I think something that isn’t realized yet will be object based sound placement in Dolby Atmos. Having a virtual space realized with the ability to drag an object marker around in a virtual room space translate to object based placement and movement in a mix would be incredibly useful. You could change the angle of the view in the room so you can truly get the best placement and then have that track sound in your Atmos set up while you are working on it in VR or AR so you can really hear the changes in realtime. You could zoom in and out of the virtual room so get more fine placement or more general placement and then run your track and see all the object markers in your mix move around the room so you can see how “Active” your mix is. Could translate to movie mixing techniques as well. Or vise versa.

I’ll stick to using my 40” flat screen as a monitor, it cost far less isn’t reliant on updates, and isn’t at risk of becoming obsolete when a newer shinier version is released in the future!

I feel all of this is a kind of distraction and you are more attracted to gear not music

Love this. Thank you Sanjay C for being on top of this new tech and taking it to the musician brain. You really show the promise nad hte speed bumps. 👏

You bring us the latest and best! Thank you for the demo of the Apple Vision Pro, Sanjay C. That was awesome! What a ride!

When it's a tenth of the price, half the weight, 5x the battery life and works cross platform...then I'm interested

Looks interesting, It's still early days with actual Minority Report gestures.

There’s an app for the Quest called Immersed that allows remote controlling a Mac and creating multiple virtual monitors. And Immersed is releasing their own headset as well. There’s pros and cons to them all, but for me… I think I’m keeping my Quest for gaming, and I’ll probably get the Immersed headset for productivity with my Mac. Then I expect I’ll get a future iteration of the Vision once it is more mature.

Only Sanjay C can do this for us music producers around the world! We're thankful for this content Sanjay🙌

I actually used mine last week to make an educational recording for one of my students connecting to my MacBook running Logic Pro with forScore displaying my sheet music on the MacBook screen as well. I also used the Logic Remote on my phone. It was crazy reading the music and running Logic Pro on a 6 foot tall screen. The workflow was a little slower since I wasn’t used to it yet. The depth perception when I tried putting my saxophone mouthpiece in my mouth was funky. I ended up jabbing myself in the lower lip with it. I’m hoping for more hand gestures and, yes, controlling my laptop screen with eye tracking and gestures.

What a great rundown on the possibilities Sanjay! Thanks for covering this 🔥

Positioning windows above things, while still having a view of the space, was already very possible to do before the AVP came along with the Meta Quest 3, which also allows you to have several open windows at the same time.

Imagine running real time karaoke with the headset when singing or playing songs that you are not too familiar with the chord changes

Sad as it may be, this is the most inspirational video I’ve seen in 2024. Music, dialogue, production - so well done.

Hope they make a Logic Vision Pro and add undockable screens and spatial controllers. On another note also the ability to stream the audio from your macbook into the headset, right now you have to pair airpods to your macbook or just keep using your studio monitors.

You can't use the AVP eye navigation on the mirrored Mac screen because the design conventions for MacOS don't produce touch targets large enough to consistently resolve with eye tracking. It's the same reason that you can't use touch control on a Mac screen that's mirrored to your iPad using Sidecar - but you *can* use an Apple Pencil, which is fine enough to resolve adequately for MacOS. Apple is pretty clear that different OSes are fundamentally tied to their input paradigms, and they're rigorous about not crossing over.

I am currently watching this on the Apple Vision Pro

I was waiting for this review. Thank you. I will pass it for now.

this is cool i want to see what they will do in the future especially for music producers

Yesssss. Been waiting for someone to do this

Just thinking about the spatial computing aspect... what if with your hardware gear you could simply touch a knob or slider and the Vision Pro screen will give you a tip on what it's for (when getting used to a synth) or the current value, or secondary function etc. Another instance could be gear that normally contains lots of menu diving actually gets flattened out on a screen that you lock directly above the gear in question... almost like having a monitor dedicated to that one piece of gear... and you can setup multiple sets of these screens above every bit of gear you have, that stays there always.

Fun demo. Thanks, Sanjay!

Thanks for the review/demo. I agree, I don't think this is it, for music production...yet

4:00 what a jam

Funny! I was wondering about the potential of adding AR in studio, today! Then you release this video! Great! Thanks! Best from Belgium!

if the ios controller app is available on apple vision, then maybe you can use the controller app in the vision pro and use the gestures for recording etc.

Nice futuristic studio Sanjay

Pretty compelling demo, SC. wondering if making screen huge then working with multiple windows within limitations-ie-Ableton vert and horz modes sonde by side / plugin windows etc? Is the landscape of the open window scalable to accommodate more windows in apps like Ableton or premier?

it would make sense to use the ableton push3 controller to control ableton.... afterall it has full integration surely

Would be cool if you could overlay different virtual controllers onto standard 49, 61 or 88 keybeds

3:53 Let Sanjay C, the C stands for cook🔥🔥🔥

This is so the hotness. Appreciate the clarification for producers.

Awesome & Thanks :)

Cool. Will obviously improve with time

Great video , question , how did you play guitar without triggering the scroll gesture ? Apparently, how I hold my pick is exactly how I scroll 😂

Very cool. I'll get the next version

I’m legally blind, so I pull my 32” monitor pretty close on a monitor arm. I currently don’t use speakers, but I will be soon I hope. My computer monitor will most likely block some sound from my speakers. I hope to use something like this as monitor someday.

Great video Sanjay!! (I've been wondering about it, using them with my DAW; AVP seems its still on diapers)

This is so good that I cant wait for a video using an actually good daw (FL)

If amything, I would use it if there were virtual control rooms, where you can mix and master in, by using your hands and fingers to move faders, knobs, etc... of course the sound would need pro headphones. Also, spatial mixing could be a nice thing. Having the instruments as color blobs, you can form in any dimension.

Hi Sanjay C pls I just started music production and I have no idea of playing the keyboard do I go for an ordinary keyboard for learning or the one for music production?

Did you try using the logic remote/ableton remote ipad app in the headset? That may or may not be better than having the real ipad...

Can you use the mirroring with a mac pro or studio computer? Or only with a Mac book?

What iPad holder are you using on the Osmose

Thank you so much for this! I'm very interested in using Vision Pro as part of my mobile rig. I score fast moving action cartoons in Pro Tools and need pretty spot on playback. . Do you see latency being an issue using Vision Pro? Thank you and great video.......!!

Hey sanjay! Can u share the link to the app of dock station? I can't find it lol

Can’t you use that controller app that you have running on your iPad running native on the Vision Pro as an ‘iPad’ app in a window? Or are there no currently compatible apps? Although I thought you could run most iPad apps on the Vision Pro?

you could have bought a Nord piano 5 or a Juno 60 or around 10 to 15 small 27b key synthesizer instead of that thing cause just buy the meta quest 3 as it is lighter and cheap and can connect with pc and windows and has built in games so yeah and also what about bengaluru? Not a good purchase

Hellow, where did you get your desk?

It’s truly a pity we can’t at least air-click the transport controls at least. This video came at a timely moment for me. I travel for a living and I LOVE working on my 48” monitor at home so I’m seriously considering VR as a portable solution. Immersed should be available for the Vision Pro soon and that should allow for multiple monitors. I’m astonished that the Vision Pro doesn’t support it natively, but it may not be possible wirelessly…too much bandwidth required. Thanks for the video!

Look forward to Logic gaining gestures with Vision Pro sort of in parallel with Keyboard commands. I would be highly surprised if Apple haven't already been working on this. Other DAWs will follow suit if this method of interaction catches on. Of course this is dependent on the price of the Vision Pro. or subsequent versions becoming more affordable. I would go for this in a heartbeat, if i could justify the expense of the VP setup. But I can't. Yet!

Vision Pro is so cool!

how are the built in headphones of the vision pro ?

What is that mount for the iPad?

Good to know and sad to know can’t wait to see how far they improve the interaction

GOING TO ULTRA MIAMI WITH THESE GOING TO BE 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Notification Squad💚

If this was like a few hundred bucks, it would be great to have your screen wherever you need it in AR.

Imagine a pultec or la2a plugin on your desk!! or even serum

What happened to your S88 mk3?

"Moving screen anywhere we want" Liked this feature 👍 But Not ready to buy that expensive device

I can't even wear sunglasses for an extended period of time.

Hey, hey! I just noticed you are rockin' different monitors back there. Which ones are those?

How long is one set WITHIN 2 hours Yah so

RipX for Vision Pro is about to change the game for immersive music production... check that one out

i want multimonitor support within Vision so i can have both Abelton windows open (mixer/arrangement views) and all my VST windows open at once. But 1 screen only? I'll pass..

I’d rather get the iPad Logic on AVP. Meanwhile Geert at Moog is kicking ass with native AVP music app development.

Puts on AAPL?

We need video of footprint 03

Asio4all is making glitches and delays with all Ableton instruments.. how can I solve it .. this is Asia 2.15

SkyNet and/or The Matrix, here we come! 😉

Korg Gadget is out of this world! SAMSUNG had the virtual glasses a very long time! 10 years later, Apple releases this crap... Lol

Hai sanjay...i am sreejith from Kerala,india. a big fan of yours. Could you please recommend to me some of free plugins. I have watched your recent video about this topic. what to chose for (pop, rock music) in Ableton 11 lite (windows) using with scarlet 2i2 and rode nt1a. mainly For these categories EQ, compressor, reverb, for boosting and smoothing vocals, for boosting drums. 😊

Imagine jamming with other musicians, each one in their own room with their headset. Or seeing the virtual audience in a virtual gig…

u need a plugin to unblur plugins

In my opinion, it's a bit chaotic. I do acknowledge its potential benefits for the visually impaired. Privacy use case is valid too, although they might not apply to everyone. I believe this technology has the potential to evolve into something compelling eventually, but it's not quite there yet.

Awesome! But if you change screen position you lost the center of the monitor speaker, so this gear is pointless😲

not yet...

Remember how big flat plasma screens were and how expensive. These goggles will evolve into light weight glasses or even contacts …

this is so cool, for all 5 people :P

The Dino and me are good friends! Maybe I should do my version of a review😂 🎉

That vision pro video is making me dizzy and I don't even have the headset on.

Lol if I see one more person showcase the vision pro by just zooming in and out moving the screen around 😂

this was my dream but i see now that it is not really that good , i have tried this with quest and a few other headsets ,, in the end the pc mouse/ keyboard + usb controllers are better ......push2/3 , a laptop+ a 50 inch 4k lcd is more than enough .. APV is just another gadget like midi rings or the roland dimension beam . cool but unnecessary

Can people who wear glasses use the Apple Vision without taking their glasses off ?

so you please keep using vision pro honestly for atleast two hours everyday.😀

2:40 This actually was possible before. The Vision Pro is not even out yet here in Germany, but I can already do the same with my Meta Quest 3, which came out a few months ago and costs 7 times less. You know what's the problem with being an "Apple ecosystem person" as you call it or fanboy as I would call it? You don't look left and right, so you don't notice when something already exists and you don't have to wait until Apple does the same thing. Apparently it didn't even came to your mind to at least watch a review for the Quest, so you don't say something like this. Something like that should be part of the pre-production research. Another thing which is a good example for this whole problem. Before the iPhone, there already were smartphones. But still a lot of people still think Apple invented the whole concept of the smartphone. There also already were products from other companies with multitouch and one year before the iPhone there even was a TED talk where someone from (I think) the MIT demonstrated a big Minority-Report-like (multi)touchscreen with gestures like pinch-to-zoom. But Steve Jobs still claimed at the keynote of the first iPhone (word by word) "we invented a new technology called multitouch". Well, that was a lie. He didn't just bend reality a little bit. It was just a plain lie he felt comfortable to make because barely anyone knew multitouch at that point. And now it happens again. Apple manages to make people believe they did something that wasn't there before. And "Apple ecosystem people" are happy to help them unconsciously because they don't leave their Apple bubble and don't know what's happening outside of it. They breeded themselves a perfect customer base.

Sanjay!!! Great video🔥 Here to shoot my shot. Would you gift me with something from your studio?! Headphones or something 🤣

Looks like a solution looking for a problem to solve 😂

Great video! Nice to see an iPad DAW running in the AVP. You're the only one I've seen do anything like that. I did the 30-minute demo but I'm not willing to take the plunge yet. I see that FL Mobile and Caustic show "Vision OS" on the web-based app store, but do they show up in the AVP's App Store? As far as I know, the AVP iPad support is limited to two touches (as opposed to a hardware iPad's ten) but that still might be okay for plunking on an on-screen keyboard or drum pads, possibly placing the window on a table for tactile feedback. (I have PSVR1 and Quest 2 so I'm definitely all-in on VR as the future, and the AVP demo was *very* impressive.)

The apple we all know wants us to have a laptop and a Vision Pro. The way they they have configured the device with low storage and no way to connect external devices leads me to believe that they believe that developers will make apps that extend the control of their existing apps on the Mac. Using 3D controls to interface with the timeline and plugins. Allow you to control your session from where you are recording. Porting a music app doesn't make a whole lot of sense. You can't connect audio devices do it. Companies don't seem to be too keen about selling their products for iPad prices so making cheaper add on products that can't be duplicated on any other type of device seems to make sense to me. If the Vision Pro is used that way even buying the current model would be fine. You are not going to need extra power to perform these kinds of tasks. Since this is what I am hoping for, I will wait and see if this comes to pass and there is a less expensive (and lighter) product in the future but I am really exited about what developers will come up with to take advantage of this new way of computing.

Write music as you wrote it a year ago ..The classics do not become obsolete .. this is all pampering and nothing more.

Ya we would all have loved to “air click” on the screen- but Apple loves to make money of that feature so - be sure I’ll have to pay again for this simple feature - 😅

Now we need an emulator for the MacBook pro to work on it

Pathetic is the only word that comes to my mind

Namaste! This is not useful but fun. Then you for the video, Sunjay!

This guy right here lmao

Unfortunately not affordable at all, this Apple hardware! But interesting!

Expensive gimmick tbh