Time is relative. For me, if two people do nothing but exchange small talk for several months before jumping into bed together, that's too fast. Frankly most film/TV couples only exchange a wink before they get there. Not my cup of tea. But for Vi and Caitlyn, five days of saving each other's lives while working through their differences is plenty of time to develop attraction. People prove themselves through their actions. Vi and Caitlyn show their mettle to each other again and again. I don't find their attachment unrealistic at all.

Personally I think the whole concept of trying to discuss if two fictional characters fall in love "too fast" and it's "unrealistic" argument to not be very convincing. It is fiction and as long as people watching the show can feel the chemistry and the relationship/attraction makes sense in universe, I think applying real life logic of a romantic progression is kind of defeating the point of it being fiction.

Take out the life and death struggle and I feel like by episode 8 Cait and Vi are basically at the "we both know we are interested but neither of us has drummed up the courage to say anything yet" stage. It's the life and death struggle, coupled with the real possibility that Cait knows she may never see Vi again after she walks away, that pushes them to voice it. Which to me always felt very natural. They didn't profess undying love to each other, but they clearly share both attraction and a bond at that point and Cait asks the question knowing she'd may never get another chance. I can't wait to see what S2 is going to bring for both of them.

I got my wife to watch Arcane. After the finishing (in 2 days!) the entire series, we were talking about characters, characterization, and relationships. I made an off-hand comment that everyone (based on comments on Arcade video analyses) admires how well it was written, including a gay relationship. My wife said "what gay relationship?" I responded with "Um, Vi and Caitlyn?" Her response was "Oh, yeah, I guess. It didn't think of it as a gay relationship, just two people in love" THIS is the magic the writing team made. Why does this relationship work for us, the viewers? Because it feels natural. So quick or slow, the timing was right.

I don't think they fell in love too fast. Attraction happens quickly sometimes and they've saved each other, developed trust and genuine chemistry. We haven't seen them kiss yet or jump into bed without clothes, so I don't think so and I love this video!

I thought the same thing the first time I watched the series because I missed two important moments in episode 7. "My hero" is an awesome line but I think it distracted everyone from what happened right before and after it. Caitlyn is ready to sacrifice herself for Vi and Vi trust Caitlyn so much she tells Ekko (someone who also hates enforcers) he should trust her. They aren't strangers traveling together, they are partners now, ready to take risks for each other. When Caitlyn says "this city needs healing", Vi clearly reacts. That's because she really cares about the Lanes and its inhabitants, she's not fighting just for her sister and herself. Caitlyn cares about others and helps everyone who needs help. Vi realized that at that moment and that resonates with her own personality. In episode 9, Jinks says "I paid your girlfriend a visit this morning".

Great video, just like all your others. This is something I've seen all too often, always directed at wlw relationships. "It happened too fast", "It came out of nowhere", There was no buildup". Certain people always find a way to dismiss, or minimize, these relationships. However, when it comes to a straight relationship, these same people proclaim that a man and a woman are in love after sharing one scene, often even just one look. The double standards are ridiculous.

okay, first thing I gotta say, massive props to you for including timestamps of all the scenes you're talking about from each episode - as the first half of the video is very much about figuring out *how* fast/slow their relationship is developing this'd be extremely helpful for anyone who still has the timeline muddled :) I hope ya don't feel you have to do that in general in these videos, as I imagine it's a bunch of extra mini headaches to find and add in all the times in post production :')

I fell in love with a person that I knew for a one day, that was five years ago and we are still very happy in our relationship so I don't think that Cait and Vi fall in love too fast besides no one really said about being in love , right now we can just see that they both are attracted to each other and that's it

In story writing, it doesn't matter "how many days" characters fall in love. A believable romance depends on how organically attraction and relationships between characters are developed by the writers; they aren't forced, they don't come from nowhere and they aren't attached to the side like a tumor instead of adding substance to the story. Another example of a couple with good chemistry and an organic relationship who fall in love "quickly" in an action movie is Jason Bourne and MarieKreutz in the hit film The Bourne Identity, because the show was subject to fantastic writing. Justifying whether Vi or Caitlin fell in love in two days or two years doesn't do anything to substantiate whether their relationship is viable or not to the audience, because it's ultimately about how believable the writing is. Luckily, Arcane is subject to fantastic writers and a fantastic creative board. The arc and growth of Vi and Caitlin's relationship is consistent, organic, realistic and well integrated with the different plots happening around them, and the growth of their relationship is also substantial to the story as well (such as driving Jinx's jealousy). It also doesn't detract from or overshadow other parts of the plot, and isn't overly highlighted or exaggerated. They did a great job at showing the growth of their relationship and trust, which I'm sure they'll continue to develop as the show progresses in season 2.

i've seen enough people claim it's "too fast" and yet there's a very vocal minority enraged about the fact they didn't do enough (people who are upset they didn't kiss) so the truth is probably that it's just the right timing. also. i know many people compare this to an average everyday life relationship but most of us didn't live through the same circumstances so we can understand it. if they were starting to fall in love after 5 days in which they only texted each other and maybe gone on a date at the mall, maybe that would feel a bit dramatic. but most people don't get out of prison after 8 years in solidarity and then go through 5 days of almost dying a bunch of times and catching up on family and friends you havent seen all this time. the emotional state of vi especially can definitely explain this quick attachment, and caitlyn herself is shown to be extremely closed off with almost everyone around her up until meeting vi. idk, it makes sense that they latched onto each other like that

Do they even fully fall in love? Neither of them say they are in love, but it's totally realistic to develop romantic feelings very quickly for someone. Especially when they go through hardship together very early on. Struggle can bond people, and not just romantically (obviously that doesn't apply to Cait and Vi). Falling in love is very different from having romantic feelings for someone IMO. They definitely aren't "in love" but they sure have feelings for eachother.

Very well done. Concise, thorough and convincing. The production team and cast convinced us of their love regardless of timeline. You’ve deduced and supported a “realistic” timeline for said love. The former is far more important, IMO. But good on you for “proving” the latter. Thank you, so much! I’d love to see more Arcane content before S2, but completely understand.

So glad to see another video from you. Really appreciate your analysis of the interpersonal relationships between characters in the series. Your breakdowns of the partnership/ friendship and potential love between Caitlin and Vi are not only insightful, heartfelt and detail oriented but also pretty humourous. Cait and Vi's relationship never comes across as fast or forced to me because, as you've carefully demonstrated for us here, it isn't like they were googly eyed head over heals for each other at any point in time and certainly not after being in each other's lives for the space of a weekend. In addition to this, they much like any other set of characters connect because they can and want to. The very human nature expressed through these animated fictional characters is so well written and portrayed. Given the tremendous amount of time and effort it takes to make a production like this, I think the writers/ concept artists/animators and directors are genuinely happy to see their work resonate with the audience in the many ways it has. And if we are to get even an inkling of potential future love, they've done an excellent job of sowing the seeds for that and it's subtle and believable. And to those who are still saying that it's moving too fast, dudes come on, neither of them has made a move on the other or even admitted that they're attracted to each other (aka "shouting it from the rooftops"). What they have is the ability to care about the well being of each other/ be close friends and there's nothing wrong with that. It's nice and if it develops into something more, whether that's romantic - platonic or romantic - intimate, I'm confident it will follow a natural course in what feels like due time.

"Another one of my ramblings about Violyn" Woman I would HAPPILY listen to you ramble about anything haha, keep it up.

Extreme situations cause extreme emotions and when you put your life into another's hands for survival you can expect some extremely quick bonds to be created... the way these bonds are shaped depends heavily on the people involved

Counting days isn't necessary. "Movie time" works on a different time scale so _everything_ develops faster, including relationships. Jack and Rose for instance knew each other for like a few days before the ship went down but we just accept it as a movie convention that they fell in love in that short time. And there are countless examples of movie heroes "getting the girl" after what appears to have been a few days to a week at most. We just mentally fill in the blanks and accept it. Frankly it's usually queer relationships that gets most of the scrutiny and criticism over how quickly people fall for each other.

I just want to compliment this video and this channel. The attention to detail in these videos is amazing, and reveals the attention to detail that the creators of Arcane put into making it as well. I usually don't notice details in fiction at this level. Part of that is that I'm not very observant, but part of it is that most fiction doesn't care about details this much. Too little that does is lucky enough to have observant, talented analysts dig into it. I watch and read a *lot* of media analysis and after discovering this channel and watching through everything, I can't think of anything else that has altered (and improved) my perception of media this much with such a comparatively small body of work. I don't agree with every single interpretation but I feel like I'm discovering new ways to engage with Arcane, and with stories in general, with every new video that comes out.

This is really good; I really enjoy how systematic and logically you've broken this down to count the days that passed, and I totally agree that I don't feel their relationship developed too quickly. I do want to add though, that the sheer intensity of their shared experiences over those five days, including saving each other's lives means that one would expect a deeper and stronger friendship to form more quickly than usual anyway. Also, and this is something I feel is probably easily overlooked, Caitlyn and Vi are actually peers to each other (although maybe not initially) which is a new experience to both of them. Up until this point, I don't think either character had ever actually experienced having a peer, and a team member in this sense. For Vi, in all her previous relationships, she is either responsible for the other people (as with Powder, Mylo, Claggor, and Ekko) or they are responsible for her (her parents and Vander). And for Caitlyn, she's got her controlling mother and her father (both authority figures), she's got Jayce who seems to be more of an older brother figure to me, and she stands apart from her colleagues. Not to mention the added complication of her being from a very prominent, upper-class family (I think you actually spoke about this in another video). Having only recently experienced a relationship myself for the first time with someone that I could truly consider my equal or peer, and also a team member, I can't express enough just how intoxicating that experience is (all my relationships up to this point in my life were actually a lot like Vi's). I could never have imagined the impact and the difference it makes to have that sense of "having each other's backs" rather than, "I have to look after them" or "they have authority over me", and I'm not sure it can be properly described without having experienced that contrast oneself. My friendship with this person also became very deep very quickly, and we weren't spending as much time together. Sorry for the long comment, and I hope that made sense.

Caitlyn and Vi fell in love due to the trauma they both shared together. Also the crew did talk about some stuff about season 2 in the last episode of bridging the rift.

5:44 damn why ya gotta make your analyses such a poetic endeavour :'D

Great deductions, and you put the video together super well. Thanks for making all this!

I always consider "They fell in love too soon" to be unserious criticism. Ask someone who works at a Las Vegas wedding chapel whether it's "realistic" for two people to fall in love over the course of a few days. Additionally, shared traumatic experience is one of the strongest bonding mechanisms. Firefighters, police officers, and soldiers quickly form lifelong bonds akin to "love" even though it is a non-sexual love.

Wow thank you so much for this lovely video! It weaves quite a clear timeline throughout each of the moments of day and night in Piltover, so again thank you for making it so clear :)

I was surprised that you added another video. Because the last time we chatted in the comment section, you needed to rest after the last video. But I'm glad you made this one. When I saw it, I was really interested to see what's it about. Thank you for clearing the air on the topic of Violyn going to fast on their relationship. You have given us new insight and information about them. It's remarkable. And I can't wait to hear you talk about the Dragon Prince; especially Callum and Rayla, and season 4 coming this November 2022. Thank you so much Tilda Owen.

Good summary! I definitely feel like shared trauma bonds people together as well so 5 days of what they had to go through is definitely enough for them to fall in love. Excited that you’re branching into other shows :) I love Rayla from The Dragon Prince!

I just wanted to say I love rewatching your videos and I'm always looking forward for the next ones because they go in so much detail about Cait and Vi (two characters that I think are usually overlooked in terms if character analysis for Jinx and Silco for example) and you explain so well all your points and AAAAAA as a bisexual woman with a girlfriend (who can see many aspects of our relationship in them) it makes me so happy to see another sapphic analyze them in such beautiful precise detail 🥹 Ty so much for your work!! I cant wait to see what you will say when the next session drops !! ❤️❤️❤️

I actually felt the relationship development was quite reasonable. I had this argument against people wanting it to have progressed further. Some used the argument of Jayce and Mel - which is dumb. Jayce and Mel were adults when they met and had known each other and been prominent in each other's lives for years. As you acknowledged, there is an immediate physical attraction which is clearly shown through physical and verbal reactions (and, being animation it can't be argued to be accidental/incidental - every single one of those lip looks, lip bites and eye flutters were 100% intentional, and beautiful *chef kiss*). In that time circumstances force them to learn a lot about each other, very fast. Their values are proven in a way a lot of people never get the chance for, and happen to align with each other. Caitlyn, at least, learns a lot about Vi's history, good and bad very quickly. They also have a lot of chances to put their money where their mouths are. Again their personalities and values align and click. Forging a mental and emotional connection. Them having fully committed, kissed, hooked up, etc would have been against their characters - they both had goals completely separate from each other that were really important and time sensitive. But a strong connection with the possibility of more acknowledged by them both is perfectly reasonable. To me their relationship felt very realistic.

I adore these videos, always a welcome sight in my feed

I'm so glad you make these videos!

Great timeline review! This finally clarifies things

Besmudged...and lovely. Clean...and lovely. HAHA, I sincerely agree. I just wanted to say that I've watched nearly all of your videos and I'm astounded by your attention to detail, your interpretations, and your wonderful narration. Oh, and the humour! Thank you for all of them, they're so enjoyable to sit down and watch.

always love to see your analyses and I'm SO excited for hearing about TDP!!! the new trailer today has me bouncing off the walls

OMG IT'S HAPPENING! EVERYBODY STAY CALM! OMG OMGOMGOMG I SAID STAY F&$%ING CALM! 😄 welcome back Tilda😊In case it wasn't obvious, I'm keen to see whatcha got to say about Arcane on this fine autumn day (I tried to think if there was anything I could add to the conversation with your last video but ngl you kinda covered everything really damn well so I had diddly squat to contribute other than "ye, you tell 'em!")

Hey I really love your channel^^ You remind me of Rebecca Rose videos. I really enjoyed watching them, keep this up!! 😸😸

Here as soon as I saw the notif :)

Great video, I'm really enjoying your incite into this show.

Another amazing video! Gosh I love your channel so much. Also, there’s one little thing I want to add that confirms what you assumed but weren’t sure about with when Caitlyn was having her shower. During the tea party, Jinx says “I payed your girlfriend a visit this morning” confirming that it was morning :)

I want to hear every thought you have on every scene in this show now. Maybe I fell in love too fast with your videos

Another great video...and yet again more minor details discovered...i would much love more Violyn and Arcane. The video was the only thing that was "Too fast", wished it was longer lol...

No more need to be added! Very good analysis. For me it is also annoying that people talk about the relationship going too fast. Good that you pointed out these, the passing of the days is done very consistently by the writers but people tend to not focus on it.

Fantastic analysis and video! I really like how you dissect every little detail. And your little sighs and noises towards Caitlyn are hilarious (and completely understandable) I like to think that Cassandra is saying both things to Cait with that nod: "go (after her) and well done here" I also think it makes perfect sense the way they fall for each other. I've had experiences with people in about four days time (being almost exclusively together in that time frame), and you do make VERY strong connections, especially when profound emotions are shaken and involved (even tho mine wasn't romantic, but I can totally see why it could). I completely agree with your take that nothing has happened yet between them (no kiss nor sleeping together). If it had, they would have shown it, just like they did with Jayce and Mel. The only thing that makes me think that it might have been even a bit more than 5 days since they met, is Jayce's comment on the council meeting saying "we've been talking about talking for WEEKS now" or something along those lines. What do you think he was referring to?

Tilda talking about Caitvi? Instant like. As always, great video and I appreciate the notes about Cupcake looking lovely whether dirty or clean😁 Because it's true. I don't watch TDP but I recognize who those characters are. Honestly I'll be sad if this is your last Caitvi video before season 2. I honestly don't know what else you could talk about them till then, but I appreciate each and every video you've done on them❤ Thank you Tilda.

Good day to you, dear Tilda Owen!!! It's always a blessing to hear/see from you again (can you even say that?). My first OTP being Leorai from TMNT 2003, I always had impossibly hight standarts regarding relationship and character development on screen (which is ironic, 'cause Leorai never made it to being canonic and Karai's character arc was ruined). I always wanted them to have enough time to change their perspective, opinions, have their mental and/or existential crisys. It seemned unnatural and forced to me when character tie a knot after, what, 1,5 hours of screentime? This is another reason why I loved Violyn so much. They made me feel like I haven't felt in a long time, the pure fascination, exitement and this bittersweet pain in the chest. I'm an emotional gal, sure, but it's hard to make me feel *physical* pain and go over and over one small scene taking its every detail. This vid actually allowed me to pose a question: why time never mattered when it was about Vi and Caitlyn. And I thought of the last scene where they are one, united by the feeling of dread, fear and loss, with no barier in between. There will be guilt, accusations, more pain, twisting changes and anger but right now, when they hold each other and cry they are one and they defeated prejudice, hate and class difference. They broke a wall no government was able to. And... it's someting affection and care do, don't they? They break walls and built connections. Well, speaking of the video, of the documents shinannigans, to be exact. I always thought Caitlyn copied Jaycr seal without the need to return. She was able to restore Jinx's monkey though she saw it once - before being blown up, may I add. So it seems possible she memorized Jayce's seal after reading the assigment he gave her. But then, I never payed attention Caitlyn has protocol "stencil" (or how is it called) paper. Is it possible she had some on her (or memorized???) since Markus would have been interested in keeping her behind the desk and out of his business? Idk and it's frustrating. Speaking of frustration, I think I managed to fish out some(?) information about Kiramman family old business. I don't know if you remember or if it's still relevant, but my friend told me to read stuff on LoL site or ask other players. It seemed Kirammans used to make locks and keyes (and their creast reference this), but I need to double check this info. I didn't know there to share it, here or below the video it was talked about. And to say my goodbye... Rayllum??? So, do you mean my favourite essayist whom I found out due to analyzes about my favourite character and favourite OTP is making the new analysis about my other favourite character and couple????? Damn, You know how to make the worst days brighter. It was a great video! Thank you for posting, dear Tilda Owen! Stay safe!

Also, the night of the tea party, Jinx announces that she visited Vi's girlfriend that same morning.

It's been so long I've missed you.😊

An informative and explanatory video! You're quickly becoming a memorable content creator! Or should I say "too fast" haha! I always like to see these girls under your spotlight, no matter how many videos you'd make on them. I've seen young people "falling in love" at a line in some coffee shop! Where is the line that things becoming "too fast" when reached in these days, especially with the new generation? And Arcane isn't going to be one of the shows which stretches to about 12 seasons either, so things should go in a bit faster pace than normal. Also, these girls didn't see each other while doing some grocery shopping. The story between them felt so right to me, never thought about how fast or forced it was (since the show isn't around their relationship, I actually didn't even think about it at first). It just fits!

Hi Tilda!! Loved this video,!! Yep , they falling for each other make total sense as you have pointed out in your previous Violyn videos (I like this ship name 🥰). They learned to trust each other, Vi learned that not all topsiders are empty and cruel people, and Cait learned about all the suffering and despair in the undercity. It is like The Happy Prince and the Swallow from Oscar Wilde. The Prince never knew how the life outside his palace was until he was able too see it when he died through his statue, and then the swallow came and allowed him to help his people . It Is a wonderful tale though hopefully the end for Cait (the prince) and Vi (the Swallow ) will be more positive.

please make more arcane analysis videos i still cant get over this show😭

Wow, great detail following the days through the show. Her parents reaction makes more sense than just her sneaking out for the night.

Not love yet maybe but definitely kismet and potential. Sharing danger and relying on each other and sharing stories, how can you not feel something? So IMO, it really wasn't too fast. Very good breakdown and keeping track of the time in the show!

Thanks for the video, it is beautiful. Just wanted to add a personal note, as I've been thinking about this question for a while. The day I met my wife for first time I told my sister in the evening "I met this person today, and I will marry her one day". After a 9 years relationship, we got married 3 years ago :) I had forgotten this fact and my sister reminded me in the day of our wedding. (Never forget again lol) So NO they didn't fall in love too fast cause you actually CAN fall in love really fast if you meet the right person

Your analysis videos are always interesting. With such solid evidence presented in this video, I’m sold on the five days conclusion. Just funny that when you confidently said that they’ve known each other for 5 days I was like, how did you know for sure? Guess I never paid attention to the day and night cycle when watching arcane 😅. Your attention to detail is excellent! Heck, with Caitlyn being so yummy I wouldn’t be surprised if you fell for her at first sight 😉

They fall in love very, but not *too* fast, even though they fell in love at the speed of light.

Two words: Trauma Bonding ( their lifelong held perspectives are changing.)

Oh my gosh I LOVE your accent

You can argue it's too fast but not unnatural. Not much of a psychologist but when two people experience intense emotions with each other and situations happening so quickly around them you do tend to form stronger connections faster as a result.

Extenuating circumstances allow feelings to rapidly develop to people. While such a short time may not be enough to let you know if you want to spend the rest if your life with them since you don't really know them, or whether those feelings will last as you do get to know the person better, it's indeed enough for people to fall in love.

Counterpoint: have you SEEN Vi? Lovely video btw :)

Heey, welcome back! I don't think it was too fast. If I were trapped in a concrete box for a decade, I'd probably do the same with the first person I come across especially if it happens to be someone like, you know, caitlyn. Unrelated, but you might enjoy a fun animated video titled "is Caitlyn gay or European" as a fellow Cait enthusiast. Also, I'm looking forward a tea party vid because it needs more attention overall. One thing I noticed is the crows. There are crows everywhere in Arcane. Jinx keeps shooting them, and especially there is a "murder" of crows in the background during the scene where she kidnaps everyone for tea party. Crows are a symbol of change and adaptability and also bad luck. She keeps shooting them in previous acts, resisting change, and crows keep following her. Her fight on the bridge with Ekko is a firelight vs crow which can be seen behind the two. She again ends up shooting the crow, not a literal crow this time but herself as she tries to kill the Jinx part of herself as Powder. We don't see Powder after that, she gets the shimmer upgrade and it worsens her condition. She also proves this resistance by lighting up the flare Vi gave her years ago, proving that even after all those years all she wanted was her sister to find her. During the tea party scene, though, the crows are all gathered on the roof of the building as if waiting for something important to happen, a decision. Finally, she sits at the "Jinx" chair, which is decorated with the crow feathers she collected from the ones she shot if you look closely. She finally accepts change, as Jinx, and the hope of getting Powder back is gone. She even uses crow feathers to bookmark the pages of arcane book while weaponizing it. The same weapon and magic that started all the change, including the birth of jinx. Crow of change and also bad luck. Her choosing Jinx is accepting the crow, accepting change and accepting her bad fate. Ironically, she is the only person who accepts change willingly while others have to come to terms with it through forcing it. Been a long comment, but would like to hear your thoughts about that (or not if you're already making a vid about it). Have a nice day Tilda!

'besmudged', Tilda you are pure class. I love watching your mini-obession. (its mine too)

What drives me to believe Vi fell this quick is because of her values and her love language. Vi’s love language is mainly sacrifice and protection, so when she sees Caitlyn trying to protect her and sacrificing her life for Vi (when she comes to block Jinx’s bullets from her in the bridge scene) Vi becomes very "attracted" to that. Making her therefore trusting Caitlyn more than she would’ve otherwise. Also Vi’s love language mainly occurs with members of her family. She was brought up knowing that family make sacrifices for each other, so when someone non family does just that she gravitâtes more towards loving Caitlyn for those reasons. So in return, Vi becomes protective of Caitlyn, as shown in the Tea party scene where she got mad at Jinx for involving her in their troubles. That earned trust from Vi is why I think 5 days would be more than enough for Vi to fall in love and same for Caitlyn, hope I made sense 😂

So glad to see another video. I haven't watched it, yet, but want to just say, "No." Now, I'll watch. Thanks for this.

See I think people bond faster when they deal with hardship. The fight with Sevika, escaping Silco, being captured by the Firelights, and enduring the bombing on the bridge? It makes sense that the two come together so quickly

yeah and like you’ve said in previous videos, going through these probably often times extremely traumatic events together and being each other’s only ally during this entire week nonstop, it’s safe to say at least a little bit of a trauma bond is formed. i mean they both almost died at least three times just from the top of my head. and they had each other. and pretty much only each other the entire time. i mean i knew i loved my wife after talking to her for a month when we would call for hours and hours every day, so sharing this trauma, hardly ever separating, and having the attraction and even the emotional incentive, i think it’s clear they had plenty of time to fall into L word . or at the very least, have a romantic attraction that keeps them close come season two ugh i’ll be so sad if i don’t get a kiss outta them s2😭😭

The answer is no because by the end of S1 they are still trying to figure it out themselves and more time has passed than just one day or even a couple. There's an argument that more time goes by than what TV/movies show. The characters also know they are interested, but taking it further is complicated due to the lives they lead getting in the way for them to figure things out. So, the fact that they like each other doesn't mean they are in love. It means they like each other. And even if they do love each other, acknowledging that fact will take time, as well.

Do I think arcane developed their relationship quickly, yes. Do I think it would matter in modern day society, also yes. But I think Riot got away with it, seeing how Vi and Caitlyn’s bond grow over the 5 days I think it’s perfectly normal that Vi forms a connection with Caitlyn after She literally SAVES her life, as well as how Vi intimately opens up to Caitlyn, this shows trust :) they def fell in love

feels natural, and genuine not forced jus to check an LGBT Checkbox for representation. There connection feels human, Just as Caitlyn's relationship with Jayce feels like they have a sibling bond that feels real. I mean Caitlyn's family discard Jayce like he was nothing not wanting Caitlyn to even talk to him, yet Caitlyn still does,she does care just not romantically for Jayce It was also kind of sticking it to her mom.

4:15 you can’t help yourself now can you? 😂

Kinda unrelated but i just found out that vi isnt short, she’s about 170 cm (5 8), its just that cait its a fu**ing sky scraper at like 6 1 or 182 cm

Just imagine how many two hour dates are in 5 whole days

idk how people can say they love each other too fast. i fall in love the moment i lay eyes on someone

I have a feeling that Caitlyn got captured by Jinx right after she and Vi have a breakup moment in the rain for their first edit. The shower scene probably added in later on by the writers/directors. Caitlyn seems to have the same wet hair style and in her uniform both in the rain and tea party scene. But if they have change to the shower scene of her captured then I believe Vi and Silco and the tea party all happen in that same day from maybe morning to night.

I clicked so fast at the notification 👀

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6:25 I simply can't!🤣😂😅

9:59 This is honestly the biggest thing. Caitvi/Violyn is by no means a fully committed relationship in the time frame of the show - there's the start of it, sure, but neither has really had the chance to stop and take stock of their feelings properly (Jinx interrupted Caitlyn in that process, after all, while Vi was repressing her feelings for her crusade against Silco's criminal empire as Step 1 in her revised plan to save Powder). Friends? Yes, but they're not a couple... *yet*, though others see that they've clearly got eyes for each other. It's similar to all the people that whined that Korrasami was rushed when no, it was just the very start of them making a jump into something more than just being friends, and before that we saw plenty of them getting along (in Book 3 especially).

Both times I fell in love, it was nearly instantaneous. We. Just. Knew. Violyn's not happening excessively fast at all to me.

9:59 I hope you're right - the season 2 trailer got me me spooked 👀👀👀in that they're chatting about having to go after jinx, which to me signals that season two will have a big focus on noble sacrifice of either their blossoming relationship for the sake of the position of uncertainty it puts them both in*, or one of them physically sacrificing their life to stop jinx. *Relational uncertainty in that while Caitlyn's always pushed against the boundaries set out by her mother and by Marcus, I don't think season one (correct me if I'm wrong!) shows any times she's in cahoots with zaun in the eyes of the piltys. The bridge scene she reveals somewhat the extent of her illegal adventuring in the undercity (obvs she's broken rank, but also defied the blockade and her mum says she broke several laws), saying "sir I have proof it's silco" or something along those lines. Marcus consider killing her since HE's in cahoots with silco, but his silco-y-kahootery is a surprise to her at this point. As for the council scene, she reveals silco's demand for independence having pointed out that the undercity is woefully neglected by piltover - so while she's willing to prod and push the needle of acceptability with the councillors, she's hoping they'll act as nobly and unselfishly having raised their awareness of zaun's plight. She's still courting the system for help and upholding it's legitimacy in vain hope that they have the same moral fibre she has. Vi's dismay/disgusted outburst at the council considering negotiating with silco (which I think comes from a place of hatred for the damage caused by silco's vision for zaun thus far, and fear for jinx's safety as she'd be a bargaining chip and could be subjected to the horrors of prison, or worse) is a sharp wakeup call for caitlyn. I think until this point, partly because of vi and ekko's decision to trust her plan despite their objections, she was hoping that their being from different sides of the city could be overcome and love-conquers-all etc, which vi further shatters with the oil and water speech. After the flare scene setup and dinner table scene climax of jinx and vi establishing where they're at with each other in cait's presence, and then confirming their stances (jinx saying "make caitlyn go away" and vi saying "ok sure tell ya what, we'll ditch cait and run away, you & me, just pls no hurty caity pls thanx") cait faced the dilemma of shoot jinx and irreparably destroy HMS Violyn, or don't shoot jinx and let jinx wreck havoc. I forsee season two forcing her to confront this dilemma again but in a higher stakes environment where jinx is mid-havoc-wrecking, and so caitlyn's choice has more certain consequences for the city and she would be forced to decide publicly in the presence of piltys, putting her in a double-bind rock-and-a-hard-place of bye-bye-vi or cheerio-pilto Even if they aren't at all involved in the stop-jinx-brigade, in season 2 if they're sticking together publicly that's a BAD LOOK with Jinx's assassination attempt and probable havoc-wreaking escalating animosity between piltover and the undercity to a boiling point - Vi would likely be confronted all the more powerfully with zaunites' fury and distrust towards piltover and likewise with Caitlyn and Piltover's desire for revenge and subjugation of zaun. Ekko's decision to trust caitlyn in the happy tree place (it's been a WHILE since I binged arcane, can you tell? :'D ) based on caitlyn's lil speech is in part because they have vi as a mediator who they both trust and have deep respect for, where the average zaunite would reasonably despise Sherriff Cait on sight, and I imagine the piltys' reaction to seeing her stick up for zaun post-fishbones would be more akin to their outraged reaction to silco's demands for independence. Vi has lost much meaningful contact with the zaunites from her time in prison, and while she's already public enemy number one in the eyes of silco's goons so that wouldn't change, her siding with Sherrif Kiramann (assuming Caitlyn does become sheriff) would be a hard pill for at least Vi to swallow when the piltys would quite possibly be baying for the crushing and deeper subjugating of her home and her undercity, unless Cait's doing her damnedest to stop the piltys. THAT is what I'm referring to in my predicting of a focal part of season 2 drama being the emotional entwining of vi and cait coming under threat. Obvs I hope it doesn't because I'm an eternal Violyn shipper, but if they allow deeper exploration of their relationship via it being strained and hopefully resolved then I think makes for a good story and I am Here For It :D

If it was a straight couple NO one would be saying shit. A boy and a girl look at each other and boom you KNOW they are end game. I LOVE Avatar the last air bender but even it has this. As soon as anng sees katara he's in love at 1st sight. Lumity took a good season to get started but people also say it was rushed but I never see these complaints for straight couples in media

I legit laughed aloud at Caitlyn's "besmudged...and lovely" and "clean ... and lovely " 🤣🤣 she's my fav I and I simp for her (and vi of course)

It's gooood plessful surprise!

It's a bit of a gay meme as well - that we fall in love quickly. Of course it's just a joke, but in my case it actually happens to be accurate. All of my romantic relationships started only a few days after knowing the person. I personally don't like taking things slow - the tension is just unbearable

People say too fast??? Have they met lesbians? Besides - there is meeting someone and then there's meeting someone who saves your life, almost getting killed a bunch of times and goes on a mad adventure with you. I mean, how can you not form a very intimate bond? Also, they both clearly fancy each other as they keep sneaking a look here and there. Nothing unrealistic there imho

I don't have the time to watch the video right now but I feel like Arcane put things that would take like 3 seasons on one season. I don't think that it happened too quickly because everything happens quickly in Arcane.

Have to say that "faking" Jayce documents might have taken time seems not correct. Because on the question of the highly sympathetic prison ward since when Jayce is a councillor Caitlyn answers "Since today"...seems like thee developers are not perfect in everything...but nonetheless nice remarks to the timeline and well done job like so ever. The guys who think they fall in love to fast I have to ask what is with love on the first (or second or third) sight?

09:53 How can you call it chosing Powder over Kaitlyn? Vi tells Powder the best she can come up at that moment, so that Kait isn't headshot. It just happens to be a suggestion that they could leave together with Powder. But that's very far away from choosing Powder over Kaitlyn.

I find it rather baffling how people have such baseless and petty complaints with this show. I think years of movies and shows with horrendous writing have rotted their brains in this age of unlimited streaming. Arcane does just about everything perfectly, the pacing is masterful, the characters are believable and make understandable decisions with every wrong thing happening to them being the result of multiple factors and not just their own stupid decisions as they mostly are with other shows just to move the plot in some inane direction. Even the questionable relationships are handled really well although I do find it bizarre how people accept the Jinx and Silco relationship when he was the cause of all of her suffering completely and yet find nonsensical things to complain about with Violyn.

We can’t ignore trauma bonds. This at times can bring people together faster. I feel like if you like someone, you can easily fall in love within a week. The straights do it all the time lol

You also need to take into account the psychological aspects in the plot, Vi has been in prison for years without any connection to the outside world, and Caitlyn has been in a pampered position for all her life (except for Jayce but I am taking into account that she is probably a lesbian, sees him as family or simply is not interested in him). Vi offers a genuine relationship and Cait a caring and personal view, completing each other, is not a common situation and all that they went through in those first 4 days is also an accelerated way of getting to know someone.

For me personally it has nothing to do with actual time spent together. The pathway to intimacy is self disclosure. The more you start sharing about yourself with people the more it starts to foster a sense of empathy and connection with them. Particularly if they respond well. Seeing small gradual levels of self disclosure between a love interest and your MC. Shows the audience them gradually building intimacy. That's what creates emtional dependability. In this relationship you get a good sense of physical dependability they do it very well it's excellently exacuted. I feel theirs a difference between emtional dependability and physical dependability. If someone is physically dependable you know they are reliable in cases of physical danger if you ever needed someone to protect you from physical harm you could rely on this person. Some physicaly dependable figures are Fireman, Life guard's, Paramedics. But there are probably more personal figures who have shown you they'd be more than willing to protect you when it comes to physical danger. Then there's emtional dependability, someone who is dependanble emtionaly is someone who's made you feel safe emtionaly. I would never tell some random Lifeguard about my darkest and deepest insecurities or regrets no matter how much I need to share the emtional pain. Just because they are willing to save me when I'm drowning dosent mean they can facilitate my emtional needs. If I'm dealing with something or holding something back emtionaly who is the first person I'm willing to be that vulnerable with has probably proven to be emtionaly dependable. Emotionally dependable figures are like Therapists, Religious figures, Best Friends, Siblings. This kind of dependability requires a great deal of I think when writers start to blur thoose lines they erase valuable tools they could have used to show the audience more depth in the relationship. But I understand for the setting and the characters this works this is how all the relationships in Arcane work. Think about the drug shimmer they could have easily turned it into some normal narcotic or opioid but shimmer is a drug that works to bring across a message into the world. In are world people use drugs to get away from emtional turmoil. Shimmer cooperates with the arcane world much better. Shimmer "helps" the user become physically bigger and more dangerous so they can deal with the physical turmoil of Arcanes world. In Arcana you're almost physically strong enough to deal with the physical tax of the world their in. It makes sense that the way they show Vander is a good father figure is by showing he's a dependable physically for the girls. The way they show Vi as a good older sister is showing first how physically dependable she is. So it makes sense (for this world) that physical dependability is more valued then emtional dependability and is enough to build intimacy for these characters who struggle with openness vulnerability and Trust. It's enough to build physical attraction. For me personally, it's a actually correct and properly exacuted use of the "I saved your life once" romantic trope. I just never liked the trope so that bias blinds me in a way. I really enjoy seeing deeply nuanced emtional bonds in my romantic relationship subplots. Especially in wlw I find it rare. And Arcane does do this they focus on the bond of the relationship you can tell by the absence of any sexual/ physical intimacy. For me personally though I just favour relationships in wich emtional dependability and a stronger focus on emtional depth is more the focus but I understand how this doesn't fit in the "underground" world.

My answer: No, they haven't even fallen in love yet, they just like each other rn

i wish to find someone as Caitlyn

I wonder about the timeline of the first two episodes. Ekko says he followed Jayce back ti his lab after selling him a bunch of stuff, but the four kids arrive before Jayce and Caitlyn show up with a bunch of stuff Jayce bought. Did he buy stuff from multiple locations or did he get too much frim Ekko to take in one trip?

If someone falls in love at all, it's too fast. Because it's always for the wrong reasons. Love is just a gimmick developed by evolutionary processes to get us to continue making humans. Sometimes it gets sidetracked. In all cases, it's nothing but a convenient addiction. It's the same thing as what a simple dog feels for its owner...but mutual. Nothing about it is conducive to a valid, stable relationship. But, it is fun to watch.

The problem, in my own logic that of course is personal, it’s not in Vi hesitating in ep 9, but choosing Cait over Jinx in ep 7 on the bridge, leaving her and Ekko to fight, possibly to death.

Also, when Caitlyn is getting vi out of prison vi is in the prison uniform then before the Parkour scene vi is wearing the blue and white shirt so i think after Caitlyn released vi they stopped by to get vi something else to wear though the ripped parts on the shoulder part make imagine something like this...... Cait: ummm are the sleeves too tight? Do i buy another one? And vi was like: nah I a can make it work ,* proceed to rip the sleeves off entirely * that's better now let's go Sorry i know this random 😅

Jack & Rose fell in love in like 3 days at most during Titanic, so this is long by comparison :P

Being there to compliment and support each other through some bad times for 4 days straight and not to mention them being hot and sexy, it is a very reasonable time to develop feelings of attraction and likings towards each other imo...

Kind of did. Ngl I definitely love them together but falling in love that quickly isn't like that irl. But it's just a cartoon so nothing too serious. Idk.🤷🏿‍♀️