Since the iPhone SE's launch in early 2022, it's remained at $430 for what is at its core an iPhone 8 with an A15 chip. In the same timeframe, the iPhone 13 has gone from $800 to $600. Right now, the iPhone 13 comes with twice the base storage, a much more premium build, a bigger way better display, and significantly better camera system for $170 more. The iPhone SE is TERRIBLE value right now, please do not buy it. I like the SE as a phone, but don't give Apple your money- turn to the used market, where it can be had for half the price in good condition.

The fact that they removed the 13 mini just to sell the se is such a scumbag move from apple

Rip mini lineup, that was the best phone apple ever made other than the 5s

Here’s an idea for the SE: literally just make it the 13 Mini. Don’t even change anything, maybe give it new colors and a slightly better battery. Just sell the 13 Mini for $430 and call it the SE

Fun fact, my brother has the 2022 SE, and his battery health was at 78% after just a little over a year. (and it started expanding a month ago and the cheapest option for him was to replace the phone entirely lol) Such great value for that much, Apple. Very cool!.... What an Apple moment

The SE would be cool at$299

They should have *at least* dropped the iPhone SE back down to $399 🤦‍♂️ I don’t think that the iPhone SE is a “bad phone” in any way but it is a pretty tough sell at that price 🤕

The only thing it really has going for it is the home button, some people just can’t move away from the older design. That’s the reason my friend bought it, he was upgrading from an SE 1st gen and really wanted a home button so it still seemed liked a huge upgrade.

Damn shame Apple didn't drop the price on the SE because I would have love to get that upgrading from the iPhone 8. I personally like the SE more than the flagships. Even if I were to afford a flagship iPhone, I honestly am more drawn to the SE -- I like the size, given my small hands. I like Touch ID more than face unlock. I'm trying to be more minimalist using my phone, and I'd be saving more money from buying accessories like a case for the SE.

Apple shouldn't have discondinued the iphone 13 mini. Instead, they should have discontinued this se model, then rebrand the 13 mini as the new se.even if they sell the 13 mini for 499, people would still buy it over the the current se. Apple has become so greedy. Shortchanging their customers without them knowing it because of their marketing.

The SE is SO important for us 10% that can’t use OLED due to PWM! I’m gutted by all the rumours of the SE 4 possibly being OLED! GRRRRRR!!!!!

Awesome video! I will definitely share this with a friend who still has the iPhone 8. I’m trying to get him to upgrade to the modern Face ID, but he won’t do it. I think since he is from the baby boomer generation, that is why he does not want to change.

Some carriers are selling the SE for $150 which is an amazing deal considering you’re getting the processing power of the 14.

Excellent video! You should do more content like this. I thoroughly enjoyed sharing your frustration. Also RIP iPhone mini again.

Earlier this year I was contemplating a new phone but didn’t need the latest and greatest. I found a good deal on a 128GB 12 and opted for that over the SE. I’m glad I did because the 12 is better in every way except the chipset is one generation older than the SE. But even then, the A14 still powers through whatever I need to do on my phone.

Out of all the Apple things so far, the discontinuation of the 13 Mini has me most distraught 😭 It was always nice to have the option to buy it officially new, and as an alternative to the usual large phones Though after you pointed out how it is too close to the SE price wise, I can see now why it had to go, not happy about it though 😢

Great vid 🎥, Josh. Hope that you & Cola are both really well x. 🇬🇧

Im actually really surprised that Apple has the SE that high, I have an SE got it for $200. Every retail I go into has had it listed for $199. I never knew it ever sold for anything close to $429

Thank you for saying this I love Apple and my SE but they need to get their act together for those of us who love the phone because it fits within our budget I would love to buy an updated version with Touch ID in the power button and at an affordable price but I am afraid it will never happen

I like the SE because of its pocket friendly size and Touch ID. I have found that Touch ID is easy to use when making payments to different merchants and banking institutions. It’s relatively small size allows the phone to operated with one hand. I agree that the current price point should be lowered for you get.

I think the 3rd gen Iphone SE would've been much better if it had more improvements over the Iphone SE 2nd gen, giving more users a genuine reason to upgrade. The only notable improvments were obviously the chipset, (which improved the camera software, not the hardware) The battery life, and having a 5G cellular connection as opposed to the 2nd gen's 4G LTE. Basically the same phone. (Not surprising, as that's just what apple does.) And the fact that it hasn't had even the SLIGHTEST price drop despite newer phones coming out is kind of insane. It's almost like apple wanted this phone to fail.

Its the modern day 5C in terms of what you get for the price

WOAH coming back with the production quality! Lookin good

Love your videos. Would love to see more!!

Nice production level!

I got the SE 2022 through my carrier for $150 new. I love the phone a lot. I use my iPhones for video creation. I had the SE 2 and wanted a secondary camera but found that a camera for video with about the same or better quality would cost significantly more than even the SE straight from apple. So now I have the SE 3 as my main camera and the SE 2 as a secondary camera/go pro. I must say however I’m pretty shocked how much better the camera is on the SE 3 compared to the SE 2. It makes it hard to believe it’s the same sensor.

Nice to see ya back man ❤

My Iphone SE 2022 still has 99% battery health, works great. I have it in a premium leather case and it easily last me a day. I bought it used from someone who owned it for only 4 months at the time, paid $150 for it. Works great with my Ipad 9th gen and Apple watch Se. It's a great phone, best electronic purchase I have made in the last few years!

Apple's pricing strategy be like: Let's charge an arm and a leg for the nostalgia of a home button

6:27 I agree with this statement. Recently I switched to working at a cell phone store and a customer came in to buy a iPhone mostly because they lost theirs on an Uber and basically couldn't buy one since they're so pricey and possibly knowing that they might have used the ones with a notch an SE wouldn't be an option since they mostly accepted that they may not receive their old iPhone back and had to go thru a financing process just to get a iPhone 12 since that was the lowest end iPhone we had at the moment. The 3rd Gen SE just does not make sense but is also would if a 4th Gen one comes with the mini body but iPhone 14 or even just the iPhone 13 mini design but gets upgrades that make sense and not just say that it has the lightest end SoC on our current gen device. I clearly switched to iPhone because I wanted to try a Home button iPhone before going to a notch one and that's what the SE 4th Gen should be. They kept the Home button iPhone for this long, it should be time to finally let it go and make the SE line as just the mini but maybe also keep it but like mentioned in the video, with a lower price than the $429 it is now

If only they kept the iPhone 13 mini and canned the SE.

Great review!

I got mine used for 250 and still thought it was a bit much however, I’ve had zero issues with it. The A15 chip inside is more than powerful enough.

An important and overlooked feature of the SE is that it's very cheap to repair. For instance: A new screen for an SE is $130. For an iPhone 13 this is $280.

but the thing is that it is nostalgic and it has a small screen i can use one hand for

I got my iPhone SE for $200 brand new on the service I’m using. Would never have paid full price

I was hoping for Apple Keep the iPhone Mini but nope. You are right in what they are doing

I like the video’s new format 👍👍👍

Thank you! I audibly laughed when they showed their line up during the presentation

The thing most are missing about the SE is that it’s mainly a phone for older folks because a home button is easy to learn. They don’t need all the latest tech and are sometimes forced to upgrade from a flip phone since those are becoming obsolete.

The SE is a great phone and clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. No everyone wants to carry a tablet on their pocket. Normal people just want a simple and nice phone, with a normal design that uses a home button. The fact that it is the same size my 6S is an extra plus, because that size is perfect.

So much wisdom here, thank you!

Pssst in the apple uk refurbished section the 12 mini is £379 for 64gb and the 128gb is £419 ❤

Hi 91tech your channel is goodb

Me watching this on my iPhone SE 3 : 👁️👄👁️

I watched this video from my 2020 SE I got as a gift; it has enough for me as I only use it for social media because it got sim blocked

The price point is definitely to high. I think it should be $250-$300 but the out dated design is a selling point for people who actually want it and prefer Touch ID. Heck, I have 5 iPhones ranging from the 2020 SE and older just because I like the design (8+ is my favorite). I just put a new battery in my 2020 SE last week so it will be good for quite some time and I put a battery in a 2016 SE last year that has basically been my iPod ever since. I’ve been carrying the 8+ for the last 2 weeks just for fun. I’m really enjoying it.

Only I love small phone as secondary device I hope for another mini iphone SE has only problem is battery

I like how the SE is thin like the 6s & curve look which is why I got it. And I got it for $350 refurnished. I'll see how it goes.

In Canada the SE I just bought my mother was $580 Cdn…the iPhone 14 is over $1000. So, here the SE seems like a heck of a deal

You can still buy the minis at authorized Apple retailers, no?

I purchased one for 200 on eBay about 6 months ago. I think it’s less now, but on a trade I’m getting 650 for it with a carrier deal. I can also say I like it much better than the iPhone 12 I had at work, that thing had a serious screen gap, felt like a POS compared to this se.

It’s been on sale for around 150 thru the Tracphone Family brands on Walmart

Josh: every iPhone is a bit over priced 😂😂so true

That Drum n Bass track in the background had that Ridge Racer flavor 👌🤌

I think if you can get it used with a good battery capacity, I got mine for a little under 200 which I think is an alright price for it. I'm switching from an iPhone 7 and don't want to move past the home button.

Bought my iphone 12pro for €500 last year from ebay, could not imagine paying a little less and getting a SE

269-299 MAX for 128 gig would be kind of budget option, for the hardware it containts probably 259 for 128gig and 299 for 256 gig

It depends on where you look. I just got one for 49 dollars brand new from Walmart (with activation which was another 30 bucks for a month of service). My plan is to pay for a couple months of service on Total, which should than allow the phone to be unlocked and than I can use it as a second phone on my Metro account. Making the grand total cost of the phone 110 for an unlocked iPhone SE.

I have never paid more than $250 for a new phone SO it's always a new 6"+ Android and I use it until it dies. (I used a Razr3 flip phone for a LONG time, I still have it and it actually still works.) I do watch videos about iPhones to keep informed. Maybe one day I'll buy one. Good video.

I bought the SE 2 in red when it launched, it was cool for a while, a slight throwback with a tuneup, but it's nostalgia value as single depreciated.

got a 13 my self green model 128 gbs

Nice job on the video ... and your spot on the SE is no way worth $429. I was kind of hoping Apple was going to Keep the Iphone 13 mini around and charge $500

If you go to the refurbished section on the apple website and look at the 13 mini and it’s cheaper like ???

i’m glad i watched this, i was going to buy an SE to replace my second gen SE but if the 4th gen is rumored for early next year i’m holding off

The iPhone SE 2nd/3rd gen was only really a good deal when it first launched, I feel like after 2021 though it’s been a tough sell

Whats the difference between the iphone8 and iphone SE?

$849 for the iPhone 13 vs. $579 for the iPhone SE in Canada.

I have one, the "multi-sim" option is a scam. Sometimes it cancels a call ( I guess to reach out some info for the other sim card ). When you use it with one sim, it's ok.

Hoping they will bring back the mini form factor into the next generation SE.

A follow up. Bought the 13 and with trade in on my SE3 and some gift vouchers, I paid £180 for a phone that was £800 a couple of years ago. A point of note: If Apple are trying to be green, why don't they give people an incentive by returning the original box to them when trading your phone in? That would mean less packaging produced when selling in their refurbished site.

Here in Europe it’s €529, which correlates to about 560 USD.

It’s a shame I have a SE2020 and love it still. Maybe I”ll get this one day when it’s reduced to 100-200 by my carrier. I used to buy used but I have had some problems with used the last few years and since the newer iPhones can’t have anything replaced I worry too much now.

Fun thing that I was discussing this 3 days ago with one of my coworkers, compared to other companies you can get so much more than buying an SE for same if not less than the price, ‘forget about it you are getting an iPhone which is so much better than competitors’ he said, which I replied to him with well if we considered both to have same exact specs and same strength in all comparisons you are getting a very old fashioned phone when getting the SE which will make people think that you payed 1/10 pf the price you actually paid, this in itself made me despite apple yet I will buy the new 15 pro 😶.

I need an iPhone for work school etc but i can only afford an se hoping the next gen se will be much more upgraded

Just picked up a new iPhone SE 2022 for $49 at Walmart with ST and a $35 monthly plan. Not all Walmarts participate, just the ones that have a 3rd party cell phone contractor at the store. You can unlock ST phones after 60 days, just did that with a $249 (now $199) ST iPhone 11 for my wife and put her CC sim in no problem to replace her iPhone 6SE+. It appears the iPhones automatically unlock after 60 days, though I did put an unanswered request in. It's an inexpensive way to get an iPhone. As far as the SE 2022 goes, it's a little small, but good screen and it's fast. Already upgraded to iOS 17. Got a $39 Moto Pure on CC and may replace it with the SE 2022 after 60 days. Hard to tell I like cheap phones (The SE 2022 is $429 on CC and the next cheapest iPhone 14 is $729).

I bought my 3rd gen SE at the start of this year refurbished. It looks brand-new, and cost 30% less than MSRP.

I’m planning to get the se 4 if it’s screen is a bit better with a better processor for sure

You guys had 2 years to buy the 13 Mini and didn’t. Why are there so many people coming out and saying how much they would’ve loved to buy one, how it’s the perfect phone for them, but apparently weren’t down to pay $100 more than it would’ve been listed at now that the 15 is out? $600 is too much for a phone that’s allegedly the exact phone you’ve been wishing Apple would make for years? Apple would’ve continued to sell it if it made sense and it obviously didn’t. If no one bought it when it was new and even less bought it when the price dropped $100, why would they expect more people to buy it now that it’s 2 generations old.

My opinion, I don’t see Apple dropping the price on the Se 3 until maybe Christmas if they do it then but I agree it’s over priced

The original se and the 2020 se were great phones imo and gave me the form factor I wanted at the time. I never upgraded to the se 2022 as I did not see the point as it isn’t that much of an upgrade over the 2020. This year I will be upgrading to the 15 and I look forward to comparing them!

I got one from Walmart brand new on rollback for $149

I got my iPhone SE 2022 second hand in perfect conditions with box and everything for 250$, perfect value and what it should really cost (more or less) if Apple wasn't so greedy. I'm perfectly happy with it, I love the small, simple design and the touch ID. I'm not a photo/video taking guy, so I don't really care about those things much, camera is good enough for my little needs on that aspect. Performance is beautiful for casual gaming and I don't feel any sort of uncomfortable-ness for the small 4.7 inch display. However, for 429$ i would never buy it, so I guess iPhone SE is only a good deal if bought second hand in good conditions for under 300$, otherwise its better to go for the 11 or 13.

Just hope the next SE be this price to make up for this poor value tho Expected A14 with single 12mp camera on that & 3500mah battery

Bigger is not necessarily better for many. A substantial number of people want a small phone. Period. Full stop. Thats it. Features, brightness, blah blah they dont care as long as its small. Another portion want a home button. This hits both.

I'm glad somebody said it!

Apple did me dirty! I have the SE3 and I was hoping to get the 13 mini for £599 when the 15 came out. I have a SE and felt it was time to upgrade. It is about £599 on Amazon and John Lewis. What Apple do? Drop the 13 mini and decide to sell the full size from £599! What's worse, if I buy it, it will be one day before the other sites drop the price of the mini to £499. I am torn...

I got a 2020 iPhone SE back in October 2020 for $149 with ATT prepaid service (only required 1 month @ $50 to qualify for the price). Phone was a great value at that price point and I still use it today!

This is why I expect Apple to possibly offer something in the iPhone 13 mini size but it will have Touch ID on an enlarged power button and a single sensor on the back of the phone. It may be powered by an "binned" A18, essentially an A18 with less functional cores than the regular A18. (Rumor has it that the A18 will come in two versions, one for the iPhone 16/16 Plus and a more powerful Pro version for the iPhone 16 Pro/Pro Max.)

In Australia, refurbished, you can get an iPhone 11 cheaper than you can get a 2022 SE. The iPhone 12 complete with MagSafe and 5G isn’t much more expensive either

Excited to see what the next iPhone SE might look like 👀

I have a 13 pro with a severely damaged back, but Walmart has the se 3 for 139 which isn’t bad I can’t afford $540 to get the back fixed on my 13 pro , getting the se from Walmart and keeping it active for 2 months to get it unlocked is fine by me for now

i have the 2nd gen se with 128gb and 100% battery health i got my battery replaced.. the only thing hate is the battery life

I'm the person that doesn't want to let go of the home button 🤣 I went iPhone 4s, iPhone 6, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone SE 2nd and now iPhone SE 3rd 😅

i really want the SE for its size... is the 13 also small like the se?

My theory? It’s a holdover for next year when they’ll either have the se13 with the Xr body or the mini body but one camera

Sadly, the 13 just simply isn’t an option for people sensitive to PWM (the flickering display OLED phones have) I’m sticking with my SE2 until the SE4 is released and hopefully it’s an LED display, if not, then the SE3 it is 😔

I wish they would make an iPhone SE plus, so i can have a big phone with touch ID. Also they released the iphone se for people who want a normal phone, and also the price was already so low compared to the flagships so they don't want to lower it or it will be a net loss.

Another best part about iPhone SE is a 720p IPS screen when it can shoot 4k videos 😂

i got mine for 150$ from walmart did i get a good deal?