West Virginia lawns...

omg hahaha been looking for that information for hours

@@CCumming1000and there it was, in a 11 year old comment 🤝

Will Air drying negatively affect the dwr treatment?

Got an alpha for 100$ in the garage sale section

Mmmm… nice try!! The value is totally there! 😁

buy second hand

That depends if your laundry machine is a simple washboard.

You can find washing machines for under 140?

Aren't there two-layer Gore-Tex garments? I have a late-'80s shell that wasn't all that expensive, and I've been assuming it's two-layer.

There are. I have an older Mountain Equipment (you know, that weirdly named British company) Gore-Tex jacket which doesn't have a bottom fabric layer leaving the soft rubbery membrane pretty much completely exposed; there's a thin nylon liner on the inside, but it's a large-hole net weave detached from the main fabric, so it's only really there to shield it from some direct contact abrasion and not much else. The membrane eventually gave out on the shoulders around the neck-most likely abraded thanks to the pressure from backpack straps. It can still shield from wind, light drizzle and dry snow but has been rendered useless otherwise. Now if only Arcteryx would distribute its Alpha FL better... Despite being such a critical darling it's surprisingly hard to get a hold of! The current model doesn't seem to exist in Moscow in any colors other than Flare red (and even then not in every size), and I haven't found any stores in Tallinn that would carry the brand at all. There are only a few sellers on Amazon that carry the combination of color black size M, and none seem to ship outside the US. What a goddamn pain.

fuck im going to start saying that now! XD

you should be flexing lululemon instead, bitches love that shit

Relatable

@@conqwiztadore2213 why not both

what if I dont have a dryer please???

@@davidzukal6718 Use a hairdryer?

@@davidzukal6718 hairdryer, homie.

thank you

can i apply the grangers DWR if the jacket isnt wet and hasnt been washed?

To everyone who questions the process involved...you bought the best jacket/garment made. Why is everyone second guessing the process of waterproofing after use? They are not selling their own product to re waterproof. I don't get it. Just to be clear, I am a customer/user. 1. FOLLOW HIS INSTRUCTIONS 2. IT WORKS And just for those who don't believe with the 2 step process...........the products they recommend work for all garments.

What is the maximum heat you can apply? I think my jacket got to hot in the dryer. It has slightly rimpled texture now. Not maxed out smooth as when i first got it.

Well if you had your jacket for two years, and were tumble drying it with no problem, then something else you did different obviously happened that ruined the jacket.

@@akirat11 coulda been the first cleaning/drying??

What do you mean it ruined yours?

@@dgato5397 fade perhaps?

@@joddo1991 I would say adhesives failing, coming off around drawstrings, labels etc

GORE-TEX Brand we love you!!!!!!!!!! Been wearing Gore-Tex based items since I was a child. I actually gave Arc’teryx products a chance because they was smart enough to use your materials.

Love ya Gore-Flex ❤️

These smart people that you speak of.....How are you measuring their intelligence? By the fact that they hold jobs that provide the financial freedom to afford an $800 jacket that cost easily less than $50 to make? Just curious

@@johns.1940 hah, you've obviously never owned a business since you have no idea what goes into the price of an item. Ever wondered why you pay 10 euros in a restaurant for a 3 euro dish? Anyway, arc'teryx jackets most common activities require run around the 200-500 euro mark. Let's take a proton LT as example. It costs around 210 euros in stores here during winter sale. It may seem like a lot of money, but considering its characteristics, it's well worth its price compared to cheaper options. The only thing I'm glad of is that they have a competitor, Patagonia, which has controlled the prices somewhat (similar jackets have similar prices between these two, here). Alas, if someone needs something more expensive for extreme activities, those people usually don't complain about prices.

@@johns.1940 don't be broke then.

@@mesteru I definitely understand what goes into bringing a product from concept all the way through manufacturing. I also understand that some of these companies spend more on marketing than they do on manufacturing or R&D. doesn't make their product any better than one that cost 25% of the cost. You're paying for a lifestyle when you buy Arc' teryx, in return you get a decent overpriced jacket. You know it and I know. Don't play coy.

yes , but now since music "rappers " have started wearing the clothes the IQ level drops when that fan base is introduced. It will come in full circle though in the end .

Pretty much yes most jackets with a membrane should be washed in a tech wash. And then spray a dwr on 'em. The drying etc is the only thing that will differ between jackets.

Consult on this with the nearest police officer

Welcome to the club, I ruined my jacket in the same way. Lesson learned: never use a dryer. In fact, the official Goretex video on washing garments just tells you "hang it"

Arc'teryx hello, what wash detergent do you recommend and what spray DWR do you recommend to reproof a Beta SV jacket. Should I use nikwax tech wash to wash it? Thank You

did you get an answer for this?

Nikwax TX Direct waterproofing doesn't require heat activation, but other products may do.

Hi John, To remove grease from a GORE-TEX garment, dampen the stain and then rub the stained area with Grangers Performance Wash, Fibertec Pro Wash or ReviveX Synthetic Fabric Cleaner diluted with 3 parts water (dishwashing detergent can also be used with fair results). After this rewash the jacket as per the steps in the video. Please give the experts on our customer service team a call should you have further questions! Cheers.

Dwr uses peri-flouro carbons. Longer chains are more repellant and last longer but it's a problem for the environment. I think companies like patagonia use smaller chain don't know about arcteryx

That is because you're not supposed to use Liquid Tide you're only supposed to use powder detergent with the vortex

If you're not reapplying DWR spray, you can let the jacket hang-dry. You just need some kind of heat source for the DWR treatment to set in - but that could be a something as simple as a hair dryer. Just make sure to apply the DWR while the garment is still wet - water helps it bond to the fabric.

thanks.

what if I don't have a hair dryer either and the temperature is low and humidity is moist in the room?

some dwr's dont need heat activation

What if I bought a $625 jacket, but I can't afford a $20 hair dryer or a trip to the laundromat?

If you wash the jacket 5000 times in a row it's going to break, but 1 time ( when dirty ) is a very normal thing to do, if for no other reason the jacket will stink and stain other clothes and furniture.