top leather cases. I’ve had leather cases for years and I’m not sure who to go with now.

The most important problem that i see is that the case will become dirty easily but it will not break aqs easy as people think because the material are of good quality. There is videos showing the strenght of this fabric.

I don’t know I love this case. I’d rather have the leather for sure, but I love the way the back feels and the sides feel great in hand too. Now talk to be in a month if it’s all marked up, but my leather cases were too so

I never used cases generally, last one I used was the leather one for the X and stopped because, i like to have a natural feel to the phone. Got the 15 pro now and got the blue case ( because the 15's felt a lot more likely to slip from my hand than the X did ) with the Titanium natural one. I like the case, it does make a mark when putting it on the MagSafe ( for example ) but you rub it and it goes away. I don't know how people are already scratching it up so fast, why are you putting it in places that could scratch up anything so quickly in the first place?

Let’s protest Apple to bring back leather

I’m returning my fine woven case. I’m fine to ditch leather. It feels nice in the hand, but I worry about durability and stains. For what I’m paying it better last. This isn’t that product. I’ll be switching to a third party leather case. Sorry Mother Nature.

Chris, Solid video as always!! I have had a chance to get my hands on the new FineWoven case and was unimpressed. I’ve spent the past two years with the Apple Leather Case and Wallet and absolutely love them. They have been protective while giving the Premium look and feel. I’d love for you to make a comparison video that you mentioned in your video because I have 3 weeks to make up my mind on my next case before my new 15 Plus arrives. Cheers, John

They would have simply used man made leather/ leatherette or even plant based leather like some fashion companies do, taking away leather accessories completely wasn’t a good move…

I love the buttons so much, but I worry about longevity. I mean, for example, I inspect my hands each time I touch my phone because I am scared to stain my new case and wallet. I also attached an accessory with strong magnets and it left marks of the magnet ring. It does not bother me that much, because the wallet will always be attached to the phone. Time will tell if it lasts. My iPhone 12 had the leather case for 3 years !

I suppose we now need clear vinyl covers for our FineWoven iPhone upholstery? 😏 I know it's a bit late, but I've just upraged to iPhone 13 Pro and learning about MagSafe accessories and such.

I bought the Pacific Blue Fine Woven case and overall, I like the look and feel. However, I will be returning it due to the price not being right.

Q, is there a eco friendly alternative other than what apple is offering?

I tried the fine woven case and returned it the next week. The Apple Store employee didn’t even question me or provide push back, they knew right away that case was trash. I’m now waiting on the updated Andar leather case. I also tried Mujjo’s leather case, but the back edges are way too sharp to hold in my hand comfortably.

If it scratches it’s not the case, it’s your eyes! 😂😂😂

I like the design and feeling of it, the only thing I hate about it is that it scratches easily

It is going to attract skin oil and dirt like a magnet. All fabric does this in a case. See the soft backing of iPad covers after 6 months being used as a stand.

Hey Chris, nice seeing you again! Interesting video for sure, agreed on your thought to leave the leather as an option, and there it goes..

I don’t know but I have the Blue WovenCase and so far I like the texture at the back when I’m holding the phone. Just feels good in my fingers but the only thing I don’t like is it’s a little dust magnet but can easily swipe off but still.

I think they look good but I haven't seen any in person. I'm thrilled with my iPhone 12 mini, its leather case and wallet. I'll be keeping them.

Got my first Apple leather case last year and loved it. Guess DBrand’s gonna take my money this year

The Finewoven case is what convinced me to update my MagSafe wallet to a premium leather wallet instead.

Bring back the Apple leather case. End of story!

I really appreciate this take. Thanks!

Vegan Leather is an option a lot of car companies are replacing real leather with in their vehicles for all leather covered surface in the car interior. Why Apple did not think of that as a material for their what is called "premium" products!

I prefer a leather case and would love to hear your review of how Nomad, Andar, and others stack up.

I can't say the scratches that happen soon after using leather is particularly appealing either, whether or not people try to convince me it's "part of the patina".

It doesn’t feel anywhere near as premium as the old leather cases but if it was half - 3/4 the price of leather I think I’d be satisfied. I have the green one. On the phone it does feel nice and soft, it slides in and out of my pocket nicely. I’m not sure how long it will hold up compared to my 12 pro max’s leather case that lasted almost 3 years. I am worried about staining. At some point I probably will switch to a third party leather case but I don’t think the fine woven is bad either.

I was thinking about getting the leather Andar Espen or Mujjo case. I went with the Mujjo because it had the actual action button with metal button. The Andar Espen has a cutout which is a huge dealbreaker for me. I would love to see you do a comparison video on the 4 leather cases you mentioned.

Please make a video comparing those Top 4 leather options you listed! 🙏

TBH I don't really get concerned about my finewoven case getting stains and whatnot because I bought the black case and it hides that stuff really well. I'm more concerned about the side bumper of the case, which appear to be more like some manner of textured plastic. Good grip, seems sturdy, but the seam between the back fabric and bumpers seems like a weak point which might attract dirt and dust and might even tear apart if caught on something. I wouldn't have a problem if it were a 49USD case, but this is the premium case level and it feels kind of cheap.

I actually would have never considered a leather case until they removed them, now i‘m getting 3

Although I love the feel in my hand making my phone feel a bit cushiony and soft on the back; I showed my mother my new iPhone and her nails scratched it up so easily! I have three lines just from her using 3 fingers to feel the back.

Went to pick up a case for my Iphone15pro, and even the apple team members was criticizing the Finewoven case. The cases on the wall were full of fingernail scratches. Bought a leather case from a third party instead.

Getting rid of leather is a good move but surely they could have made something better than Finewoven? I went to the Apple Store day of iPhone 15 launch and some of the finewoven cases were already scratched

Nice vid. Thank you

I went with a third party silicone and leather case this year (Decoded). I have their silicone case for my 14 Pro and the quality was better than Apple's silicone and the price was like half of what Apple charges

That green!! I think it looks nice. I’m intrigued to maybe wax it, with beeswax

I don't understand what some people have against using leather. I'm unaware of cows being reared in large numbers for leather alone. Leather is usually a by product.

The issue with the fine woven i am having is no usb c 3 cable that i have fits in the hole.

I was going to purchase the course but I don’t see a discount code or indication on the site it’s half off. Can you please post a code. Thanks.

I love the feel of my new FineWoven case. Not sure how it will hold up aesthetically-but it feels good now - it’s new….I am also glad I have the leather wallet for my phone!

I like the fine woven case and so far I've had 0 issues with damage or scratches. I bought the black case and so far it doesn't show fingerprints. I'll admit it doesn't feel premium like leather but it doesn't feel cheap either. I've had it in my pockets, on my dresser, and in the cup holder in my car and it's held up. There is refund policy of 2 weeks

Huge Apple leather case fan. I grabbed a Apple silicone case as a temporary solution for my 15 PM til I find a 3rd party that makes a good quality leather case

In my country, Amazon reviews on FineWoven cases have a score of 2.3. That is abysmal compared to the 4.5 of leather case. Unacceptable quality.

I still don’t know why apple went with fine woven instead of vegan leather, there’s soooo many options to choose from

wish they made something in the line of the Peak Design fabric material. I bought the green fine woven case and it's nice to the touch but it will deff not last long if I put something in my pocket with it. and even when leather scratch, it looks more like battle scars, like a pair of AJ1 Sneakers, it adds character to the case. it doesn't scratch in the same way.

A *CASE* HAS CONTROVERSY? The Apple community is doomed.

Why’s it still $99? And the sides are plastic. I returned mine the same day it came in. I don’t like how it felt. Also wish I knew this was happening because the leather links were the only watch bands I used which is hard to find a dupe. The leather phone case is easy to find alternatives for.

Please do the 3rd-party leather case comparison review ASAP! I'm returning my FineWoven case, I agree with all of your conclusions.

I am okay with the FineWoven case on my iPad 15 Pro Max. I got three colors - green, blue and black. I love it. It sure hasn't made me feel like I'm using a case made from a microfiber material.

thats cool now we will spend more just to keep the product in top condition. thanks apple really appreciate all the innovation and thoughts put into it.

yup. I just got an iPhone 15 pro with the dark green fine woven case. I don't have much disputes about it. It feels nice to hold, its attractive and I like to color but something else occurred to me today that i haven't seen/heard mentioned yet. That is, fine woven is like a cloth material and in time it can get absolutely filthy. Imagine how susceptible it is to picking up germs. You're handling your phone out in the world all the time and unlike the other plastic or synthetic cases its much more difficult to clean. It's like wearing the same shirt for... however long you have your phone case (months - years?). The thought about it's future hygiene really grosses me out and am now kind of regretting buying it.

I ordered one and returned it immediately before I even received the phone and before all the negative press started. It just felt cheap to me.

What you said at 35 seconds is exactly apples problem in general. Don't worry about what the customer actually wants, but rather, do what you want to do and then force the customer into accepting it.

I have been enjoying mine. I was skeptical, but I am happy with it.

What sucks is that I was going to buy a new apple leather wallet a month ago not realizing Apple was going to remove them from the store altogether. Can’t even get them on Amazon or Target either anymore. 🤬.

After many years with an older iPhone with the Apple leather case, I was so excited to pick up my new iPhone 15 Pro max. I immediately went to get a new apple case and was so disappointed to see they're not using leather. I did buy the fine woven case and I've been complaining about it to my wife for the past 2 days lol. I'll be getting a real leather case soon.

Yes, please do a comparison video of leather cases. Thank you

I do like Apple bring out more environmental sound accessories, but with a price of £59, it was a sure way to get backlash for these cases. At that price along with the publicity you expect it to be better than the leather cases. A lower price could have tempered expectations and received a more positive response.

This case looks nice to me. I like the look of this finewoven fabric on a case. That being said I never used that kind of case. Fabrics are the most difficult to keep clean. I used Apple's leather cases and for the last 2 years I used their silicone cases. I like the satin feel of their silicone and the fact that it has alcantara like insides. Silicone is the easiest to keep clean and new-like for the long time. It's also cheaper than leather but that was never a factor for me when I was buying cases. I agree that Apple should leave the leather cases in their stores and add finewoven as a choice. People need a choice. It's not like Apple is the only one company making cases but again it's nice to be supplied the type of cases you prefer from the same company as your device comes from. I really do think their cases quality it great.

Presumably you buy a case to protect your iPhone, pays to keep that in mind, it will get beaten up and scratched, that way your iPhone doesn’t. That was reason I bought one

I purchased the Side Hustle course for the 50% off but now every time I click on the productivity course it is back to full price. How do I get the second course at 50%?

yessss leather case comparison!

Leather case 13P here, screw is visible, never noticed until now, thanks! 😜

I usually don't have a case on my iPhone and don't plan to get one with my new iPhone anyway. But I do get the Magsafe wallet and always love it! I did get the new FineWoven one for my new iPhone. TBH, I like it almost better than the leather one because it seems to be less stiff to put 3 cards in it! The look and feel are fine and yeah, it will get marks etc... but I think for the wallet, the FineWoven is fine... On the other hand, the case... not for me!

I love my fine woven case. Feels lovely to me

On a side note I’ve been using genuine Apple leather cases since my iPhone 7Plus. I have a iPhone 15 Pro Max on order and I ordered an Apple silicon case that I’ve not used since my iPhone 5s.

All of this makes me appreciate my ink leather case for my 14 pm even more.

I love how the leather used to peel off

please do a video on the different leather cases :)

I have the leather wallet and love it! Won’t be switching!

Articulated perfectly. Great video. Subscribed.

I really enjoy the feel of it

Spot on. Many automotive brands have succeeded with replacing leather with vegan options that are sustainable and environmentally friendly. This option as tech innovative as it sounds is the wrong one

I would love to see a video comparing some 3rd party leather cases.

Would love to see the nomad and mujjo leather cases compared

I got the FineWoven case for the 15 Plus and I’ve been using it for over a week now and it’s good. It’s not leather but it’s what’s there so I figured what the hell try it out and see.

The look and feel is great. I just don’t like how slippery it is. I always feel like I have to be extra cautious just holding my phone when a case should mitigate that concern. If they made the edge of the case out of a more rubbery texture it would be better.

The Apple online Store description of this case actually says it’s gonna „show marks and signs of use over time“ and say „if you don’t prefer that - stick with the silicone case“ - so I wouldn’t say they consider this a „problem“ rather than a „feature“, you don’t have to like it, but it’s definitely 100% not a mistake from Apple how it’s designed.