You can't tap it in the water is the problem

Agreed!

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I just found this out myself. A little upset by that but so far, it’s alright.

Yeah, not so contacless as you need to make contact to pull it out to scan. They just start selling here and already my friend at the store told me from the first 3 they sold, 2 customer were mad at how useless it is to need to pull it out to scan every time, also complained about the temp being off. I think sometimes trying to add technology seems great on paper but is useless. None the less, great video review :-)😊

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Thank you!

We thank you!

Power goes out and WiFi doesn’t connect then What? NFC was the best foot forward on a device that shouldn’t be touched as much.

Not too keen on the thought of pulling the heater out of the tank and holding my phone over the aquarium as I tap it. No thanks!

@caseyruegsegger282 and you don’t have to…

@@CichlidBrosIn the video you clearly said that you do

@@oqsy lol, did I say physically tough the heater? Just like Apple Pay, the tap is not actually touching

Any time!

Thanks Coach.

Very nice, enjoy!

Thanks Mel!

You don’t have to physically tap it or remove. It works through glass

@@CichlidBros Please read the instructions "With some Smartphone models it will be possible to activate communication through the glass of the tank, with others it will be necessary to remove the heater from the tank in order to bring it closer to the Smartphone" meaning that if you have it in a sump, filter area, or the back of the aquarium like most people, then you will need to remove the heater for any adjustment... pretty inconvenient and a big negative for me.

@@NaturebyGus yeah with those very specific settings, the NFC won’t work. Still would have a more affordable heater than most, with a warranty. But if it’s not for you then don’t buy it pretty simple

​@NaturebyGus I have a Samsung S23 Ultra and it took 20 minutes of trial and error for me to connect to the heater. There's virtually no margin for error with the NFC. My phone not only had to make physical contact with the heater, but I had to remove my phone case and slowly swipe down the front of the heater so it would pass over the EXACT spot to pick up the NFC. There's also visible moisture inside the heater within minutes of it being on and submerged. Not impressed so far

@@G0F15H At the end I decided to buy the heater and I made a full honest review (not sponsored) : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l5hglqRlqLfUfY0.html

Sorry to hear about the bad heaters. Been there!

Love to hear it, enjoy!

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When you get those 12 make sure to tell us JAY sent you and we will send you some thank you gear.

Definitely, and anytime! 👊🏻👊🏻

Thank you! ❤

@@SICCEgroup You're welcome!

​@@CichlidBrosHow many watts do the 2 lamps have?

It’s out ❤

The big 400W is 18.5 inches long. Each smaller W heater is slightly shorter, so depends on the size you go with

It’s shorty than other major heaters on the market.

We will be here.

This is how I do it in my sump!

It works from about 1-2 inches away, so you’d probably have to remove it

Right on

Thanks Jeremey we are pushing the needle and offering value with quality

Hahahahahaha well we don’t recommend playing drums with it chuck LOL

@@SICCEgroup if you did, you could sell them in pairs! 😄

When you start adding colors you change price. We manufacture these in Italy not mass production in other countries. We hope you enjoy the Scuba when it’s available 3rd week of October or you can pre order from some stores offering that.

@@SICCEgroupIf Troy gives it the nod of approval in a few months I’ll give them a try, I’ve been burned to many times by Colbalt and their Titanium heaters….looks promising though and I’m hopeful for a Black Version 🙏🏻😝

Preach brother. These misleading revie- uh I mean advertisements act like this heater is the second coming. When in reality its just as inefficient and 100x more annoying to use than any other below average heater.

You can calibrate so you don’t have too. You shouldn’t have ich a million times because you should QT. However less touchy less issues

No, it works through glass and doesn’t require a physical tap

It uses NFC. There is a dual nfc chip inside the heater.

I just got a response from Sicce. Scuba heaters only run half the time at most. This is NORMAL operation. So all the watt numbers posted for these are double their real output. This is a really bad design. They have a UI we should should at a minimum be able to turn off half power mode. They can call it wimpy mode on and off And yes I am a bit upset that I wasted $200 on these heaters. Straight to the trash. Unless I get a full refund this will the last Sicce product I ever buy!

I’d do the 150W or 200W

200watt

Yep!

Do you have to take it out the water to set a new temp ? Or can it be done in the tank please

A few inches away

@CichlidBros definitely interested in ordering.

If the red light is on, it’s actively heating

It depends. The FX6 is great and more GPH but it’s also double the price of the biggest Whale. We’d lean towards two Whales over one fx6 for redundancy

We will chime in. 2 completely different styles of canisters. Redundancy is a good thing and the FX6 has its place.

Yep. I’m going to use one with it

I personally don't trust it I run 2 and a controller just to be sure they fail somewhat often in my experience compared to other equipment

The 400W would likely be good for a 125. Or you could do two 200W

I love that you put it in the corner. I'm fairly new at this and I had the impression that I had to place the heater in the center of the tank to evenly heat the water..

I’ll probably still use ink birds just as a triple back up, even though I trust this heater

@@CichlidBros how long is the cable again I have my InkBird on my other side of the tank where I want to put this one since going with the 400

@@leo2o915 7.3 ft long, a definite pro for the heater

Yeah I believe it would be 3 separate devices on the app. Could put the same temp for each though and it should be even

@CichlidBros awesome ty so much yea I forgot to ask Jason when we talked lol but ty yea I got 3 pre orderd

Awesome, enjoy!

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I don’t totally agree with that blanket statement. A few Central American cichlids like low 80s but the majority of African or SA cichlids do best in 75-78 range. Over heating a tank can lead to expedited growth but also shorter lifespans and increase aggression at time. I keep discus at 82 with no issues.

See-Chay

If you spend money on good heaters and good thermostats then you generally don’t nuke a tank.. who in their right minds spends thousands on a tank and spends peanuts on a lousy heater.. that’s the equivalent of going to a Taylor to buy a suit but going to a dollar shop for sneakers you look a muppet. Years ago you only had glass thermos flasks that you had to handle with great care, this is the same for ANY GLASS HEATER now you can go into any big supermarket and buy a metal thermos flask and guess what, you can literally use it as a weapon and it doesn’t break, this is just like a titanium heater they don’t break.

We’ve had the most expensive heaters still fail. As mentioned in the video, the scuba has been tested against heavy resistance and impact without breaking

@@CichlidBrosI fully stand by my comments on this video….

Cool, don’t buy the heater then lol 🤷🏻‍♂️

Just get two cheap heaters rated 50% of aquarium size. That way if one fails, it'll not nuke your tank. You'll have plenty of time to remedy the issue when one does fail. Changing yearly is a waste, imo. I used cheap and expensive glass heaters for decades. All do their job but I use 2 underrated heaters for big tanks in case one does fail.

You don’t have to physically touch it. The NFC tech works from a few inches away and thru glass

The question is why are you changing temp so much? Also you do not have to pull it out of the water. There are many ways to CONNECT.

Lol okay bud. If it’s not for you then don’t buy it 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@CichlidBros Lol ok bud.

You can scan thru the glass or the top of the water if it’s positioned correctly. I’ll make a video showing it, although ive seen demonstrated in a video from KGTropicals already. I’d also ask - why are you needing to change the temperature so often? I set the temp one time and forget it. Lastly, even if you don’t use the contactless part, the pricepoint is better than almost all heaters and it has a 5yr warranty, which zero heaters have

@@CichlidBros Hello, it is not to change after it is set, is more to check to make sure it is working property, i do check temperature twice a day, i do have a back up lower watts heater in a lower temp set up as "backup" just in case, my 125 gallon has a big tall wood canopy with access in the front, moving the heater over there is not an option cosmetically horrible location, in order to check the temperature in my case, i need to get my step stool and sneak my arm through the front of the tank to reach the back just very inconvenient to be tapping all the time "after being connected to the heater" i am sure this will be improved as any new stuff in the market and costumers complains, just to be able to rotate the heater for a better access to the sensor, or adding a build in digital display just to show current temperature idk. i did tried through the glass with the heater detached, holding it, to be able to face my phone just to see if that will work and think about something to fix it myself but i was front to front the only thing that was in between was the thick of the glass and nothing. Again, i was very exited when i purchased, like a little kid with a new toy, it did not worked for me. I thought this "contactless" will be convenient for my setup, faster to have a different one with a temp set and current temp display attacked to the side of your tank, that will be contactless as well, set it up one time then you just look at the display for current temperature, no tapping or pulling unit out of the water, this is just my personal experience.

oh, if you are on vacation, at work or just laying in your couch enjoying and contemplating your fish and wondering what is the temp of the tank, no way to check your aquarium if you are not going to be able to tap it with your phone, as it is required every single time, be aware.

Why do you need to change temperature? I set it and forget it anyway. And even if you don’t use the NFC feature, it’s cheaper than other heaters and has a warranty 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@CichlidBros why aren’t people reading your replies I can’t count the amount times you’ve said you don’t need to remove the heater to adjust 🤷‍♂️

Regardless if you don’t use the contactless feature, it’s still a better watt-per dollar option with a warranty, which you can’t say about any other heater

No you don’t. It can work through glass

@@CichlidBros ok great, in the video you kept removing it and tapping it so it concerned me haha

I'm a fan of what you guys are doing with this channel, but this comes across as an advertisement that is scripted by the manu. You repeat very specific lines, don't list the price and gloss over some items that look like they could actually challenge the idea of 'contactless' or being able to monitor from a distance.

This isn’t an advertisement, it’s what I believe and wasn’t scripted at all. We do a ton of product reviews to show what we use or are excited about. If you don’t like seeing those, then skip the videos. You don’t have to physically touch the heater, it works from a few inches away and doesn’t have to come out of the water.

@@normallife9363 400w heater 5 year warranty = $59.99 on the U.S. price goes down as the wattage goes down. Preset heater at 300 watts is $39.99 US. price goes down from there. Yes you have to confirm with the heater you are making the precise change. Or just set it and calibrate it and leave it alone 😉 You can also monitor you temp from the app with SDC products and the ContrAll app. Or if you have an aquarium monitor prob you can calibrate it to that and receive notification from that controller of your have one.

Sounds like user error to me 🤷🏻‍♂️

Wish it was man followed instructions calibrated it accordingly got home one day after a week of having it and see that I’m running 3 degrees cooler 75 degrees why in the world would my water drop so low

@@Poseidonsreef You are correct horrible concept and connectivity. I have tried this over and over and it isn't user error. the issues are the following- You must lift the heater out of the water to have it connect not the advertisement of just holding your phone on the glass- if you have a case like otter box good luck getting it connected- you can not read your aquarium temp live....so really its a useless product that has no benefits over the dial heaters like EBO or others. To bad because I was all hyped up about this so called game changer.

Even without the NFC tech - it’s still a game changer being the only heater with a warranty and made by a reliable company 🤷🏻‍♂️ … I’ll make an update video showing the NFC thru the glass or above the waterline - both of which work for me. Why are you changing temp that much anyway?

​@@CichlidBros Not changing the temp, just trying to simply use it as advertised, unfortunately after using 2 different iPhone models Im quite disappointed . It can't even monitor the temperature live to see if everything is okay...then it would be a so so game changer. looking forward to your updated video.

Which is why the 5 year warranty is key. And it’s way more affordable than other heaters. But don’t buy it if you don’t like it 🤷🏻‍♂️

Really warranty is great agree but not cheap and own one but definitely not a game changer blooming pain keep scanning to make any changes, different strokes for different folks

How many times do you need to change setting temp

@@user-ue5iv3sd9b You don’t but it’s not a game changer heater all hype from sicce backed youtubers anyway better things to do than argue over this

No it’s not a physical touch…

I literally explained this in the video

We have been testing them for 2 years. Jay Wilson and the team have been testing them for 1.5 years. We had to pass strict GLOBAL certification. Remember we are a global company. We are manufacturing these ourselves we haven’t outsourced. So we control the quality and we provide the 5 year warranty. We have also been making heaters since 1974 with 5+ patents on how heaters work. Thank you for watching this video though. Supporting creators like Cichlid bros makes us happy!

Based on Amazon ratings? I stand by what I said in this video. The heaters run all my tanks now.

Not a physical tap…

No need to pull it out. Some phones works through glass and also all nfc phones depending on heater position. Simply raise the heater to the water and bada ding 😉

Or heck put your phone in water (we are not responsible for your phone) 😂

Ehiem new wireless heaters are another alternative with no tapping etc required.

@@Bigofft while not having the 5 year warranty... I've also had multiple Eheim heaters fail in the past

No you don’t have to physically touch it. You can do it through the glass and you can do it just above the water line. You also shouldn’t be changing your temp so often. Contactless is what the technology is called it’s the right name for the right technology. Plus it features a 5 year warranty, a price to make you 😮 and it’s made in Italy. ❤

@@SICCEgroupwhat kind of phone has a better nfc than iPhone because I can’t get it work through the glass on a measly 10 gal 😢

Perfect advertising for me. I don’t need to change my temperature every five minutes. My fish don’t get sick, so I don’t have to gradually raise the temp to combat some random fish sickness.

I didn’t physically touch the heater... maybe watch the video? It can even work through glass. Weird to also comment on the suction cups which are the exact same as Eheim, Fluval, etc

Using a dial is not so much quicker. Hands get wet and you may containment the water. The other thing is it isn’t precise. With this tech we can calibrate and be way more precise and on top of it offer energy saving mode with a 5 year warranty for under $60.

@@SICCEgroup if you say so...

No you don’t have the physically touch it. Not paid to say anything - just excited about a heater that actually has a warranty. Isn’t a review going over features of a new product?? I even said in the video that I can’t prove it’s longevity as it literally launches next week