Applying Laminating Film/Doculam to Vintage Model Planes - For Tissue covering

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Mark Robinson

Жыл бұрын

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@hawkibj
@hawkibj 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you very much. I've been wondering what to use for a thermal soarer and I now know! Very much appreciated.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@deanedeane4318
@deanedeane4318 10 ай бұрын
Awsum product for the price !!! Great video Mark and I'm super keen to see your tissue trials and final outcome !!!! Thanks for sharing 😉😎
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much for the comment, its appreciated
@BrianChandler-pk5gf
@BrianChandler-pk5gf Жыл бұрын
Great demo, and it has given me ideas for my winter build. Thanks
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you for the comment 😀
@user-qw7pn8vb7h
@user-qw7pn8vb7h Жыл бұрын
I covered this dirigible model (20 ft long, 12 ft span) with doculam, replacing the original micafilm covering. Hanging in the Oakland Aviation Museum.
@navex4786
@navex4786 10 ай бұрын
Nice! 👍 Definitely going to try this technique, probably on a 1m DLG Canberra PR7 profile scale. On the down side - Wilko have just announced the closure of all 400 stores so will have to try an alternative polyurethane. Good luck to all who have lost their jobs. 😕
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 10 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for the comment, pleased you liked the technique. Yes, very sad news about Wilko, a great shop which will be missed 🙁
@belperflyer7419
@belperflyer7419 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely. We had a couple of Wikos in neighbouring towns and they were always busy. They'll be missed.
@belperflyer7419
@belperflyer7419 7 ай бұрын
Another excellent demo. I've heard and read of people using laminating film but never really understood what it is or how it can be used. Now I know! Now to see how adding tissue works. I've only just discovered your channel. I've been building models for years (mostly successfully!) but I've learned a lot new after watching your demos. Thanks
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 7 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the comment, greatly appreciated, pleased you enjoyes the video
@markford7682
@markford7682 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, need to get some, thanks mate.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks for the comment 😀
@dennismiller6131
@dennismiller6131 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Mark!
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😀
@terryblackman6217
@terryblackman6217 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. You make it look so easy. I must admit that I had a bit of a disaster with my first attempt. But I am shure that with the right temperatures and a bit more practice in will get the hang of it. Great video as usual. 👍
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Hi Terry, thanks very much, good luck with the covering
@rodashton4120
@rodashton4120 Жыл бұрын
Mark - Thanks for that. The various temperature where particularly useful.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful, appreciate the comment
@johnfreeman7005
@johnfreeman7005 7 ай бұрын
Hi mark Im clad you said it was a laminating film but not doculam , as can't get the true doculam here in N Z but i have found a laminating film which is 25 microns thick and comes on a 450mm wide roll of 500 hundred meters long for $120 kiwi dollars -- about 60 odd U K pounds .. As you said that will work out a pretty good price and i just hope it works , but if it dose not a local school says they can use it so no real loss. So thanks again for all your great videos really helping me back into the R C game after40 years away/ Thank you john.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 7 ай бұрын
Hi John, thanks for the comment, hope your covering goes well. There are a few other videos showing the techniques which you may also find useful. Happy New Year
@Tom-wl9sx
@Tom-wl9sx Жыл бұрын
Have just bought a roll, will test it this weekend. Now I'll know how to start 🙂
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, hope it goes well 😀
@georgemalesky9462
@georgemalesky9462 5 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 5 күн бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind gesture, it is greatly appreciated 😀
@alwaysflying6540
@alwaysflying6540 5 ай бұрын
I'm wondering how this product would look with paint. I might give it a try
@mapes12
@mapes12 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Very welcome, thanks 😊
@russetrustler7420
@russetrustler7420 11 ай бұрын
Many thanks Mark - great video. Could you use this technique on small planes? I’m making a Tomboy and a Mercury Tiger Moth ATM. James
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 11 ай бұрын
Really pleased you like the videos, thanks for your comment. Regarding your question, Yes, absolutely, I am currently covering a 49" wingspan Diamon Demon - kzfaq.info/sun/PLGILJsUw3dvSQD8t0nbFHLlNBjaAZoamd
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 4 ай бұрын
I've always just used an old-fashioned clothes iron for applying film (because I could never afford a 'proper' mini iron!), and shrank it with a heat-gun. I was astonished to see the price of 2m of regular covering film recently (10x what I used to pay for a roll!), so I too have been using 38 micron laminating film for my models. 150 metres for £17 from a mail-order office supplies company - brilliant stuff. As a clothes iron is heavy and awkward to manoeuvre, it tends to get 'rolled' round curves rather than slid. Sliding can create wrinkles. I did notice that proper shrinking irons (like yours) can be fitted with a heatproof cloth 'sock', which presumably eliminates the risk of the sole catching and wrinkling the film. Have you tried using such a thing?🤔
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 4 ай бұрын
When I first got my iron I used it with a sock, but didnt really like it, so much more tactile without. thanks for the comment
@collinmccallum
@collinmccallum Жыл бұрын
bravo!
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀
@pcm9656
@pcm9656 3 ай бұрын
You doing a sturdy wing? I would like to use it on a more flexible wing. Got to be carefull not to warp the wing. Do you have advice for me? Obviously i cant pull that hard on the material?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 3 ай бұрын
Hi there, this balsa wing was is an old one I use as a test bed for different coverings and techniques. I only used it to demonstrate the technique, laminating film is fine on flimsy wings, although it shrinks well it does not have a strong pull like some of the covering films. Here is another video on a much flimsier wing, my Diamon Demon - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z5mhmbFms9vUqGQ.html
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 3 ай бұрын
You can pull hard on the film, it is very strong, but it will rip if there is a cut edge close by, as you saw in the video
@larrybfallinjr480
@larrybfallinjr480 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. That’s an interesting covering method. Have you had a chance to test it’s fuel proofing abilities? Mainly for a nitro build?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
I have never used it on its own, I cover in tissue and then a fuel proofer, either polyurethane or other product depending on whether diesel, petrol or glow. The tissue over the film gives a strong but traditional look.
@philf5043
@philf5043 Жыл бұрын
@@MarkRobinson555 I have tested it with fuel and its completely fuel proof , Overlaps are totally firm and wont lift without heat , On the matt version , Good clear video
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, appreciated
@EleanorPeterson
@EleanorPeterson 4 ай бұрын
In my experience it's completely everything-proof. If you've ever tried to destroy a laminated document, you'll know how tough it is! I've tested it (in the shed, not scientifically) with meths, white spirit, cellulose thinners, plain and synthetic 4-stroke glow fuel, aero-style diesel fuel (with ether), polyester resin, epoxy resin, 2-stroke methanol/castor oil with 5% nitromethane, and even my homemade tomato soup (🤭). It's completely impervious. I've NOT tried it with acetone, though, so...
@rickmaccrone8775
@rickmaccrone8775 5 ай бұрын
How do you adhere the tissue? Very interesting tutorial!
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 5 ай бұрын
Hi there, I used a water based polyurathane which works really well, there are a few videos on my channel that show the technique which you may find useful. Pleased you found it interesting
@gregknipp2575
@gregknipp2575 5 ай бұрын
What thickness film would you suggest for 40" to 72" wingspan models? You suggest 38 microns, so about .0015, correct?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 5 ай бұрын
Yes, I use 38 micron, which is fine on my 49" wingspan, and I would happily use on a larger model, but of course it depends on the type of model and the stress the wings will have. On larger models you could try thicker, think they do one around 72 micron
@blue03r6
@blue03r6 5 ай бұрын
I wonder if this film would take paint? Have anyone ever try? How about using aa thin base layer of laminate then paint that and laminate over the paint so its glossy and protected Or can you get this film in colors? They sell this film at aloft hobbies and im definitely going to try it on a foam plane
@gavinlundie2310
@gavinlundie2310 Жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I see that you get gloss, satin, and matt versions. What is the product that you used please? Nice job on the covering! I am going to do the same when I get my hands on some.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
HI thanks for the comment, the film I use is gloss, which provides a great base for tissue covering, or just leaving as is
@dennislinares2582
@dennislinares2582 Жыл бұрын
Hi mark can you use a thicker laminate and just paint on it?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 Жыл бұрын
You can certainly get it thicker, and I have seen people rough it up and paint, but I have not done it
@kemasbossku9448
@kemasbossku9448 11 ай бұрын
Hi mark...can we use spray paint over doculam after shrinking it?.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 11 ай бұрын
Hi, I think you can but it is not very stable and will probably need some prep to provide a key on the surface. I have a recollection of seeing someone spraying paint on the glue side befor application, but I dont really have much knowledge of either
@wildan1340
@wildan1340 10 ай бұрын
How much thickness laminating film? I have idea about 32 micron, is it enough?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 10 ай бұрын
I use 38 micron 😀
@skoolsen
@skoolsen 5 ай бұрын
Hi, great video👍I would like to try this too, where did you buy the laminating film?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much, this is the film that I use - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183793543303?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FDdqUo8qRCC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=fsKLYgcjQ86&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@skoolsen
@skoolsen 5 ай бұрын
Perfect😉 thank you very much.@@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 5 ай бұрын
Your welcome 😀
@kemasbossku9448
@kemasbossku9448 9 ай бұрын
Hi mark, got one more question...which type of laminating film are you using? BOPP or PET?..thank you
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 9 ай бұрын
Not sue of the answer to that, but this is a link to what I brought - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183793543303?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FDdqUo8qRCC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=fsKLYgcjQ86&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@kemasbossku9448
@kemasbossku9448 9 ай бұрын
@@MarkRobinson555 thank you mark..
@charlesbovalis6591
@charlesbovalis6591 6 ай бұрын
what is the thickness of this doculam ?
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 6 ай бұрын
38 microns 😀
@alexmalcolm3156
@alexmalcolm3156 8 ай бұрын
where do you get Doculam from in Uk.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 8 ай бұрын
This is what I use www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183793543303?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=FDdqUo8qRCC&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=fsKLYgcjQ86&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
@alexmalcolm3156
@alexmalcolm3156 8 ай бұрын
thanks just ordered some ,now that Wilko stores have closed what varnish have you tried.@@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 8 ай бұрын
not tried anything different as I still have some Wilko stuff from before, sorry
@thatairplaneguy
@thatairplaneguy 11 күн бұрын
I’ve never been impressed with doculam. It’s no where near as good as real covering film.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 11 күн бұрын
The way I, and most people use it, it is not intended to be a replacement for "real" covering film, I use it as an extremely cheap layer under tissue, so providing strength and resiliance to the finish. Would not use myself as a replacement for covering film, as I say in the video title its for tissue covering
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